Taurus Sun, Cap Moon Man Playing games

I have been in an up/down situation with a taurus male since August 2015. We dated for about 10 mnths but separated due to his insecurities with my previous marriage. Since then we have our hot and cold moments, we would hang out for weeks at a time, no arguments just fun and then he would get mad at some small issue and pull back. He always would say " I love you, but I don't trust you." Around October was the last time he told me he loved me. Since then he has been moody, distant, in and out.We also no longer go on dates, his excuse " Why should we do that?" But usually we can get back on good terms with hanging out, talking, etc... At one point it felt like we were on a road to relationship recovery. But once again he got mad and pulled back over miscommunication. Recently he told me that he doesn't want to be with me because he has feelings for his daughter's mother, and he doesn't want to go back and forth between us. I finally took that to mean he truly does not want me, and left him alone. After all, he has also told me to "Let go, move on. Find someone else, because I'm a good girl. Just not for him. We will only be sex from now on and nothing more." After hearing this for a while and not going on any dates, I started calling less and texting less. In the past he would call and ask what I am doing, when I respond "Nothing" He would say " I didn't want anything, bye." Just recently he invited me over to his home, I thought he had thought everything over with our relationship, but basically he wanted to argue about who I was "entertaining" in my phone.... He accused me of speaking with someone that he knows. Plot Twist: I have not been talking to anyone. I did give my phone number to a co-worker in hopes that I can get a second gig at their other job.

Anyways, we had an argument, I eventually let him have my phone, when he could not locate whatever it was, he got angry and refused to give the phone back. Then we wrestled, things got a little sexual and we ended up spending the night together, staying up until 4am talking. So I'm thinking we are good, right? WRONG. The next day he ignores me and when he does answer he is still talking about this person, who claims we are "talking", he told me it doesn't matter at this point and that I am a liar.

To be frank, I cannot tell if this man is suppressing his feelings for me and trying to push me away or if he wanted to comeback but doesn't feel like the trust is there. I also want to add we did moments of infidelity on his part, when he felt like I may be leaning more towards my ex. I am now coming to a point where I don't care either way, although I do have strong feelings for him. But I don't want to play cat and mouse for nothing. Any Opinions?

I am a Leo Sun/Cap Moon

Rather than think you guys are good, talk to him about it. But I'd honestly not even deal with this situation if I were you. Doesn't seem like it'll end well.

Posted by earlorg16
Rather than think you guys are good, talk to him about it. But I'd honestly not even deal with this situation if I were you. Doesn't seem like it'll end well.

Thank you for your response. Its funny your stats are the same as his. I think I am reaching the point of doing away with it though. Just wanted to see what others thought. Curiously, In your opinion, do you see this ending badly for myself or him?

Posted by LoquaciousLeo

Posted by earlorg16
Rather than think you guys are good, talk to him about it. But I'd honestly not even deal with this situation if I were you. Doesn't seem like it'll end well.

Thank you for your response. Its funny your stats are the same as his. I think I am reaching the point of doing away with it though. Just wanted to see what others thought. Curiously, In your opinion, do you see this ending badly for myself or him?

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Not a problem! And yeah, my placements are very similar which is why I felt inclined to respond. It doesn't matter if it ends badly for you or him, it's going to suck regardless whether you're in or you're out. He doesn't seem invested in you and you're a temporary booty call to him from what it looks like. He's still possessive of you, and knows that it can lead to sex. If you're okay with that, by all means, but you deserve better than that.

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Posted by earlorg16
Rather than think you guys are good, talk to him about it. But I'd honestly not even deal with this situation if I were you. Doesn't seem like it'll end well.

Thank you for your response. Its funny your stats are the same as his. I think I am reaching the point of doing away with it though. Just wanted to see what others thought. Curiously, In your opinion, do you see this ending badly for myself or him?

Not a problem! And yeah, my placements are very similar which is why I felt inclined to respond. It doesn't matter if it ends badly for you or him, it's going to suck regardless whether you're in or you're out. He doesn't seem invested in you and you're a temporary booty call to him from what it looks like. He's still possessive of you, and knows that it can lead to sex. If you're okay with that, by all means, but you deserve better than that.

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Yea, I am going to let this be. I just wanted to be sure I wasn't the only one seeing this late night creep only status. Sucks though, we had really good chemistry before the trust issues. I don't understand why he is possessive of someone he has no interest in, I guess that was the only thing holding me in.. The thought that we *may* work out. But trust is a very big thing and he feels like I might be quick to stray despite lack of evidence. We accomplished a few things together in our 10 months and I feel like he teetered with the thought of us continuing for a while and came to the final conclusion, we are at now. I am more of if I don't want you as my own, then I don't want you intimately.

Posted by JohnTheBaptist100
You are such a typical Leo... Always the "side chick"...

I'm beginning to wonder if Leos are commitment phobes that just like cheap sex...

Why on earth would you have sex with him or even entertain him for that matter when you know he has a Woman that he prefers to you and has only told you it will be just sex and he is rude and disrespectful.

Cut the damn cord now and tell him to FO and find your pride because right now... It's missing

Let me clarify, when he began pursuing me, there was no other woman in the picture. They were not together to my knowledge. I have never been a "sidechick", find your respect before you come for me. I summarized my situation, for a quick answer. His bm was never in the picture while we were courting. I do know that she felt some kind of way as he told me. I realized that when he would get mad at me, she would be his emotional rebound. Hence "going between the both of us." Also as stated, when he told me about his indecisiveness, I left. Is there anything else?

Hello Loquacious Leo,

I read your thread and its entirety.

His actions are conflicting, ambiguous.

But somehow, I don't see this method as a form of game-playing, more like self preservation.

Ex 1: He uses you for sex....but refers to you as a 'good girl.' Nice girls are never side pieces for Bulls. Its black or white. One or the other. No gray areas.

Ex 2: Feelings for the the daughter's mother was 'left field'...it's wasn't a factor during the 10 month relationship, why is it a factor now? If the feelings for the ex were allegedly still there, the jealousy towards you ex would have never surfaced.

Ex 3: The Phone Call. "I don't want anything, bye" sounds like your aloof response caught him off guard. He retaliated with embarrassment, and a quick dismissal.

Ex 4: Jealous Outbursts

I don't think he's in love with two women.

Just one.

Your ex, and friendships with other men is still an issue.

His ex?

Will serve as an emotional shield, until he feels that he can trust you.

I may be wrong...

Just my .02.

Posted by TaurusBull1977
Hello Loquacious Leo,

I read your thread and its entirety.

His actions are conflicting, ambiguous.

But somehow, I don't see this method as a form of game-playing, more like self preservation.

Ex 1: He uses you for sex....but refers to you as a 'good girl.' Nice girls are never side pieces for Bulls. Its black or white. One or the other. No gray areas.

Ex 2: Feelings for the the daughter's mother was 'left field'...it's wasn't a factor during the 10 month relationship, why is it a factor now? If the feelings for the ex were allegedly still there, the jealousy towards you ex would have never surfaced.

Ex 3: The Phone Call. "I don't want anything, bye" sounds like your aloof response caught him off guard. He retaliated with embarrassment, and a quick dismissal.

Ex 4: Jealous Outbursts

I don't think he's in love with two women.

Just one.

Your ex, and friendships with other men is still an issue.

His ex?

Will serve as an emotional shield, until he feels that he can trust you.

I may be wrong...

Just my .02.

I appreciate your answer and value your perspective. This was my thought process too, after I looked at all the ends and outs. But since I'm not 100% , I'm going to back away and give him space. Allow him to come to me, if he wants me for more than sex. I need everything a man can offer.