Will this airy bull come back?

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FieryCancer
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10 Years

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Hello all!

Long time reader, first time poster 🙂 Hoping you might be able to offer some insight into a situation that's been playing on my mind for far too long.

Firstly, his placements are:

Sun - Taurus
Moon - Taurus
Venus - Gemini
Mars - Aquarius

Mine:

Sun - Cancer
Moon - Gemini
Venus - Leo
Mars - Leo

I broke up with my ex bf of (on and off) 1yr around 5 months ago. He is by far the nearest damn thing to The One I've ever had. I was deeply infatuated with him and love him dearly. We got on amazingly and the sex was... mind blowing. He was like a best friend and lover all wrapped up in very handsome packaging.The only problem I had was that he would be very detached when we were apart. I never had any concern about him cheating or anything like that, but he just wasn't as demonstrative as I wanted him to be when it came to affection. Ultimately, this lead to us separating. I was his first girlfriend (should have been a massive red flag as he's mid 20s). But it also made me feel special. He admitted he had problems expressing himself, but it was too stressful wondering whether he loved me or not. It felt like he kept hop-scotching back and forth between "you're perfect, you're exactly the kind of person I could imagine myself marrying" to "I'm stuck in my ways, I'm not ready to be in a relationship". It doesn't help that he has some family issues that hindered how much time he could give me.

I've tried to convince myself that he was 'just not that into me', but he literally never had a single bad word to say about me. Continually called me perfect and numerous other complimentary words. He spoke highly of me to his friends also (which got back to me through mutual friends). I'm just so confused! If i'm so perfect, why wouldn't he do anything to make things work? Was he just being nice and wanting to let me down gently, or is he really that 'stuck in his ways'. Do you think that if things ended amicably (no blazing arguments, just that we can't give each other what the other needs right now) that he might come back? Preferably, more clued up on what he needs.

It doesn't help that he told me that his ideal situation would be to improve his family situation (overly controlling and manipulative mother who negatively impact so many aspects of his life) and to be able to finish what we started. I'm not sitting around waiting for this to happen, btw. But I can't stop thinking about him, im SO not over him, and no one I meet compar
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I'm going to repeat an observation that someone else made to me regarding a Taurus Sun with Gemini Venus.

'He is just being himself.'

You might want him to be different or act differently etc and perhaps he is able to conform to what you'd prefer, like and need or perhaps he can't.

There's likely to be a level of acceptance required here.

I would have thought your moon went well with his Venus but perhaps your Cancer Sun is being too clingy and your Leo Venus is being too demanding. I have Leo Mars, I find I do like to feel number one, it's a pride thing!



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thefierybull
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Ha, this is my problem. I'm a Taurus female with a Venus in Gem, and I'm not very affectionate either. All my exes (including my Taurus ex who was equally unaffectionate) complained about this. Lots of Taurus have this problem. We show affection through actions, not verbally. I hate talking about feelings, and lovey dovey crap, it makes me very uncomfortable (even though I have Cancer placements).

If he stuck around, and showed love through his actions, then no doubt he loves you.
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RiverLee
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Female Taurus sun, Gemini venus/moon

You have a Gemini moon, you created a BIG problem where a problem didn't exist. Thank your moon for that lol You say he was hop scotching back & forth, I call that wishy washy, but you did the same. You said everything was perfect but YOU broke up with him because in your mind you created something out of nothing. Gemini moons think too much & have a tendency to create problems if not kept in check.

"The ONLY problem I had was that he would be very detached when we were apart. I NEVER had any CONCERN about him cheating or anything like that, but he just wasn't as demonstrative as I wanted"
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Parasite
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Hey FieryCancer,

To answer your question bluntly.... He is not coming back and if he ever does the relationship would be meaningless or full of disappointment. One way or another both of you would have gone your separate ways as you have different expectations and outlooks. We Taurus' tend to appear unaffectionate as it is not in our character to act lovey-dovey. We demonstrate the depth of our feelings through actions, gifts and remembering small details you've told us months or years ago.

Despite the relationship lasting a year (on and off) it is quite clear that the Taurus does not know what he wants, is still young and wasn't expecting a serious relationship with demands. His Gemini venus is screaming and searching for a mental connection. He sincerely liked you although you missed several subtle signs (actions) he has shown you and both of you appear to have very contrasting outlooks on what constitutes 'love' and a 'relationship'. What drove him away was you doubting his words and perhaps being demanding rather than acknowledging he was having 'family issues' and patiently waiting. It's hard I know, but he simply had to sort issues out before he could give you his 'full attention', is what he really meant. If he is truly 'the one' then why are you unsatisfied? Something is missing right? So find that person that will truly give you the attention you need. It may takes years, but right now you are clouded with your love for him.

You over-analysed what he was saying despite him telling you he had issues expressing himself. Communication is key.... simply asking him or letting him know that you're giving him space and that you're there to support him if he needs it would have been enough. The fact that you were imposing yourself onto him and expecting to move on to the next stage of the relationship mentioning marriage without consulting him on how he felt about his life and position most likely hurt and panicked him. He probably felt as if he was making 'you' unhappy, hence why he is so detached. You broke it off so there is only so much he could do. Why would he come back to you if you broke it off showing him that you are no longer interested? He has pride also.

He clearly loves you as he has proven this through actions and has been very honest with you so far. If you love him and feel that you can be patient then communicate this to him if not, and quite honestly, just move on. You'll end up being a burden and his anger/frustration will
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Fiery cancer,
I had a taurus ex 2 years ago who ended things with me and i felt same way as you. I would make time for him as we had a long distance relationship and would talk on the phone once a week and message one another.

I felt after a while that i was making the concessions and effort to chat/contact him. We always planned friday evenings as chat time and if not saturday evenings. He kept cancelling them day of with excuses that he wants to hang out with friends.
I'm fine with you having friends but when you hang out with them all the time and then cancel our call times to hang out with them some more and expect me to answer your calls at 1am- sorry not happening.

I explained to him politely that i am busy with my life too but when he set up the friday/saturday night calls and kept cancelling them and then expect me to make myself available at a really inconsiderate time, i didn't feel there was enough give and take.

He ended things with me and never had the balls to say it. After a year he messages me and apologises saying he's sorry and hope i found someone who treats me right. I ignored him and 3 months later on my engagement day, messages me again with the exact same words. He wanted to be friends again and i felt he had ulterior motives. In the end, i found out whilst he was with me he had been going out with other girls (even engaged ones whose fiances were so uncomfortable with ther relationship) and he lied to me about many things.

I have moved on and happily married to a fellow capricorn male. I love my husband so much as he just gets me.

I guess everyone has issues - good and bad but being in a relationship you have to communicate and not make excuses. I don't know if i would ever want another taurus in my life ever again...
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A GM with a TM that is work right there for the both of you.. hmm TM are stable, picky, practical, use common sense, and are homebodies majority of the time. They are cool, calm and collected.

GM are not calm and collected in moods. They are all over in their minds constantly seeking adventures, spontaneous, mental stimulation. TM Will sometimes like that but would make GM head spin. Always on the go.

TM will open up and show emotions. GM might not show emotions making it seem your not interested in emotions.

AIR signs don't get all emotional, actually aloof is the difference, and unstable, and independent..TM signs want emotions, stability, and consistency and never be late around them..

ViG same thing except they are flirty, have alot of love interests, can be married and still want something else..not really emotional.

They are like where's my plate, lets have some fun, and then I see you when I see you..it's fun for fixed fire signs like Leo. Like draws connection with spontaneous moments. But after awhile the fixed fire may want more action vs word play..like stay over and cuddle, and watch a movie. ViG is like what's outside right now. ViL is like hold me, caress me, kiss me, and all that mushy stuff. It's a struggle. But it's all about the character, actions, and behavior of being friends first to see if you want this.
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FieryCancer
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Firstly, thank you all for taking the time to comment! Appreciate it. I think that my opening post doesn't paint a full picture as there's only so much I can cram into a post! He actually broke things off with me after a few months of dating. Things seemed to be great, but apparently wanting to meet up once a week was a big ask! I can indeed be needy and dramatic and expressive in love (Leo/Cancer). The only way I identify with Gemini moon is that I am very open and verbally expressive and a bit of a flirt (harmlessly so, I just enjoy the attention and the fun). I do tend to need my own space to sort out my emotions (and yes,as RiverLee pointed out, tend to over analyse!), but more so with friends. I could happily be smothered by a lover and see it just as adoration and love.

With my Airy Bull, I put my Leo pride aside and turned down my Cancer over-sensitivity to continually try to be accommodating and understanding. Because I thought he was so amazing that I should 'evolve' and mature to make things work. In my eyes, that's what you do when you really care about someone. Similar to Eva's situation, it felt that too often he would priorities everything over me. He gave me a VERY unexpected speech just as I was beginning to pull away because I felt DRAINED and like a plant without water. And for far too long I kept using the excuse of 'he's new to this relationship thing, be patient'. In his speech, he told me that if anyone was worth changing his stuck ways for, it was me. That I was perfect and he'd be stupid to mess it up and that we should give things another try... His actions fell flat and this is why I finally walked. It was NOT because I stopped loving him, didn't want to be with him, or because I was rash. It was because it felt like if he couldn't grow a pair and make a LITTLE time for me, show me he loved me in SOME clear undeniable way, that I would go clinically mad. If communicating his feelings and putting himself out there is so hard, why make such big promises he would never fulfill?

What I want is for him to acknowledge that he fell short. That I did try and that it wasn't all for nothing. What I would love is for him to see that just a little effort on his part could have lead to a relationship that was near perfect. I'm sure a lot of people feel like this after a hard break up, and I'm trying to come to terms with the fact that I might not ever hear this from him 😭
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FieryCancer
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it doesn't help that after acknowledging (ME acknowledging, HE didn't have the balls to) that he couldn't fulfill his promises right now. That he's not in control of his own life to share it with someone else. He replied with "you're the right girl at the wrong time. My ideal scenario is to be able to sort out my situation and for you to still be available". WTF.

For the record, I never spoke of marriage/children. That was very much him. But, then he would be cold and detached one moment, and then fantasizing about married life the next. It was almost as if he freaked himself out with how caught up he was getting, and would take a giant leap back.

Sorry for the rant. I thought that Taurus were super relationship oriented and affectionate. That they really stick it out and try everything to make a relationship work. Maybe his Gemini/Aquarius placements have a bigger impact and are watering down his Double Taurus sun/moon. I just wish I could figure out if he still thinks about me the way I do about him, and if he has any regrets for his doing. And if he does, would he ever seek forgiveness or reconciliation...
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Posted by FieryCancer
It was because it felt like if he couldn't grow a pair and make a LITTLE time for me, show me he loved me in SOME clear undeniable way, that I would go clinically mad.



i hate myself for saying this but did you give him enough time to change? i think a bull's time frame should be sometimes considered like a builder's estimate. consider it, double it and then double it again.

it's excruciating and a gamble with your time but sometimes necessary. ultimately though you should only invest that which you are prepared to lose. if the time scale didn't work for you then you did the right thing.

you should probably hope that he doesn't return, these fundamental differences rarely resolve themselves unless huge efforts are made to modify our behaviour.
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Eva
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Busyeyes 88,

What i meant is after finding a Lovely capricorn, i mean in future i could never see myself wanting to be in a relationship with a taurus man like my ex ever again. We never know when we get married if it lasts forever till the day we die, we an only do our best to make the relationship work.

Fiery cancer,
My dad is a taurus and as stubborn as he is, he has integrity and doesn't fluff you around- he tells you as it is and doesn't lead you on. My dad said i deserved better than my immature taurus ex. Hes still playing around with multiple girlfriends at the same time who eventually end up dumping his immature ass.

I have moved on, gotten married and due to have a baby end of this year. Taurus men never usually admit that they can be pricks and that they do not mutually sacrifice their time for a relationship. I hate the word sacrifice because when you are in a relationship, you mutually commit to spending time together. If you can't do that, don't waste my time.