@lisabethur8
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It matters cause they are parasites. Unless you're walking the checkbook up to the altar, then their liars, too.
Posted by zerofromouterspace
It matters cause they are parasites. Unless you're walking the checkbook up to the altar, then their liars, too.
guess you aren't a millionaire or billionaire huh?
I don't really care about money. It's relative to point of view.
That was one of the most sexist things I have ever read. Congratulations, I guess.
Posted by zerofromouterspace
I don't really care about money. It's relative to point of view.
well when I hear a man saying that about a woman, it makes me think he's really a scumbag, because he has to put women down for choosing a wealthy man.
and it shows what type of man he is, that he is jealous and insecure and hates on those women. The men who choose them are happy and don't mind at all they know what they're getting into.
Posted by AneemA
I would be naive to assume that I don't have to live up to certain's expectations from the billionaires/millionaires and can have freedom to speak up my mind because usually those millionaires would want a throphy wife instead a real human being.And I think there must be a sense of strong control from them if I get them to pay everything for me and I don't like to be controlled. I choose freedom over immense amount of money, really.
Some women value comfort more than anything and I don't think it's wrong. It's their choice.
But if I am to look up to a woman, i would like to be more like Ayu Utami, a local author in my country whose novels have been translated into 7 languages, and won a few international contest. Freedom of thoughts, freedom to go out of social molds and bravery to stand up for her own integrity, courageously breakthrough the stigma of women in my country's society, open and broad minded, critical and sensitive to culture and societal dynamics. That's the kind of woman I'd aspire to be.
She is a bit kind of Ayn, but since she is local, her point of views resonate more to me.
🙂
What about you, Op?
um I like women who write romances and relationships like that of Jane Austen....
but sadly she never got with the man she loved, so I found it ironic you know? life is full of ironies...
by the way, I find it also good if a poor or middle class man marries a wealthy woman but UNFORTUNATELY not many wealthy women will marry a poor or middle class man.
I'm not putting anyone down for choosing a wealthy anyone.
I'm putting down anyone whose choice is based on income. That's not even choosing to marry anything at all, it's just choosing your own comfort. Like you said.
May as well marry yourself.
Clooney's wife turns me on, big time.
She's arab, so obviously. Secondly, somehow I doubt Clooney married for money.
It was a joke.
No, actually it wasn't. All arab women are hot.
Posted by Feral_doe
I don't have an issue with women who marry wealthy men. Their reasons are their own.I admire Anais Nin. I love her writing, her perspective.
Delta of Venus?
Posted by Feral_doe
@Ram416She's a pisces sun/venus, cap moon. I like her take on submission and independence.
Back when I was still exploring my sexuality, Delta of Venus was my go-to book. At the time I connected quite well with her characters in that book.
Posted by PoopMcPoopFace
I really don't care but there's no way in hell am I gonna give freebies. You have to prove yourself a person of substance, class, ethical, compassionate and patient. I'm probably forgetting somethings but those things are important to me. Do what you want but don't expect nothing more than a whole relationship that is a transaction.
OK Boss!
Posted by PV&Jellay
I aspire to be more like this woman. I want my own success.
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Venus Cazimi in 2nd for Oprah.
haha thanks guys, Oprah is partnered to Pisces sun/Stellium pisces Stedham Graham for decades now. lol
they aren't married but they like it that way. (it's like the GoldieHawn/ Russell Crowe thing going on....no marriage but they like it like that!!!)
oh my gosh....Goldie Hawn is an 11th house sun....
no wonder I've always liked her..... 😕
she is like Oprah's philosophy in marriage.
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How is her being an Arab connected with his statement?
He said that Clooney marry her because she is rich ?
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lol Clooney is already rich. 😛
he even did a grand wedding for her in Italy. that's so romantic.
Posted by Palerio
Clooney's wife turns me on, big time.
maybe one day you'll marry a woman like that 😛
Posted by Palerio
Posted by PV&Jellay
I aspire to be more like this woman. I want my own success.
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Venus Cazimi in 2nd for Oprah.
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Power.
ok there is a difference between marrying a man that happens to be rich and marrying a man for his money
in the examples you gave eleanor roosevelt and marilyn monroe even though they are two totally different women are respected b/c they made a name for themselves not off the backs of their spouses
eleanor roosevelt worked her whole life to help others
and marilyn monroe ..pursued her dreams during a time when it was unheard for a women to pursue her dreams and goals
if you choose to spend your entire life with the sole goal of marrying a man for money ...then you should expect for people not to respect you ...get out and get your own ...
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Posted by PV&Jellay
I aspire to be more like this woman. I want my own success.
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Venus Cazimi in 2nd for Oprah.
Power.
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2nd house sun, pluto 8th, scorpio mars 11th. lol 😛 😄
Posted by Cancan26
ok there is a difference between marrying a man that happens to be rich and marrying a man for his moneyin the examples you gave eleanor roosevelt and marilyn monroe even though they are two totally different women are respected b/c they made a name for themselves not off the backs of their spouses
eleanor roosevelt worked her whole life to help others
and marilyn monroe ..pursued her dreams during a time when it was unheard for a women to pursue her dreams and goals
if you choose to spend your entire life with the sole goal of marrying a man for money ...then you should expect for people not to respect you ...get out and get your own ...
ehhh I see your point, but if women want to marry for money. let them. to each their own.
people are gonna judge anyway no matter what, so...whatever. pfftttt. I say go for it, if it makes you feel good and both are in total consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt is a sweet lady but in her personal life she was not very happy. Although she gave a lot of joy happiness to others though and lots of wisdom.
Marilyn Monroe, sweet and lovely she was and loved by men and women, she was also not very happy.
Posted by Cancan26
ok there is a difference between marrying a man that happens to be rich and marrying a man for his moneyin the examples you gave eleanor roosevelt and marilyn monroe even though they are two totally different women are respected b/c they made a name for themselves not off the backs of their spouses
eleanor roosevelt worked her whole life to help others
and marilyn monroe ..pursued her dreams during a time when it was unheard for a women to pursue her dreams and goals
if you choose to spend your entire life with the sole goal of marrying a man for money ...then you should expect for people not to respect you ...get out and get your own ...
ehhh I see your point, but if women want to marry for money. let them. to each their own.
people are gonna judge anyway no matter what, so...whatever. pfftttt. I say go for it, if it makes you feel good and both are in total consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt is a sweet lady but in her personal life she was not very happy. Although she gave a lot of joy happiness to others though and lots of wisdom.
Marilyn Monroe, sweet and lovely she was and loved by men and women, she was also not very happy.
ops posted 2x lol
I meant to write, sometimes people sacrifice their inner happiness to receive joy and recognition in the form of their own love, which is also fine, if that's what they want in life.
Posted by lisabethur8
Posted by Cancan26
ok there is a difference between marrying a man that happens to be rich and marrying a man for his moneyin the examples you gave eleanor roosevelt and marilyn monroe even though they are two totally different women are respected b/c they made a name for themselves not off the backs of their spouses
eleanor roosevelt worked her whole life to help others
and marilyn monroe ..pursued her dreams during a time when it was unheard for a women to pursue her dreams and goals
if you choose to spend your entire life with the sole goal of marrying a man for money ...then you should expect for people not to respect you ...get out and get your own ...
ehhh I see your point, but if women want to marry for money. let them. to each their own.
people are gonna judge anyway no matter what, so...whatever. pfftttt. I say go for it, if it makes you feel good and both are in total consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt is a sweet lady but in her personal life she was not very happy. Although she gave a lot of joy happiness to others though and lots of wisdom.
Marilyn Monroe, sweet and lovely she was and loved by men and women, she was also not very happy.
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I think ...its because of what marriage means to me ...I believe that every person that marries deserves a partner that loves them unconditionally, the vows mean something to me ...for better or worse, for richer or poorer , in sickness,and health, to death do us part ...to pick and choose which vows you want to go by kind of cheapens the whole thing for me ....
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Posted by lisabethur8
Posted by Cancan26
ok there is a difference between marrying a man that happens to be rich and marrying a man for his moneyin the examples you gave eleanor roosevelt and marilyn monroe even though they are two totally different women are respected b/c they made a name for themselves not off the backs of their spouses
eleanor roosevelt worked her whole life to help others
and marilyn monroe ..pursued her dreams during a time when it was unheard for a women to pursue her dreams and goals
if you choose to spend your entire life with the sole goal of marrying a man for money ...then you should expect for people not to respect you ...get out and get your own ...
ehhh I see your point, but if women want to marry for money. let them. to each their own.
people are gonna judge anyway no matter what, so...whatever. pfftttt. I say go for it, if it makes you feel good and both are in total consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt is a sweet lady but in her personal life she was not very happy. Although she gave a lot of joy happiness to others though and lots of wisdom.
Marilyn Monroe, sweet and lovely she was and loved by men and women, she was also not very happy.
I think ...its because of what marriage means to me ...I believe that every person that marries deserves a partner that loves them unconditionally, the vows mean something to me ...for better or worse, for richer or poorer , in sickness,and health, to death do us part ...to pick and choose which vows you want to go by kind of cheapens the whole thing for me ....
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I do agree with you a lot.
but realistically, it's not possible, the way I see around me, the billions of people unsatisfied and many looking for love, or some don't know how to love, or some can't love deep enough, or some have never understood how, to..that kind of thing.
Posted by littlenanobyte
I'm capable of supporting myself and it shouldn't be too difficult for me to eventually work my way up to being paid six figures in my career track, but with that being said, I can see the appeal of marrying a billionaire. I'm not going to be fake and lie about it.
thanks for the honesty. lol
Firstly, I thought Clooney was gay?
Secondly, if that's what she wants, more power to her.
Posted by LillyPetal
Firstly, I thought Clooney was gay?Secondly, if that's what she wants, more power to her.
lol
he's too old for you anyway.
Posted by littlenanobyte
I mean let's be real for a second. Many people have all kinds of fucked up reasons to marry other people: codependency, "did it for the kids", people thinking that will make their S.O. start being faithful, their parents make them (arranged marriage), curing loneliness, because "it's what you're supposed to do by age xx", because the choices are getting smaller, good sex, etc.I live in the south where kids get married when they are 16-18 years old, divorced with 3 kids by 21, and remarried again by 23. I literally know people who are twice, or three, or four times, married by the time they are 25. I know girls who are younger than me with three kids, each having a different father, by 25.
So how is marrying for money any worse than any of those things? It's not imo.
that's why as I get mature and from too much dreaming and idealization of love till death do us part....
it's not always easy. Reality sets in. And it sucks. I hate reality at times but it's necessary to keep us grounded so that we aren't gonna get hurt again.
I think too that religion/wedding vows is very very spiritual and does not really have any basis of grounding/reality.
because, religion has many many times done no good for many couples who were not happy. Although don't get me wrong, there are couples who love eachother and they got lucky.
but more than 50% aren't happy so they stick together for the family and for the religious vows.
for example, on my husband's side of the family, they are super religious, and from the grandparents, aunts, and the background there, there are couples who had to keep secret of their homosexuality (in the closet) because of religious reasons. religion is good but it can also be detrimental, because it's not really based on reality. if for example someone is really in the closet. Many couples had to stay together because of that and divorces were not available or looked down upon or that you could not divorce at all.(bible belt)
Posted by lisabethur8
Posted by Palerio
Clooney's wife turns me on, big time.
maybe one day you'll marry a woman like that 😛
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Her being my type says a lot in fact about my actual chances of getting married 😄
Posted by zerofromouterspace
I'm not putting anyone down for choosing a wealthy anyone.I'm putting down anyone whose choice is based on income. That's not even choosing to marry anything at all, it's just choosing your own comfort. Like you said.
May as well marry yourself.
Well, women who grow up wealthy are conditioned to desire wealthy partners. These are the sort people they see socially while growing up and they learn to value money as a necessary part of a relationship. I don't judge them for this. It's how wealth maintains itself.
I'm not married to a billionaire, but I do know three, (billionaires). I don't feel this should in any way lower my self worth as a woman.
Posted by Season
Posted by zerofromouterspace
I'm not putting anyone down for choosing a wealthy anyone.I'm putting down anyone whose choice is based on income. That's not even choosing to marry anything at all, it's just choosing your own comfort. Like you said.
May as well marry yourself.
Well, women who grow up wealthy are conditioned to desire wealthy partners. These are the sort people they see socially while growing up and they learn to value money as a necessary part of a relationship. I don't judge them for this. It's how wealth maintains itself.
I'm not married to a billionaire, but I do know three, (billionaires). I don't feel this should in any way lower my self worth as a woman.
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yes. this. if they are used to a luxurious life, why change it?
and they see the commoners way of life and go, "omg...uh no. ew." and goes away. lol
j/k.
but that's what i'm guessing.

Posted by MysticalSoul
I feel as if a lot of women out there are just lazy. They'd rather rely on a man they don't love to support them than to provide for themselves.So in that case the man is using the woman for a place to bust nuts on and the woman is using the man for a way to buy designer clothes. It's not even about love at that point, just about benefits.
Whatever happened to being with someone because you genuinely care?
are you a man??
because it seems like men are always pissed off, or feeling pissed off at women choosing wealthy men.
not all men of course.
but I get a lot of animosity from the men section.
is it something about yourself (projection) that you hate about these women who choose billiionaires/millionaires??
like you hate on those men too? because they got the power?
you know there are plenty of women out there that don't choose rich men you know??
plenty of wonderful women looking for men who aren't like Donald Trump example.
😕 just focus on them, and look for those single ladies. They are looking for you too.
Posted by lisabethur8
Posted by Season
Posted by zerofromouterspace
I'm not putting anyone down for choosing a wealthy anyone.I'm putting down anyone whose choice is based on income. That's not even choosing to marry anything at all, it's just choosing your own comfort. Like you said.
May as well marry yourself.
Well, women who grow up wealthy are conditioned to desire wealthy partners. These are the sort people they see socially while growing up and they learn to value money as a necessary part of a relationship. I don't judge them for this. It's how wealth maintains itself.
I'm not married to a billionaire, but I do know three, (billionaires). I don't feel this should in any way lower my self worth as a woman.
yes. this. if they are used to a luxurious life, why change it?
and they see the commoners way of life and go, "omg...uh no. ew." and goes away. lol
j/k.
but that's what i'm guessing.
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Exactly. They can't imagine a life without luxury. They live in mansions, drive luxury cars, vacation to the best places, own horses, ride in private planes... It's just their reality.
damn.....Trump is leo rising...so that means he loves a woman with Aquarius/Uranus traits. lol
his first wife is Aquarius dominant. haha.
Melania has no rising.... but, there's air there.

Posted by MysticalSoul
If a woman wants to use a man for his wealth, so be it. We all have free will and can do as we please. But don't expect to gain respect from others when you're completely capable of creating something for yourself but you choose to mooch off of people because it's the easiest route. It's pathetic.
your judgements are super harsh.
and full of spite. *smh*
then don't respect them, they don't need your respect. leave them alone then..
they got their own.
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Posted by lisabethur8
Posted by MysticalSoul
I feel as if a lot of women out there are just lazy. They'd rather rely on a man they don't love to support them than to provide for themselves.So in that case the man is using the woman for a place to bust nuts on and the woman is using the man for a way to buy designer clothes. It's not even about love at that point, just about benefits.
Whatever happened to being with someone because you genuinely care?
are you a man??
because it seems like men are always pissed off, or feeling pissed off at women choosing wealthy men.
not all men of course.
but I get a lot of animosity from the men section.
is it something about yourself (projection) that you hate about these women who choose billiionaires/millionaires??
like you hate on those men too? because they got the power?
Nope. I'm a female who believes women should work just as hard as men to achieve their goals in life. I find it ironic how most women wish to be equal to men but don't act as their equal.
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you are not the boss of them, lady.
edit - plus I think maybe you're a bit "jealous"
cause only women with raging pissed off at other women do this,
if you c'est la vie, let them live how they want to live,
then you wouldn't care and only water your own lawn.
Posted by MysticalSoul
Posted by lisabethur8
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Posted by MysticalSoul
I feel as if a lot of women out there are just lazy. They'd rather rely on a man they don't love to support them than to provide for themselves.So in that case the man is using the woman for a place to bust nuts on and the woman is using the man for a way to buy designer clothes. It's not even about love at that point, just about benefits.
Whatever happened to being with someone because you genuinely care?
are you a man??
because it seems like men are always pissed off, or feeling pissed off at women choosing wealthy men.
not all men of course.
but I get a lot of animosity from the men section.
is it something about yourself (projection) that you hate about these women who choose billiionaires/millionaires??
like you hate on those men too? because they got the power?
Nope. I'm a female who believes women should work just as hard as men to achieve their goals in life. I find it ironic how most women wish to be equal to men but don't act as their equal.
you are not the boss of them, lady.
edit - plus I think maybe you're a bit "jealous"
cause only women with raging pissed off at other women do this,
if you c'est la vie, let them live how they want to live,
then you wouldn't care and only water your own lawn.
lol, no. i'm not jealous. Maybe I just have strong views on things.. views that others disagree with. that's fine though.
I stated that a person should put in hard work for what they want in life, not rely on others. Nothing about that mindset indicates that i'm jealous.
I let people live how they want. The OP posted this topic because she was probably curious about what others thought about it. I'm posting my opinion. Point blank period.
If people want to mooch off of others then it is what is it. I still find it pathetic though. It won't stop them from doing it, will it? No. I'm just putting my 2 cents into a public forum.
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haha ok. but you do sound jealous, and envious. and narrow minded too. Because, you were never in that situation, or you can't imagine being in that situation. For me, I like it that they want what they want, and if they can get that wealthy man, more power to you gal!!!
some women just can't get these men that's all. lol
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Posted by beautifulday
I'm way to proud to live off someone else's money. I need to have my own career and individuality or I will become sad and unhappy.I can marry a rich guy and have dated couple of millionaires before but I can't be just an arm candy. I need my career and my own goals separately from my partner.
At Least someone sees where i'm coming from.
Some people like to be independent and aren't okay with the idea of depending on others for things they can achieve on their own.
Much respect for you. Seems like you've got a good head on your shoulders.
I doubt that was the message OP was delivering....becoming a leach of another person's money. We are talking about men "marrying" these women making them wives. And the examples of women she used had their own careers they just weren't as successful as their husband. If a man wants that type of women that's his business. I can't look down on her if that's the agreement they decided on.
But most people really aren't "independent" and people use the word too loosely. If you work for an employer then you are dependent on them for a paycheck. So you're dependent on them for your daily survival. If you get a formal decent education most people take out loans to cover tuition. You are dependent on the government for your education. The list goes on. Very few people can actually say they are independent. I don't see why you think you deserve so much credit for average shit.
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pfft she doesn't want to hear any "noble" intentions coming from women of this ilk. Pfttttt to her all women should be independent.
Posted by beautifulday
I'm way to proud to live off someone else's money. I need to have my own career and individuality or I will become sad and unhappy.I can marry a rich guy and have dated couple of millionaires before but I can't be just an arm candy. I need my career and my own goals separately from my partner.
as long as you are happy!!
do you lady.
Posted by irreconcilabledifferences
it sounds outdatedi think the women who would have been into rich men are now instagram hookers
or like their mom was a gold digger in the 80s
failed at nabbing a rich dude
now her daughter is in every dan bilzerian post
awww. that sounds sad.
they have shows "how to marry a millionaire"
Posted by AriesLove
Posted by MysticalSoul
Posted by beautifulday
I'm way to proud to live off someone else's money. I need to have my own career and individuality or I will become sad and unhappy.I can marry a rich guy and have dated couple of millionaires before but I can't be just an arm candy. I need my career and my own goals separately from my partner.
At Least someone sees where i'm coming from.
Some people like to be independent and aren't okay with the idea of depending on others for things they can achieve on their own.
Much respect for you. Seems like you've got a good head on your shoulders.
I doubt that was the message OP was delivering....becoming a leach of another person's money. We are talking about men "marrying" these women making them wives. And the examples of women she used had their own careers they just weren't as successful as their husband. If a man wants that type of women that's his business. I can't look down on her if that's the agreement they decided on.
But most people really aren't "independent" and people use the word too loosely. If you work for an employer then you are dependent on them for a paycheck. So you're dependent on them for your daily survival. If you get a formal decent education most people take out loans to cover tuition. You are dependent on the government for your education. The list goes on. Very few people can actually say they are independent. I don't see why you think you deserve so much credit for average shit.
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you actually have a lot of valid points, but to these types of women, who would rather be on their own without a man, or if they have a man, they are equal. lol
I want my man powerful and rich, like Bill Gates. hahahaha 😆
I cant be serious today. lol 😛
I want power!! does he got power....yessss mmmmm yummy nonmnom nom.
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Posted by lisabethur8
Posted by irreconcilabledifferences
it sounds outdatedi think the women who would have been into rich men are now instagram hookers
or like their mom was a gold digger in the 80s
failed at nabbing a rich dude
now her daughter is in every dan bilzerian post
awww. that sounds sad.
they have shows "how to marry a millionaire"
but they're so old
how long have they been trying jeezuz
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lol 😆
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Posted by MysticalSoul
I feel as if a lot of women out there are just lazy. They'd rather rely on a man they don't love to support them than to provide for themselves.So in that case the man is using the woman for a place to bust nuts on and the woman is using the man for a way to buy designer clothes. It's not even about love at that point, just about benefits.
Whatever happened to being with someone because you genuinely care?
are you a man??
because it seems like men are always pissed off, or feeling pissed off at women choosing wealthy men.
not all men of course.
but I get a lot of animosity from the men section.
is it something about yourself (projection) that you hate about these women who choose billiionaires/millionaires??
like you hate on those men too? because they got the power?
Nope. I'm a female who believes women should work just as hard as men to achieve their goals in life. I find it ironic how most women wish to be equal to men but don't act as their equal.
you are not the boss of them, lady.
edit - plus I think maybe you're a bit "jealous"
cause only women with raging pissed off at other women do this,
if you c'est la vie, let them live how they want to live,
then you wouldn't care and only water your own lawn.
lol, no. i'm not jealous. Maybe I just have strong views on things.. views that others disagree with. that's fine though.
I stated that a person should put in hard work for what they want in life, not rely on others. Nothing about that mindset indicates that i'm jealous.
I let people live how they want. The OP posted this topic because she was probably curious about what others thought about it. I'm posting my opinion. Point blank period.
If people want to mooch off of others then it is what is it. I still find it pathetic though. It won't stop them from doing it, will it? No. I'm just putting my 2 cents into a public forum.
haha ok. but you do sound jealous, and envious. and narrow minded too. Because, you were never in that situation, or you can't imagine being in that situation. For me, I like it that they want what they want, and if they can get that wealthy man, more power to you gal!!!
some women just can't get these men that's all. lol
Lol of course I haven't been in this situation. Have you? Have most women? How often do you interact with millionaires who are willing to take you out on a date? That's not the reason for why I feel this way. If someone's opinion opposes yours it doesn't automatically make them jealous or envious. I'm sure it would be awesome to be a trophy wife/gold digger. I'm also sure that if I, or any other woman, was given the chance to be with a millionaire they'd take it. That's something that no one ever refuses (seeing how human beings are money hungry) but obv no one wants to struggle in life. I just think a woman who is married to a wealthy man should atleast have something to fall back on. His money isn't your money and when he leaves you or loses interest you're back to square one. That's why it would make sense to at least make a living for yourself.
"some women just can't get these men that's all." Include yourself in that list.
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lol i'm not gonna say too much but I've been in situations where millionaires asked me to marry them.
true story.
but you putting down women shows you want to control them, by voicing out your putridness. lol it's not like they are gonna go, "ohhh she said I shouldn't!!! I better listen."
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Billionaires or Millionaires. 😛
so what do you ladies feel about this?
I was just wondering because sometimes I feel when I talk some certain ladies, and they discuss about maybe these women are controlled and I thought, hmm what does it matter if they marry a millionaire /billionaire? why does it offend some ladies out there?
i'm guessing lots of women look up to other types of women.
what type do you look up to?
this type?
I remember reading how MeganFox loved her and put her name or face on her tattoo but then realized how mentally unstable Marilyn was so she took it out or something. but lots of women in the world used to, or still look up to her.
how about this woman? Eleanor Roosevelt?
what types do you like? Ayn Rand?