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Damnata
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Posted by scorchedearth
the virgo i am always talking about told me she would never express her feelings to me because i got back together with my aries ex because she was taking too long deciding if she wanted to be with me or not. i was 19. not my best or most mature idea. after that though she never talked about feelings at all. like an ice citadel. and she made fun of me for expressing mine. heavy mocking. and tried to police my feelings. the only time she ever expressed feelings at all is when i had broken up with my pisces ex and she was trying to win me back when i went cold on her. then "i've always loved you" came out and at that point it was already too late. we continued on with the dance after that too for a couple of years. i finally just changed my number and never gave her my new one.



She was an user and one of those manipulative Virgos I mentioned. Run when you see someone mocking your way of expressing yourself...they are in it to manipulate you.

Someone genuine would never mock you even if they would be upset in the moment or angry whatever. They would never make light of someone's feelings. Friend or otherwise.
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Posted by tiziani
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How much emotional content do you make allowance for in a relationship usually on a week to week basis Damnata?



A lot..as long as they understand I might not match them in intensity or respond how they wish me to. I will respond but my way of expression is not that intense I think.

If they have issues with that, based on their ego "How dare you not show your feels to me like I bark mine from up the street?", I will be done soon enough. If they approach me with "I want to know where this is headed and if we're on the same wavelength emotionally", then I will joyfully do my best.

Bottom line..anything that is good for the relationship will be supported and encouraged by me. Everything that is an ego contest will make me run away.

I understand people have different ways to express themselves..I wish the other people would too.




Avoiding false competition, yeah, I completely relate to that part. The rest sounds sensible.
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You'd think with the fire in my chart, I'd be "my way or the highway" a lot of the time..but no. I am only competitive if we play some boardgames or some sport or fight with pillows..anything childish basically.

To sum it up:

"Here's to you and here's to me
And here's to love and laughter,
I'll be true as long as you
But not a minute after"
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Damnata
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Posted by tiziani
I think Virgos like to rob other people of the glory.


If they make a mistake, rather than acknowledging it... Virgo:"Ok let's just move on"


If someone else makes an insightful comment, Virgo:"Of course but I knew that already"


I remember that was in a thread here somewhere, I think those articles that Damnata posted a long time back.



Yes, the one with the Virgo Shadow.

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Damnata
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WIFE: (to Virgo husband) I've just discovered something really interesting. It was in my oil painting class. If you dilute oil paints with turps and float them on water and then dip paper??_

VIRGO: Yes, I know all about that. I learned to do it years ago. But you have to make sure you don't use too much turps, or it gets too runny. Next time let me help you with it.

WIFE: But my paintings come out really well. (Feeling slightly deflated because it would be really nice, once in a while, to surprise him with something he didn't already know.)

VIRGO: I'm sure they did. It's just that I might be able to help you to mix the colours better. It's not easy.

WIFE: Oh, and I read in the paper today??_.

VIRGO: I know. About the new budget cuts.

WIFE: Yes, I really think that if the government expects to help the economy, they ought to??_

VIRGO: Before you criticize the bill, you should really learn more about it. I studied political and economic philosophy for years. I'm convinced it's the best thing they could possibly do.

WIFE: But??_

VIRGO: Never mind. I know I'm right.

Sounds fairly innocent on the surface. Just an ordinary know-it-all. But the destructive side of Virgo's shadow takes a long time to bear its fruits. Try this on somebody over a period of a few years and you never allow them ever to learn anything, find out anything, think anything, that they can give you. You've taken it all already. You know it beforehand. It's one of the most insidious and deadly ways of crushing another person's creativity that could happen. And it's one of the darker edges of Virgo. The Virgo shadow slowly and in tiny, unnoticeable steps, completely erodes another individual's trust in their own self, mistakes or not. The Virgo shadow, as one of its compulsions, has a positively horrific fear of being mistaken or wrong. There is something about having something not quite known, labeled, classified, that is intolerable. But life is full of mistakes, and so are people, and so, probably, is God. The Virgo shadow, in its own way, kills life, because it tries to remove life's unpredictability and unevenness.
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Posted by CluelessCancer
someone say they have sound reasoning, when they say whatever they want, careless with their words, and actions and hurt those around them? does that sound like something a LOGICAL person would do, or someone who is illogical and highly emotionally RETARDED—



Pretty much sounds like what someone Logical would do, yes. I will not waste time with you because I don't give a fuck. By me not giving a fuck, why would you expect a nice treatment? It's logical for me to act in accordance with how I feel about you. So yeah, kick rocks.

Not talking about you CC but if you haven't seen people acting completely different with one person or the next, based on whatever masks they have going on...then I cannot explain human nature to you.

Again, if a Virgo CARES about you, you'll never have a more devoted, loyal partner. I think everyone should date a Virgo at some point so we can put your lives on track and show you your true potential.
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Posted by CluelessCancer
I've dealt with Virgos for a very long time and the passive aggressiveness, the need to run away from conflict instead of facing issues head on preferring to throw friendships, relationships, etc is really pitiful...



Ok, this I can see in my father at least.

We don't run away from conflict, we get distant because we don't know how to act on it at the moment. If you ever saw an angry Virgo, you'd see we lose all semblance of normality..it's fucking freaky how angry we get. So we want to avoid that..will take a step back to figure out how to approach it. And if during that time we figure out you don't mean a lot to us..then yeah, why not go cold and go no contact? I haven't seen one post of yours CC where you really really tried to understand the Virgo mindset..without you resorting to insults. If you carry the same energy IRL, I'm not surprised they run a mile. I got cheated on by a Cap, I harbor no ill feelings so it's illogical for me how you don't want to move away from this negative shit.

I will explain myself if there's a valid issue being addressed....and there's a trick there with "valid" since validity is dependent upon the Virgo's analysis. Else they will just dismiss you.

I do strive to answer to people in general if they have a concern but sometimes life gets in the way and I get tired and it's too taxing..bla bla. Then I retreat in my Ivory Tower.

Bottomline people: If a Virgo criticizes you with a malicious intent (we can nag and care about you lol), if they mock your feelings, if they make the choice to never reveal yours, if they run away from you addressing issues, if they take the "right" stance in every discussion = they do NOT care about you. It's as simple as that.

I think even at our worst there remains a semblance of purity/truth around us and you need to REALLY open your eyes and see those Virgos clearly. Because they are manipulative and they know it..and some of us are worse than all the rest of the signs with it.
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Posted by PVandJelleh
Posted by Damnata
I re-read all CC and Pvaf's posts...

I'm sorry I just honestly cannot relate with them..not me, not the Virgos I know.

I am sure Virgos like that do exist and it's a pity you folks ran into them.

Maybe you're one of the good ones. 😛
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I don't know hon, I often wonder. People who meet me have usually polarized opinions..they either hate me off the bat or really like me.

I'm just walking the fine line I think 🙂)
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Posted by Damnata
Sounds fairly innocent on the surface. Just an ordinary know-it-all. But the destructive side of Virgo's shadow takes a long time to bear its fruits. Try this on somebody over a period of a few years and you never allow them ever to learn anything, find out anything, think anything, that they can give you. You've taken it all already. You know it beforehand. It's one of the most insidious and deadly ways of crushing another person's creativity that could happen. And it's one of the darker edges of Virgo. The Virgo shadow slowly and in tiny, unnoticeable steps, completely erodes another individual's trust in their own self, mistakes or not. The Virgo shadow, as one of its compulsions, has a positively horrific fear of being mistaken or wrong. There is something about having something not quite known, labeled, classified, that is intolerable. But life is full of mistakes, and so are people, and so, probably, is God. The Virgo shadow, in its own way, kills life, because it tries to remove life's unpredictability and unevenness.



This explains why my Virguy got upset with me after correcting him on how to pronounce labrum. 😄
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Posted by CluelessCancer
Posted by Damnata
I re-read all CC and Pvaf's posts...

I'm sorry I just honestly cannot relate with them..not me, not the Virgos I know.

I am sure Virgos like that do exist and it's a pity you folks ran into them.



It doesn't matter if you can't relate or compute, it's the truth. My truths atleast. Yet again you're being defensive and not even attempting to acknowledge other people's insight into certain virgos.

its a lose lose situation with you ppl.
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I am not being defensive I just acknowledged there are some Virgos out there who fit with your experience of Virgos and PVAF's also.

Not sure why you cannot see that or read what I said.
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Posted by CluelessCancer
Question then-Why do these Virgos who don't "CARE" cling to the people that they don't "CARE" about? Why are they there?? Me personally, if I don't CARE, I ain't spending another minute talking to that person or being around them. I notice that these individuals who don't "CARE" and who are mightly close and even familial with their friends, partners, still DOG them out Behind their backs....and allow their insecurities to make create lots of problems with their friends/partners/etc. What's that about?

Why don't Virgos remove themselves completely from those they don't "CARE"" about. Why



Not sure why you think we operate the same as you do. We don't.

A Virgo not caring for you is the same as a stranger in the crowd, they aren't bound by morality to be in your corner, to help you etc. They just follow their life and their needs..as we all do.

Bringing up selfishness..Virgos are selfish with their money and probably with their time. Emotional selfishness is all Cancer territory..since we're talking real shit here. Cancers can pick which part of their many moods to reveal and that for me is selfish..alongside the woe is me, I am a victim stance.

Again a stranger on the street does NOT owe you anything.
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Again CC has known one Virgo man intimately and...2 or 3 Virgos in her life.

If you're not in our inner circle..and every time you talked about a Virgo acquaintance it wasn't anything other than an acquaintance..you don't really have a grasp about what we're like...at all.

I lived with myself, my Virgo dad and a lot of Virgos friends all my life..I think I know what we're on about. Not dismissing our faults at all.

CC your situation is simple..the guy does not give a fuck about you. You you think he cares and force yourself to go there with him..I have no idea. You must be a glutton for punishment because all he does is play games and all you do is play alongside him. Detach from his, he's one of the Virgo users and meet nice folks in your life. You can do it.

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Posted by LilyTree
This is odd. My mother, best friend, and Virguy were my biggest cheerleaders. All of them are virgo. My Virguy was so supportive in an authentic way in the sense that he didn't just tell me I could do it, he genuinely encourage me while also offering advice to be sure all angles were covered. Once, after he brought peace of mind to me when I was nervous about a particular event, I told him: "You'd believe I could fly." My Virgos didn't just cheerlead me in my immediate goal or ambition, they showed me that I could take it even further. This reminded me not to rest on my laurels and to keep looking forward.



Like I said, a Virgo who cares about you will be your greatest supporter. No 1 Fan.
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Posted by CluelessCancer
Question then-Why do these Virgos who don't "CARE" cling to the people that they don't "CARE" about? Why are they there?? Me personally, if I don't CARE, I ain't spending another minute talking to that person or being around them. I notice that these individuals who don't "CARE" and who are mightly close and even familial with their friends, partners, still DOG them out Behind their backs....and allow their insecurities to make create lots of problems with their friends/partners/etc. What's that about?

Why don't Virgos remove themselves completely from those they don't "CARE"" about. Why



In advance I am saying this outta care but: The Virgos that you are dealing with do that. Stop dealing with them, and learn how to disengage, if you don't know how then ask for help and exert self control.

You are planting someone who is just meant to be there for a season turn into a life-time. When that happens they become weed-like and end up choking the vitality out of your life.

Assert yourself over your circumstances and disengage.
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+1

I don't think anyone on the Virgo Board wishes CC's harm but the way she goes round and round is sad. I wish she'd wise up and let the user go.
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Posted by Ixion120
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Sometimes I wish people would stop overanalysing life and would just live it instead.



Please do elaborate LoR, Which aspects here are being over-analyzed?



Nothing in particular that was discussed in this thread. But as I was reading through the posts I realised how much we analyse the interactions with fellow human beings and at that moment it just felt a bit much, if that makes sense. I think observation is a good thing but it shouldn't get to the point where it hinders us from living life freely and to it's full potential, which I think includes living in the moment and going with the flow.

It's just a general thought though, so you guys can carry on😛
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Yeah, I am more with the flow IRL but I thought I should just focus my mind a little and try to reply seriously.
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Will my Virgo rising ever take a break/vacation?? Sometimes I feel as an Aries sun I'm a little child raring to go and as I'm about bound out the door my Virgo mother stops me and is like "wait, look in the mirror... are you really going out like that?" I bow my head and say "no..." and stalk back in to change. Sometimes if it's busy enough I can sneak out in sweats and sneakers... but then I always get reprimanded later...


Y U NO LET ME BE—


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Posted by tiziani
Posted by Ixion120
Posted by LadyOfRebirth
Sometimes I wish people would stop overanalysing life and would just live it instead.



Please do elaborate LoR, Which aspects here are being over-analyzed?




Were you trying for supreme irony when you asked this?



What's ironic is people complaining about virgos overanalyzing when they're overanalyzing virgos.
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+1
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Posted by tiziani
Posted by xtina
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Posted by LadyOfRebirth
Sometimes I wish people would stop overanalysing life and would just live it instead.



Yes. This is me in '14. Really not much going up in my brain other than the bare essentials.



But what if living it is overanalyzing—



Wow stay away from me with your existentialist questions xtina : P
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That is the second time I've been accused of that -_-... maybe I should start reading Nietzsche or Dostoyesky.
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Posted by LadyOfRebirth
Posted by Damnata
Ixion and Pothead..thanks for getting in this thread and answering questions 😄

I actually like this thread..we are discussing Virgos in general not only relationshit issues..like the rest of "Ask a Sign" threads 😄



But talking about feels and drama is so much fun😛
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Oh I am not here to restrict anyone from saying anything 😄

Freedom of speech is a beautiful thing.

I seriously luff this thread.
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Posted by scorchedearth
damnata i was going to ask you "why are virgos so sexy?" but i think you'd think it was trolling. 😢



You know I don't see it hon. Not false modesty..I don't

We are pretty unassuming so people thinking of us as sexy = blank O__O

Our modest demeanor? Our champagne eyes - I seriously think every Virgo has champagne eyes..our eyes sparkle when we smile. Our Renaissance features? I have no idea lol.

What do you find sexy about Virgos?
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Posted by scorchedearth
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Posted by VirgoChyld
We always misunderstood so no use trying to explain

But sometimes you're misunderstood because you don't explain... 😐



sometimes they do try to explain and it's like...

virgo: LOGIC LOGIC LOGIC LOGIC

you: feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelings

virgo: "...."

which is neither parties fault. it just is what it is. 😛
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Bingo! Lost in translation