
HighTide
@HighTide
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Posted by Nefer
Did you let your hurt EGO write that for you? Cuz that sure as hell wasn't your HEART writing to a woman you LOVE and want to be with!
Personally, I think your letter was petty, rude and attacking.. and clearly, by her answer back to you.. so did she.

Posted by scorchedearth
the thing i've noticed... virgos, like all women, respond best to heartfelt apologies and sincerity. if you try to manipulate her it will FAIL. if you try to finger point and blame her for all the feelings that you're refusing to work through she's probably going to continue responding in ways that seem to reaffirm that she's trying to hurt you.
no one likes to have assumptions made about them, true or not. no one likes to feel attacked by someone.
question: if someone sent you a message like the one you sent her... how would you respond to it? how would you feel if someone seemed to be using the concept of love as a weapon against you?
idea: spend a few days (or more) writing a letter to her. read it, and reread it, and rewrite it. do not use emotionally manipulative language. let her know that you've accepted your part of things. do not place blame. do not try to force her into feeling anything. just write all the things you've felt and let her know in no uncertain terms that you still care for her deeply, you know that you were both wrong in ways (dont focus on this part), she lingers in your heart, and that above all you wish her nothing but happiness (and let her know that you know she deserves nothing less) whether you're with her or not/whether she's in your life or not. let her know that you're willing to take baby steps to see if you can be in each others lives again. give no expiration date on that. don't use any sort of forceful language or try to make it happen NOW.
realize that if you love her like you say you do... waiting isnt a big deal. making sure she feels safe and respected is. your hurt feelings are important, but not at the expense of her. if you're not ready to talk to her let that be known too, but that you hope that at some point later that you can be in each others lives again.
understand that this is not about you and your injured ego. her feelings, her walls. both of those are as important as your stuff.
and for gods sake man, quite assuming you know what she thought or felt. you have no idea at all unless she's told you, cancer or not. no one can ever feel the depth of someone elses feelings because no one can ever be another person.




Posted by VulcanLass
There is a big difference between being emotionally supportive with her feelings versus holding her past or current
situation emotionally hostage.(Message she is recieving from you = you've got mental problems and kids,no one will touch yo,so come on back and sit your butt down here).
Whether it is 2 years or 200 months,she will still be pissed at you ,if this is the attitude that you slap on the table and shove towards her.
Show her that you have grown from this experience,that you have changed,show her HideTide 2.0 , take responsibility for your part in this relationship.I give you no specifics because,you need to find your way here.Not to parrot what Virgo Women tell you to do just to get her back and then have it go,business as usual.Show her change and grow ,solely by your actions.If you want her ,win her back not badger and insult her.

Posted by VulcanLass
Show her that you have grown from this experience,that you have changed,show her HideTide 2.0 , take responsibility for your part in this relationship.I give you no specifics because,you need to find your way here.Not to parrot what Virgo Women tell you to do just to get her back and then have it go,business as usual.Show her change and grow ,solely by your actions.If you want her ,win her back not badger and insult her.

Posted by HighTide
A Your right, I guess she just held me to a higher standard and I didn't even realize it before it was too late. Her mom is an emotional person like myself so I thought it wasn't a big deal to her.
1)She is dating you ,not her mom.She may not see the similarities,so she familiar with your emotionality.
A.Her dad got arrested for child pornography when we were dating and he had molested her when she was a child so I was standoffish about her getting away from him. Her mom acting like nothing was wrong in all this.
2)Molestation is about power.Obviously she is wounded.This is something that she is going to have to figure out.It's typical of molestation victims to behave the way she does.If are your are abusing her emotionally,you are no better than her father.
3/A.You are right about this, I didn't show enough strength or wisdom in this department.
Thank you for admitting this.
4/A.I had alot of time to think about everything us being apart. I would blame myself, then I would go back to her leaving me at a vulnerable moment in my life and the cycle would just restart over again. I told her I have gotten into therapy and she was happy for me.
It's not a matter of placing blame,it's about your responsibility.
5)you made it a point to point out her health issues,you actually called her bi-polar(goes without saying)
A.I did admit I was emotionally unstable to her, but I felt she was too hard on me on silly things. But your right, It didn't need to be said.
Uh communication—?So you don't care what matters to her.Swell.
6)and you used her children as an emotional pawn here.(I'm doing this for them,--and you won't let me,wrong wrong wrong)
I didn't meant to use them as an emotional pawn, 6A) Have you stopped it?
I just felt like alot of people were causing our relationship problems like her parent and I wanted her,myself and the kids to get away from all that. 6B) If you're not a safe person to be with,why should dhe go with you?
I didn't want her dad molesting her children like he did her someday. She was being loyal to him over me after all he had done and I was furious about it.
6C)Noble thought.It's complicated.She needs help.You are not her therapist.Don't you mind f her over this.What are you going to offer her ?

Posted by HighTidePosted by VulcanLass
Show her that you have grown from this experience,that you have changed,show her HideTide 2.0 , take responsibility for your part in this relationship.I give you no specifics because,you need to find your way here.Not to parrot what Virgo Women tell you to do just to get her back and then have it go,business as usual.Show her change and grow ,solely by your actions.If you want her ,win her back not badger and insult her.
I will do whatever to change and I am honestly in the process of trying to be a better man, I just feel like every time she wants to get back together she thinks of the things I did and then doesn't want to give me another chance and won't ever forget about it. Every ex I have ever had seems to be more responsive to me except her but I want to truly understand.
I thought about sending her a song yesterday, IFFY THE BADMAN-DO YOU yet I feel like it wouldn't touch her at all. When we were together it would have 😢click to expand



Posted by VulcanLass
Now ya talking.


Posted by HarveyBlindPew
Your parents are freaks of forgotten nature and you have emotional stability issues.
P.s. I love you so much!
I mean really, the only thing you left out of your letter is how silly she dresses--which is likely to be very silly indeed.

Posted by HighTide^ 5 years ago
Is it possible to win back a Virgo woman to the point she is open to the idea of having a relationship again?
I am still in love with this person, and have been ever since we were kids
Posted by HighTide^present topic
I have known this person since we were kidsclick to expand

Posted by Damnatayour more interested in bumping this because you thought you caught me in a lie when I was talking about someone entirely different.Posted by HighTide^ 5 years ago
Is it possible to win back a Virgo woman to the point she is open to the idea of having a relationship again?
I am still in love with this person, and have been ever since we were kids
Posted by HighTide^present topic
I have known this person since we were kids
...really what are you playing at?click to expand




Posted by HighTideYou're*Posted by Damnatayour more interested in bumping this because you thought you caught me in a lie when I was talking about someone entirely different.Posted by HighTide^ 5 years ago
Is it possible to win back a Virgo woman to the point she is open to the idea of having a relationship again?
I am still in love with this person, and have been ever since we were kids
Posted by HighTide^present topic
I have known this person since we were kids
...really what are you playing at?
click to expand
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I am still in love with this person, and have been ever since we were kids but I felt I got too insecure and needy as a Cancer man and she just decided one day that was the end of of, no time away from each other, just over and done.
Is there a strong possibility that if I wait 2 solid years that we would totally forgive me and we could work something out or should I not hold my breath?
I messaged her on facebook recently to basically tell her I have had problems getting over her and receiving closure....
ME
You also might think I am like your ex Rob and I am sorry you feel that way considering how much I love you and always will, but I don't feel like I have done anything worse to you than what your mom or dad have done or said. I guess I misjudged that only THEY can show their vulnerable side to you and it be ok. You can't blame me for thinking it was ok based on how you let them get away and what you do for them. You yourself can be very bipolar Carolyn and even I accepted that part of your personality.
I also assumed you enjoyed calming down people who get overly emotional "I love my Cancers" like your mom or get themselves into pickles like your dad did and needed your help. When I was vulnerable and going off into the deep end in Colorado, it seemed like you just let me sink and cut all ties .Do you remember when you always said "Don't leave me Mr.Lee", well I took that to heart more than you did towards me.
But I am not not mad about this because I know I made mistakes, yet I know in my heart through God that I was just trying to protect you and especially your kids from people who might could cause them harm.That is why I was trying to get something going in Colorado for all of us .The biggest problem in our relationship was communication, you said u wanted to get away from your dad and everything, but he was with u at Christmas, not me. So I am just going to assume you changed your mind and that I was no longer needed in your life
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Yes everyone says things at some point they wish they could take back
I know I have. I don't think you are anything like Rob. I dont think youre worse than my parents, or even in the same ball park. I am well aware of my imperfections/bipolar disorder. Never tried to say I was better than you