Is Virgo sun with venus in scorpio toxic?

This topic was created in the Virgo forum by gendut on Thursday, November 25, 2021 and has 25 replies.

Is Virgo Sun with Venus in Scorpio Toxic

Having a Virgo sun and Venus in Scorpio does not automatically indicate toxicity. Compatibility depends on overall planetary aspects and individual personalities. Challenges like narcissism or egoism can arise but are not solely determined by these placements. Understanding the full natal chart offers better insight into relationship dynamics and potential issues.

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@gendut
5 Years

Virgo sun & mars, Taurus moon, Libra mercury, and venus in scorpio.

What can I see is all stable and good sign. But why is he so narcissistic and egoistic? It's been more than a year since we met up and everything goes fast, because I'm clingy pisces . He open up and loved me eventually, but he can not stop the urge to start chatting/open dating app? Never really cheat (in his humble opinion) , because I caught him early, always.

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5 Years

Posted by virgoOPPP

i have a super secret crush on a virgo sun/scorpio venus but even i know not to trust that combo.

he sounds like typical earth sign man hoe.

Noooo... I really think earth sign the most faithfull one ๐Ÿ˜ญ I'm in love with him, he did too, but now we are in very bumpy ride.

His virgo now trying to push me away again. He said he cannot trust himself and might looking for another chick, then it hurt me and we will arguing like crazy again.

I know at this time, he just trying to push me away with his indecisiveness,but I also know he want also perhaps making his way, so when it's happened, he will just said I told you before.

My pisces sun rising and venus just can't leave him, and still trying to "win" him back.

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@gendut
5 Years

Posted by jukey

He may want an aquarium

๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

But he told me, before he was a very strict man (about girl). Only the last 5 years, he is like this.

I just think, he is late bloomer. But 5 years of playing around is not enough for him ๐Ÿ˜ต๐Ÿคฎ

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8 Years1,000+ Posts

Posted by gendut

Posted by virgoOPPP

i have a super secret crush on a virgo sun/scorpio venus but even i know not to trust that combo.

he sounds like typical earth sign man hoe.

Noooo... I really think earth sign the most faithfull one ๐Ÿ˜ญ I'm in love with him, he did too, but now we are in very bumpy ride.

His virgo now trying to push me away again. He said he cannot trust himself and might looking for another chick, then it hurt me and we will arguing like crazy again.

I know at this time, he just trying to push me away with his indecisiveness,but I also know he want also perhaps making his way, so when it's happened, he will just said I told you before.

My pisces sun rising and venus just can't leave him, and still trying to "win" him back.

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Why? If he's pushing you away - go

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13 Years25,000+ Posts

I think this is just how Virgos are. They sabotage relationships and expect you to stick around.

They will straighten up eventually, most times, but itโ€™s after theyโ€™ve done whatever they wanted and saw that you stuck by their side and fight to stay there. They seem to like women who put up with their shit and donโ€™t leave.

Itโ€™s like some weird test of loyalty.

They seriously want to be worshipped like a God or something.

His combination is ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ

Iโ€™d be in love too lol

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4 Years500+ Posts

Posted by gendut

Posted by virgoOPPP

i have a super secret crush on a virgo sun/scorpio venus but even i know not to trust that combo.

he sounds like typical earth sign man hoe.

Noooo... I really think earth sign the most faithfull one ๐Ÿ˜ญ I'm in love with him, he did too, but now we are in very bumpy ride.

His virgo now trying to push me away again. He said he cannot trust himself and might looking for another chick, then it hurt me and we will arguing like crazy again.

I know at this time, he just trying to push me away with his indecisiveness,but I also know he want also perhaps making his way, so when it's happened, he will just said I told you before.

My pisces sun rising and venus just can't leave him, and still trying to "win" him back.

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How does your Pisces Venus manifest in love? I am very interested in hearing about other Pisces Venus experiences, as I myself am one, and it really makes life difficult. I've been a "Sorrows of young Werther" in love since my teenage years. Bummer

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@Gem03
9 Years

1) dating apps when you are in a relationship is CHEATING

2) he's a manipulative narc

3) A man's indecisiveness is a rejection.

4) Regardless of their signs and placements if a man is loyal then he is. This virgo sounds like a lil hoe

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@gendut
5 Years

Posted by cake

Yet here we all are, never missing an opportunity to take the earth sign express train ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜ญ.

Stay strong ladies ๐Ÿ’ช

Thank you ๐Ÿ˜‰

My life sucks, that I think I found a stable steady family man ๐Ÿ˜ช๐Ÿ˜ซ

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@gendut
5 Years

Posted by ImperfectStorm

My placements are inverse to this so I wouldnโ€™t mind meeting a man with these placements actually lol ๐Ÿค”

No, he will destroy your life ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ

But he is a good person and have a good personality so as friends or familly you will be very lucky you have him. But as a woman to meet him, he is red flag everywhere.

It's just my dumb pisces ass only addicted to redflag

I don't know his rising. But virgo is actually in closet narcissist unlike leo you can feel his narcissistic from miles away ๐Ÿคฃ

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5 Years

Posted by saggurl88

I think this is just how Virgos are. They sabotage relationships and expect you to stick around.

They will straighten up eventually, most times, but itโ€™s after theyโ€™ve done whatever they wanted and saw that you stuck by their side and fight to stay there. They seem to like women who put up with their shit and donโ€™t leave.

Itโ€™s like some weird test of loyalty.

They seriously want to be worshipped like a God or something.

His combination is ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ

Iโ€™d be in love too lol

Agree agree agreed.

That's how I still by his side. Because he always playing this game, I will push you, but if you stick around I might perhaps gives you some love ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜ญ Toxic Toxic Toxic

But sometimes I did this game too. Sometimes I know I am very toxic too ๐Ÿ˜ they say take two to tango

The shitty about all this is, even he starting to love me an he want real future with me, he still don't understand what loyalty is ๐Ÿ˜”

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@gendut
5 Years

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Posted by gendut

Posted by virgoOPPP

i have a super secret crush on a virgo sun/scorpio venus but even i know not to trust that combo.

he sounds like typical earth sign man hoe.

Noooo... I really think earth sign the most faithfull one ๐Ÿ˜ญ I'm in love with him, he did too, but now we are in very bumpy ride.

His virgo now trying to push me away again. He said he cannot trust himself and might looking for another chick, then it hurt me and we will arguing like crazy again.

I know at this time, he just trying to push me away with his indecisiveness,but I also know he want also perhaps making his way, so when it's happened, he will just said I told you before.

My pisces sun rising and venus just can't leave him, and still trying to "win" him back.

How does your Pisces Venus manifest in love? I am very interested in hearing about other Pisces Venus experiences, as I myself am one, and it really makes life difficult. I've been a "Sorrows of young Werther" in love since my teenage years. Bummer

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Hello fellow venus in Pisces.

Actually I always avoid love, I just know since young age love is hurt. I love my family so much, that I always be what they wanted me to be, because I want their love. I know how to please people to get their heart. I'm very loyal like a dog, is also like that for friendship. It's a plus tho, I have so many bestfriends of my life, that I can always count on.

I always had some crush, but never ever tried to show it, no one can know.

Venus in Pisces love hard, but actually they love the image of love it self in their head, I know that. And eventually get very very hurt because no one can compare to that imagination.

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5 Years

Posted by Gem03

1) dating apps when you are in a relationship is CHEATING

2) he's a manipulative narc

3) A man's indecisiveness is a rejection.

4) Regardless of their signs and placements if a man is loyal then he is. This virgo sounds like a lil hoe

I know I know I know.. But... But...

๐Ÿ˜”๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜”๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜”๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜”๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜”๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜”

Lol I know his narcissistic hoe. How he always see himself in mirror. He has 3 mirror in his 3*4m room etc etc

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13 Years25,000+ Posts

Posted by gendut

Posted by saggurl88

I think this is just how Virgos are. They sabotage relationships and expect you to stick around.

They will straighten up eventually, most times, but itโ€™s after theyโ€™ve done whatever they wanted and saw that you stuck by their side and fight to stay there. They seem to like women who put up with their shit and donโ€™t leave.

Itโ€™s like some weird test of loyalty.

They seriously want to be worshipped like a God or something.

His combination is ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ

Iโ€™d be in love too lol

Agree agree agreed.

That's how I still by his side. Because he always playing this game, I will push you, but if you stick around I might perhaps gives you some love ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜ญ Toxic Toxic Toxic

But sometimes I did this game too. Sometimes I know I am very toxic too ๐Ÿ˜ they say take two to tango

The shitty about all this is, even he starting to love me an he want real future with me, he still don't understand what loyalty is ๐Ÿ˜”

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I donโ€™t think they ever will. Itโ€™s like they are ingrained to be a bachelor in their heads.

I dated one for 2 years and had the same issues. I never wanted to commit to him because he wasnโ€™t loyal. So we were just fwb and dating instead.

I ended things for good and got a boyfriend and now he tries to guilt trip me and tell me I never loved him, that I hated him, and that I tried harder with my current boyfriend.

I told him my current boyfriend only has time to entertain me, even while we dated. That was the difference.

And even now he tries to get me to cheat and thinks itโ€™s unfair to him that I didnโ€™t wait around for him. ๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿ™„

I love that my instincts were correct and that he was trash and not relationship material, which is the reason I kept my distance.

Do what you want, just like him, until you find someone more interesting ๐Ÿ˜… #Mutables ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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Posted by gendut

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Posted by virgoOPPP

i have a super secret crush on a virgo sun/scorpio venus but even i know not to trust that combo.

he sounds like typical earth sign man hoe.

Noooo... I really think earth sign the most faithfull one ๐Ÿ˜ญ I'm in love with him, he did too, but now we are in very bumpy ride.

His virgo now trying to push me away again. He said he cannot trust himself and might looking for another chick, then it hurt me and we will arguing like crazy again.

I know at this time, he just trying to push me away with his indecisiveness,but I also know he want also perhaps making his way, so when it's happened, he will just said I told you before.

My pisces sun rising and venus just can't leave him, and still trying to "win" him back.

How does your Pisces Venus manifest in love? I am very interested in hearing about other Pisces Venus experiences, as I myself am one, and it really makes life difficult. I've been a "Sorrows of young Werther" in love since my teenage years. Bummer

Hello fellow venus in Pisces.

Actually I always avoid love, I just know since young age love is hurt. I love my family so much, that I always be what they wanted me to be, because I want their love. I know how to please people to get their heart. I'm very loyal like a dog, is also like that for friendship. It's a plus tho, I have so many bestfriends of my life, that I can always count on.

I always had some crush, but never ever tried to show it, no one can know.

Venus in Pisces love hard, but actually they love the image of love it self in their head, I know that. And eventually get very very hurt because no one can compare to that imagination.

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Maybe you can handle it better as a Pisces Sun. I am an Aries with heavy Earth placements and some Air...Pisces Venus in the 5th House...so I have a very complicated love life...it engulfs me completely. I have a Libra Ascendant so I can get the part about family and knowing how to please people.

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5 Years

Posted by GenericUsername

Posted by gendut

Posted by GenericUsername

Posted by gendut

Posted by virgoOPPP

i have a super secret crush on a virgo sun/scorpio venus but even i know not to trust that combo.

he sounds like typical earth sign man hoe.

Noooo... I really think earth sign the most faithfull one ๐Ÿ˜ญ I'm in love with him, he did too, but now we are in very bumpy ride.

His virgo now trying to push me away again. He said he cannot trust himself and might looking for another chick, then it hurt me and we will arguing like crazy again.

I know at this time, he just trying to push me away with his indecisiveness,but I also know he want also perhaps making his way, so when it's happened, he will just said I told you before.

My pisces sun rising and venus just can't leave him, and still trying to "win" him back.

How does your Pisces Venus manifest in love? I am very interested in hearing about other Pisces Venus experiences, as I myself am one, and it really makes life difficult. I've been a "Sorrows of young Werther" in love since my teenage years. Bummer

Hello fellow venus in Pisces.

Actually I always avoid love, I just know since young age love is hurt. I love my family so much, that I always be what they wanted me to be, because I want their love. I know how to please people to get their heart. I'm very loyal like a dog, is also like that for friendship. It's a plus tho, I have so many bestfriends of my life, that I can always count on.

I always had some crush, but never ever tried to show it, no one can know.

Venus in Pisces love hard, but actually they love the image of love it self in their head, I know that. And eventually get very very hurt because no one can compare to that imagination.

Maybe you can handle it better as a Pisces Sun. I am an Aries with heavy Earth placements and some Air...Pisces Venus in the 5th House...so I have a very complicated love life...it engulfs me completely. I have a Libra Ascendant so I can get the part about family and knowing how to please people.

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My virgo moon the only things keep me ground in this world. Being a dreamy pisces is difficult, people will hurt you easily,when you love them, it worst.

Actually I would say you have good placements. Aries is outgoing b*tch,and can speak your mind but you have your gentle heart in pisces,and heavy earth placements make you ground and smart, knowing what you want and what you aim. I could say you are head strong girl with pure heart โ™ฅ you will definitely find happiness in love

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5 Years

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by gendut

Posted by saggurl88

I think this is just how Virgos are. They sabotage relationships and expect you to stick around.

They will straighten up eventually, most times, but itโ€™s after theyโ€™ve done whatever they wanted and saw that you stuck by their side and fight to stay there. They seem to like women who put up with their shit and donโ€™t leave.

Itโ€™s like some weird test of loyalty.

They seriously want to be worshipped like a God or something.

His combination is ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ

Iโ€™d be in love too lol

Agree agree agreed.

That's how I still by his side. Because he always playing this game, I will push you, but if you stick around I might perhaps gives you some love ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜ญ Toxic Toxic Toxic

But sometimes I did this game too. Sometimes I know I am very toxic too ๐Ÿ˜ they say take two to tango

The shitty about all this is, even he starting to love me an he want real future with me, he still don't understand what loyalty is ๐Ÿ˜”

I donโ€™t think they ever will. Itโ€™s like they are ingrained to be a bachelor in their heads.

I dated one for 2 years and had the same issues. I never wanted to commit to him because he wasnโ€™t loyal. So we were just fwb and dating instead.

I ended things for good and got a boyfriend and now he tries to guilt trip me and tell me I never loved him, that I hated him, and that I tried harder with my current boyfriend.

I told him my current boyfriend only has time to entertain me, even while we dated. That was the difference.

And even now he tries to get me to cheat and thinks itโ€™s unfair to him that I didnโ€™t wait around for him. ๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿ™„

I love that my instincts were correct and that he was trash and not relationship material, which is the reason I kept my distance.

Do what you want, just like him, until you find someone more interesting ๐Ÿ˜… #Mutables ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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We just broke up last night. ๐Ÿ˜ญ

I don't know how to breakup, for us even tho we are in our 30s,this is our first real relationship.

In some point I just like, great, I can find someone better, better sex atleast (venus in scorpio just make him horney boy,but his virgo placements make him so dull), but I dunno if I can find someone who can treat me gentle and better, like he would do anything for me ๐Ÿ˜”.

We are separating in good term. He will drive me home tonight. He want to get in touch (that in somepoint he just not sure that he doesn't want me).

What should I do? Actually I want to do no contact rules after break up, so he know what it means loosing me. I know he will always messages me, and if I Ignore him, maybe he will just try to ask me something so I must answer him, like : where you put X at? Or about his money (I managing his crypto, and now is not the right time to sell it) ๐Ÿ˜

Please tell me more ur post break up experiences

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5 Years

Posted by cake

Posted by gendut

Posted by cake

Yet here we all are, never missing an opportunity to take the earth sign express train ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜ญ.

Stay strong ladies ๐Ÿ’ช

Thank you ๐Ÿ˜‰

My life sucks, that I think I found a stable steady family man ๐Ÿ˜ช๐Ÿ˜ซ

Personally, only a few men out there will reciprocate the same level of loyalty I give them.

I expect myself to be in a long term relationship in my 50s. Why settle now when everyone wants to get the most experience in their life journey.

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I dunno about same level of loyalty. My bar is very low, I just want someone who understands basic mean of Relationship and Exclusivity.

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Posted by gendut

Posted by virgoOPPP

i have a super secret crush on a virgo sun/scorpio venus but even i know not to trust that combo.

he sounds like typical earth sign man hoe.

Noooo... I really think earth sign the most faithfull one ๐Ÿ˜ญ I'm in love with him, he did too, but now we are in very bumpy ride.

His virgo now trying to push me away again. He said he cannot trust himself and might looking for another chick, then it hurt me and we will arguing like crazy again.

I know at this time, he just trying to push me away with his indecisiveness,but I also know he want also perhaps making his way, so when it's happened, he will just said I told you before.

My pisces sun rising and venus just can't leave him, and still trying to "win" him back.

How does your Pisces Venus manifest in love? I am very interested in hearing about other Pisces Venus experiences, as I myself am one, and it really makes life difficult. I've been a "Sorrows of young Werther" in love since my teenage years. Bummer

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Goethe had a Pisces moon, Scorpio rising, Pluto and Scorpio dom

~All that water

~All that emotion

๐Ÿ˜ญ

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Posted by MyStarsShine

Posted by GenericUsername

Posted by gendut

Posted by virgoOPPP

i have a super secret crush on a virgo sun/scorpio venus but even i know not to trust that combo.

he sounds like typical earth sign man hoe.

Noooo... I really think earth sign the most faithfull one ๐Ÿ˜ญ I'm in love with him, he did too, but now we are in very bumpy ride.

His virgo now trying to push me away again. He said he cannot trust himself and might looking for another chick, then it hurt me and we will arguing like crazy again.

I know at this time, he just trying to push me away with his indecisiveness,but I also know he want also perhaps making his way, so when it's happened, he will just said I told you before.

My pisces sun rising and venus just can't leave him, and still trying to "win" him back.

How does your Pisces Venus manifest in love? I am very interested in hearing about other Pisces Venus experiences, as I myself am one, and it really makes life difficult. I've been a "Sorrows of young Werther" in love since my teenage years. Bummer

Goethe had a Pisces moon, Scorpio rising, Pluto and Scorpio dom

~All that water

~All that emotion

๐Ÿ˜ญ

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you can feel the emotions in his work

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Posted by GenericUsername

Posted by MyStarsShine

Posted by GenericUsername

Posted by gendut

Posted by virgoOPPP

i have a super secret crush on a virgo sun/scorpio venus but even i know not to trust that combo.

he sounds like typical earth sign man hoe.

Noooo... I really think earth sign the most faithfull one ๐Ÿ˜ญ I'm in love with him, he did too, but now we are in very bumpy ride.

His virgo now trying to push me away again. He said he cannot trust himself and might looking for another chick, then it hurt me and we will arguing like crazy again.

I know at this time, he just trying to push me away with his indecisiveness,but I also know he want also perhaps making his way, so when it's happened, he will just said I told you before.

My pisces sun rising and venus just can't leave him, and still trying to "win" him back.

How does your Pisces Venus manifest in love? I am very interested in hearing about other Pisces Venus experiences, as I myself am one, and it really makes life difficult. I've been a "Sorrows of young Werther" in love since my teenage years. Bummer

Goethe had a Pisces moon, Scorpio rising, Pluto and Scorpio dom

~All that water

~All that emotion

๐Ÿ˜ญ

you can feel the emotions in his work

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I can imagine

Sent for the book you referenced

Thanks

Have you read much of his work?

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Posted by MyStarsShine

Posted by GenericUsername

Posted by MyStarsShine

Posted by GenericUsername

Posted by gendut

Posted by virgoOPPP

i have a super secret crush on a virgo sun/scorpio venus but even i know not to trust that combo.

he sounds like typical earth sign man hoe.

Noooo... I really think earth sign the most faithfull one ๐Ÿ˜ญ I'm in love with him, he did too, but now we are in very bumpy ride.

His virgo now trying to push me away again. He said he cannot trust himself and might looking for another chick, then it hurt me and we will arguing like crazy again.

I know at this time, he just trying to push me away with his indecisiveness,but I also know he want also perhaps making his way, so when it's happened, he will just said I told you before.

My pisces sun rising and venus just can't leave him, and still trying to "win" him back.

How does your Pisces Venus manifest in love? I am very interested in hearing about other Pisces Venus experiences, as I myself am one, and it really makes life difficult. I've been a "Sorrows of young Werther" in love since my teenage years. Bummer

Goethe had a Pisces moon, Scorpio rising, Pluto and Scorpio dom

~All that water

~All that emotion

๐Ÿ˜ญ

you can feel the emotions in his work

I can imagine

Sent for the book you referenced

Thanks

Have you read much of his work?

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only Faust and Sorrows of young Werther