what do you do? (Page 2)

This topic was created in the Virgo forum by Qbone on Thursday, December 14, 2006 and has 121 replies.

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@Gaurav_Aries
19 Years5,000+ Posts

"Do you really think that I am going to forgiver you when kill my kids..?? and making peace with you..??"

Rhetoric will do no good. Only an evolved sould is entitled to preach.

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@Gaurav_Aries
19 Years5,000+ Posts

"The problem is easy... Your kid is dead by foreign forces? how do you deal with it..??"

Not easy Qbone...for sure. I know how most of us would react.

This is actually very complex....spiralling. And I agree...prosperity brings arrogance and arrogance brings sin.

But I would love to agree with what Suvant has to say. A Greater thing to do would be to foster peace and opulence for Ur countrymen so that no other loses his child.

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@Qbone
21 Years10,000+ PostsVirgo

?But I would love to agree with what Suvant has to say. A Greater thing to do?

What greater things to do when my kids/family are dead..? when I lost everything I worked for so hard..??

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@Qbone
21 Years10,000+ PostsVirgo

30 years ago I lost my love of life for the conflict you assholes created.. it wasn't my fault.. it wasn't her fault but she had to die?

Me still suffering 30 years later? will I forgive you..—

Never?. till I die.. don't judge me for it.. it is my own choice? but to hell with you that causing the problem..!

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@Eaglegirl
19 Years500+ Posts

Qbone,

I'm going to "respond" because you asked me to, and I've always thought your posts showed the spirit of a thoughtful and intelligent man.

LOL. I knew that mentioning Israel would open a can of worms.

Frankly, I've never believed in political debate. I've always thought it an excuse to let off emotional steam...

In other words, we pretend to be objective, but we never can be. Quantam physics has proved this...there is no "out there reality" without the consciousness that observes this.

Having said this, why do you ask such a question?

We all know deep in our hearts that any kind of violence is wrong...

Even a war of words...

Peace,

Eaglegirl

P.S. I met a lovely Palestinian woman at preschool whose son plays with my daughter. We all look the same...watching our kids on the swings.

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@Qbone
21 Years10,000+ PostsVirgo

Eaglegirl

Thank you for you time to answer..! I am not Palestinian... not Arab... not even Muslims... All I wanted to know was that what you would do when you are forced to live in rut by other nations..!

I have lot of friends (Jews) so I don't have problem with the Jews...

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@Qbone
21 Years10,000+ PostsVirgo

having said this, why do you ask such a question?

Why— 60 years of wars is not a simple question to ignore..! My work related stuff is in Middle East... my best friends are from Palestine...!

And they've lost their families? I can not see the smile of happiness in their faces no mater how successful they are in their lives..!

Why am I asking these questions..??

Think about it please..!!

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@haffo
21 Years5,000+ Posts

Hey Qbone

Now I know about your familiy, I take back all my words about them.

I agree with your position. There is a BIG injustice from your part.

You see, when people hunger for money and power, like the USA, they will crush less stronger countries like Afghanistan, Iraq and in future Siria and Iran to replenish their power and money. After all, they are BROUGHT there for that. Their politicians work for the pocket of those money hungry corporations.

Iran knows that. And wants to defend itself, through nuclear bomb, because nuclear bomb is guarant of peace in todays world.

Israel is peon of USA. USA simply uses Isarel as long range outpost to deploy it's plans. Israel there is not for some 'injustice' made against jews.

As long as we will longer for money, we will never have peace (constant wars) and will destroy our planet (global warming).

Why do we have to come to this point? Because world is full of idiots like USA and Russia who fight for power not peace.

You cant survive in the world of wars without a defence. This is what Iran wants, a guarant for peace an ultimate defence.

USA simply wants Iran to see disarmed, because next country to conquer is Iran (because of petroleum of there).

Everyone knows that fact. And just because USA went to Iraq before any kind of approval from United Nations, this shows that USA has no sense of justice in international arena at all.

Surely USA calls this as a fight against terrorism. But who creates that terrorism? Surely USA itself. It's a war machine that eats both American people money, and other nations money by selling them weapons and getting their money.

The world is built on money.

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@Qbone
21 Years10,000+ PostsVirgo

? palestinians were fine before intefernce of one egyptian terrorist?

Now Egyptian are terrorist too..??.
You idiot? first of all read the history.. then open your filthy mouth and barfing like a dog..!

What you've said is barfing to me? not the human voice?

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@Qbone
21 Years10,000+ PostsVirgo

with a very little dick
You've measured it..?? perhaps your vagina is too wide as a jet liner hangars that 10000 elephant dicks couldn't fill it?...!!

Shut the hell up asshole? how many times do I have to say that..??

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@Qbone
21 Years10,000+ PostsVirgo

YOU SEEM TO HAVE A SPECIAL ABILITY TO PISS PEOPLE OFF.
YOU MAKE ME WANT TO GO OFF ON YOU! YOU ARE THE MOST
ANNOYING SON OF A BITCH I HAVE EVER SEEN.

Are you pissed off..?? I thought you had some tolerance idiot?! Tell me how many elephants you need to fill your vagina with..?? as an apology to make it up with you!!

Thanks for the compliment as (THE MOST ANNOYING SON OF A BITCH I HAVE EVER SEEN.)

Gee wow? I didn't know that?THANKS ASSHOLE?!!

by the way... you dont need google the name of Arafat....! sure he was more important than you are or ever dream to be..!!
!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasser_Arafat

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@Qbone
21 Years10,000+ PostsVirgo

What do you do when you loose your pride, job, dignity, securities, love, home, belonging, and family members by force..?

Answer: Commit Suicide.

thanks for your answer...

now.. the question is.. will you..??

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@Qbone
21 Years10,000+ PostsVirgo

I mean when you guys in west talking about or criticizing the subside bombers... Ever occurred to you that they have their own reasons?!?

I am not justify their actions? I am trying to explain?!

Now.. you come up with suicide suggestions..! (I feel the sarcasm)?

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@P-Angel
21 Years25,000+ PostsPisces

Q, quality of life is what's important to me. If I lost everything, then what is there to live for? Second, it is my understanding (which isn't as vast as yours on the subject) that to these suicide bombers, they thought that this is what God would ask of them? They thought that this would take them to Heaven . . so, if this is true, then they thought they were being true. Who here on earth is worthy enough to dictate to another whether their efforts are God-approved, or not?

Personally, I have no feelings one way, or the other about these bombers, themselves. The only ones I care about are the innocents . . all innocent people, no matter their religious beliefs or their patronage.

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@P-Angel
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"now.. the question is.. will you..??"

Death is not something I fear. To commit suicide is not something that would frighten me. Normally, I don't give up so easily and would likely look at other ways to rise above my failures, misfortunes, or in this case . . defy the ones who hurt me.

If I truly believed that my purpose was to die for a cause . . then, yes, I would do it.

Would you?

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@P-Angel
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I do find it curious, though, as to why you would wait 30 years before deciding that to get revenge is the right choice? 30 years is a long time. Why now?

Why you would seek it . . I understand . . but, the timing seems wrong. Shouldn't this have been something you wanted 30 years ago?

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@Qbone
21 Years10,000+ PostsVirgo

If I truly believed that my purpose was to die for a cause . . then, yes, I would do it.

That will bring another question..!

To die is everyone's destiny.. be it in bed or in war.. or accidents..!

If my beloved get killed in car accidents then I can forget it? but if some soldiers kill my kids I cant forgive or forget?!

The results of this are DEATH?!

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@Qbone
21 Years10,000+ PostsVirgo

Call it my inability?

30 years ago the same guy tapping on Saddam shoulders as friend delivered that rocket to his arsenal, which killed my beloved by bombing the city we lived in!

the guy in rght is saddam....!

I am not try to bring up my personal life adversities around here?. What I want to show is how the other people life standards will affect the destiny of other people that try to live in peace..!!

In this case.. American relationship with the world..!

Is your beloved life, worth than mine..?? ? simple question!

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@Gaurav_Aries
19 Years5,000+ Posts

"The results of this are DEATH?!"

Qbone ...How many have U killed...personally ?

And if U really really have any sympathy for suicide bombers - U shud remain quiet.

As eaglegirl said - therez no justification for violence, neither Israeli action nor Palestinian retaliation. At the most, U can explain violence but cant condone it.

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@Qbone
21 Years10,000+ PostsVirgo

Question is? how come that bastard shaking hand with the asshole the accusing him then destroying his country..??

Logic of this..??

665,000 death..?? in 3 damn years..??

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@P-Angel
21 Years25,000+ PostsPisces

This is true . . it really doesn't matter HOW we die . .

To forget about a car crash, yet, seek revenge for a murder . . is really just your personal feelings and has nothing to do with the death itself, for we all die, like you said.

I think the problem is that most people fear death and so they have reactions to their loved-ones dying, that causes remorse, revenge, unmanageable grief and sometimes, a pain that lasts decades, such as your pain. Death is immenant . . we will all go there to whatever other existance is waiting for us . . how we get there isn't important. What's important is that we get there as pure and true as we can.

If death isn't feared . . if it's something we want to have . . then, most of our world problems would end. We wouldn't have to fight to stay alive.

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@P-Angel
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And that's all it is . . we fight to stay alive.

But, we all die . . so, it really doesn't matter by what means, by who's hand. We can point fingers at others until we turn blue in the face . . but, in the end . . we all die, anyway.

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@P-Angel
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GA, I really don't see what difference it makes on this plane of existance.

People think that they are born here and their goal is to find spirituality to make them worthy of something. I believe that we are already spirits, this is just our souls having a physical experience . . so, death from our flesh means nothing.

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@Gaurav_Aries
19 Years5,000+ Posts

"so, death from our flesh means nothing."

which is liberation from this body form...fair enuf.

But there are duties to be performed while U live ...And inaction will lead to chaos.
Hence strive ...without attachment of course.

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@P-Angel
21 Years25,000+ PostsPisces

Our fueds with each other, which have been going on since the beginning of time, is because we want to survive, we want to live in the flesh . . so, naturally, we would fear death and would do anything to keep living another day.

Why?

We don't fight to die . . we fight to live.

Sounds absurd.

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@Gaurav_Aries
19 Years5,000+ Posts

Not so simple...While living in flesh we want to arrogate power unto ourselves and yearn to generate riches. Life is a bubble indeed...But not so fleeting either.

Itz exactly not for living sake that we scheme to destroy each other, but we mutate our fears and insecurities/ignorance into aggression.

How many times in a week/month U think of death ?...Itz not death which we explicitly fear. Itz survival over some horizon which spurs us on.

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@Qbone
21 Years10,000+ PostsVirgo

You barfing again Savant?. Your false tooth falling out?! Hold your moth bitch?!

GAD?. I've killed one sparrow when I was 12 years old with an air gun? and I still have bad feeling about it!

But I was in military for nearly 4 years without killing someone or something. As pilot and parachute soldier later on

And I have sympathy for SB?because I know what they do? what I don't understand is accusations and misjudgements of others?

That why I asking?!!

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@Gaurav_Aries
19 Years5,000+ Posts

If U give it a deep thought ...suicide bombers can be of two types basically-
Those who have lost loved ones and want revenge.
Others who are just brainwashed in the name of religion...Radicals.
( Am sure am trying to simplifying things)

For the former league , I can understand to an extent what their motivations wud be.

For the latter, itz them who are actually defaming Ur religion. And they aint soldiers..They do it for cheap publicity. ( I would term it that)