what do you do? (Page 3)

Defaming the religion because they want to blow themselves UP...??

You are judging GA?!

Any human would love to live in peace no matter their culture/religion or what ever...!

They love to live? unless some external forces take away what they have or work for in life time?!

Tell me? when you get older say at the age of 50 and lose everything you gathered so far by (force)? how can you rebuild things you had..??

Do you have time for it..?? I am just talking about material things? not the beloved ones..!!

I can see both sides of this Q.

The pain that is felt because innocent people have to die for someone elses greed for power, or whatever the reasoning.

Then, the side of the bombers . . they believe that this is all that is left of them to do.

There's no way to know for sure WHY these people have done what they did. We can only speculate. Maybe they do feel that everything in their life has been ripped away from them and there is no reason to live any longer, or, maybe it's like GA said, they have just been brain-washed.

We don't know for sure, do we?

"they want to blow themselves UP...?"

Again ..not as simple.

Blowing up leads to killing of many on the spot (innocent lives)...and generates fear which spreads fast and lingers on for generations. This fear leads to mistrust which creates a schism between communities. Of course it also forces these issues to come out in open and moulds public opinion against violence of any kind and from any quarter.
Unfortunatelly , moderate and sane voices get subdued in the long run and the "hawks"
derive maximum mileage out of this.

When I judged that , I considered that in isolation. Of course there are causes and there are effects. And I agree that the powerful initiate this viscious cycle.

My opinion is - Acknowledge and Admit that U r weak and U have allowed others to maul U.
Work on that aspect rather than killing Urself so that others dont go down in the same fashion. Killing will have only a palliative effect.

Of Course the kind of loss U mentioned is so huge that one may be forced to kill.

Again.. tell me?..

Historically... Palestine were occupied by the British then given away to Jews, same as Iraq history? same as Pakistan and India—?. given away?!!

How can you judge their actions to defend their mother lands..??

National pride..?? patriotism?.?? Sense of identity?!!

Ring a bell..??

Is that good for the Americans but not good for the rest of the world..??

And....

My opinion is - Acknowledge and Admit that U r weak and U have allowed others to maul U.

my opinion is.. you know nothing.. start reading? It'll help?

"Historically... Palestine were occupied by the British then given away to Jews, same as Iraq history? same as Pakistan and India—?. given away?!"

Dear Qbone ...Any occupying force will feed on what ?....Our weakness.
If the britishers went for that sort of dispensation , they had the might to do that.
Why did we accept it at that time ?

Even Islam forced itz way forward across many geographies. Do we go back in time and retaliate ?

My belief is that itz not my right to cry hoarse over what has been meted out to me...My task is to prepare for a battle which I will never lose.

"my opinion is.. you know nothing.. start reading? It'll help"

Of course it will...But more efficient it will be for U to furnish cogent facts.

I'm not real clear on why it bothers you if people are judgeing the bombers?

What difference does it make to you? If one person makes an opinion on a complete stranger . . who the hell cares?

Why are you taking a personal stance on this?

Ohhh

You are talking about facts..??

What is facts to you..??

"National pride..?? patriotism?.?? Sense of identity?!"

What pride ?

Corruption ?...Nepotism ?...Radicalism ?....Regionalism ?....Ethnic Loyalties ?

Am aware of my real pride and value system. But am not ready to close my eyes on our inefficiencies and inadequacies. The defeat and oppression which U see here is "systemic" and not "cultural".

Give such kind of power and leverage to any group , community ...and take it away from others- ...results would be same.

The endevor is to avoid falling into that trap ...U cant eradicate world famine..U just can try.

Therez no "new world order" and "world peace" is utopia.

People will continue killing each other. Do Ur job of optimizing, and dont dream of maximizing.

YES...YOU HAVE TIME. WHAT DO YOU NEED? ...I CAN LIVE WITH NEXT TO NOTHING AND SOMETIMESI THINK ITS BETTER TO LIVE SIMPLE.

Because you are NOTHING?!!

We are talking about HUMANS?. Not the talking head with hangar size vagina..!!

Therez no "new world order" and "world peace" is utopia.

of course there is new world order? but there is not about peace..! it is Jungle rules? first man in power get it all..

In the middle? innocent people get die because of their recourses?!

Again you are Indian right..??

Read Arundhati Roy excellent writing about Dam project in India, it will help you to understand what I mean? if you are interested anyway?

"Read Arundhati Roy excellent writing about Dam project in India, it will help you to understand what I mean? if you are interested anyway "

She writes for those who for specific reasons cant access such information. I know what that project is about and the politics around it. And I understand U have reading related interests but thatz not quite the point. Plus, I have read so much and so many that I find it tough to subscribe to any one view. And itz unhealthy and detrimental too to base Ur views about alien subject on just one piece of writng.

"first man in power get it all..

In the middle? innocent people get die because of their recourses?!"

It was there for thousand of years ...went unchallenged.
Now inexorably the system is moving toward assimilation and acceptance. With so many cultures spiralling close, sparks are bound to fly due to attrition. Perhaps U r expecting too much too soon.

What do U presume ...Americans are under no pressure when the whole world is seething ?
They are visibly nervous and after a long time they would be going for a rethink. Of course it will take years to dislodge such mammoth EGO.

Meanwhile...Can U please shed some light on Islamic radicalism ? Am sure nobody will buy this argument that all they do is to react. They are having lotsa rot in the system as well.

Suvant?.

I told you that hold you filthy mouth? do you want anyone notice your false teeth..??

By now any one knows about your vagina size? have some respect to yourself idiot?!

And yes...I find it cheeky when people drop clues like arundhati roy's work etc.

I U have read the subject closely and comprehended it fully , U shud be in a position to come forth with brief yet powerful explanations.

GA...

Read it and don't disregard her as cheeky...!

Remember the Gandhi... And how he was treated..!

"Read it and don't disregard her as cheeky..."

Roy is not cheeky ...I said itz cheeky to refer to such works in this forum.
In stead of that U shud present the gist for the benefit of all.

Roy is not cheeky ...I said itz cheeky to refer to such works in this forum.

Of course this forum dose not deserves her works? my apologise? just wanted to give you some attention that you are not talking with idiot?

Justice or Fear?

What defined our world today?

I would say fear. Fear is source of justice. Justice is nothing without fear.

If a country has no fear of attacking country, there would be no justice.

Even USA is acting on revenge.

2000 people were died on World Towers and that costed about million of Iraqis today.

USA calls it war with terrorism. I call it revenge.

Why Iraqis can't have a revenge?

Why justice is one sided?

Why those people who blame suiciders do not blame their own goverment who is actually taking revenge?

Isn't it same?

Then why double standart for people?

Are Americans, British or anyone else in that league are more people than the rest?

Seems to be so. Then why Iran shouldnt have means to cause fear in others?

Why?