Mars.In.Aries
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As far as me behaving immaturely, I fail to see it. Hard headed, absolutely!!! Fool-hardy, that's pushing it, but I'll agree. Immature, no. If I bugged him, pestering him to take me home or to leave, then that would of been immature. I could of been angry and upset because of his behavior, but instead, I took a step back and created the space so I wouldn't get angry and he wouldn't get upset. Yes, I should of told him I was leaving, but then he should of been a gentleman about the situation when I said I was ready to go.
That's not throwing a silent temper tantrum. That's turning the tables so that he could realize how his actions affected the outcome. In return, he turned the tables and showed how my actions affected the outcome. If I were throwing a silent temper tantrum, I simple wouldn't of answered his phone call. That's what I would of done 3 years ago.
That's not throwing a silent temper tantrum. That's turning the tables so that he could realize how his actions affected the outcome. In return, he turned the tables and showed how my actions affected the outcome. If I were throwing a silent temper tantrum, I simple wouldn't of answered his phone call. That's what I would of done 3 years ago.
Posted by Mars.In.Aries
Now I do...... sometimes it's better that way, but I've been told you can still see that I'm pissed or that something upsets me. I've been told NOT to bottle things up and express myself. It's a catch 22 situation.
How very interesting.
I find that Virgos go back and forth.... when they want to be forth coming, they are. When they want to be passive, they are. A little aggression won't kill your cool, calm, collective exterior!!!! Rough house a bit!! It can be fun!!!!click to expand
My Mars is in Aries... 🙂
How very interesting.
How so—?
My Mars is in Aries... 🙂click to expand
Now THAT is very interesting...... A Virgo with mars in aries.
Is there a site to find out someone's chart? I;m kind of intrigued to find out my virgo guy's chart.....
Posted by Mars.In.Aries
How very interesting.
How so—?
My Mars is in Aries... 🙂
Now THAT is very interesting...... A Virgo with mars in aries.
Is there a site to find out someone's chart? I;m kind of intrigued to find out my virgo guy's chart.....click to expand
here u go http://astro.cafeastrology.com/..
excuses excuses....I don't enjoy communicating with you, I feel like i'm walking through a mine field....do your thing as long as it works for you, it seems our opinions mean little to nothing, you are staunch on not seeing yourself through others eyes, you clearly have some emotional issues that your compensating for by being over bearing and difficult, i'm sure you have your reasons, not sure why you post when you clearly don't need anyones help or opinions.
Posted by Mars.In.Aries
How so—?
Sounds like a Virgo trait, to bottle up feelings. Especially anger.
The traits I can immediately identify for Mars in Aries are I hate waiting and move very quickly in establishing relationships.
Check out CafeAstrology like virgking suggested.
Tiki.....You're right that you're walking through a mine field. You haven't been honest with your attempts, nor your intentions. My post to you was intelligent, self-assured, logical, reasonable, and explained things that you were missing out on. I have admitted where my faults are, but you want to keep on blowing the trumpet that I'm immature. That's your only argument, and it's not even a conclusive one. It's a hypothesis at best, but because I don't fit into your formula, all of a sudden I'm difficult and over bearing.
I'm real and upfront, something that a majority of people in this day and age don't value. Fake recognizes fake. Real recognizes both fake and real.....
Yes, I am difficult. Yes, I have my reasons. I'm many things, all rolled into one.
If you don't enjoy conversating with me, then don't answer to my posts. It's as simple as that. There's someone on the boards that I can't tolerate, and guess what?!?!?! I don't respond to her threads, and when she posts in my threads, I ignore them!!!!
You claim that I'm immature, but your post here really seems like you're calling a kettle a pot in the end. You lectured me rather than reasoned what the circumstances were. You jumped to conclusions, and when I pointed out that you weren't 100 % right, you jumped on the defense. You claim that I'm compensating for something, but then I question your motives here..... why are you taking it too personally?
I'm protective of myself...... and my spidey sense goes off about you.
I'm real and upfront, something that a majority of people in this day and age don't value. Fake recognizes fake. Real recognizes both fake and real.....
Yes, I am difficult. Yes, I have my reasons. I'm many things, all rolled into one.
If you don't enjoy conversating with me, then don't answer to my posts. It's as simple as that. There's someone on the boards that I can't tolerate, and guess what?!?!?! I don't respond to her threads, and when she posts in my threads, I ignore them!!!!
You claim that I'm immature, but your post here really seems like you're calling a kettle a pot in the end. You lectured me rather than reasoned what the circumstances were. You jumped to conclusions, and when I pointed out that you weren't 100 % right, you jumped on the defense. You claim that I'm compensating for something, but then I question your motives here..... why are you taking it too personally?
I'm protective of myself...... and my spidey sense goes off about you.
here u go http://astro.cafeastrology.com/..
Mucho Gracias......... I was able to look up my chart too!!!
Sounds like a Virgo trait, to bottle up feelings. Especially anger.
The traits I can immediately identify for Mars in Aries are I hate waiting and move very quickly in establishing relationships.
Check out CafeAstrology like virgking suggested.
Here is my natal chart....
Sun Aries
Moon Capricorn
Mercury Aries
Venus Taurus
Mars Aries
Jupiter Sagittarius
Saturn Scorpio
Uranus Sagittarius
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Libra
Lilith Aquarius
Asc node Gemini
It says that my ascending is in Virgo.... That's the only virgo influence I have. I'm not too sure how to read this chart.
Cajun,
As per my anger, growing up, I bottled a lot of my emotions in. A lot was going around me, and the begining parts of my life were very confusing and complicated. My anger and temper was due to me not understanding what was going on around me. It was my form of communicating that something wasn't right, and I would blow up all the time. My mom told me that she was scared of me, even at 3 years old.
Growing up, any issue that occurred was always blamed on my anger. A lot of things were over looked because of that short sightness. Some things were just plain neglect, but was overshadowed by my angry ways. Something unjustified would of happened to me, but because I responded with anger, I then got punished. But the initial reason why I got angry never was punished, so I felt a lot of things were unfair.
Anger masks a lot of things..... and it def. was a mask that I wore for a very long time. Most of the times I didn't even feel human. I was def. the silent but violent type. Even though I have gone through treatment to ease my anger, and I know how to avoid situations that will get me angry, I really don't believe that that type of rage even can be tamed. There are constant triggers, and I still get mad, but rather than acting out on it, I turn silent. I've been told my silence still holds the same energy as my rage.
I don't want it to be like that... I want to be easy going, free-spirited, and roll with the punches. But the fact of the matter is, I do constantly have to be aware of my surroundings because it could lead me into trouble. It's like being a recovering drug addict. You can't surround yourself with that environment, because it exposes you to those predispositions that make you angry. You are a product of your environment, but sometimes removing yourself from that environment removes that stimulus.
Just writing this up tightens my chest and brings tears to my eyes. From your other post in the temper thread, I totally understand what you mean. Have you sought professional help about your anger? Do you know where it stems from? Yes, it's a Virgo trait, but it's also an element trait too. Something had to keep encouraging your fury, fanning those flames.
As per my anger, growing up, I bottled a lot of my emotions in. A lot was going around me, and the begining parts of my life were very confusing and complicated. My anger and temper was due to me not understanding what was going on around me. It was my form of communicating that something wasn't right, and I would blow up all the time. My mom told me that she was scared of me, even at 3 years old.
Growing up, any issue that occurred was always blamed on my anger. A lot of things were over looked because of that short sightness. Some things were just plain neglect, but was overshadowed by my angry ways. Something unjustified would of happened to me, but because I responded with anger, I then got punished. But the initial reason why I got angry never was punished, so I felt a lot of things were unfair.
Anger masks a lot of things..... and it def. was a mask that I wore for a very long time. Most of the times I didn't even feel human. I was def. the silent but violent type. Even though I have gone through treatment to ease my anger, and I know how to avoid situations that will get me angry, I really don't believe that that type of rage even can be tamed. There are constant triggers, and I still get mad, but rather than acting out on it, I turn silent. I've been told my silence still holds the same energy as my rage.
I don't want it to be like that... I want to be easy going, free-spirited, and roll with the punches. But the fact of the matter is, I do constantly have to be aware of my surroundings because it could lead me into trouble. It's like being a recovering drug addict. You can't surround yourself with that environment, because it exposes you to those predispositions that make you angry. You are a product of your environment, but sometimes removing yourself from that environment removes that stimulus.
Just writing this up tightens my chest and brings tears to my eyes. From your other post in the temper thread, I totally understand what you mean. Have you sought professional help about your anger? Do you know where it stems from? Yes, it's a Virgo trait, but it's also an element trait too. Something had to keep encouraging your fury, fanning those flames.
for once, i agree with ian. 😛
MIA i'm not the only one that has pointed out your immature actions during this post, I apologize if you were offended by my statements, I definitely don't enjoy communicating with you, will I stop communicatig with you most likely, not sure yet but for the most part I have no problem with you or anyone else disagreeing with my post and that should go both ways.
Hi kaleidescorp??_??_.
Thanks for your thought provoking comment. While it is an aries trait to act brash, I really don't think this fits this situation. I say this for many reasons, the biggest being that on my end, it never was intended as a —fuck you?? or —go fuck yourself??. It legitimately was a case where we were in a packed out bar, I had reached my limit for the night, I had enjoyed our friends, I had to work, and at that point I had to figure a way home. I called a cab, but because it was a holiday, there was over an hour wait. Part of the benefit of living in a college town, I can walk to many areas around town. While I understand the issue of safety, I would of never placed myself in a dangerous situation.
If you see it as immature that I left, then I'm immature. What can I say? I feel differently about it, and I think that I handled it just fine. Everything from accepting and understanding that he wanted to keep partying , to leaving, and then to stopping and waiting on him when he called. It wasn't a case where we were upset with each other or anything like that. It was a situation where I didn't want to be a burden on his plans, but that I still had the burdens of my responsibilities that was my issue. And obviously he wasn't factoring that in, but rather than get pissed about it, I did what I had to do in order to get home. There's no drama or immaturity, I simple did what had to be done. And sometimes that means taking matters into your own hands to get a solid result.
In the end, it worked out the way it ought to have. We ended going home together, I went to work, and everything has been peachy. I told him that night that I trust him more than I trust a lot of people. His response was that I should trust him. I explained that part of that trust is honoring arrangements made together, so that something like that doesn't happen. Nobody likes feeling like the Debbie downer of a good time, and nobody likes being left out in the dark when someone is leaving. The inconsiderations were on both sides, but the intentions were honest from both sides, and that came clear in the end.
If I truly wanted to be pig-headed about the situation, then I wouldn't of answered his call, causing a spin-off situation. If he truly wanted to be inconsiderate about me as a partner, then he wouldn't of bothered coming to get me, causing a spin-off situation. Instead, we both dealt with the situation at hand, and corrected it rig
Thanks for your thought provoking comment. While it is an aries trait to act brash, I really don't think this fits this situation. I say this for many reasons, the biggest being that on my end, it never was intended as a —fuck you?? or —go fuck yourself??. It legitimately was a case where we were in a packed out bar, I had reached my limit for the night, I had enjoyed our friends, I had to work, and at that point I had to figure a way home. I called a cab, but because it was a holiday, there was over an hour wait. Part of the benefit of living in a college town, I can walk to many areas around town. While I understand the issue of safety, I would of never placed myself in a dangerous situation.
If you see it as immature that I left, then I'm immature. What can I say? I feel differently about it, and I think that I handled it just fine. Everything from accepting and understanding that he wanted to keep partying , to leaving, and then to stopping and waiting on him when he called. It wasn't a case where we were upset with each other or anything like that. It was a situation where I didn't want to be a burden on his plans, but that I still had the burdens of my responsibilities that was my issue. And obviously he wasn't factoring that in, but rather than get pissed about it, I did what I had to do in order to get home. There's no drama or immaturity, I simple did what had to be done. And sometimes that means taking matters into your own hands to get a solid result.
In the end, it worked out the way it ought to have. We ended going home together, I went to work, and everything has been peachy. I told him that night that I trust him more than I trust a lot of people. His response was that I should trust him. I explained that part of that trust is honoring arrangements made together, so that something like that doesn't happen. Nobody likes feeling like the Debbie downer of a good time, and nobody likes being left out in the dark when someone is leaving. The inconsiderations were on both sides, but the intentions were honest from both sides, and that came clear in the end.
If I truly wanted to be pig-headed about the situation, then I wouldn't of answered his call, causing a spin-off situation. If he truly wanted to be inconsiderate about me as a partner, then he wouldn't of bothered coming to get me, causing a spin-off situation. Instead, we both dealt with the situation at hand, and corrected it rig
Posted by Mars.In.Aries
Here is my natal chart....
Sun Aries
Moon Capricorn
Mercury Aries
Venus Taurus
Mars Aries
Jupiter Sagittarius
Saturn Scorpio
Uranus Sagittarius
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Libra
Lilith Aquarius
Asc node Gemini
It says that my ascending is in Virgo.... That's the only virgo influence I have. I'm not too sure how to read this chart.
Ooooo... looks like you're one hell of a lover. Very romantic with strong and deep emotions.
Have a read for understanding.
Cajun,
As per my anger, growing up, I bottled a lot of my emotions in. A lot was going around me, and the begining parts of my life were very confusing and complicated. My anger and temper was due to me not understanding what was going on around me. It was my form of communicating that something wasn't right, and I would blow up all the time. My mom told me that she was scared of me, even at 3 years old.
How very curious. I was angry for similar reasons.
I suppose we could attribute this to your Mercury in Aries.
Growing up, any issue that occurred was always blamed on my anger. A lot of things were over looked because of that short sightnes. Some things were just plain neglect, but was overshadowed by my angry ways. Something unjustified would of happened to me, but because I responded with anger, I then got punished. But the initial reason why I got angry never was punished, so I felt a lot of things were unfair.click to expand
I share your point of view.
Anger masks a lot of things..... and it def. was a mask that I wore for a very long time. Most of the times I didn't even feel human. I was def. the silent but violent type. Even though I have gone through treatment to ease my anger, and I know how to avoid situations that will get me angry, I really don't believe that that type of rage even can be tamed. There are constant triggers, and I still get mad, but rather than acting out on it, I turn silent. I've been told my silence still holds the same energy as my rage.
I don't want it to be like that... I want to be easy going, free-spirited, and roll with the punches. But the fact of the matter is, I do constantly have to be aware of my surroundings because it could lead me into trouble. It's like being a recovering drug addict. You can't surround yourself with that environment, because it exposes you to those predispositions that make you angry. You are a product of your environment, but sometimes removing yourself from that environment removes that stimulus.
Just writing this up tightens my chest and brings tears to my eyes. From your other post in the temper thread, I totally understand what you mean. Have you sought professional help about your anger? Do you know where it stems from? Yes, it's a Virgo trait, but it's also an element trait too. Something had to keep encouraging your fury, fanning those flames.
Weird, sounds like we do have a lot in common in this sense.
I was angry because of unfairness.
I saw the rich be rewarded constantly and the poor like myself suffering.
One classic example, was the private primary school (Ages 5-10) I went to. There was this rich kid who decided he would hit me with his lunch kit. So I got mad and hit him back with mine.
The next day we were both called to the principal's office. Shortly thereafter, he was called back and I had to face the corporal punishment by myself. He passed for a prestige school(good) and I ended up in a government run one (bad).
Who knows, maybe it is the Mars in Aries after all. I don't think I need help, thankfully. I don't have outbursts and I'm not as silent anymore. I have my outlets 🙂
Posted by tisair
I notice Aries females have a strong competitive streak and especially during verbal wars...I even know a couple of them at work and both of them love to over talk others when they think they are right about something, yet don't take the time to shut up and think before they speak and/or react. Again, that spells trouble for Aries/Virgo combo, because regardless of his current or former player status, you may soon be perceived as being too much of a challenge and you will find yourself by yourself or even worse, on his backup list.
Listen to others first then fire, because you've already admitted that you've been rude to him..and no telling how often you have 'ignored' key things he's said to you because of your Fire.
I'm all good with them being assertive. It's when they are bullish and won't concede victory, won't back down, wrong and strong, can't see the other point of view. That's when I am thoroughly irked.
Posted by tiki33
MIA i'm not the only one that has pointed out your immature actions during this post, I apologize if you were offended by my statements, I definitely don't enjoy communicating with you, will I stop communicatig with you most likely, not sure yet but for the most part I have no problem with you or anyone else disagreeing with my post and that should go both ways.
Your opinion should be your opinion because you believe in that point of view. You don't validate your opinion because other people share the same opinion as you. You keep insinuating that my actions were immature. They can only be immature if I didn't have a coherent thought process behind my actions. The fact is, I DID have a coherent and logical thought process behind my actions, and that was to get my ass home. If I were immature, I would of thrown a tissy fit, gotten all emotional, and started an argument. None of those things happened. I wanted him to be able to have his good time, and I wanted my ass in bed.
You were vindictive in your posts towards me..... your responses were that I was an over bearing bitch and that one day I would end up alone. You tried to minimize me, marginalize me, and stereotype me. To me, that's not a discussion.....
Coming from someone who has posted messages about females being caught in webs of boy's deceit, I'm really surprised at your double standard here.
If you do choose to continue discussions with me, then you're gonna have to be real and logical. Not defensive and spewing nonsense. Focus on what has actually been written, rather than start making up scenarios because they fit your reasons. You can be intelligent, I've seen you write intelligent stuff, but don't place people in molds, because we're all individuals.
Posted by ?_uvis
can you imagine dating her....
youre doomed before it starts...
What sun sign are you? I've seen you post here and there, and I like what I see 🙂
Tisair,
thanks for the advice. I will admit that I am too independent for my own good.... are far as verbal fire and competition, I've really tried hard to tame them down. It's something that I have worked on. Oh, and you're right about entering into a verbal war with Aries..... we are very good arguers, but that is also something that I've tamed A LOT.
I really do treasure myself as being a good listener. I used to not hear people, mostly due to my anger, I would block them out. Now I do hear out and I have found that I can better express myself in response. I have really entered a peace treaty part of my life where I don't want to battle. It's really exhausting. I don't want to be a burden on my virgo guy.... I really like him, but I do still have a bit of a guard up. I want things to work out, and have that balance. He has key points, but I have key points too..... we need to listen to each other, and not have things be one sided.
thanks for the advice. I will admit that I am too independent for my own good.... are far as verbal fire and competition, I've really tried hard to tame them down. It's something that I have worked on. Oh, and you're right about entering into a verbal war with Aries..... we are very good arguers, but that is also something that I've tamed A LOT.
I really do treasure myself as being a good listener. I used to not hear people, mostly due to my anger, I would block them out. Now I do hear out and I have found that I can better express myself in response. I have really entered a peace treaty part of my life where I don't want to battle. It's really exhausting. I don't want to be a burden on my virgo guy.... I really like him, but I do still have a bit of a guard up. I want things to work out, and have that balance. He has key points, but I have key points too..... we need to listen to each other, and not have things be one sided.
if thats the case maybe u should date a leo or a sag or a aries lol.
my eldest brother is a aries and my next brother girlfriend is a aries as well and i kno lots of them they tend 2 piss me of alot with all that anger and aggression its my leo moon which allows me to deal with them and the other two fire signs because i wouldn't let that shit fly.
The goal in developing a MATURE relationship is a 3 step process ..
1. realize nobody is in power over the other
2. WANT to communicate
3. if 1 & 2 are true, then trust just happens
Thus far, all I see is a power struggle and nothing more, nor a desire to have proper communication ....
"The fact is that I did communicate with him that I wanted to go..... I gave him a 30 min lay-way. He took that time to organize an after party of sorts, rather than organizing what his priority should of been."
What that ^^^^^ means is that you told him you wanted to go, and then sat back and ((((expected)))) him to decide that you are his top priority.
He knows this obviously, because he decided to make you give his attention to something else. Certainly this was intentional, because certainly, he can see as clearly as the rest of us that you think of yourself as a Princess who has subjects beneath her. I guess he thought it in your best interest to knock the throne down to the ground a couple pegs.
In your mind you think it as "priority", because that is the word you used. You haven't realized the very first step in having an adult relatinship. Your intention is to keep a line in the sand clearly visible, so the two of you can remember which side you are on.
When he didn't choose to take your side ...... you weren't priority ....... I'm sure you stomped out, making a scene, regardless of lies you try to say in here ........
...... because it was shortly afterward that he found you walking = you made an exit scene.
..... because if you quietly slipped out, while his attention was ingrossed elsewhere, then he wouldn't have even known to "look" for you walking. He likely would have thought you to be in the bathroom, or have taken a cab.
Nope, he KNEW you were walking, sulking ...... so this is an indicator that you made a scene before leaving. Maybe not yelling and screaming, but, certainly enough of one for him to realize that you dug the line in sand deeper for him to fully acknowledge.
.... them or you .. period.
Sides
1. realize nobody is in power over the other
2. WANT to communicate
3. if 1 & 2 are true, then trust just happens
Thus far, all I see is a power struggle and nothing more, nor a desire to have proper communication ....
"The fact is that I did communicate with him that I wanted to go..... I gave him a 30 min lay-way. He took that time to organize an after party of sorts, rather than organizing what his priority should of been."
What that ^^^^^ means is that you told him you wanted to go, and then sat back and ((((expected)))) him to decide that you are his top priority.
He knows this obviously, because he decided to make you give his attention to something else. Certainly this was intentional, because certainly, he can see as clearly as the rest of us that you think of yourself as a Princess who has subjects beneath her. I guess he thought it in your best interest to knock the throne down to the ground a couple pegs.
In your mind you think it as "priority", because that is the word you used. You haven't realized the very first step in having an adult relatinship. Your intention is to keep a line in the sand clearly visible, so the two of you can remember which side you are on.
When he didn't choose to take your side ...... you weren't priority ....... I'm sure you stomped out, making a scene, regardless of lies you try to say in here ........
...... because it was shortly afterward that he found you walking = you made an exit scene.
..... because if you quietly slipped out, while his attention was ingrossed elsewhere, then he wouldn't have even known to "look" for you walking. He likely would have thought you to be in the bathroom, or have taken a cab.
Nope, he KNEW you were walking, sulking ...... so this is an indicator that you made a scene before leaving. Maybe not yelling and screaming, but, certainly enough of one for him to realize that you dug the line in sand deeper for him to fully acknowledge.
.... them or you .. period.
Sides
"the truth of the matter is that none of those girls can hold a candle next to my flame"
**** evidence that you are so egotistical and concieted, that you measure his regard for you based on how you are above others rather than how a mature woman should want her potential man to meausre her ... which is integrity.
"He has to WANT the two-of-us to be together, and he knows that in order for that to truely to occurr, he HAS to change his ways."
**** so you are saying that he knows he has to changed his ways here, which means you have told him so. I don't see anything in here, though, that indicates your willingness to do any changing. All one-sided .. that Double Standard.
"But he has to want to change it for himself, so that he can gain what he's wanting to gain out of a committed relationship"
**** Really? so, you think that you know what he wants in a commited relatinship? And this wanting, as you know it to be = him having a desire to change himself? So, let me get this straight ..... in order for him to ((gain)) what he needs to be in a successful relationship, this is all contingient upon what YOU decide is the terms of him changing?
"I can give him what he wants, because I understand him as a person."
**** you dont' even understand your own fucking self. for you actually think that being a demanding, non-tolerant, double standard bitch is a woman who is cool and independent and mature. So, if you have absolutely no clear vision of your own self image .. then how the hell can you actually say you understand another human being?
Seriously ... you are so self absorbed that you've no clue about anything outside of yourself.
**** evidence that you are so egotistical and concieted, that you measure his regard for you based on how you are above others rather than how a mature woman should want her potential man to meausre her ... which is integrity.
"He has to WANT the two-of-us to be together, and he knows that in order for that to truely to occurr, he HAS to change his ways."
**** so you are saying that he knows he has to changed his ways here, which means you have told him so. I don't see anything in here, though, that indicates your willingness to do any changing. All one-sided .. that Double Standard.
"But he has to want to change it for himself, so that he can gain what he's wanting to gain out of a committed relationship"
**** Really? so, you think that you know what he wants in a commited relatinship? And this wanting, as you know it to be = him having a desire to change himself? So, let me get this straight ..... in order for him to ((gain)) what he needs to be in a successful relationship, this is all contingient upon what YOU decide is the terms of him changing?
"I can give him what he wants, because I understand him as a person."
**** you dont' even understand your own fucking self. for you actually think that being a demanding, non-tolerant, double standard bitch is a woman who is cool and independent and mature. So, if you have absolutely no clear vision of your own self image .. then how the hell can you actually say you understand another human being?
Seriously ... you are so self absorbed that you've no clue about anything outside of yourself.
"You might as well give up your argument. There is nothing that you can tell me to convince me that I did something wrong."
****** here is evidence in one of your statements where you clearly believe you do not err ... yet, have the audacity to hold him responsible for fixing his ways if he wants you .. which means to you he most certainly errs .. why else would have have to change his ways?
"he got plenty of kisses and then some when we got home. Believe me, he was treated well."
***** the above came after you saying he must have realized that you take priority, for he came to rescue you walking down the street ... so you therefore rewarded him with some pussy.
You would end that thought by saying he was treated well ... when in reality he was treated bad. This whole story of yours is a description of events that identifies an emotionally abusive person.
A person who is emotionally abusive ... always ends each destructive episode with candy. Come to think of it .. so do child molestors.
Keeps them thinking they are special and so endure the abuse.
****** here is evidence in one of your statements where you clearly believe you do not err ... yet, have the audacity to hold him responsible for fixing his ways if he wants you .. which means to you he most certainly errs .. why else would have have to change his ways?
"he got plenty of kisses and then some when we got home. Believe me, he was treated well."
***** the above came after you saying he must have realized that you take priority, for he came to rescue you walking down the street ... so you therefore rewarded him with some pussy.
You would end that thought by saying he was treated well ... when in reality he was treated bad. This whole story of yours is a description of events that identifies an emotionally abusive person.
A person who is emotionally abusive ... always ends each destructive episode with candy. Come to think of it .. so do child molestors.
Keeps them thinking they are special and so endure the abuse.
Comprimise?
You didn't read this, then did you.
She said that if he wants to be obtain his happiness, then he has to change himself to meet her needs .. and then denied any accountibility on her part that she needs to bend to meet him.
You didn't read this, then did you.
She said that if he wants to be obtain his happiness, then he has to change himself to meet her needs .. and then denied any accountibility on her part that she needs to bend to meet him.
Posted by seavixen2Posted by P-Angel
Comprimise?
You didn't read this, then did you.
She said that if he wants to be obtain his happiness, then he has to change himself to meet her needs .. and then denied any accountibility on her part that she needs to bend to meet him.
you caught me P...that must of been one of the many parts where her words just all blurred together in my mind and I had to skip to another part...lol😉click to expand
SeaVixen... I would hope that you are capable of making your own judgements, rather than the secondary judgement of someone else who has completely and utterly misquoted me. If you have read parts of this thread, then you would see that anything that P-Angle said is nonsense..... your post above is more intelligent than a trolling rat. Communication is a key point, and like you said, communicating with each other about our likes and dislikes is what leads to compromise, which we have done. But it's trial and error.... nobody does anything perfect, and the only way to learn is to make the mistakes and move on.
I'm a spiritual person and firmly believe in letting people learn their lessons so that they can figure out what their karmic path is. And that is my philosophy with this relationship.... I'm not applying any pressure on it, and even though he wants to turn up the heat, I still insist on taking the time to take those steps, to gain understanding of each other to build a solid foundation.
I'm not an expert in relationships, but through my trials and errors of love, I have learned what it is that I'm looking for in a partner, and what it is that I need in a partner. My point is, is I know what it is that I'm looking for, why seetle for something that is less, and that I know isn't good for me? Somehow, this conveys in me being a egotistical, emotionally abusive, bitch..... I fail to see the connection, but such is the way things are.
Posted by BellaBulleautiful
As for the rest of that drivel,I didn't even read it.you read one of your posts,you've read them all.
you can see by her arguments that she's not emotionally stable. Even though this is a message board, I still believe in adopting the behavior as how you would act "in real life". You can tell on the boards who is real and who hides behind a user name. When I see her posts, the only feeling I get is someone that is angry and feels that this is the most convenient outlet to release her energy.
It would be nice to see her converse with manners, but you can't teach an old monkey new tricks, so it's convenient to see her as someone who is stuck in her ways, and take her from that angle.
Anyone that can reason that my relationship equates to that of child molestation is either way out there, or they are just baiting to get a reaction out of someone. It's sick.... plain and simple. Not to mention insensitive and disgusting.
Ooooo... looks like you're one hell of a lover. Very romantic with strong and deep emotions.
Sorry.... I lost you in the confusion of this thread..... thanks for that website. I think this is way above my head, all the square and conjunction and sextile stuff.... it's like reading a foreign language. I'm interested in learning and plan on getting some books.
And I would like to think that I am a sensitive lover. I know I have a lot to offer to my soul mate when I meet him one day. That's why I'm so selective with who I choose as a partner. I don't want to get hurt anymore, and I want to share and build a love with another human being.
How very curious. I was angry for similar reasons.
I suppose we could attribute this to your Mercury in Aries.
Is there an astrological pill that I can take to chill out my Mercury in Aries— 🙂
Weird, sounds like we do have a lot in common in this sense.
I think we're similar in other senses too.... but it's very strange when you have someone that understands your anger on the same plane as you do, considering that I didn't understand my anger for a very long time. Bouncing back and forth is almost healing in a sense..... to be honest, this is probably the deepest that I've discussed my anger issues as far as it being an emotional response for me. Even during therapy, I was reluctant to discuss the depth of my anger, because I didn't feel human. But they treated my anger as a behavioral problem rather than an emotional problem, singling out what emotional stimulus triggers my anger.
I was angry because of unfairness.
I saw the rich be rewarded constantly and the poor like myself suffering.
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Social injustices is what infuriates me..... that is heart breaking that you had to live through that. But, it is a part of you... it made you stronger. Out of curiosity, what are your outlets?
SV....
It's not hard to deal with criticism if it comes from an open and honest place. Sometimes it's hard to put yourself out there, because of the reactions that it stirs in other people and how they place their opinion on it. There are two on here that have gone out of their way to simplify me as a women and have denied the depths of what this relationship means. And when it is matters that are close to my heart, I will defend them.
I have taken the advice from here..... I see where my error was, and I see where I should be concerned as far as the relationship goes. And just like I said, and that you have reiterated, it's trial and error. I'm more internal, so I take things in, and to heart, rather than speak them out in an eureka way.
I came on here for feedback, but some really have gone about it with dishonest intents and a mean demeanor. I may not be the most easiest person to converse with, but at least what you see written is what you get, just as if you were face-to-face with me.
As far as with my virgo guy, I do have to be careful, because he is a player, and we have been best friends for a bit. It's weird territory, because we know each other as best friends, but knowing each other as lovers is on a different level. IT's more inter-personal, you see them in a different light when sensuality plays a role, and where gaps close, others open. I DO see a possibility, but I want things to be even and balanced, to create equality and healthiness in the relationship.
If you want diamonds, why settle for coal?
It's not hard to deal with criticism if it comes from an open and honest place. Sometimes it's hard to put yourself out there, because of the reactions that it stirs in other people and how they place their opinion on it. There are two on here that have gone out of their way to simplify me as a women and have denied the depths of what this relationship means. And when it is matters that are close to my heart, I will defend them.
I have taken the advice from here..... I see where my error was, and I see where I should be concerned as far as the relationship goes. And just like I said, and that you have reiterated, it's trial and error. I'm more internal, so I take things in, and to heart, rather than speak them out in an eureka way.
I came on here for feedback, but some really have gone about it with dishonest intents and a mean demeanor. I may not be the most easiest person to converse with, but at least what you see written is what you get, just as if you were face-to-face with me.
As far as with my virgo guy, I do have to be careful, because he is a player, and we have been best friends for a bit. It's weird territory, because we know each other as best friends, but knowing each other as lovers is on a different level. IT's more inter-personal, you see them in a different light when sensuality plays a role, and where gaps close, others open. I DO see a possibility, but I want things to be even and balanced, to create equality and healthiness in the relationship.
If you want diamonds, why settle for coal?
Are you "theskys", Tisair?
I agree with your statements in this situation.
She already acknowledges that he is beneath her .. he is a player, coal .... and she wants him to change for her.
Instead of her actually having a desire to be with a person to whom is already real for her .. she wishes to bend him to suit her.
control .... emotional and abusive control.
I agree with your statements in this situation.
She already acknowledges that he is beneath her .. he is a player, coal .... and she wants him to change for her.
Instead of her actually having a desire to be with a person to whom is already real for her .. she wishes to bend him to suit her.
control .... emotional and abusive control.
tisair... I don't know why you are so content on continuing a "debate" with me. But before this continues, I would like to point out that to effectively debate, you must attack someone's arguments, their statements, not nit pick at their words. It also would help that you actually READ what has been written, considering things that you have laid out in your post have already been address. Key points being that I I have worked on the compromise of the relationship, that being a key focus for both of us. Moreover, there never was an argument that ensured between the two-of-us. I've stated many times through out this thread that I look for a balanced relationship, a healthy relationship.
You keep on using words like WRONG, HELP, CALM..... If you go back through out this thread, you will note that I NEVER ONCE PLACED THE BLAME ON HIM. I NEVER SAID THAT HE WAS WRONG. You will also not that I accept where I was wrong. This situation was never a blame game.... it's something that happened, and we both dealt with it and understand one more aspect of each other.
That is a saying. It's not a reference for our relationship. Do I really need to explain what the meaning behind the saying is in order for you to follow your own argument against me?
So, let me know when you're done arguing.... because none of this has anything to do with that. You can have a discussion with me, but I am someone who does defend my point of view, and I can defend it very well.
You keep on using words like WRONG, HELP, CALM..... If you go back through out this thread, you will note that I NEVER ONCE PLACED THE BLAME ON HIM. I NEVER SAID THAT HE WAS WRONG. You will also not that I accept where I was wrong. This situation was never a blame game.... it's something that happened, and we both dealt with it and understand one more aspect of each other.
MIA - "If you want diamonds, why settle for coal?"
If you think you are a diamond, and he is coal, then why are YOU the one settling for his coal?
That is a saying. It's not a reference for our relationship. Do I really need to explain what the meaning behind the saying is in order for you to follow your own argument against me?
So, let me know when you're done arguing.... because none of this has anything to do with that. You can have a discussion with me, but I am someone who does defend my point of view, and I can defend it very well.
Posted by Mars.In.Aries
Sorry.... I lost you in the confusion of this thread..... thanks for that website. I think this is way above my head, all the square and conjunction and sextile stuff.... it's like reading a foreign language. I'm interested in learning and plan on getting some books.
Don't worry, I do not know that much about it myself.
And I would like to think that I am a sensitive lover. I know I have a lot to offer to my soul mate when I meet him one day. That's why I'm so selective with who I choose as a partner. I don't want to get hurt anymore, and I want to share and build a love with another human being.
Lovely
Is there an astrological pill that I can take to chill out my Mercury in Aries— 🙂
Good lovin' 🙂
I think we're similar in other senses too.... but it's very strange when you have someone that understands your anger on the same plane as you do, considering that I didn't understand my anger for a very long time. Bouncing back and forth is almost healing in a sense..... to be honest, this is probably the deepest that I've discussed my anger issues as far as it being an emotional response for me. Even during therapy, I was reluctant to discuss the depth of my anger, because I didn't feel human. But they treated my anger as a behavioral problem rather than an emotional problem, singling out what emotional stimulus triggers my anger.
I used to think silly things, such as being the "Angel of Death" or "Great Red Dragon" from the Bible. I certainly did not think it was human either.
Great anger, it represented who I was at one point and I was most certainly unhappy and anti social.
Social injustices is what infuriates me..... that is heart breaking that you had to live through that. But, it is a part of you... it made you stronger.click to expand
And wiser I believe.
Out of curiosity, what are your outlets?
Well having lived a teenage life full of repressed emotions and anger, I came to the realisation that I was not happy and not my "true" self.
I needed to rediscover my confidence and be comfortable with myself. Music played a great part.
Classical pieces relaxed me.
Hard Rock communicated my anger.
Gangsta rap channeled my aggression.
Epic cinematic themes brought my passion to life.
Sports, Video Games, action packed movies and stand up comedies did pretty well.
But above all, my religious faith and involvement with the church and Confirmation instructor played the greatest role.
Without my faith, I believe I would be a "lost soul", no different from the common view of men these days. Empty, moving from conquest to conquest, pleasure, living in the moment.
Posted by Mars.In.Aries
I thought Virgo's were passive......
... it's interesting, don't get me wrong, especially if he's trying to prove who's boss 😉
I think this quote of yours explains all, when taken into consideration how controlling and demanding you are, as you have described it to be in here making the assertions that if he wants to be happy in a relationship that he must change his ways to suit you.
The title and OP come as a surprise to you that he actually has balls.
..... because you thought he was passive by nature, and so would easily be whipped.
Your intentions with this man is to use him for your own need of control and emotional abuse.
Fucking bitch, you are.
Because he has female friends, you would see him as a Player, and your desire is to sway him, convince him that you are the catch of century .. afterall, no other woman could hold a candle to you, according to you.
Doesn't that negate all this integrity you think you are proving in here?
If he is indeed a Player, then he is scum ... and you want him.
Tiki is right for those who think she's self-serving ........ this Aries woman WANTS the very man in which she detests = The Player.
And she wants him not for his love, tenderness, sincerity ... she wants him because it would be a notch on her belt, a score.
Why everybody cannot see that ........ is beyond me.
Doesn't that negate all this integrity you think you are proving in here?
If he is indeed a Player, then he is scum ... and you want him.
Tiki is right for those who think she's self-serving ........ this Aries woman WANTS the very man in which she detests = The Player.
And she wants him not for his love, tenderness, sincerity ... she wants him because it would be a notch on her belt, a score.
Why everybody cannot see that ........ is beyond me.
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