lisabeth
@lisabethur8
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Posted by GemNinjathe message he's trying to convey is that he loves her.
If I came across some chick who had 50 guys in her past, that would say a red flag that she could be carrying an array of STD's, AIDs, Hepatitis and I would just stay away from her period. That just spells ho in my book. The fact that you are staying with a girl like that makes it even more disgusting.

Posted by lisabethur8Ok...........................?
i'm fine with opening up.
and @libra, naw....you figure it out.
you're smart.

Posted by iVirgo*balled
I aired mines to help with my own issue, she tossed her issue at me as if I was the ex who bald his fist at her
Posted by duchesslibrook.Posted by lisabethur8Ok...........................?
i'm fine with opening up.
and @libra, naw....you figure it out.
you're smart.
I don't think OP has any bs up his sleeve. I see no motive. Virgos rarely troll. At this point I have seen nothing that indicates bs.click to expand

Posted by GemNinjaUHM DOES NO ONE READ?
If I came across some chick who had 50 guys in her past, that would say a red flag that she could be carrying an array of STD's, AIDs, Hepatitis and I would just stay away from her period. That just spells ho in my book. The fact that you are staying with a girl like that makes it even more disgusting.

Posted by iVirgoguys are so gullible and delusional... LOL at 5 guys vs 50 guys
I've been with my girl for few years and I recently discovered in the beginning she was secretly contacting her ex lover, she did this for the first 4 years of our relationship and never told me, she would always speak bad about him, she also visited him on 3 occasions, but said he never was home, so why 3xs then, she hid his number and contacted him also via Myspace at the time, so why not just send him message to make sure he was there before going over. Also she decided to come clean about her past, I was always under the impression I was the 5th guy she's been with, I just found out I my be the 50th guy, and while we were just talking and fooling around she also had a guy friend she visited, but when we got serious cut him off. Yet she lied for years about her ex, calling him and visiting him and says nothing ever happened but stuff keeps coming out. At that time we fought a lot nothing physical just verbal. I can forgive her because I love her and she is 110% about me now, but I feel she is lying about cheating and I just want her to be honest with me. What do u aqua women think did she cheat, would u?
Posted by rampartsno i said he may be abusing her.Posted by febyIm not defending him but imagine being a man and a woman calling you an abuser just because she's been abused. He's being made to feel like he has to atone for every man's mistakes. Her approach doesn't really garner much sympathy. He is not her punching bag and I don't blame him for not standing there and taking it just because she is a victim. He, like everyone else in the world has his own baggage that he's trying not to take out on other people.Posted by iVirgoSo why would you brow beat her and encourage her at the same time?
@feby
I have no question or doubt Lisa is self absorbed, I merely am entertaining her nonsense, if I come off pessimistic, its only because she aired her own dirty laundry
That's just my thoughts.click to expand

Posted by febyYeah, sorry OP. That is troll-y behavior. My guess is iVirgo doesn't frequent internet forums often enough to realize that and know better. Live and learn. DXP and learn. 😆Posted by iVirgoSo why would you brow beat her and encourage her at the same time?
@feby
I have no question or doubt Lisa is self absorbed, I merely am entertaining her nonsense, if I come off pessimistic, its only because she aired her own dirty laundryclick to expand
Posted by aquapiscescuspand i can see why.....Posted by iVirgoguys are so gullible and delusional... LOL at 5 guys vs 50 guys
I've been with my girl for few years and I recently discovered in the beginning she was secretly contacting her ex lover, she did this for the first 4 years of our relationship and never told me, she would always speak bad about him, she also visited him on 3 occasions, but said he never was home, so why 3xs then, she hid his number and contacted him also via Myspace at the time, so why not just send him message to make sure he was there before going over. Also she decided to come clean about her past, I was always under the impression I was the 5th guy she's been with, I just found out I my be the 50th guy, and while we were just talking and fooling around she also had a guy friend she visited, but when we got serious cut him off. Yet she lied for years about her ex, calling him and visiting him and says nothing ever happened but stuff keeps coming out. At that time we fought a lot nothing physical just verbal. I can forgive her because I love her and she is 110% about me now, but I feel she is lying about cheating and I just want her to be honest with me. What do u aqua women think did she cheat, would u?
WHO CARES if you've been with her for what seems like over 4 years?
buddy, if a woman is looking elsewhere, maybe you aren't fulfilling her needs? this could be something to think about...click to expand

Posted by rampartsand that might be the big problem.Posted by lisabethur8Some people can't afford therapy and so the Internet becomes a substitute. A very poor substitute. He wasnt blasting his wife to strangers or however it seems to you. Imagine him going to a marriage therapist for help with his marriage. It's the same idea. The therapist is meant to help...not humiliate his wife. His feelings for her are separate from their issues. Having issues does not indicate loss of love or trust and neither does acknowledging themPosted by GemNinjathe message he's trying to convey is that he loves her.
If I came across some chick who had 50 guys in her past, that would say a red flag that she could be carrying an array of STD's, AIDs, Hepatitis and I would just stay away from her period. That just spells ho in my book. The fact that you are staying with a girl like that makes it even more disgusting.
but it doesn't feel like love.
he hasn't forgiven her and stays with her.
you can't stay with someone and drag their baggage and air out all that laundry with the person you love.
how can a person trust that person ever??
that's breaking a TRUST between man and wife, or partner and partner.
if there is NOT trust between a couple, then there's NO use in staying together.click to expand
Posted by rampartsand you, you were on a rampage on my ass too.Posted by lisabethur8Some people can't afford therapy and so the Internet becomes a substitute. A very poor substitute. He wasnt blasting his wife to strangers or however it seems to you. Imagine him going to a marriage therapist for help with his marriage. It's the same idea. The therapist is meant to help...not humiliate his wife. His feelings for her are separate from their issues. Having issues does not indicate loss of love or trust and neither does acknowledging themPosted by GemNinjathe message he's trying to convey is that he loves her.
If I came across some chick who had 50 guys in her past, that would say a red flag that she could be carrying an array of STD's, AIDs, Hepatitis and I would just stay away from her period. That just spells ho in my book. The fact that you are staying with a girl like that makes it even more disgusting.
but it doesn't feel like love.
he hasn't forgiven her and stays with her.
you can't stay with someone and drag their baggage and air out all that laundry with the person you love.
how can a person trust that person ever??
that's breaking a TRUST between man and wife, or partner and partner.
if there is NOT trust between a couple, then there's NO use in staying together.click to expand

Posted by iVirgoaquas like their secrets, I have to admit that!
As far as I know she never cheated, but in regards to her past even if she was only with 1 guy or 100 I would love her the same if I invested 10years with my lovely wife, and 99% time she remained a shining example of true love to me, her only flaw was keeping a secret. Just because many ppl chose to turn there back on love does not mean I fall in that same category to do so.
Posted by rampartsi called him out.Posted by lisabethur8You're the instigator here, not him. He stupidly followed suit and fell into your trap to make him look guilty. I blame myself actually. He was doing a good job of keeping his composure until I called you out
and his ACTIONS here....
you know why...
he mocks.
if he does that to his wife....
gaslighting and all that....
omg.click to expand
Posted by rampartsrecognize what??Posted by lisabethur8You're right. You instigated him and I came in and instigated you. We're both guilty. Except you don't recognize what you didPosted by rampartsi called him out.Posted by lisabethur8You're the instigator here, not him. He stupidly followed suit and fell into your trap to make him look guilty. I blame myself actually. He was doing a good job of keeping his composure until I called you out
and his ACTIONS here....
you know why...
he mocks.
if he does that to his wife....
gaslighting and all that....
omg.
what did you call me out on??
my past abuse? you only made sure that i was taking my medicine...
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Posted by lisabethur8He is not trying to manipulate you. He is trolling you.Posted by rampartsno i said he may be abusing her.Posted by febyIm not defending him but imagine being a man and a woman calling you an abuser just because she's been abused. He's being made to feel like he has to atone for every man's mistakes. Her approach doesn't really garner much sympathy. He is not her punching bag and I don't blame him for not standing there and taking it just because she is a victim. He, like everyone else in the world has his own baggage that he's trying not to take out on other people.Posted by iVirgoSo why would you brow beat her and encourage her at the same time?
@feby
I have no question or doubt Lisa is self absorbed, I merely am entertaining her nonsense, if I come off pessimistic, its only because she aired her own dirty laundry
That's just my thoughts.
we do NOT know do we—
he could be.
how the hell do i know??
but what i do understand is that he is good at manipulating and bullshitting.
and being all sweet and saying "oohhhhh lisa, i forgive you, go and and advocate for women's abuse"
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Posted by rampartsyou are the one who came in and attacked me.Posted by lisabethur8You're right. You instigated him and I came in and instigated you. We're both guilty. Except you don't recognize what you didPosted by rampartsi called him out.Posted by lisabethur8You're the instigator here, not him. He stupidly followed suit and fell into your trap to make him look guilty. I blame myself actually. He was doing a good job of keeping his composure until I called you out
and his ACTIONS here....
you know why...
he mocks.
if he does that to his wife....
gaslighting and all that....
omg.
what did you call me out on??
my past abuse? you only made sure that i was taking my medicine...
click to expand

Posted by lisabethur8yeah, that's not right...Posted by rampartsyou are the one who came in and attacked me.Posted by lisabethur8You're right. You instigated him and I came in and instigated you. We're both guilty. Except you don't recognize what you didPosted by rampartsi called him out.Posted by lisabethur8You're the instigator here, not him. He stupidly followed suit and fell into your trap to make him look guilty. I blame myself actually. He was doing a good job of keeping his composure until I called you out
and his ACTIONS here....
you know why...
he mocks.
if he does that to his wife....
gaslighting and all that....
omg.
what did you call me out on??
my past abuse? you only made sure that i was taking my medicine...
not me to you!!!
i attacked you back.
but you came in on your high horse and attacked me.
and called me out on my humiliation of my abused past like it made you feel good.
if it made you feel good. I'm GLAD....i like to see that people like you exist.click to expand
Posted by duchesslibrohe's not emotionally good to his wife. i dont like his energy.Posted by lisabethur8He is not trying to manipulate you. He is trolling you.Posted by rampartsno i said he may be abusing her.Posted by febyIm not defending him but imagine being a man and a woman calling you an abuser just because she's been abused. He's being made to feel like he has to atone for every man's mistakes. Her approach doesn't really garner much sympathy. He is not her punching bag and I don't blame him for not standing there and taking it just because she is a victim. He, like everyone else in the world has his own baggage that he's trying not to take out on other people.Posted by iVirgoSo why would you brow beat her and encourage her at the same time?
@feby
I have no question or doubt Lisa is self absorbed, I merely am entertaining her nonsense, if I come off pessimistic, its only because she aired her own dirty laundry
That's just my thoughts.
we do NOT know do we—
he could be.
how the hell do i know??
but what i do understand is that he is good at manipulating and bullshitting.
and being all sweet and saying "oohhhhh lisa, i forgive you, go and and advocate for women's abuse"
*drumroll pelase*
This is the part of the show where I reveal what goes on in my complicated mind. (Aquas gon' (not) love this. 😈 )
I have expressed that not only do Virgos rarely troll, but this Virgo does not strike me as trolling regarding his Original Post and yet I also believe that he is trolling Lisa.
Nothing about his story regarding his wife, etc, strikes me as trolling. BUT he has responded to Lisa's ranting in a trolling way. Hmmmm.... I wonder, my friends what placements he carries that cause this reaction from him.
@feby Where's that backpeddler? I believe I earned that shit fair and square. 😄click to expand

Posted by lisabethur8When did he put her down?!?!
a man who puts his wife down
in my personal opinon is not a good man.
Posted by ramparts🙂Posted by lisabethur8You're out of touch with reality. You're probably supposed to be heavily medicated and not following your prescribed plan.Posted by rampartsyou are the one who came in and attacked me.Posted by lisabethur8You're right. You instigated him and I came in and instigated you. We're both guilty. Except you don't recognize what you didPosted by rampartsi called him out.Posted by lisabethur8You're the instigator here, not him. He stupidly followed suit and fell into your trap to make him look guilty. I blame myself actually. He was doing a good job of keeping his composure until I called you out
and his ACTIONS here....
you know why...
he mocks.
if he does that to his wife....
gaslighting and all that....
omg.
what did you call me out on??
my past abuse? you only made sure that i was taking my medicine...
not me to you!!!
i attacked you back.
but you came in on your high horse and attacked me.
and called me out on my humiliation of my abused past like it made you feel good.
if it made you feel good. I'm GLAD....i like to see that people like you exist.click to expand


Posted by duchesslibroew. ok whatever.Posted by lisabethur8When did he put her down?!?!
a man who puts his wife down
in my personal opinon is not a good man.
He has spoken of her as if she's on a pedestal, she satisfies him in many ways it seems. Wonderful wife, mother, on and on he goes.
He's just being honest about a negative aspect of her. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EMOTIONALLY HEALTHY PEOPLE DO. They are honest with THEMSELVES and others about the fact that no one is perfect and problems can exist in otherwise healthy, happy relationships. In their case it seems that this particular problem is in the distant past.click to expand

Posted by rampartsMy recent backpeddling and realization that there are different types of trolling has inspired me to create some new words to describe different functions related to trolling. I'm calling what you did, *Trollstigating.* You trollstigated all of this. 🙂 lolPosted by lisabethur8You're the instigator here, not him. He stupidly followed suit and fell into your trap to make him look guilty. I blame myself actually. He was doing a good job of keeping his composure until I called you out
and his ACTIONS here....
you know why...
he mocks.
if he does that to his wife....
gaslighting and all that....
omg.click to expand

Posted by iVirgoWe need a gif of Frank from It's Always Sunny doing his troll toll dance.
I do no trolling, but if trolls cross this bridge then they must pay the toll to cross
Posted by rampartslike i said, what shitty behaviour—? calling him out on his bullshit??Posted by duchesslibroI did. I take responsibility for that. And I've said it before. I fight fire with more fire. It's probably not the most effective strategy because I make myself appear guilty in the process but if someone can recognize their own shitty behavior in the process (some people do) then I don't care.Posted by rampartsMy recent backpeddling and realization that there are different types of trolling has inspired me to create some new words to describe different functions related to trolling. I'm calling what you did, *Trollstigating.* You trollstigated all of this. 🙂 lolPosted by lisabethur8You're the instigator here, not him. He stupidly followed suit and fell into your trap to make him look guilty. I blame myself actually. He was doing a good job of keeping his composure until I called you out
and his ACTIONS here....
you know why...
he mocks.
if he does that to his wife....
gaslighting and all that....
omg.click to expand

Posted by iVirgoThere's absolutely nothing wrong with airing dirty laundry to faceless strangers.
@feby
Sad to say no she doesn't know I have spot lighted our problems, i feel as I'm harboring secrets, at least to strangers behind Avatar's.
Posted by duchesslibroit's not about that. It's he puts his own wife down.Posted by iVirgoThere's absolutely nothing wrong with airing dirty laundry to faceless strangers.
@feby
Sad to say no she doesn't know I have spot lighted our problems, i feel as I'm harboring secrets, at least to strangers behind Avatar's.
It's not like he's telling all their friends and family and their children.click to expand

Posted by lisabethur8Ew? What-the-fuck-ever. I hope you see a mental health professional or plan to. Talk therapy is vital to healing.Posted by duchesslibroew. ok whatever.Posted by lisabethur8When did he put her down?!?!
a man who puts his wife down
in my personal opinon is not a good man.
He has spoken of her as if she's on a pedestal, she satisfies him in many ways it seems. Wonderful wife, mother, on and on he goes.
He's just being honest about a negative aspect of her. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EMOTIONALLY HEALTHY PEOPLE DO. They are honest with THEMSELVES and others about the fact that no one is perfect and problems can exist in otherwise healthy, happy relationships. In their case it seems that this particular problem is in the distant past.
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Posted by lisabethur8Ew? What-the-fuck-ever. I hope you see a mental health professional or plan to. Talk therapy is vital to healing.Posted by duchesslibroew. ok whatever.Posted by lisabethur8When did he put her down?!?!
a man who puts his wife down
in my personal opinon is not a good man.
He has spoken of her as if she's on a pedestal, she satisfies him in many ways it seems. Wonderful wife, mother, on and on he goes.
He's just being honest about a negative aspect of her. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EMOTIONALLY HEALTHY PEOPLE DO. They are honest with THEMSELVES and others about the fact that no one is perfect and problems can exist in otherwise healthy, happy relationships. In their case it seems that this particular problem is in the distant past.
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Posted by duchesslibrowhy are you telling me this?Posted by lisabethur8Ew? What-the-fuck-ever. I hope you see a mental health professional or plan to. Talk therapy is vital to healing.Posted by duchesslibroew. ok whatever.Posted by lisabethur8When did he put her down?!?!
a man who puts his wife down
in my personal opinon is not a good man.
He has spoken of her as if she's on a pedestal, she satisfies him in many ways it seems. Wonderful wife, mother, on and on he goes.
He's just being honest about a negative aspect of her. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EMOTIONALLY HEALTHY PEOPLE DO. They are honest with THEMSELVES and others about the fact that no one is perfect and problems can exist in otherwise healthy, happy relationships. In their case it seems that this particular problem is in the distant past.
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Posted by rampartsYou mirroring mofo. 🙂Posted by duchesslibroI did. I take responsibility for that. And I've said it before. I fight fire with more fire. It's probably not the most effective strategy because I make myself appear guilty in the process but if someone can recognize their own shitty behavior in the process (some people do) then I don't care.Posted by rampartsMy recent backpeddling and realization that there are different types of trolling has inspired me to create some new words to describe different functions related to trolling. I'm calling what you did, *Trollstigating.* You trollstigated all of this. 🙂 lolPosted by lisabethur8You're the instigator here, not him. He stupidly followed suit and fell into your trap to make him look guilty. I blame myself actually. He was doing a good job of keeping his composure until I called you out
and his ACTIONS here....
you know why...
he mocks.
if he does that to his wife....
gaslighting and all that....
omg.click to expand
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and @libra, naw....you figure it out.
you're smart.