@lisabethur8
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@feby
I have no question or doubt Lisa is self absorbed, I merely am entertaining her nonsense, if I come off pessimistic, its only because she aired her own dirty laundry
If I came across some chick who had 50 guys in her past, that would say a red flag that she could be carrying an array of STD's, AIDs, Hepatitis and I would just stay away from her period. That just spells ho in my book. The fact that you are staying with a girl like that makes it even more disgusting.
I aired mines to help with my own issue, she tossed her issue at me as if I was the ex who bald his fist at her
Posted by GemNinja
If I came across some chick who had 50 guys in her past, that would say a red flag that she could be carrying an array of STD's, AIDs, Hepatitis and I would just stay away from her period. That just spells ho in my book. The fact that you are staying with a girl like that makes it even more disgusting.
the message he's trying to convey is that he loves her.
but it doesn't feel like love.
he hasn't forgiven her and stays with her.
you can't stay with someone and drag their baggage and air out all that laundry with the person you love.
how can a person trust that person ever??
that's breaking a TRUST between man and wife, or partner and partner.
if there is NOT trust between a couple, then there's NO use in staying together.
Posted by lisabethur8
i'm fine with opening up.and @libra, naw....you figure it out.
you're smart.
Ok...........................?
I don't think OP has any bs up his sleeve. I see no motive. Virgos rarely troll. At this point I have seen nothing that indicates bs.
Posted by iVirgo
I aired mines to help with my own issue, she tossed her issue at me as if I was the ex who bald his fist at her
*balled
sorry.
Posted by lisabethur8
i'm fine with opening up.and @libra, naw....you figure it out.
you're smart.
Ok...........................?
I don't think OP has any bs up his sleeve. I see no motive. Virgos rarely troll. At this point I have seen nothing that indicates bs.
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ok.
Posted by GemNinja
If I came across some chick who had 50 guys in her past, that would say a red flag that she could be carrying an array of STD's, AIDs, Hepatitis and I would just stay away from her period. That just spells ho in my book. The fact that you are staying with a girl like that makes it even more disgusting.
UHM DOES NO ONE READ?
He didn't just "come across" her. He has been married to her and they have several children. jfc. Obviously she isn't riddled with disease.. well maybe not obviously but in most countries pregnant women get extensive testing to protect the best interests of the baby.
Am I the aggressor?
Posted by iVirgo
I've been with my girl for few years and I recently discovered in the beginning she was secretly contacting her ex lover, she did this for the first 4 years of our relationship and never told me, she would always speak bad about him, she also visited him on 3 occasions, but said he never was home, so why 3xs then, she hid his number and contacted him also via Myspace at the time, so why not just send him message to make sure he was there before going over. Also she decided to come clean about her past, I was always under the impression I was the 5th guy she's been with, I just found out I my be the 50th guy, and while we were just talking and fooling around she also had a guy friend she visited, but when we got serious cut him off. Yet she lied for years about her ex, calling him and visiting him and says nothing ever happened but stuff keeps coming out. At that time we fought a lot nothing physical just verbal. I can forgive her because I love her and she is 110% about me now, but I feel she is lying about cheating and I just want her to be honest with me. What do u aqua women think did she cheat, would u?
guys are so gullible and delusional... LOL at 5 guys vs 50 guys
WHO CARES if you've been with her for what seems like over 4 years?
buddy, if a woman is looking elsewhere, maybe you aren't fulfilling her needs? this could be something to think about...
Posted by iVirgo
@febyI have no question or doubt Lisa is self absorbed, I merely am entertaining her nonsense, if I come off pessimistic, its only because she aired her own dirty laundry
So why would you brow beat her and encourage her at the same time?
Im not defending him but imagine being a man and a woman calling you an abuser just because she's been abused. He's being made to feel like he has to atone for every man's mistakes. Her approach doesn't really garner much sympathy. He is not her punching bag and I don't blame him for not standing there and taking it just because she is a victim. He, like everyone else in the world has his own baggage that he's trying not to take out on other people.
That's just my thoughts.
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no i said he may be abusing her.
we do NOT know do we—
he could be.
how the hell do i know??
but what i do understand is that he is good at manipulating and bullshitting.
and being all sweet and saying "oohhhhh lisa, i forgive you, go and and advocate for women's abuse"
a man who puts his wife down
in my personal opinon is not a good man.
Posted by iVirgo
@febyI have no question or doubt Lisa is self absorbed, I merely am entertaining her nonsense, if I come off pessimistic, its only because she aired her own dirty laundry
So why would you brow beat her and encourage her at the same time?
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Yeah, sorry OP. That is troll-y behavior. My guess is iVirgo doesn't frequent internet forums often enough to realize that and know better. Live and learn. DXP and learn. 😆
Posted by iVirgo
I've been with my girl for few years and I recently discovered in the beginning she was secretly contacting her ex lover, she did this for the first 4 years of our relationship and never told me, she would always speak bad about him, she also visited him on 3 occasions, but said he never was home, so why 3xs then, she hid his number and contacted him also via Myspace at the time, so why not just send him message to make sure he was there before going over. Also she decided to come clean about her past, I was always under the impression I was the 5th guy she's been with, I just found out I my be the 50th guy, and while we were just talking and fooling around she also had a guy friend she visited, but when we got serious cut him off. Yet she lied for years about her ex, calling him and visiting him and says nothing ever happened but stuff keeps coming out. At that time we fought a lot nothing physical just verbal. I can forgive her because I love her and she is 110% about me now, but I feel she is lying about cheating and I just want her to be honest with me. What do u aqua women think did she cheat, would u?guys are so gullible and delusional... LOL at 5 guys vs 50 guys
WHO CARES if you've been with her for what seems like over 4 years?
buddy, if a woman is looking elsewhere, maybe you aren't fulfilling her needs? this could be something to think about...
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and i can see why.....
I just read the op's first post, maybe he clarified a few things along the way...
Posted by GemNinja
If I came across some chick who had 50 guys in her past, that would say a red flag that she could be carrying an array of STD's, AIDs, Hepatitis and I would just stay away from her period. That just spells ho in my book. The fact that you are staying with a girl like that makes it even more disgusting.the message he's trying to convey is that he loves her.
but it doesn't feel like love.
he hasn't forgiven her and stays with her.
you can't stay with someone and drag their baggage and air out all that laundry with the person you love.
how can a person trust that person ever??
that's breaking a TRUST between man and wife, or partner and partner.
if there is NOT trust between a couple, then there's NO use in staying together.
Some people can't afford therapy and so the Internet becomes a substitute. A very poor substitute. He wasnt blasting his wife to strangers or however it seems to you. Imagine him going to a marriage therapist for help with his marriage. It's the same idea. The therapist is meant to help...not humiliate his wife. His feelings for her are separate from their issues. Having issues does not indicate loss of love or trust and neither does acknowledging them
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and that might be the big problem.
he is not emotionally fulfiling her and he knows it.
what i dnt understand, is why is she staying?
that's why i mention abuse.
i'm just saying with other women, this might be the case.
and his ACTIONS here....
you know why...
he mocks.
if he does that to his wife....
gaslighting and all that....
omg.
and all i did was mention my past abuse...
and look at him go....
As far as I know she never cheated, but in regards to her past even if she was only with 1 guy or 100 I would love her the same if I invested 10years with my lovely wife, and 99% time she remained a shining example of true love to me, her only flaw was keeping a secret. Just because many ppl chose to turn there back on love does not mean I fall in that same category to do so.
Posted by GemNinja
If I came across some chick who had 50 guys in her past, that would say a red flag that she could be carrying an array of STD's, AIDs, Hepatitis and I would just stay away from her period. That just spells ho in my book. The fact that you are staying with a girl like that makes it even more disgusting.the message he's trying to convey is that he loves her.
but it doesn't feel like love.
he hasn't forgiven her and stays with her.
you can't stay with someone and drag their baggage and air out all that laundry with the person you love.
how can a person trust that person ever??
that's breaking a TRUST between man and wife, or partner and partner.
if there is NOT trust between a couple, then there's NO use in staying together.
Some people can't afford therapy and so the Internet becomes a substitute. A very poor substitute. He wasnt blasting his wife to strangers or however it seems to you. Imagine him going to a marriage therapist for help with his marriage. It's the same idea. The therapist is meant to help...not humiliate his wife. His feelings for her are separate from their issues. Having issues does not indicate loss of love or trust and neither does acknowledging them
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and you, you were on a rampage on my ass too.
wow.
and talking about my ex's and how they humiliated me or might have....
i love how you accuse me of not being empathetic and look at you....so sweet.
how empathetic are you to women than you are to men who put their wives down??
that's the bullshit i'm talking about.
Posted by iVirgo
As far as I know she never cheated, but in regards to her past even if she was only with 1 guy or 100 I would love her the same if I invested 10years with my lovely wife, and 99% time she remained a shining example of true love to me, her only flaw was keeping a secret. Just because many ppl chose to turn there back on love does not mean I fall in that same category to do so.
aquas like their secrets, I have to admit that!
Posted by lisabethur8
and his ACTIONS here....you know why...
he mocks.
if he does that to his wife....
gaslighting and all that....
omg.
You're the instigator here, not him. He stupidly followed suit and fell into your trap to make him look guilty. I blame myself actually. He was doing a good job of keeping his composure until I called you out
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i called him out.
what did you call me out on??
my past abuse? you only made sure that i was taking my medicine...
I do no trolling, but if trolls cross this bridge then they must pay the toll to cross
Posted by lisabethur8
and his ACTIONS here....you know why...
he mocks.
if he does that to his wife....
gaslighting and all that....
omg.
You're the instigator here, not him. He stupidly followed suit and fell into your trap to make him look guilty. I blame myself actually. He was doing a good job of keeping his composure until I called you out
i called him out.
what did you call me out on??
my past abuse? you only made sure that i was taking my medicine...
You're right. You instigated him and I came in and instigated you. We're both guilty. Except you don't recognize what you did
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recognize what??
that he's full of shit?
what full of shit am i on??
Posted by iVirgo
@febyI have no question or doubt Lisa is self absorbed, I merely am entertaining her nonsense, if I come off pessimistic, its only because she aired her own dirty laundry
So why would you brow beat her and encourage her at the same time?
Im not defending him but imagine being a man and a woman calling you an abuser just because she's been abused. He's being made to feel like he has to atone for every man's mistakes. Her approach doesn't really garner much sympathy. He is not her punching bag and I don't blame him for not standing there and taking it just because she is a victim. He, like everyone else in the world has his own baggage that he's trying not to take out on other people.
That's just my thoughts.
no i said he may be abusing her.
we do NOT know do we—
he could be.
how the hell do i know??
but what i do understand is that he is good at manipulating and bullshitting.
and being all sweet and saying "oohhhhh lisa, i forgive you, go and and advocate for women's abuse"
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He is not trying to manipulate you. He is trolling you.
*drumroll pelase*
This is the part of the show where I reveal what goes on in my complicated mind. (Aquas gon' (not) love this. 😈 )
I have expressed that not only do Virgos rarely troll, but this Virgo does not strike me as trolling regarding his Original Post and yet I also believe that he is trolling Lisa.
Nothing about his story regarding his wife, etc, strikes me as trolling. BUT he has responded to Lisa's ranting in a trolling way. Hmmmm.... I wonder, my friends what placements he carries that cause this reaction from him.
@feby Where's that backpeddler? I believe I earned that shit fair and square. 😄
Posted by lisabethur8
and his ACTIONS here....you know why...
he mocks.
if he does that to his wife....
gaslighting and all that....
omg.
You're the instigator here, not him. He stupidly followed suit and fell into your trap to make him look guilty. I blame myself actually. He was doing a good job of keeping his composure until I called you out
i called him out.
what did you call me out on??
my past abuse? you only made sure that i was taking my medicine...
You're right. You instigated him and I came in and instigated you. We're both guilty. Except you don't recognize what you did
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you are the one who came in and attacked me.
not me to you!!!
i attacked you back.
but you came in on your high horse and attacked me.
and called me out on my humiliation of my abused past like it made you feel good.
if it made you feel good. I'm GLAD....i like to see that people like you exist.
Posted by lisabethur8
and his ACTIONS here....you know why...
he mocks.
if he does that to his wife....
gaslighting and all that....
omg.
You're the instigator here, not him. He stupidly followed suit and fell into your trap to make him look guilty. I blame myself actually. He was doing a good job of keeping his composure until I called you out
i called him out.
what did you call me out on??
my past abuse? you only made sure that i was taking my medicine...
You're right. You instigated him and I came in and instigated you. We're both guilty. Except you don't recognize what you did
you are the one who came in and attacked me.
not me to you!!!
i attacked you back.
but you came in on your high horse and attacked me.
and called me out on my humiliation of my abused past like it made you feel good.
if it made you feel good. I'm GLAD....i like to see that people like you exist.
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yeah, that's not right...
Posted by iVirgo
@febyI have no question or doubt Lisa is self absorbed, I merely am entertaining her nonsense, if I come off pessimistic, its only because she aired her own dirty laundry
So why would you brow beat her and encourage her at the same time?
Im not defending him but imagine being a man and a woman calling you an abuser just because she's been abused. He's being made to feel like he has to atone for every man's mistakes. Her approach doesn't really garner much sympathy. He is not her punching bag and I don't blame him for not standing there and taking it just because she is a victim. He, like everyone else in the world has his own baggage that he's trying not to take out on other people.
That's just my thoughts.
no i said he may be abusing her.
we do NOT know do we—
he could be.
how the hell do i know??
but what i do understand is that he is good at manipulating and bullshitting.
and being all sweet and saying "oohhhhh lisa, i forgive you, go and and advocate for women's abuse"
He is not trying to manipulate you. He is trolling you.
*drumroll pelase*
This is the part of the show where I reveal what goes on in my complicated mind. (Aquas gon' (not) love this. 😈 )
I have expressed that not only do Virgos rarely troll, but this Virgo does not strike me as trolling regarding his Original Post and yet I also believe that he is trolling Lisa.
Nothing about his story regarding his wife, etc, strikes me as trolling. BUT he has responded to Lisa's ranting in a trolling way. Hmmmm.... I wonder, my friends what placements he carries that cause this reaction from him.
@feby Where's that backpeddler? I believe I earned that shit fair and square. 😄
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he's not emotionally good to his wife. i dont like his energy.
@feby
Sad to say no she doesn't know I have spot lighted our problems, i feel as I'm harboring secrets, at least to strangers behind Avatar's.
Posted by lisabethur8
a man who puts his wife downin my personal opinon is not a good man.
When did he put her down?!?!
He has spoken of her as if she's on a pedestal, she satisfies him in many ways it seems. Wonderful wife, mother, on and on he goes.
He's just being honest about a negative aspect of her. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EMOTIONALLY HEALTHY PEOPLE DO. They are honest with THEMSELVES and others about the fact that no one is perfect and problems can exist in otherwise healthy, happy relationships. In their case it seems that this particular problem is in the distant past.
Posted by lisabethur8
and his ACTIONS here....you know why...
he mocks.
if he does that to his wife....
gaslighting and all that....
omg.
You're the instigator here, not him. He stupidly followed suit and fell into your trap to make him look guilty. I blame myself actually. He was doing a good job of keeping his composure until I called you out
i called him out.
what did you call me out on??
my past abuse? you only made sure that i was taking my medicine...
You're right. You instigated him and I came in and instigated you. We're both guilty. Except you don't recognize what you did
you are the one who came in and attacked me.
not me to you!!!
i attacked you back.
but you came in on your high horse and attacked me.
and called me out on my humiliation of my abused past like it made you feel good.
if it made you feel good. I'm GLAD....i like to see that people like you exist.
You're out of touch with reality. You're probably supposed to be heavily medicated and not following your prescribed plan.
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🙂
I have had 2 relationships with Virgo men. They both made me want to cheat, LOL
I never understood why I attract them either...
Posted by lisabethur8
a man who puts his wife downin my personal opinon is not a good man.
When did he put her down?!?!
He has spoken of her as if she's on a pedestal, she satisfies him in many ways it seems. Wonderful wife, mother, on and on he goes.
He's just being honest about a negative aspect of her. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EMOTIONALLY HEALTHY PEOPLE DO. They are honest with THEMSELVES and others about the fact that no one is perfect and problems can exist in otherwise healthy, happy relationships. In their case it seems that this particular problem is in the distant past.
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ew. ok whatever.
how about just shutting up and leaving her? or hey i forgive you and let's move on... not drag this shit into the next lifetime,
my husband would NEVER marry a woman who drags her baggage into the relationship.
but i can talk about it here, and i'm glad, because it seems to TRIGGER some of you folks too....
like ramparts....
it makes me see how SOME (not al) women are in the world.
how they probably look at abused women as a kind of low life contemptous types, who they deserve it for being so stupid.
maybe.
but dont talk to me about being empathetic.
Posted by lisabethur8
and his ACTIONS here....you know why...
he mocks.
if he does that to his wife....
gaslighting and all that....
omg.
You're the instigator here, not him. He stupidly followed suit and fell into your trap to make him look guilty. I blame myself actually. He was doing a good job of keeping his composure until I called you out
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My recent backpeddling and realization that there are different types of trolling has inspired me to create some new words to describe different functions related to trolling. I'm calling what you did, *Trollstigating.* You trollstigated all of this. 🙂 lol
Posted by iVirgo
I do no trolling, but if trolls cross this bridge then they must pay the toll to cross
We need a gif of Frank from It's Always Sunny doing his troll toll dance.
Posted by lisabethur8
and his ACTIONS here....you know why...
he mocks.
if he does that to his wife....
gaslighting and all that....
omg.
You're the instigator here, not him. He stupidly followed suit and fell into your trap to make him look guilty. I blame myself actually. He was doing a good job of keeping his composure until I called you out
My recent backpeddling and realization that there are different types of trolling has inspired me to create some new words to describe different functions related to trolling. I'm calling what you did, *Trollstigating.* You trollstigated all of this. 🙂 lol
I did. I take responsibility for that. And I've said it before. I fight fire with more fire. It's probably not the most effective strategy because I make myself appear guilty in the process but if someone can recognize their own shitty behavior in the process (some people do) then I don't care.
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like i said, what shitty behaviour—? calling him out on his bullshit??
we go in circles. you are the one who came in here and attacked ME first.
Posted by iVirgo
@febySad to say no she doesn't know I have spot lighted our problems, i feel as I'm harboring secrets, at least to strangers behind Avatar's.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with airing dirty laundry to faceless strangers.
It's not like he's telling all their friends and family and their children.
2 for 1 since she is use to combos
Posted by iVirgo
@febySad to say no she doesn't know I have spot lighted our problems, i feel as I'm harboring secrets, at least to strangers behind Avatar's.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with airing dirty laundry to faceless strangers.
It's not like he's telling all their friends and family and their children.
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it's not about that. It's he puts his own wife down.
that's NOT love.
if you love someone, you love them because they complete you. make you happy.
not put someone down and stay with them.
what is it that is hard to get?
would you stay with a man that puts you down alot?
Posted by lisabethur8
a man who puts his wife downin my personal opinon is not a good man.
When did he put her down?!?!
He has spoken of her as if she's on a pedestal, she satisfies him in many ways it seems. Wonderful wife, mother, on and on he goes.
He's just being honest about a negative aspect of her. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EMOTIONALLY HEALTHY PEOPLE DO. They are honest with THEMSELVES and others about the fact that no one is perfect and problems can exist in otherwise healthy, happy relationships. In their case it seems that this particular problem is in the distant past.
ew. ok whatever.
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Ew? What-the-fuck-ever. I hope you see a mental health professional or plan to. Talk therapy is vital to healing.
Posted by lisabethur8
a man who puts his wife downin my personal opinon is not a good man.
When did he put her down?!?!
He has spoken of her as if she's on a pedestal, she satisfies him in many ways it seems. Wonderful wife, mother, on and on he goes.
He's just being honest about a negative aspect of her. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EMOTIONALLY HEALTHY PEOPLE DO. They are honest with THEMSELVES and others about the fact that no one is perfect and problems can exist in otherwise healthy, happy relationships. In their case it seems that this particular problem is in the distant past.
ew. ok whatever.
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Ew? What-the-fuck-ever. I hope you see a mental health professional or plan to. Talk therapy is vital to healing.
when I realized my virgo ex was cheating, no amount of therapy would have helped LOL
Posted by lisabethur8
a man who puts his wife downin my personal opinon is not a good man.
When did he put her down?!?!
He has spoken of her as if she's on a pedestal, she satisfies him in many ways it seems. Wonderful wife, mother, on and on he goes.
He's just being honest about a negative aspect of her. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EMOTIONALLY HEALTHY PEOPLE DO. They are honest with THEMSELVES and others about the fact that no one is perfect and problems can exist in otherwise healthy, happy relationships. In their case it seems that this particular problem is in the distant past.
ew. ok whatever.
Ew? What-the-fuck-ever. I hope you see a mental health professional or plan to. Talk therapy is vital to healing.
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why are you telling me this?
you're just as bad as ramparts and the OP.
Posted by lisabethur8
and his ACTIONS here....you know why...
he mocks.
if he does that to his wife....
gaslighting and all that....
omg.
You're the instigator here, not him. He stupidly followed suit and fell into your trap to make him look guilty. I blame myself actually. He was doing a good job of keeping his composure until I called you out
My recent backpeddling and realization that there are different types of trolling has inspired me to create some new words to describe different functions related to trolling. I'm calling what you did, *Trollstigating.* You trollstigated all of this. 🙂 lol
I did. I take responsibility for that. And I've said it before. I fight fire with more fire. It's probably not the most effective strategy because I make myself appear guilty in the process but if someone can recognize their own shitty behavior in the process (some people do) then I don't care.
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You mirroring mofo. 🙂
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i'm fine with opening up.
and @libra, naw....you figure it out.
you're smart.