How can an Aquarius just verbally destroy someone they say they love. (Page 3)

Posted by Ladi1975

Posted by P-Angel
It looks to me that he operated within the established parameters that you set as acceptable.

You are the director of your life, and it doesn't look like you had any qualms with him until this incident.



I find it ignorant of you that you were so oblivious that you were so oblivious of him that you had no clue how he reacts/responds when ticked off.



Just in you saying, "his highness" indicates how arrogant you are.



I'd love to hear his side of this inflated story ... I'd wager most people in here would hide their posts once they realized that you're at fault for setting those conditions in which he was operating.

Yes I was mad and upset when I wrote this so that is where the his highness came from. That phrase had been used to describe him by his boss and a co worker I thought it was appropriate. As for me being critical. He would tell you himself that I am the only person in his life who has never passed judgement on him or put him down. I've always been his cheerleader and confidant. As for setting conditions he knew my daughter has been and always will be my life. In the past he had shown that he understood that. One Friday night he and I were on date we had just left dinner and were on our way to catch a movie, my daughter called and asked to be picked up for the weekend. I explained to her that we were out and I wouldn't be picking her up. After I hung up he told me to call her back and tell her we were on our way to get her. He had established that he knew what kind of mother I was and said on many occasions that I was really all she had because my ex husband had dropped the ball many years ago.

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Oh, how lovely of a person you paint him to be.

You have a whole arsenal just waiting should you have to defend him, don't you?

So, I was right. This thread is only in place so you can get people to take sides with you, so you'll feel validated ... it has nothing to do with you not being with him because you do want to.



so, now that you got it all out of your system, you should probably call him .... surely he has some dirty clothes for you wash while you fuck him like his personal porn star.



Meanwhile, look at all these people who believe of themselves as being good people .. in whom you manipulated into attacking his character just so you could go wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa



Spray and wash works really good on skid marks, and also if you powder it with baby powder, it will absorb the poop and make it much easier to get clean.

Also, you need to lose weight according to him, if you plan on making him happy .... so maybe you should cut back on making such large quantities of food.

Posted by bkbella86

Because he will if she goes back. He's already profiled her.

She has already stated in here that she has experienced this trait in him before .... she forgave him, went back to washing his clothes, cooking for him and fucking him like a porn star.

You didn't actually read this thread, did you?



It's not abuse. It was abuse the first time he did it to her. Now, it's her choice. If a person chooses to be mistreated, and rewards him with her love ... then it's what she deserves because it is what she has established as acceptable treatment.

be real

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Posted by P-Angel
It looks to me that he operated within the established parameters that you set as acceptable.

You are the director of your life, and it doesn't look like you had any qualms with him until this incident.



I find it ignorant of you that you were so oblivious that you were so oblivious of him that you had no clue how he reacts/responds when ticked off.



Just in you saying, "his highness" indicates how arrogant you are.



I'd love to hear his side of this inflated story ... I'd wager most people in here would hide their posts once they realized that you're at fault for setting those conditions in which he was operating.

Just because someone yells "shoot me" dosen't mean ya gotta shoot em P

I have no clue what you mean by that.

she is responsible for how she taught him to treat her. If you think this is the first time she has come across this trait in him then you're very gullible and naïve.

You don't spend that much time with someone, being their mother and wiping their asses inbetween wash loads and not have experienced all of their traits, attitudes and views.

The mere fact that she's been through this before with him and forgave speaks volumes about who is at fault here.

Someone has to speak the truth ..... everyone else just wants to attack his character even though he isn't even here to speak for himself, and the only info they have is her jaded and pissed bitterness.

I can't believe people are in here making judgments on a person's character when they haven't even heard his truth.



How bizarre you people are. It's her responsibility to set the boundaries of what is acceptable to her. I mean doesn't anyone besides me even realize how many times she's made excuses for him in here? And for the mere fact that she's even in here giving it her attention and consideration is a clear indication that she's not wanting to be without him .. she's just wants to be validated.



I mean .... are you all really this stupid? .. and believe this post is about dropping an asshole out of her life?



rflmao

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Yes you are correct this was not the first time he had thrown a fit but for things like me hiding my smoking from him and not to the extent that he chose to take it this time.

As for me defending him, I am looking for honest knowledgeable input from people. Do I miss him and feel like I can't breath? absolutely. Do I want to believe he is remorseful and willing and capable of change? Yes. Do I want to get in my car and drive to him right now? yes. I have self respect and self worth and I know that I nor anyone else deserves to be torn down.

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Posted by bkbella86
The problem here Sultry is that you don't know what abuse is, so this convo is going over your head. OP said he made her feel the lowest she'd felt in life. That's nothing to play with or go back to.

....i feel like you are just trying to pick a fight...shes said numerous times that she doesn't condone abuse yet you keep insisting upon it... whether it's abuse or not...its not upto you to decide...OP said so herself that 95% of the time he is amazeballs....if you're going to walk out because of that 5% ...then there's no point in being in a relationship.... period.... thinking it's going to be 100% perfect all the time...is a thing called...delussional... couples argue all the time.... there are always two sides to every story and neither is 100% accurate....

It's into the OP...if she wants to stay or go...but OP should really co sides putting her foot down and saying NO....then walking away

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I didn't make up the definition of abuse. It's not debatable. ust because I don't agree with all the doormats in here doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Also Ive already said my piece to OP, you're right it's up to OP. I've been talking to Sultry. Where did you come from?

And what fight? People can disagree. That's what I'm doing. I still won't change my stance.

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Posted by bkbella86
The problem here Sultry is that you don't know what abuse is, so this convo is going over your head. OP said he made her feel the lowest she'd felt in life. That's nothing to play with or go back to.

And if you do, tell me who's projecting?

"You think the abuse is worth it for this imaginary connection. That couldn't even withstand a change of plans. That's some "connection"

Please don't put words in my mouth. Your reading comprehension is abysmal. And your projection is showing, you might want to have a look at that.

I'm reiterating what you have been saying that's all. Don't be mad.

I haven't seen anywhere where she's actually insinuated that she should stay. What she is saying (that I can see) is that it COULD POSSIBLY be salvaged. As in not just throwing something away because of one incident.

That is the same no? Why would you salvage anything with an abuser?

I don't know if I'd actually call him an abuser at this point. What I do think happened was he got spoiled, felt entitled and threw a fit to try and get his way. He felt robbed of his precious time. I also think he was testing her boundaries.

Well good thing you're no mental health professional. Because what he did was abuse, classic. She should salvage it to see if he goes further? Because he will if she goes back. He's already profiled her.

I want to know if when you and your wife if you have children, would you advise your daughter the same?

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Well, first off.......I don't tell anyone what to do with their own life. It would be my daughters decision ultimately. Would I be happy about it? Hell no

I'd have to really see the good in someone to try and work things out with a person like that. Like try and honestly talk it out. Establish firm boundaries and stuff. they've probably never even had a discussion like that. Most people don't until something like this happens to force the discussion.

Posted by Ladi1975

Posted by P-Angel
It looks to me that he operated within the established parameters that you set as acceptable.

You are the director of your life, and it doesn't look like you had any qualms with him until this incident.



I find it ignorant of you that you were so oblivious that you were so oblivious of him that you had no clue how he reacts/responds when ticked off.



Just in you saying, "his highness" indicates how arrogant you are.



I'd love to hear his side of this inflated story ... I'd wager most people in here would hide their posts once they realized that you're at fault for setting those conditions in which he was operating.

Yes I was mad and upset when I wrote this so that is where the his highness came from. That phrase had been used to describe him by his boss and a co worker I thought it was appropriate. As for me being critical. He would tell you himself that I am the only person in his life who has never passed judgement on him or put him down. I've always been his cheerleader and confidant. As for setting conditions he knew my daughter has been and always will be my life. In the past he had shown that he understood that. One Friday night he and I were on date we had just left dinner and were on our way to catch a movie, my daughter called and asked to be picked up for the weekend. I explained to her that we were out and I wouldn't be picking her up. After I hung up he told me to call her back and tell her we were on our way to get her. He had established that he knew what kind of mother I was and said on many occasions that I was really all she had because my ex husband had dropped the ball many years ago.

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Waaaait a minute!!!

If you weren't picking her up - who should have? What is that about? Now you defending him? And what kind of mother you are— I am confused.

Posted by Ladi1975

Posted by P-Angel

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by P-Angel
It looks to me that he operated within the established parameters that you set as acceptable.

You are the director of your life, and it doesn't look like you had any qualms with him until this incident.



I find it ignorant of you that you were so oblivious that you were so oblivious of him that you had no clue how he reacts/responds when ticked off.



Just in you saying, "his highness" indicates how arrogant you are.



I'd love to hear his side of this inflated story ... I'd wager most people in here would hide their posts once they realized that you're at fault for setting those conditions in which he was operating.

Just because someone yells "shoot me" dosen't mean ya gotta shoot em P

I have no clue what you mean by that.

she is responsible for how she taught him to treat her. If you think this is the first time she has come across this trait in him then you're very gullible and naïve.

You don't spend that much time with someone, being their mother and wiping their asses inbetween wash loads and not have experienced all of their traits, attitudes and views.

The mere fact that she's been through this before with him and forgave speaks volumes about who is at fault here.

Someone has to speak the truth ..... everyone else just wants to attack his character even though he isn't even here to speak for himself, and the only info they have is her jaded and pissed bitterness.

I can't believe people are in here making judgments on a person's character when they haven't even heard his truth.



How bizarre you people are. It's her responsibility to set the boundaries of what is acceptable to her. I mean doesn't anyone besides me even realize how many times she's made excuses for him in here? And for the mere fact that she's even in here giving it her attention and consideration is a clear indication that she's not wanting to be without him .. she's just wants to be validated.



I mean .... are you all really this stupid? .. and believe this post is about dropping an asshole out of her life?



rflmao

Yes you are correct this was not the first time he had thrown a fit but for things like me hiding my smoking from him and not to the extent that he chose to take it this time.

As for me defending him, I am looking for honest knowledgeable input from people. Do I miss him and feel like I can't breath? absolutely. Do I want to believe he is remorseful and willing and capable of change? Yes. Do I want to get in my car and drive to him right now? yes. I have self respect and self worth and I know that I nor anyone else deserves to be torn down.

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This relationship is already doomed for failure. You're hiding things from him yet, blasting him for using you. Wth.

This is why I need to stay out of personal threads and stick to joking on ands or firebunny.

People ALWAYS leave out the parts where they're messing up

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Posted by Ladi1975

Posted by P-Angel
It looks to me that he operated within the established parameters that you set as acceptable.

You are the director of your life, and it doesn't look like you had any qualms with him until this incident.



I find it ignorant of you that you were so oblivious that you were so oblivious of him that you had no clue how he reacts/responds when ticked off.



Just in you saying, "his highness" indicates how arrogant you are.



I'd love to hear his side of this inflated story ... I'd wager most people in here would hide their posts once they realized that you're at fault for setting those conditions in which he was operating.

Yes I was mad and upset when I wrote this so that is where the his highness came from. That phrase had been used to describe him by his boss and a co worker I thought it was appropriate. As for me being critical. He would tell you himself that I am the only person in his life who has never passed judgement on him or put him down. I've always been his cheerleader and confidant. As for setting conditions he knew my daughter has been and always will be my life. In the past he had shown that he understood that. One Friday night he and I were on date we had just left dinner and were on our way to catch a movie, my daughter called and asked to be picked up for the weekend. I explained to her that we were out and I wouldn't be picking her up. After I hung up he told me to call her back and tell her we were on our way to get her. He had established that he knew what kind of mother I was and said on many occasions that I was really all she had because my ex husband had dropped the ball many years ago.

Waaaait a minute!!!

If you weren't picking her up - who should have? What is that about? Now you defending him? And what kind of mother you are— I am confused.

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She is in college and living in a dorm and everytime she wanted to come home she knew to check with me earlier in the week. So at the last minute on a Friday night she asked to get picked up to come home for the weekend. I would of probably picked her up the next morning.

I'm the kind of mother that bends over backwards like driving an hour after working a 10 hour shift because she forget her school ID at home or arranging my whole vacation so she can go to NJ to a meet and greet with Frank iero from My Chemical Romance or paying for plane tickets to California when I've never been there myself. That's what kind of mother I am.

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Posted by Ladi1975

Posted by P-Angel

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by P-Angel
It looks to me that he operated within the established parameters that you set as acceptable.

You are the director of your life, and it doesn't look like you had any qualms with him until this incident.



I find it ignorant of you that you were so oblivious that you were so oblivious of him that you had no clue how he reacts/responds when ticked off.



Just in you saying, "his highness" indicates how arrogant you are.



I'd love to hear his side of this inflated story ... I'd wager most people in here would hide their posts once they realized that you're at fault for setting those conditions in which he was operating.

Just because someone yells "shoot me" dosen't mean ya gotta shoot em P

I have no clue what you mean by that.

she is responsible for how she taught him to treat her. If you think this is the first time she has come across this trait in him then you're very gullible and naïve.

You don't spend that much time with someone, being their mother and wiping their asses inbetween wash loads and not have experienced all of their traits, attitudes and views.

The mere fact that she's been through this before with him and forgave speaks volumes about who is at fault here.

Someone has to speak the truth ..... everyone else just wants to attack his character even though he isn't even here to speak for himself, and the only info they have is her jaded and pissed bitterness.

I can't believe people are in here making judgments on a person's character when they haven't even heard his truth.



How bizarre you people are. It's her responsibility to set the boundaries of what is acceptable to her. I mean doesn't anyone besides me even realize how many times she's made excuses for him in here? And for the mere fact that she's even in here giving it her attention and consideration is a clear indication that she's not wanting to be without him .. she's just wants to be validated.



I mean .... are you all really this stupid? .. and believe this post is about dropping an asshole out of her life?



rflmao

Yes you are correct this was not the first time he had thrown a fit but for things like me hiding my smoking from him and not to the extent that he chose to take it this time.

As for me defending him, I am looking for honest knowledgeable input from people. Do I miss him and feel like I can't breath? absolutely. Do I want to believe he is remorseful and willing and capable of change? Yes. Do I want to get in my car and drive to him right now? yes. I have self respect and self worth and I know that I nor anyone else deserves to be torn down.

This relationship is already doomed for failure. You're hiding things from him yet, blasting him for using you. Wth.

This is why I need to stay out of personal threads and stick to joking on ands or firebunny.

People ALWAYS leave out the parts where they're messing up

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This was last year I had been going through some stress at work and problems with house repairs and paying for it. So I picked up a pack after not smoking for 9 years.

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Posted by bkbella86

Because he will if she goes back. He's already profiled her.

She has already stated in here that she has experienced this trait in him before .... she forgave him, went back to washing his clothes, cooking for him and fucking him like a porn star.

You didn't actually read this thread, did you?



It's not abuse. It was abuse the first time he did it to her. Now, it's her choice. If a person chooses to be mistreated, and rewards him with her love ... then it's what she deserves because it is what she has established as acceptable treatment.

be real

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lol I did read and I agree with you.

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Posted by sultrykitty

Posted by bkbella86
The problem here Sultry is that you don't know what abuse is, so this convo is going over your head. OP said he made her feel the lowest she'd felt in life. That's nothing to play with or go back to.

And if you do, tell me who's projecting?

"You think the abuse is worth it for this imaginary connection. That couldn't even withstand a change of plans. That's some "connection"

Please don't put words in my mouth. Your reading comprehension is abysmal. And your projection is showing, you might want to have a look at that.

I'm reiterating what you have been saying that's all. Don't be mad.

I haven't seen anywhere where she's actually insinuated that she should stay. What she is saying (that I can see) is that it COULD POSSIBLY be salvaged. As in not just throwing something away because of one incident.

That is the same no? Why would you salvage anything with an abuser?

I don't know if I'd actually call him an abuser at this point. What I do think happened was he got spoiled, felt entitled and threw a fit to try and get his way. He felt robbed of his precious time. I also think he was testing her boundaries.

Well good thing you're no mental health professional. Because what he did was abuse, classic. She should salvage it to see if he goes further? Because he will if she goes back. He's already profiled her.

I want to know if when you and your wife if you have children, would you advise your daughter the same?

Well, first off.......I don't tell anyone what to do with their own life. It would be my daughters decision ultimately. Would I be happy about it? Hell no

I'd have to really see the good in someone to try and work things out with a person like that. Like try and honestly talk it out. Establish firm boundaries and stuff. they've probably never even had a discussion like that. Most people don't until something like this happens to force the discussion.

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lol smh

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Posted by P-Angel
It looks to me that he operated within the established parameters that you set as acceptable.

You are the director of your life, and it doesn't look like you had any qualms with him until this incident.



I find it ignorant of you that you were so oblivious that you were so oblivious of him that you had no clue how he reacts/responds when ticked off.



Just in you saying, "his highness" indicates how arrogant you are.



I'd love to hear his side of this inflated story ... I'd wager most people in here would hide their posts once they realized that you're at fault for setting those conditions in which he was operating.

Yes I was mad and upset when I wrote this so that is where the his highness came from. That phrase had been used to describe him by his boss and a co worker I thought it was appropriate. As for me being critical. He would tell you himself that I am the only person in his life who has never passed judgement on him or put him down. I've always been his cheerleader and confidant. As for setting conditions he knew my daughter has been and always will be my life. In the past he had shown that he understood that. One Friday night he and I were on date we had just left dinner and were on our way to catch a movie, my daughter called and asked to be picked up for the weekend. I explained to her that we were out and I wouldn't be picking her up. After I hung up he told me to call her back and tell her we were on our way to get her. He had established that he knew what kind of mother I was and said on many occasions that I was really all she had because my ex husband had dropped the ball many years ago.

Waaaait a minute!!!

If you weren't picking her up - who should have? What is that about? Now you defending him? And what kind of mother you are— I am confused.

She is in college and living in a dorm and everytime she wanted to come home she knew to check with me earlier in the week. So at the last minute on a Friday night she asked to get picked up to come home for the weekend. I would of probably picked her up the next morning.

I'm the kind of mother that bends over backwards like driving an hour after working a 10 hour shift because she forget her school ID at home or arranging my whole vacation so she can go to NJ to a meet and greet with Frank iero from My Chemical Romance or paying for plane tickets to California when I've never been there myself. That's what kind of mother I am.

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Well...I hope it's clear for everyone now.

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Posted by Ladi1975

Posted by P-Angel

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Posted by P-Angel
It looks to me that he operated within the established parameters that you set as acceptable.

You are the director of your life, and it doesn't look like you had any qualms with him until this incident.



I find it ignorant of you that you were so oblivious that you were so oblivious of him that you had no clue how he reacts/responds when ticked off.



Just in you saying, "his highness" indicates how arrogant you are.



I'd love to hear his side of this inflated story ... I'd wager most people in here would hide their posts once they realized that you're at fault for setting those conditions in which he was operating.

Just because someone yells "shoot me" dosen't mean ya gotta shoot em P

I have no clue what you mean by that.

she is responsible for how she taught him to treat her. If you think this is the first time she has come across this trait in him then you're very gullible and naïve.

You don't spend that much time with someone, being their mother and wiping their asses inbetween wash loads and not have experienced all of their traits, attitudes and views.

The mere fact that she's been through this before with him and forgave speaks volumes about who is at fault here.

Someone has to speak the truth ..... everyone else just wants to attack his character even though he isn't even here to speak for himself, and the only info they have is her jaded and pissed bitterness.

I can't believe people are in here making judgments on a person's character when they haven't even heard his truth.



How bizarre you people are. It's her responsibility to set the boundaries of what is acceptable to her. I mean doesn't anyone besides me even realize how many times she's made excuses for him in here? And for the mere fact that she's even in here giving it her attention and consideration is a clear indication that she's not wanting to be without him .. she's just wants to be validated.



I mean .... are you all really this stupid? .. and believe this post is about dropping an asshole out of her life?



rflmao

Yes you are correct this was not the first time he had thrown a fit but for things like me hiding my smoking from him and not to the extent that he chose to take it this time.

As for me defending him, I am looking for honest knowledgeable input from people. Do I miss him and feel like I can't breath? absolutely. Do I want to believe he is remorseful and willing and capable of change? Yes. Do I want to get in my car and drive to him right now? yes. I have self respect and self worth and I know that I nor anyone else deserves to be torn down.

This relationship is already doomed for failure. You're hiding things from him yet, blasting him for using you. Wth.

This is why I need to stay out of personal threads and stick to joking on ands or firebunny.

People ALWAYS leave out the parts where they're messing up

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Wth does this have to do with the topic at hand?? Y'all trying to find any excuse for this man.

Based on what I've read I wouldn't take him back. I can only speak for myself but as Aqua Sun Cap Venus I wouldn't say things that I know would cut deep unless I don't give a rat's ass about you.

Around those I love or want to deepen ties with I try to cool myself off and think before I react if I get upset. Though as perfect as I want to sound I still sometimes lose my cool but if I ever lose my temper towards someone I care about I'll still hold back and won't keep attacking like he did. I'll also apologize immediately if I felt I hurt them.

From what you wrote about what he said it seems he was trying to break you down. That's not OK and it sounds like he was being verbally and emotionally abusive. That's how insecure people try to maintain control over another.

I feel you did the right thing choosing to spend time with your daughter and if he can't understand your bond with her and can't sacrifice one Sunday with you, then maybe this relationship was already in trouble.

But, in the end only you can decide what is right for you and what you want to do.

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Posted by bkbella86

Sometimes but she's on point with this one.

She is.

But bitter, condescending mockery isn't going to do much good.

Several others said the same thing, including yourself-- and never

even came close to that exaggerated, self-gratifying crap she's so

fond of.

That's because this woman is old enough to have an 18 year old daughter, yet going about her relationship like a naive 20 year old. Did dude's laundry once, and he saw it as a free pass to have his laundry done like some college drop out living at home. lolwut territory there.

But hey, keep up with your ac/dc attitude toward me. Either you like me or don't. You flip flop a lot, so I take what you say with a grain of salt most of the time as well.

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Nah... I withhold comment a lot because I do

think you're a decent human being, at heart.

But ffs, stop shooting the wounded.

Save that razor-sharp tongue for the ones who

are truly worthy.

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Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by Ladi1975

Posted by P-Angel

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Posted by P-Angel
It looks to me that he operated within the established parameters that you set as acceptable.

You are the director of your life, and it doesn't look like you had any qualms with him until this incident.



I find it ignorant of you that you were so oblivious that you were so oblivious of him that you had no clue how he reacts/responds when ticked off.



Just in you saying, "his highness" indicates how arrogant you are.



I'd love to hear his side of this inflated story ... I'd wager most people in here would hide their posts once they realized that you're at fault for setting those conditions in which he was operating.

Just because someone yells "shoot me" dosen't mean ya gotta shoot em P

I have no clue what you mean by that.

she is responsible for how she taught him to treat her. If you think this is the first time she has come across this trait in him then you're very gullible and naïve.

You don't spend that much time with someone, being their mother and wiping their asses inbetween wash loads and not have experienced all of their traits, attitudes and views.

The mere fact that she's been through this before with him and forgave speaks volumes about who is at fault here.

Someone has to speak the truth ..... everyone else just wants to attack his character even though he isn't even here to speak for himself, and the only info they have is her jaded and pissed bitterness.

I can't believe people are in here making judgments on a person's character when they haven't even heard his truth.



How bizarre you people are. It's her responsibility to set the boundaries of what is acceptable to her. I mean doesn't anyone besides me even realize how many times she's made excuses for him in here? And for the mere fact that she's even in here giving it her attention and consideration is a clear indication that she's not wanting to be without him .. she's just wants to be validated.



I mean .... are you all really this stupid? .. and believe this post is about dropping an asshole out of her life?



rflmao

Yes you are correct this was not the first time he had thrown a fit but for things like me hiding my smoking from him and not to the extent that he chose to take it this time.

As for me defending him, I am looking for honest knowledgeable input from people. Do I miss him and feel like I can't breath? absolutely. Do I want to believe he is remorseful and willing and capable of change? Yes. Do I want to get in my car and drive to him right now? yes. I have self respect and self worth and I know that I nor anyone else deserves to be torn down.

This relationship is already doomed for failure. You're hiding things from him yet, blasting him for using you. Wth.

This is why I need to stay out of personal threads and stick to joking on ands or firebunny.

People ALWAYS leave out the parts where they're messing up

Wth does this have to do with the topic at hand?? Y'all trying to find any excuse for this man.

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It has everything to do with it

There was a second reply I was about to send, but had to leave for work. I have only partially explained his reactions, but not fully explained the meaning. In the meantime, the thread exploded and very few Aquas jumped in, because there is not much to add from their point of view. Anyway, it goes like this:

Posted by Ladi1975
This was today's email.

Over this last year we made so much progress. You have treated me better than anyone has, We had problems & ALWAYS Conquered every challenge. You make me want to be better at life. When you cut our weekend short to spend day in Boston infuriated me, so much so i got completely smashed i was crying & got cut off. That didn't stop me. You hurt me so i intended on making you feel as bad as i did. I had no RESPECT when i went on my rant. The next morning i forgot alot of my words. No excuses i made my bed. I have a feeling of being scared. I been crying, I'm ashamed because we came so very far & I'm a better personthan that. The silent treatment is getting me. I can't say shitt because all i had to do was relax & deal with Sober & calm. Your a Great person Awesome Friggin G.F & BEST FRIEND i probably ever had. Believe me I'm paying the price. I'm breaking down at work. I Love you Very much & my Life has changed because of your Love. Don't lose my # if you ever have a change of heart or need me I'll BE THERE. Please forgive me.Love you Leo Girl

What he wrote is 10000% true. He MEANT to hurt you, but he meant none of the words. Aquas need the first place. As selfish as it may sound, it is true. Your Aqua is traumatized by his past. Every hurtful action stabs a knife into his heart. His Pisces moon inflates this feeling and makes the negative emotions linger for a tremendous time. It is a sabotaging aspect for the current relationship. My Aqua man is the same and I showed him this thread, my first response and this response is based on his words also. Pisces moon is extremely sensitive and I sense it too, but I catch it up really fast (I am an empath) and I correct it. This is why I said you relationship is underdeveloped. You are doing a great job and working hard in taming him, but he is resilient. His rage was a cry from the past. His apologies are sincere.

Obviously, this behavior is not acceptable, but he won't repeat it again. He is aware that his actions are a self defense (read also self destruct - self sabotage) mechanism.

He keeps his guard up, but he shows his appreciation through facts. He is trying to gain trust in you, but this process is very long, reason for which he is superficial and not committed. Past hurt Aquarians are the most difficult. You are yet best friends, which is perfect, there is perspective, but are you prepared to mend such a shattered heart?

You can PM me if you want to discuss it further.

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calm down everyone. no one is perfect.

95% is close enough. stay positive 🙂

Totally agree. The problem here is he has trouble dealing with anger . Give him some silence moments . Maybe a few weeks. Express to him how hurtful it felt for you. how much words killed you. How it stabbed ur heart etc. if he truly loves u he will not do it again. ( hopefully) haha

If my man tells me I have chosen my son over him? I would reply. Hell yeah I have, that's the door.. no man comes above my kids. Sorry but true

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Totally agree. The problem here is he has trouble dealing with anger . Give him some silence moments . Maybe a few weeks. Express to him how hurtful it felt for you. how much words killed you. How it stabbed ur heart etc. if he truly loves u he will not do it again. ( hopefully) haha

Aquas are not impulsive. Resentments build up and then explode. He reacted much later and after long processing of his feelings (timewise, after leaving her place). Booze made it come up. He screwed up and he knows it. As I said, it's a sabotaging action and against his deep feelings for her.

I am not making excuses for him, I only expose what is going on in his heart. It's up to her if she can deal with this man.

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Posted by saweetz1988


Totally agree. The problem here is he has trouble dealing with anger . Give him some silence moments . Maybe a few weeks. Express to him how hurtful it felt for you. how much words killed you. How it stabbed ur heart etc. if he truly loves u he will not do it again. ( hopefully) haha

Aquas are not impulsive. Resentments build up and then explode. He reacted much later and after long processing of his feelings (timewise, after leaving her place). Booze made it come up. He screwed up and he knows it. As I said, it's a sabotaging action and against his deep feelings for her.

I am not making excuses for him, I only expose what is going on in his heart. It's up to her if she can deal with this man.

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This is very true, he will never fight with me in person. He once said he could never imagine fighting with me and be able to look me in the face. It's usually after several hours or even the next day. Most of it is also through text. In one of his emails he said that he can disassociate when he texts. Says he forgets that there is another person on the receiving end of his anger.

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Posted by saweetz1988


Totally agree. The problem here is he has trouble dealing with anger . Give him some silence moments . Maybe a few weeks. Express to him how hurtful it felt for you. how much words killed you. How it stabbed ur heart etc. if he truly loves u he will not do it again. ( hopefully) haha

Aquas are not impulsive. Resentments build up and then explode. He reacted much later and after long processing of his feelings (timewise, after leaving her place). Booze made it come up. He screwed up and he knows it. As I said, it's a sabotaging action and against his deep feelings for her.

I am not making excuses for him, I only expose what is going on in his heart. It's up to her if she can deal with this man.

This is very true, he will never fight with me in person. He once said he could never imagine fighting with me and be able to look me in the face. It's usually after several hours or even the next day. Most of it is also through text. In one of his emails he said that he can disassociate when he texts. Says he forgets that there is another person on the receiving end of his anger.

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PM me if you want. I value private life.

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Posted by saweetz1988


Totally agree. The problem here is he has trouble dealing with anger . Give him some silence moments . Maybe a few weeks. Express to him how hurtful it felt for you. how much words killed you. How it stabbed ur heart etc. if he truly loves u he will not do it again. ( hopefully) haha

Aquas are not impulsive. Resentments build up and then explode. He reacted much later and after long processing of his feelings (timewise, after leaving her place). Booze made it come up. He screwed up and he knows it. As I said, it's a sabotaging action and against his deep feelings for her.

I am not making excuses for him, I only expose what is going on in his heart. It's up to her if she can deal with this man.

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The Aqua man I noe when he's angry he will go into a silent and stubborn mode. No harsh words. I won't be able to tolerate harshful comments .

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Totally agree. The problem here is he has trouble dealing with anger . Give him some silence moments . Maybe a few weeks. Express to him how hurtful it felt for you. how much words killed you. How it stabbed ur heart etc. if he truly loves u he will not do it again. ( hopefully) haha

Aquas are not impulsive. Resentments build up and then explode. He reacted much later and after long processing of his feelings (timewise, after leaving her place). Booze made it come up. He screwed up and he knows it. As I said, it's a sabotaging action and against his deep feelings for her.

I am not making excuses for him, I only expose what is going on in his heart. It's up to her if she can deal with this man.

The Aqua man I noe when he's angry he will go into a silent and stubborn mode. No harsh words. I won't be able to tolerate harshful comments .

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Yeah. Mine prefers the passive-aggresive behavior, but I won't allow it. I disarm the "bomb" immediately. I know negative feelings harm him, so I don't allow them to build up.

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The fact that he has no one in his life ......

You don't know that.

Talking out of your ass makes you lose creditability.

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His apologies are sincere.

You don't know that.



people sure do love talking out of their asses, don't they.

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Posted by compy

His apologies are sincere.

You don't know that.



people sure do love talking out of their asses, don't they.

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I actually know.

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You are doing a great job and working hard in taming him .......

taming?

say what?

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Posted by compy

His apologies are sincere.

You don't know that.



people sure do love talking out of their asses, don't they.

I actually know.

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In reality, you have no fucking clue, unless you are him.

Please, make yourself look more foolish by talking out of your ass, while trying to convince people it's fact.



lol

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Posted by compy

You are doing a great job and working hard in taming him .......

taming?

say what?

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He is rebelling against everything he feels.

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You are doing a great job and working hard in taming him .......

taming?

say what?

He is rebelling against everything he feels.

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What a moron

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Posted by compy

His apologies are sincere.

You don't know that.



people sure do love talking out of their asses, don't they.

I actually know.

In reality, you have no fucking clue, unless you are him.

Please, make yourself look more foolish by talking out of your ass, while trying to convince people it's fact.



lol

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Wht would I want to look more foolish? It makes no sense. I am sorry for disturbing you. This topic is not about you, anyway, you are safe 🙂

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Posted by compy

You are doing a great job and working hard in taming him .......

taming?

say what?

He is rebelling against everything he feels.

What a moron

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Thank you for your kind words 🙂 I really do hope yoy have a great and fulfilling day 🙂

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The problem here Sultry is that you don't know what abuse is, so this convo is going over your head. OP said he made her feel the lowest she'd felt in life. That's nothing to play with or go back to.

And if you do, tell me who's projecting?

"You think the abuse is worth it for this imaginary connection. That couldn't even withstand a change of plans. That's some "connection"

Please don't put words in my mouth. Your reading comprehension is abysmal. And your projection is showing, you might want to have a look at that.

I'm reiterating what you have been saying that's all. Don't be mad.

I haven't seen anywhere where she's actually insinuated that she should stay. What she is saying (that I can see) is that it COULD POSSIBLY be salvaged. As in not just throwing something away because of one incident.

That is the same no? Why would you salvage anything with an abuser?

I don't know if I'd actually call him an abuser at this point. What I do think happened was he got spoiled, felt entitled and threw a fit to try and get his way. He felt robbed of his precious time. I also think he was testing her boundaries.

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He was being verbally abusive and the OP said this wasn't the first time he'd gotten like this. It's a little of both. You get the dude ego all spoiled as shit and it turns into some raving lunatic because entitlement. That's not something or someone to fret over and contemplate keeping around, sorry. Toxic as fuck. ESPECIALLY when she has a daughter involved and he's clearly shown he has issues "sharing" something that does not "belong" to him on any level.

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Posted by saweetz1988


Totally agree. The problem here is he has trouble dealing with anger . Give him some silence moments . Maybe a few weeks. Express to him how hurtful it felt for you. how much words killed you. How it stabbed ur heart etc. if he truly loves u he will not do it again. ( hopefully) haha

Aquas are not impulsive. Resentments build up and then explode. He reacted much later and after long processing of his feelings (timewise, after leaving her place). Booze made it come up. He screwed up and he knows it. As I said, it's a sabotaging action and against his deep feelings for her.

I am not making excuses for him, I only expose what is going on in his heart. It's up to her if she can deal with this man.

This is very true, he will never fight with me in person. He once said he could never imagine fighting with me and be able to look me in the face. It's usually after several hours or even the next day. Most of it is also through text. In one of his emails he said that he can disassociate when he texts. Says he forgets that there is another person on the receiving end of his anger.

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Red flag number four.

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The problem here Sultry is that you don't know what abuse is, so this convo is going over your head. OP said he made her feel the lowest she'd felt in life. That's nothing to play with or go back to.

And if you do, tell me who's projecting?

"You think the abuse is worth it for this imaginary connection. That couldn't even withstand a change of plans. That's some "connection"

Please don't put words in my mouth. Your reading comprehension is abysmal. And your projection is showing, you might want to have a look at that.

I'm reiterating what you have been saying that's all. Don't be mad.

I haven't seen anywhere where she's actually insinuated that she should stay. What she is saying (that I can see) is that it COULD POSSIBLY be salvaged. As in not just throwing something away because of one incident.

That is the same no? Why would you salvage anything with an abuser?

I don't know if I'd actually call him an abuser at this point. What I do think happened was he got spoiled, felt entitled and threw a fit to try and get his way. He felt robbed of his precious time. I also think he was testing her boundaries.

He was being verbally abusive and the OP said this wasn't the first time he'd gotten like this. It's a little of both. You get the dude ego all spoiled as shit and it turns into some raving lunatic because entitlement. That's not something or someone to fret over and contemplate keeping around, sorry. Toxic as fuck. ESPECIALLY when she has a daughter involved and he's clearly shown he has issues "sharing" something that does not "belong" to him on any level.

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And I get all that. Don't think I don't. I've already stated the above concerns. Don't think for a second that I'm enabling this behavior.

All I'm saying is that she said that 95% of the time he's amazing. I think if she actually puts her foot down and knocks this guy back to reality ( which I doubt will happen since she's already condoned this behavior in the past) it could still work.

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I'm sorry you went through this tho and I hate to sound harsh but this man never deserved your generosity.

That is exactly what my gf's say but it hurts just so damn much. You think you found your person and they are just a verbal abuser.

I went through the same epiphany with my ex, thought we would be together forever but then I met my now bf and he is soo much better then my ex. So what I'm saying is, hold on sistah there is a better guy out there for you who won't hurt you.

My ex sag was so very charming verbally and physically but he did not like me spending time with my mom, sisters, and even our own flesh and blood children. To me, it hurts more that he couldn't love anyone else except for me. Some people may think that's cute and all that he wants only me in this world but I think it's topnotch selfish.

That's what abusers do. They isolate you from your loved ones and your life before them.

I argued my way through every single time when I wanted girl time with my mom and sisters which happened no more than twice a year. He even had the audacity to call me a disobedient wife for arguing and wanting free time. I admit I stayed in the marriage because I confused it with love and I was confused when he treated me so sweet yet treated me this other way. I learned the hard way and I hope OP doesn't have to go through what I went through.

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Is he Scorpio moon by chance?

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I'm sorry you went through this tho and I hate to sound harsh but this man never deserved your generosity.

That is exactly what my gf's say but it hurts just so damn much. You think you found your person and they are just a verbal abuser.

I went through the same epiphany with my ex, thought we would be together forever but then I met my now bf and he is soo much better then my ex. So what I'm saying is, hold on sistah there is a better guy out there for you who won't hurt you.

My ex sag was so very charming verbally and physically but he did not like me spending time with my mom, sisters, and even our own flesh and blood children. To me, it hurts more that he couldn't love anyone else except for me. Some people may think that's cute and all that he wants only me in this world but I think it's topnotch selfish.

That's what abusers do. They isolate you from your loved ones and your life before them.

I argued my way through every single time when I wanted girl time with my mom and sisters which happened no more than twice a year. He even had the audacity to call me a disobedient wife for arguing and wanting free time. I admit I stayed in the marriage because I confused it with love and I was confused when he treated me so sweet yet treated me this other way. I learned the hard way and I hope OP doesn't have to go through what I went through.

Is he Scorpio moon by chance?

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Pisces Moon

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The problem here Sultry is that you don't know what abuse is, so this convo is going over your head. OP said he made her feel the lowest she'd felt in life. That's nothing to play with or go back to.

And if you do, tell me who's projecting?

"You think the abuse is worth it for this imaginary connection. That couldn't even withstand a change of plans. That's some "connection"

Please don't put words in my mouth. Your reading comprehension is abysmal. And your projection is showing, you might want to have a look at that.

I'm reiterating what you have been saying that's all. Don't be mad.

I haven't seen anywhere where she's actually insinuated that she should stay. What she is saying (that I can see) is that it COULD POSSIBLY be salvaged. As in not just throwing something away because of one incident.

That is the same no? Why would you salvage anything with an abuser?

I don't know if I'd actually call him an abuser at this point. What I do think happened was he got spoiled, felt entitled and threw a fit to try and get his way. He felt robbed of his precious time. I also think he was testing her boundaries.

He was being verbally abusive and the OP said this wasn't the first time he'd gotten like this. It's a little of both. You get the dude ego all spoiled as shit and it turns into some raving lunatic because entitlement. That's not something or someone to fret over and contemplate keeping around, sorry. Toxic as fuck. ESPECIALLY when she has a daughter involved and he's clearly shown he has issues "sharing" something that does not "belong" to him on any level.

And I get all that. Don't think I don't. I've already stated the above concerns. Don't think for a second that I'm enabling this behavior.

All I'm saying is that she said that 95% of the time he's amazing. I think if she actually puts her foot down and knocks this guy back to reality ( which I doubt will happen since she's already condoned this behavior in the past) it could still work.

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She also said this has happened before. Leo women are drawn to drama and tend to be doormats when they want to keep a dude around. They put on blinders to bad behavior until it gets unbearably bad.

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The problem here Sultry is that you don't know what abuse is, so this convo is going over your head. OP said he made her feel the lowest she'd felt in life. That's nothing to play with or go back to.

And if you do, tell me who's projecting?

"You think the abuse is worth it for this imaginary connection. That couldn't even withstand a change of plans. That's some "connection"

Please don't put words in my mouth. Your reading comprehension is abysmal. And your projection is showing, you might want to have a look at that.

I'm reiterating what you have been saying that's all. Don't be mad.

I haven't seen anywhere where she's actually insinuated that she should stay. What she is saying (that I can see) is that it COULD POSSIBLY be salvaged. As in not just throwing something away because of one incident.

That is the same no? Why would you salvage anything with an abuser?

I don't know if I'd actually call him an abuser at this point. What I do think happened was he got spoiled, felt entitled and threw a fit to try and get his way. He felt robbed of his precious time. I also think he was testing her boundaries.

He was being verbally abusive and the OP said this wasn't the first time he'd gotten like this. It's a little of both. You get the dude ego all spoiled as shit and it turns into some raving lunatic because entitlement. That's not something or someone to fret over and contemplate keeping around, sorry. Toxic as fuck. ESPECIALLY when she has a daughter involved and he's clearly shown he has issues "sharing" something that does not "belong" to him on any level.

And I get all that. Don't think I don't. I've already stated the above concerns. Don't think for a second that I'm enabling this behavior.

All I'm saying is that she said that 95% of the time he's amazing. I think if she actually puts her foot down and knocks this guy back to reality ( which I doubt will happen since she's already condoned this behavior in the past) it could still work.

She also said this has happened before. Leo women are drawn to drama and tend to be doormats when they want to keep a dude around. They put on blinders to bad behavior until it gets unbearably bad.

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Ok

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The fact that he has no one in his life ......

You don't know that.

Yeah read what she has written where she has quoted you.

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She doesn't know that either. She doesn't live with him. He comes over on weekends to get his dick wet, clothes washed and food for the week.

She has no clue what people he does or does not have in his life, except for the ones she has experienced.

She talks out of her ass, and then you follow suit and confirm it by saying something you have no clue if it's true.

What's really more disturbing than anything she has said or done is that she treats him like a child, while wanting to suck his dick. She has confirmed in the OP that she cares for him like a mother would ... and then wants to fuck him.

Who knows what kind of sick that is ... where you are so into fucking this person that you brag about being their porn star, while describing him as your child, in terms of how you care for him.

I dated an Aquarian and this hits too close to home...we were on an off a lot because he didn't want to give me the attention and affection I need in a relationship and each time he would come back to me 2 weeks later trying to make amends...i took him back each time and once when he broke it off with me took me back. I loved him so much and would have done anything to make him happy. I would help clean his room, be there for him when he needed support and give him massages almost every night to help him feel better since he was into lifting. I would try to please him every night too and then I found out certain things that hurt me...would express this which would lead to arguments but I seen a text between him and his best friend putting me down and that he revealed something personal about me...now he texts me sporadically, probably to try and get me back but even though I miss him at times I cannot bring myself to get hurt by him ever again.

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What's really more disturbing than anything she has said or done is that she treats him like a child, while wanting to suck his dick. She has confirmed in the OP that she cares for him like a mother would ... and then wants to fuck him.

Who knows what kind of sick that is ... where you are so into fucking this person that you brag about being their porn star, while describing him as your child, in terms of how you care for him.

For your information I never said I treat him like my mf child. I was making a point that I i've made him a priority in my life but he expected him to be my only priority. My family comes from a culture where you do for your man. It show that you love and care for them. You are the sick one to insinuate that was some incestuous behavior on my part.

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I'm sorry you went through this tho and I hate to sound harsh but this man never deserved your generosity.

That is exactly what my gf's say but it hurts just so damn much. You think you found your person and they are just a verbal abuser.

I went through the same epiphany with my ex, thought we would be together forever but then I met my now bf and he is soo much better then my ex. So what I'm saying is, hold on sistah there is a better guy out there for you who won't hurt you.

My ex sag was so very charming verbally and physically but he did not like me spending time with my mom, sisters, and even our own flesh and blood children. To me, it hurts more that he couldn't love anyone else except for me. Some people may think that's cute and all that he wants only me in this world but I think it's topnotch selfish.

That's what abusers do. They isolate you from your loved ones and your life before them.

I argued my way through every single time when I wanted girl time with my mom and sisters which happened no more than twice a year. He even had the audacity to call me a disobedient wife for arguing and wanting free time. I admit I stayed in the marriage because I confused it with love and I was confused when he treated me so sweet yet treated me this other way. I learned the hard way and I hope OP doesn't have to go through what I went through.

Is he Scorpio moon by chance?

His venus is in Scorpio though. Maybe that explains it. He got jealous very easily so I ended up not having any male friends to make him feel more secured. It didn't work...trust me on that!

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My ex husband (Aries sun/Scorp moon) did the same. He was jealous of time spent with any of our family members and at times our children, never mind any men. The day I decided to leave him felt like a ton had been lifted from my shoulders. There is definitely residual scarring that goes with you, but I'm glad we both made it out okay...

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you sound weak as FUK, MY children ALWAYS BEFORE A MAN

even my husband. FUK THAT ...and FUK his petulant retarded WEAK AZZ

oh and i don't have kids , but still

Ok I'm starting to regret ever asking for advice on here because all people can seem to do is put me mf down.

"you sound weak"

" doormat"

"sick"

If you read my original post I did chose my child over him!!!

Posted by P-Angel
What's really more disturbing than anything she has said or done is that she treats him like a child, while wanting to suck his dick. She has confirmed in the OP that she cares for him like a mother would ... and then wants to fuck him.

Who knows what kind of sick that is ... where you are so into fucking this person that you brag about being their porn star, while describing him as your child, in terms of how you care for him.

Lmfaooo!!

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I'm sorry you went through this tho and I hate to sound harsh but this man never deserved your generosity.

That is exactly what my gf's say but it hurts just so damn much. You think you found your person and they are just a verbal abuser.

I went through the same epiphany with my ex, thought we would be together forever but then I met my now bf and he is soo much better then my ex. So what I'm saying is, hold on sistah there is a better guy out there for you who won't hurt you.

My ex sag was so very charming verbally and physically but he did not like me spending time with my mom, sisters, and even our own flesh and blood children. To me, it hurts more that he couldn't love anyone else except for me. Some people may think that's cute and all that he wants only me in this world but I think it's topnotch selfish.

That's what abusers do. They isolate you from your loved ones and your life before them.

I argued my way through every single time when I wanted girl time with my mom and sisters which happened no more than twice a year. He even had the audacity to call me a disobedient wife for arguing and wanting free time. I admit I stayed in the marriage because I confused it with love and I was confused when he treated me so sweet yet treated me this other way. I learned the hard way and I hope OP doesn't have to go through what I went through.

Is he Scorpio moon by chance?

His venus is in Scorpio though. Maybe that explains it. He got jealous very easily so I ended up not having any male friends to make him feel more secured. It didn't work...trust me on that!

My ex husband (Aries sun/Scorp moon) did the same. He was jealous of time spent with any of our family members and at times our children, never mind any men. The day I decided to leave him felt like a ton had been lifted from my shoulders. There is definitely residual scarring that goes with you, but I'm glad we both made it out okay...

Sorry to hear you had to go through that too.

It's definitely a big weight lifted off my shoulders and the knowledge that I can never let that happen to me again.

My ex is with someone who controls his every move now...a scorpio. Funny how things work. Karma is real.

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What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, that's for certain. My ex married a Capricorn, she probably wears the pants as well!

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Posted by bkbella86
I'm sorry you went through this tho and I hate to sound harsh but this man never deserved your generosity.

That is exactly what my gf's say but it hurts just so damn much. You think you found your person and they are just a verbal abuser.

I went through the same epiphany with my ex, thought we would be together forever but then I met my now bf and he is soo much better then my ex. So what I'm saying is, hold on sistah there is a better guy out there for you who won't hurt you.

My ex sag was so very charming verbally and physically but he did not like me spending time with my mom, sisters, and even our own flesh and blood children. To me, it hurts more that he couldn't love anyone else except for me. Some people may think that's cute and all that he wants only me in this world but I think it's topnotch selfish.

That's what abusers do. They isolate you from your loved ones and your life before them.

I argued my way through every single time when I wanted girl time with my mom and sisters which happened no more than twice a year. He even had the audacity to call me a disobedient wife for arguing and wanting free time. I admit I stayed in the marriage because I confused it with love and I was confused when he treated me so sweet yet treated me this other way. I learned the hard way and I hope OP doesn't have to go through what I went through.

Is he Scorpio moon by chance?

His venus is in Scorpio though. Maybe that explains it. He got jealous very easily so I ended up not having any male friends to make him feel more secured. It didn't work...trust me on that!

My ex husband (Aries sun/Scorp moon) did the same. He was jealous of time spent with any of our family members and at times our children, never mind any men. The day I decided to leave him felt like a ton had been lifted from my shoulders. There is definitely residual scarring that goes with you, but I'm glad we both made it out okay...

Sorry to hear you had to go through that too.

It's definitely a big weight lifted off my shoulders and the knowledge that I can never let that happen to me again.

My ex is with someone who controls his every move now...a scorpio. Funny how things work. Karma is real.

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, that's for certain. My ex married a Capricorn, she probably wears the pants as well!

Aries and Capricorn, huh? Interesting. And I agree, the cap probably wears the pants.

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Oh she tries, and hers are bigger than his. There, I said it but I'm allowed to!

Update: We are currently on speaking terms and are just friends. He says he will do what ever it takes to prove to me that he can be the man I deserve. He started going to AA meetings a couple days after my original post. Meets with a sponsor couple times a week. It was through this sponsor that he was referred to an outpatient addiction specialist. Last week he started a treatment program where he is getting a once a month shot of vivatrol that helps curb his craving for alcohol. He Is currently looking for an anger management class that works with his work schedule. He truly is a good person who has a lot of work to do. I intend to be here for him and be his support but not a verbal punching bag.