Tempted to share my wild experience (Page 3)

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Posted by compy
He wouldn't force you on anything anyway. He observes you. If no such plans surface, they don't exist at all.

He's observing her to see if she's gf material or even long term at that but, I think he's starting to notice how much she wants to manage everything.

Aquas are fixed Air but we are still pretty laid back, we like to be in control of our own lives not someone else's. Like I notice my Taurus gf likes to control her whole environment including people in it and she plans out everything in her life.

Saweetz is trying to make him seem completely Pisces but he's not.. he is an aqua man WITH Pisces placements. It doesn't change the fact that he is fixed.

at least he has mutability. to mould and adapt to his environment.



however, i still find it strange that Robbie Williams who is a Quadruple 4 x Fixed, Sun, moon rising, and Mars. (Aqua sun, leo rising, Scorpio moon and Taurus mars) is with a Double fixed woman (taurus sun/aquarius moon wife) how the hell did that happen—

who is adapting to who?? 😕

i'm still kind of shocked....

Pretty full on .. lol I wouldn't date the man hahahahah

i wouldnt either...'i would be too scared...she's one BRAVE woman.

😆

i can imagine our house breaking down...

i'm dealing with taurus sun and leo moon and he can be very.....fixed too....

but it kind of work a little coz atlas fixed and fixed understand each other a little bit more...

but the fights wudb pretty intense

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i am with a double fixed but he's also virgo dominant and sag is his 4th domiannt.

if your man trusts your judgement, then like my man gives me some rein, because when a man trusts you, then he marries you and understands your judgment, like say what you say and what you do and how you act around others. that's the judgment we're talking about.

if i go on an astrology forum, i'm here for example to learn from others and also share my experiences,

because it's a community, and many are from all over the world..but still, being on a forum too, even if it's about gardening, you have to trust your own judgment. Like know not to break any laws that kind of thing.

same thing if we go to a foreign country, you have to be trusted to follow the law ect. you know what i mean? that's good judgment. follow the rules.

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Posted by compy
He wouldn't force you on anything anyway. He observes you. If no such plans surface, they don't exist at all.

He's observing her to see if she's gf material or even long term at that but, I think he's starting to notice how much she wants to manage everything.

Aquas are fixed Air but we are still pretty laid back, we like to be in control of our own lives not someone else's. Like I notice my Taurus gf likes to control her whole environment including people in it and she plans out everything in her life.

Saweetz is trying to make him seem completely Pisces but he's not.. he is an aqua man WITH Pisces placements. It doesn't change the fact that he is fixed.

at least he has mutability. to mould and adapt to his environment.



however, i still find it strange that Robbie Williams who is a Quadruple 4 x Fixed, Sun, moon rising, and Mars. (Aqua sun, leo rising, Scorpio moon and Taurus mars) is with a Double fixed woman (taurus sun/aquarius moon wife) how the hell did that happen—

who is adapting to who?? 😕

i'm still kind of shocked....

Pretty full on .. lol I wouldn't date the man hahahahah

i wouldnt either...'i would be too scared...she's one BRAVE woman.

😆

i can imagine our house breaking down...

i'm dealing with taurus sun and leo moon and he can be very.....fixed too....

but it kind of work a little coz atlas fixed and fixed understand each other a little bit more...

but the fights wudb pretty intense

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taurus usually have good judgment though. usually. not trying to put ya'll on pedastals.

just saying, reputation for good jugdment.



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this good judgment thing is reminding me of poor Otto Warmbier...

he went to a foreign country with other 100 plus people who are foriegn, and he was idealistic and didnt use his good judgmenet... 😢

poor guy, was also encouraged to get a propaganda poster. he really should have used good judgment.

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@saweetz1988

Actually I agree with CC to some extent..

After this watch his actions, he may seem chill for a while, but it will build up inside of him and he will show it when you least expect it like a ticking bomb.

If you're the type of girl who does too much and does extra all the time, that's not laid back. You don't go with the flow. You got in the back of his car to sneak on him, you make a several threads just about him, you ask a million questions about your man because you do not take the time to know him, instead you try to control the situation, now your doing all this swinger stuff?

Now is the time to step back, self reflect and ask yourself why he hasn't truly committed to you

Go with the flow! Thats how me and my Aqua ex got in a relationship after 3 mos of just being fwb. Lol

I understand the feeling of liking a guy and wanting to do all this crazy stuff with him but.. if his actions don't mix with his words.. stop, sit back, and let the feelings do their thing.

They're experiencing a fixed power struggle, he with her because he loves the intensity but he's not committed to her because he hates always having to fight to take the lead as the man. She's controlling and doesn't even know it.

yeah. Actually thats the best thing to do. Sit back, relax and see what happens. In fact, not taking to heart everything aqua guys do is a good way. Its frustrating to put meaning to everything. Because aquas change quite a lot. Like sweet one moment then go missing, or go cold etc.

Aquas like taking the lead but most of all in general, men like being the man in the relationship. Power struggle is not good in any relationship. Not saying women should always take a step back but its best to choose which parts the man should lead and which parts the woman should lead. Balance is the key.

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yes, exactly

and we always have a great balance in that esp in person.

i'm the most feminine little kiddie around and he always asked me

*whos the cutie— * and i always smile and put my hands up llol

so i don't think we have a problem in that...



when it comes to controlling of where we r heading.. yes i may be guilty of that.

but not anymore, i'm done with aqua chillingness lol

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@saweetz1988

Actually I agree with CC to some extent..

After this watch his actions, he may seem chill for a while, but it will build up inside of him and he will show it when you least expect it like a ticking bomb.

If you're the type of girl who does too much and does extra all the time, that's not laid back. You don't go with the flow. You got in the back of his car to sneak on him, you make a several threads just about him, you ask a million questions about your man because you do not take the time to know him, instead you try to control the situation, now your doing all this swinger stuff?

Now is the time to step back, self reflect and ask yourself why he hasn't truly committed to you

Thanks. It's all done now that whole sneaking on stuff. And yes doing self reflect.. I still don't think that whole experience is about me wanting contro.. what?!!!

No, you're not laid back, give it some time and you will soon create another post wondering about your aqua man.

haha...yes most likely..

surely you r not laid back with ur venus in scorpio placement?

by the way he's not my man....i am going to date other people now coz he says he's not going to stop flirting around so....

this is where we r at.. lol

I'm a Venus in Pisces,

All I'm saying is that with fixed/fixed relationship, someone has to lower their control level and there has to compromising for both.

One of the aqua men I met has venus in pisces. Mine is in cancer. Now i wonder how thats gonna work out!

My Venus in Pisces likes Venus in cancer, Scorpio, and Capricorn.

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we have no problem taking turn to lower our guard

infect,

he has been the best by far...

we always work as a team to each new experiences or everytime we meet

we always ask each other what we want and communicate extremely well

the best by far.

so plz don't go around thinking i'm bossing him around LOL its further from truth

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Posted by compy
He wouldn't force you on anything anyway. He observes you. If no such plans surface, they don't exist at all.

He's observing her to see if she's gf material or even long term at that but, I think he's starting to notice how much she wants to manage everything.

Aquas are fixed Air but we are still pretty laid back, we like to be in control of our own lives not someone else's. Like I notice my Taurus gf likes to control her whole environment including people in it and she plans out everything in her life.

Saweetz is trying to make him seem completely Pisces but he's not.. he is an aqua man WITH Pisces placements. It doesn't change the fact that he is fixed.

at least he has mutability. to mould and adapt to his environment.



however, i still find it strange that Robbie Williams who is a Quadruple 4 x Fixed, Sun, moon rising, and Mars. (Aqua sun, leo rising, Scorpio moon and Taurus mars) is with a Double fixed woman (taurus sun/aquarius moon wife) how the hell did that happen—

who is adapting to who?? 😕

i'm still kind of shocked....

Pretty full on .. lol I wouldn't date the man hahahahah

i wouldnt either...'i would be too scared...she's one BRAVE woman.

😆

i can imagine our house breaking down...

i'm dealing with taurus sun and leo moon and he can be very.....fixed too....

but it kind of work a little coz atlas fixed and fixed understand each other a little bit more...

but the fights wudb pretty intense

i am with a double fixed but he's also virgo dominant and sag is his 4th domiannt.

if your man trusts your judgement, then like my man gives me some rein, because when a man trusts you, then he marries you and understands your judgment, like say what you say and what you do and how you act around others. that's the judgment we're talking about.

if i go on an astrology forum, i'm here for example to learn from others and also share my experiences,

because it's a community, and many are from all over the world..but still, being on a forum too, even if it's about gardening, you have to trust your own judgment. Like know not to break any laws that kind of thing.

same thing if we go to a foreign country, you have to be trusted to follow the law ect. you know what i mean? that's good judgment. follow the rules.

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yes THIS

i think my aqua wanted me to lead so well coz he actually trust me and always say how great i am at reading people and stuff

he pretty much allowed me to take the lead..

almost forced me to take the lead that night...

which took me by surprise

even in the end we had a little communication negotiation of whether to go back to his place or my place

lol n he kept asking me..and I'm like u decide babe , i have to dominant my life all the time being a single mum so u tell me.. n he's like yes!!! thats what i do all the time too...so you tell me!!! ?? and I'm like urhhgghhhh what is going on with you today....

LOL

he was pretty much letting me make deicisonns the whole night and i struggled with it coz i wasn't used to it AT ALL n i think its all because i cancelled on my friend libra who was extremely bitchy and bossy and i really hate hanging around with people like that...

he must be scared lol

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And why the fuk do you keep bringing up pisces placements?

Pisces can be into swinger stuff

I see pisces way more into sheet like that than an aqua

truth

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wow this is interesting.

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Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
And why the fuk do you keep bringing up pisces placements?

Pisces can be into swinger stuff

I see pisces way more into sheet like that than an aqua

truth

wow this is interesting.

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Are you a sociopath?

They never own up to their mistake and never see themselves being wrong and they have no faults.

And you letting him drive your car is printed in my brain!

What else did you 'let' him do?

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Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
And why the fuk do you keep bringing up pisces placements?

Pisces can be into swinger stuff

I see pisces way more into sheet like that than an aqua

truth

wow this is interesting.

Are you a sociopath?

They never own up to their mistake and never see themselves being wrong and they have no faults.

And you letting him drive your car is printed in my brain!

What else did you 'let' him do?

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Lol you are hilarious. my car is a brand new car which I need for me n my baby. It's an asset. I like your assumptions like u know me deeply. I am indeed a socialpath who help others and improve on herself on a daily basis. I actually help others in my career. but hey I don't need to prove me to anyone .. 😉 also I am a socialpath who cook and pack up for my man lunches when he has no time... mmm how's that for a socialpath? Also I tear up n cry infront of him too... wait maybe there were fake tears

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Posted by Gemitati

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Posted by starwars

Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
And why the fuk do you keep bringing up pisces placements?

Pisces can be into swinger stuff

I see pisces way more into sheet like that than an aqua

truth

wow this is interesting.

Are you a sociopath?

They never own up to their mistake and never see themselves being wrong and they have no faults.

And you letting him drive your car is printed in my brain!

What else did you 'let' him do?

Lol you are hilarious. my car is a brand new car which I need for me n my baby. It's an asset. I like your assumptions like u know me deeply. I am indeed a socialpath who help others and improve on herself on a daily basis. I actually help others in my career. but hey I don't need to prove me to anyone .. 😉 also I am a socialpath who cook and pack up for my man lunches when he has no time... mmm how's that for a socialpath? Also I tear up n cry infront of him too... wait maybe there were fake tears

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My friends sociopath ex reared up all the time because they play no fault victims all the time. 'Poor innocent me, basically perfect but highly misunderstood' ?

And you have no faults according to you!

So far you refuses every one who is telling you anything because you can't admit nothing. You are perfect! In your own eyes. And no, I don't know you deeply.

Thanks God! ?

I am glad man got away in one piece! —

Haha I always admit faults n the first one to seek help and improvement on a daily basis...😉 when did I say I have no faults? I must b a sociopath coz all my exs come back to me all the time lol. Any how, lets roll.

Posted by LadySagita
You keep giving him reasons to not settle with you, basically..

Yay possibly . Oh well

I think I'm doing it on purpose.. maybe to test the crap out of him lol... to see if after all these he will stay... perhaps it's all subconscious. Who knows..

Geographically close.. would 1 hr drive away count is checked? lol

Good manners, moral and personality... checked

Psychologically stable.. checked

Smart.. checked

Respect her parents and mine.. checked



i like the list

thank you

its like this his fav sentence

* babe if it makes u happy do it,, *

but he doens't mean that, normally he will see if i will go ahead with it or not...and if i did and he doesn't like that idea..i will get a minus.. .lol

but i think i been kind of ok.. i just wish now we never did this swinger party thing lol

Atleast i wasn't with any man...pffff

i wil learn from now on to NEVER trust their words, but the intention behind those words..

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Geographically close.. would 1 hr drive away count is checked? lol

Good manners, moral and personality... checked

Psychologically stable.. checked

Smart.. checked

Respect her parents and mine.. checked



i like the list

thank you

Serial cheater.. checked 😐

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its like this his fav sentence

* babe if it makes u happy do it,, *

but he doens't mean that, normally he will see if i will go ahead with it or not...and if i did and he doesn't like that idea..i will get a minus.. .lol

but i think i been kind of ok.. i just wish now we never did this swinger party thing lol

Atleast i wasn't with any man...pffff

i wil learn from now on to NEVER trust their words, but the intention behind those words..

hmmm 🤔

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its like this his fav sentence

* babe if it makes u happy do it,, *

but he doens't mean that, normally he will see if i will go ahead with it or not...and if i did and he doesn't like that idea..i will get a minus.. .lol

but i think i been kind of ok.. i just wish now we never did this swinger party thing lol

Atleast i wasn't with any man...pffff

i wil learn from now on to NEVER trust their words, but the intention behind those words..

You been on a swinger with him? ?



Mannn... i dont know really.. all aquas I know including the male bestfriend I told you about had a wild past but are VERY conservative ( i used to tease them being very orthodox ??) when it comes to picking a partner they want to settle down with..

They'd usually date here and there until they found the one that fit their checklist, and.. will do it differently with them.. my bestfriend suddenly went into being a saint when he met his current fianceè and they never had sex until his parents had proposed to her parents.. he said i dont want to stain her.



But before that.. you also need to know that they've been dating for 6 months, in a relationship since his senior year in college approx 6 years ago, engaged for 1 year. They take their sweet ass time calculating this.. not sure if you want to wait that long ?

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Wowowww thanks for sharing.. yeah well he's def not a saint... but anyway, the party was supposed to b for his graduation present and I was a little bit reluctant at first but he wanted to try it n we both did so we decided to go in there n try our first experience toghee.. turns out he can't get it up so yes now I know he's a lot more conservative than what he lets on lol.... he's very sweet and caring in person though give me a piggy back n all lol. But yeah, I don't think I can wait that long.. I am taking the exist route n will b chatting n dating other men now....

Posted by LadySagita
And... very dominant

The girl was a danncer before he met her. Quit because he's not a fan of seeing his woman's figure being watched by other guys..

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Yes exactly . That's why I will never trust his words again lol... he says I can do one thing but act the other way. It's quiet annoying .. but anyway, i don't really know what to do from here am I supposed to date around or what lol

Also I notice his conservative side like when I send him a little bit naughty he wudnt really respond like he doesn't like it lol.... but in person he's like a blooody lion so yes def contradicting

How do I request to delete this thread lol

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Posted by LadySagita
And... very dominant

The girl was a danncer before he met her. Quit because he's not a fan of seeing his woman's figure being watched by other guys..

?

Yes exactly . That's why I will never trust his words again lol... he says I can do one thing but act the other way. It's quiet annoying .. but anyway, i don't really know what to do from here am I supposed to date around or what lol

Just explore your options. If he doesnt want any exclusivity it means you're also an option and he shouldnt mind being your option as well.. but keep it on the low..



I wouldnt want to wait for someone to make up their minds that long.. there's a 50:50 chance they're not the one. I wouldnt gamble on the 50 if I hv no certainty if I were you.. lol ??

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Yeah thank you I wil do that. I notice Aqua take their ass time to decide the perfect potential partner.. but I'm sure their final decision is on point.. not like many other others signs that jump straight into relationships n suffer coz they don't have any checklist n just go with the feelings lol..

Posted by saweetz1988
How do I request to delete this thread lol

Well before you delete, I'll throw in my two cents. I believe @-Flo- and @sultrykitty hit it on the head. It seems you are confused by what Flo means by "control" so I'll try to elaborate for you. (Sorry this is going to be long...and possibly repetitive.)

I think that the Aqua guy was open to "thinking" about the idea and "observing" the swinger party but not was not actually interested in participating. Aquas are very cerebral and can feel detached from the human experience, especially when dealing with the intricacies of emotions. So for an Aqua they tend to learn through observation. I applaud you on your open mindedness in this situation. Aquas like to know that they won't be judged, but more so they want a partner who will not judge their thoughts. This is because Aquas are rebels. An Aqua may say something, then go against the grain and do something else the next day (this an overexaggeration, but just follow me on this).

For an Aqua they want to know their partner's mind inside and out. They also want to know that you understand them inside and out. They want a partner they can be completely open and "safe" with. This is not unlike a Tauruses need for "comfort". It is in this way that an Aqua wishes to own their partner's mind (since all fixed signs want to "own" some part of their partner). So again when the Aqua said he was curious about swinger parties, that was about it. He probably only needed to talk/debate about the idea with you (mental stimulation) because again Aquas are rebellious/fringe ny nature. They like saying crazy things to see how people will react. That's as far as it needed to go though.

I say this for two reasons. First, Aquas and Leos are two sides of the same coin. As opposites we have the same emotional needs deep down, but we have COMPLETELY different ways about going about getting those needs fulfilled. Leos can be conservative/old fahsioned when it comes to how we approach romance and love, so it's no suprise that Aquas can have that same trait as well. It's just confusing because Aquas tend to appear more aloof than they actually are. A Leo will directly express en emotion that an Aqua won't, while an Aqua will express a thought that a Leo won't. Just know in each sign, there is a bit of the other.

Second, as many have already pointed out, he was not erect. If a guy is comfortable, he'll have no issue being noticeably aroused. Since he wasn't, it definitely shows that he was not comfortable. That's the REAL point of all of this. An Aqua needs to feel 100% comfortable with their partner. The Aqua in him is too proud (like a Leo) to outright state his discomfort though because again Aquas are very logical. He KNOWS that this was his idea and in the moment he realized he bit off more than he could chew. Also remember that his Pisces placements mean he will go with the flow and be a pleaser at times. So when you jumped on the idea, his rebellious nature kicked in and he decided to go with it. This thought process however conflicted with his actual emotions in the moment though.

The reason why some Flo is saying that you are "controlling" is because Tauruses tend to be more physical creatures. So much so that you completely missed that the idea of the swingers party was just that, an idea. It wasn't meant to go further than that really. At least it wasn't supposed to be something he would actually participate in, but instead would have been happy to observe (with popcorn perhaps).

Tauruses (like Leos) can be a bit heavy handed in your approach. So for you the idea needed to be acted upon. It needed to be taken out of the mental realm and brought into physical existence. For you that only makes sense right? How else does one realize an idea if not by making it a reality?

In his mind though that wasn't the case. The moment you could tell he was not actually aroused, was the moment you should have left. As you mentioned he was letting YOU lead, when he normally is the leader. That's because he was overwhelmed and not comfortable going beyond being a "voyeur". Honestly I don't think it was necessary for you to even participate. It was all meant for observation. You seem to have missed that subtle cue though (and possibly others), which is why @Flo is saying you are controlling.

Aquas are a fixed sign just like Taurus. Deep down the needs are very similar. However Aqua is an air sign as well and does not express itself readily though physical and emotional displays. Words and thoughts (certain mental cues) can be very important when trying to read an Aqua. An Aqua wants to know that they can throw their mental madness at you and you will remain steady. That you understand it's just thoughts (which sometimes can result in action, but every Aqua is different).

Also remember Aquas deep down can be very conservative about their approach. From my observation, Aquas can be just as possessive of their partners as Leos when they are truly in love. In which case Aqua won't necessarily want another partner in the bedroom, but may talk about the idea openly regardless. This can become very confusing if you're not prepared for their mental gymnastics, which in reality is also a test of your character.

So my concern is that while the Aqua SAYS (and may even THINK) that he was ok at the swinger party, his inner emotions (that remember are very akin to a Leo's) will feel otherwise. Aqua emotions run DEEP. So if he feels off about the situation, that's not going to go away. Additionally with all of those Pisces placements, his thoughts will be at the mercy of his feelings too, even if he doesn't say this outwardly to you. Watch for any noticeable changes in his actions towards you. If he suddenly becomes unavailable (more than normal) for no reason, there may be an issue.

Again, I applaud you on your open mindedness, but I think the Aqua may have a certain "perception" of you due to this experience. He may not feel like you're girlfriend material and therefore is unwilling to commit to you. Oddly enough he may be waiting for a woman with a more conservative mindset. The reason being is, Aquas (especially the males) still crave some tradition, especially because they may have not had it growing up. That's not to say this particular situation will throw your thing out of whack, but as a guy it's fairly clear that he was uncomfortable.

As to your other question regarding the piggyback ride etc, I think he wanted to save face. I think he was thinking through eerything and trying not to make it a big deal. Again he KNOWS this was all his idea. Just the fact that he had to apologize for his lack of arousal (as a guy) made me cringe a bit.

well aqua is also saturn ruled, which is a conservative energy. (saturn)

and also dark side of saturn is tyranny. and cruelty.

but i think maybe that is uranus? i'm not sure. maybe that is a cappy trait. but if they have taurus, it seems super gentle and sweet. Look at Hitler. Taurus sun/Cappy moon. the tyranny is there. it's powerful. it's megamania, but everyone saw the Libra rising and Taurus sun, so sweet and lovable, and believably endearing, then the tyranny and harshness of capricorn.

i dont think he has any aquarius though but he did have 11th house.

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And... very dominant

The girl was a danncer before he met her. Quit because he's not a fan of seeing his woman's figure being watched by other guys..

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Yes exactly . That's why I will never trust his words again lol... he says I can do one thing but act the other way. It's quiet annoying .. but anyway, i don't really know what to do from here am I supposed to date around or what lol

Just explore your options. If he doesnt want any exclusivity it means you're also an option and he shouldnt mind being your option as well.. but keep it on the low..



I wouldnt want to wait for someone to make up their minds that long.. there's a 50:50 chance they're not the one. I wouldnt gamble on the 50 if I hv no certainty if I were you.. lol ??

Yeah thank you I wil do that. I notice Aqua take their ass time to decide the perfect potential partner.. but I'm sure their final decision is on point.. not like many other others signs that jump straight into relationships n suffer coz they don't have any checklist n just go with the feelings lol..

Hahahhahaa.. ? true.. what' s ur sign btw? Must be a water or earth sign?

Never trust and gamble the freedom an aqua or an aqua placement give you.. i do that to test people too w/o them knowing ?

The reason behind that is, only when you give someone so much freedom, they start to show their true color. And by that you will also know if they hv boundaries or not and whether that boundaries will fit you. You can do that to him too.. but it'll eat you up alive if you have a lot of feelings.. gotta disappear and detach first ??

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Yes that's exactly what I was doing to him.. maybe we were testing each other at the swingers club lol... I have an earth Taurus.. moon in Aqua, venus in gem , mars in Aqua and mercury in Aqua hahaha. Yesterday he asked me * how u doing babe ? * I replied * good and you? * and he's like .* I'm good babe * then that's it lol. I'm planning to detach for a while now while I figure out what to do about this creature lol

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Posted by saweetz1988
How do I request to delete this thread lol

Well before you delete, I'll throw in my two cents. I believe @-Flo- and @sultrykitty hit it on the head. It seems you are confused by what Flo means by "control" so I'll try to elaborate for you. (Sorry this is going to be long...and possibly repetitive.)

I think that the Aqua guy was open to "thinking" about the idea and "observing" the swinger party but not was not actually interested in participating. Aquas are very cerebral and can feel detached from the human experience, especially when dealing with the intricacies of emotions. So for an Aqua they tend to learn through observation. I applaud you on your open mindedness in this situation. Aquas like to know that they won't be judged, but more so they want a partner who will not judge their thoughts. This is because Aquas are rebels. An Aqua may say something, then go against the grain and do something else the next day (this an overexaggeration, but just follow me on this).

For an Aqua they want to know their partner's mind inside and out. They also want to know that you understand them inside and out. They want a partner they can be completely open and "safe" with. This is not unlike a Tauruses need for "comfort". It is in this way that an Aqua wishes to own their partner's mind (since all fixed signs want to "own" some part of their partner). So again when the Aqua said he was curious about swinger parties, that was about it. He probably only needed to talk/debate about the idea with you (mental stimulation) because again Aquas are rebellious/fringe ny nature. They like saying crazy things to see how people will react. That's as far as it needed to go though.

I say this for two reasons. First, Aquas and Leos are two sides of the same coin. As opposites we have the same emotional needs deep down, but we have COMPLETELY different ways about going about getting those needs fulfilled. Leos can be conservative/old fahsioned when it comes to how we approach romance and love, so it's no suprise that Aquas can have that same trait as well. It's just confusing because Aquas tend to appear more aloof than they actually are. A Leo will directly express en emotion that an Aqua won't, while an Aqua will express a thought that a Leo won't. Just know in each sign, there is a bit of the other.

Second, as many have already pointed out, he was not erect. If a guy is comfortable, he'll have no issue being noticeably aroused. Since he wasn't, it definitely shows that he was not comfortable. That's the REAL point of all of this. An Aqua needs to feel 100% comfortable with their partner. The Aqua in him is too proud (like a Leo) to outright state his discomfort though because again Aquas are very logical. He KNOWS that this was his idea and in the moment he realized he bit off more than he could chew. Also remember that his Pisces placements mean he will go with the flow and be a pleaser at times. So when you jumped on the idea, his rebellious nature kicked in and he decided to go with it. This thought process however conflicted with his actual emotions in the moment though.

The reason why some Flo is saying that you are "controlling" is because Tauruses tend to be more physical creatures. So much so that you completely missed that the idea of the swingers party was just that, an idea. It wasn't meant to go further than that really. At least it wasn't supposed to be something he would actually participate in, but instead would have been happy to observe (with popcorn perhaps).

Tauruses (like Leos) can be a bit heavy handed in your approach. So for you the idea needed to be acted upon. It needed to be taken out of the mental realm and brought into physical existence. For you that only makes sense right? How else does one realize an idea if not by making it a reality?

In his mind though that wasn't the case. The moment you could tell he was not actually aroused, was the moment you should have left. As you mentioned he was letting YOU lead, when he normally is the leader. That's because he was overwhelmed and not comfortable going beyond being a "voyeur". Honestly I don't think it was necessary for you to even participate. It was all meant for observation. You seem to have missed that subtle cue though (and possibly others), which is why @Flo is saying you are controlling.

Aquas are a fixed sign just like Taurus. Deep down the needs are very similar. However Aqua is an air sign as well and does not express itself readily though physical and emotional displays. Words and thoughts (certain mental cues) can be very important when trying to read an Aqua. An Aqua wants to know that they can throw their mental madness at you and you will remain steady. That you understand it's just thoughts (which sometimes can result in action, but every Aqua is different).

Also remember Aquas deep down can be very conservative about their approach. From my observation, Aquas can be just as possessive of their partners as Leos when they are truly in love. In which case Aqua won't necessarily want another partner in the bedroom, but may talk about the idea openly regardless. This can become very confusing if you're not prepared for their mental gymnastics, which in reality is also a test of your character.

So my concern is that while the Aqua SAYS (and may even THINK) that he was ok at the swinger party, his inner emotions (that remember are very akin to a Leo's) will feel otherwise. Aqua emotions run DEEP. So if he feels off about the situation, that's not going to go away. Additionally with all of those Pisces placements, his thoughts will be at the mercy of his feelings too, even if he doesn't say this outwardly to you. Watch for any noticeable changes in his actions towards you. If he suddenly becomes unavailable (more than normal) for no reason, there may be an issue.

Again, I applaud you on your open mindedness, but I think the Aqua may have a certain "perception" of you due to this experience. He may not feel like you're girlfriend material and therefore is unwilling to commit to you. Oddly enough he may be waiting for a woman with a more conservative mindset. The reason being is, Aquas (especially the males) still crave some tradition, especially because they may have not had it growing up. That's not to say this particular situation will throw your thing out of whack, but as a guy it's fairly clear that he was uncomfortable.

As to your other question regarding the piggyback ride etc, I think he wanted to save face. I think he was thinking through eerything and trying not to make it a big deal. Again he KNOWS this was all his idea. Just the fact that he had to apologize for his lack of arousal (as a guy) made me cringe a bit.

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WOW thank you so much for your very long explanation... that makes things a lot CLEAR for me...

ok we both wanted to try and observe.. and the idea of the swingers was yes his idea and to be honest..there was alot of cancelling and not so sure from my part....

but we had a fight about me keeping my words so i had to stick with it..

even 2 nights before i askedh im * like...are you going to be sexing another girl infront of me? because i need to be mentally prepared? and hes like yes babe thats the idea of a swinger ....* andi 'm like ...* ok....then i'm like, and u wont b mad or feel hurt if i sex with another guy infron of u ? * and he's like * again thats the idea babe its to see how we will feel about it *...

so that was his answer so i went with it eventhough i wasn't ok or happy but i forced my mind to be PREPARED coz it sounded to me that he didn't care... lol...ofcoz the actions shown other wise..

during the night, we both we very nervous yes and i was the run of the show.. i didn't have sex with any guy..or girl but in the end yes....i did pretty much go to the hot girl we both liked and jumped in... haha i didn't sex with any guy or anything but i know its his true fantasy to see me with another girl..or whatever... but that was all we did together....i didin't sex with a man...he didn't kiss a girl.. he just kissed her boobs lol....

then we had sex just the two of us and it was rocking.. haha

and since the party,...he was even sweeter than normal... like truly sweet and pretty much said sorry to be the whole entire time !!! and i told him... * no babe its ok, its kind of sweet lol *

..that was us that night.. he then drove me home and caught and uber back...

during our romance talk moments at this place.. i asked if he can stop flirting with all the girls online i know he says hes not sleeping with them..but hes like.. no babe i can't coz i'm not ready for a girlfriend...dah dee dah dee dah..then i'm like ok.. and he spent another 2 hours talking and wudn't let me go while i try to detach and get away lol...

its like a typical game he plays or something..

anyhow, on the way back i asked him about his past babes but he kept mentioning about his ex griflriends....so in a way, he acts like i'm his girlfriend yet sometimes scared of the topic...

he also tells people we r dating...

so god knows what goes on in that head and i'm tired of figuring that out hehe

my moon in aqua is exhausted....

he also said we have emotional connection... lol whatever that means...

since then i am the one who decide i can't b an option anymore u know...i'm kind of exhausted about it...

but what do u think i shud do?

is he testing me again to c if i will go n f around?

aqua brain is insane.. and u r right, whats the point of the idea if its not put into action HAHAHAHA

thank god its not our thing at all....

thank you for your input i truly appreciate it....

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Also remember Aquas deep down can be very conservative about their approach. From my observation, Aquas can be just as possessive of their partners as Leos when they are truly in love. In which case Aqua won't necessarily want another partner in the bedroom, but may talk about the idea openly regardless. This can become very confusing if you're not prepared for their mental gymnastics, which in reality is also a test of your character.

- this. My ex and I were talking about going to a sex club or doing a threesome. Me being a gemini (with Leo moon) and him being an Aqua, ended up discussing the possibilities but never acted on it ? He said he wouldnt be comfortable seeing another guy do it with me. Haha. And well, I was the same. We ended up just watching porn thinking we are with another couple doing it in the same room. Creative isnt it? —

ahhahah exactly

see that wud have been much better

and since that night me and him truly agree its not OUR thing at all..

none of us got turned on

which is prob good...hopefully i passed the test lol

wel i liked the girl but that was it

seeing naked people walking around sexing around us didn't turn us on at all

i have eros in pisces and his has eros in pisces and i need intimate sex too...

but hey we had the hottest sex when we got back :p

i dont think we will do it again lol

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WOW thank you so much for your very long explanation... that makes things a lot CLEAR for me...

ok we both wanted to try and observe.. and the idea of the swingers was yes his idea and to be honest..there was alot of cancelling and not so sure from my part....

but we had a fight about me keeping my words so i had to stick with it..

even 2 nights before i askedh im * like...are you going to be sexing another girl infront of me? because i need to be mentally prepared? and hes like yes babe thats the idea of a swinger ....* andi 'm like ...* ok....then i'm like, and u wont b mad or feel hurt if i sex with another guy infron of u ? * and he's like * again thats the idea babe its to see how we will feel about it *...

so that was his answer so i went with it eventhough i wasn't ok or happy but i forced my mind to be PREPARED coz it sounded to me that he didn't care... lol...ofcoz the actions shown other wise..

during the night, we both we very nervous yes and i was the run of the show.. i didn't have sex with any guy..or girl but in the end yes....i did pretty much go to the hot girl we both liked and jumped in... haha i didn't sex with any guy or anything but i know its his true fantasy to see me with another girl..or whatever... but that was all we did together....i didin't sex with a man...he didn't kiss a girl.. he just kissed her boobs lol....

then we had sex just the two of us and it was rocking.. haha

and since the party,...he was even sweeter than normal... like truly sweet and pretty much said sorry to be the whole entire time !!! and i told him... * no babe its ok, its kind of sweet lol *

..that was us that night.. he then drove me home and caught and uber back...

during our romance talk moments at this place.. i asked if he can stop flirting with all the girls online i know he says hes not sleeping with them..but hes like.. no babe i can't coz i'm not ready for a girlfriend...dah dee dah dee dah..then i'm like ok.. and he spent another 2 hours talking and wudn't let me go while i try to detach and get away lol...

its like a typical game he plays or something..

anyhow, on the way back i asked him about his past babes but he kept mentioning about his ex griflriends....so in a way, he acts like i'm his girlfriend yet sometimes scared of the topic...

he also tells people we r dating...

so god knows what goes on in that head and i'm tired of figuring that out hehe

my moon in aqua is exhausted....

he also said we have emotional connection... lol whatever that means...

since then i am the one who decide i can't b an option anymore u know...i'm kind of exhausted about it...

but what do u think i shud do?

is he testing me again to c if i will go n f around?

aqua brain is insane.. and u r right, whats the point of the idea if its not put into action HAHAHAHA

thank god its not our thing at all....

thank you for your input i truly appreciate it....

Knowing that informaiton, it sounds to me that you actually passed his test. Sounds like he's a little too rebellious, even for his own mind. The fact that he talked up this whole thing, but wasn't prepared for the reality of the swinger's party shows that he probaby bites off more than he can chew.

You going through this probably sent a very real signal to his brain that you can push the limit as well. To be fair, the whole thing may have even turned him on, but I will suggest not getting too emotionally wrapped up in this guy. His excuse as to why he "can't" stop flirting with random women online is nonsense.. Sounds like he's just another boy who is afraid of commitent. Just let him know that you like him and it hurts you when he flirts with other women. If he likes having you around, he can't be willing to cause you pain. (Also let's not forget that you're having sex with him.)

If he's dumb enough to let you go, that's his problem. If he cares about you, he'll come running back the moment a new man enters your life.

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And why the fuk do you keep bringing up pisces placements?

Pisces can be into swinger stuff

I see pisces way more into sheet like that than an aqua

truth

wow this is interesting.

Are you a sociopath?

They never own up to their mistake and never see themselves being wrong and they have no faults.

And you letting him drive your car is printed in my brain!

What else did you 'let' him do?

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Wait what...he's driving her car??

What did I say in that other thread?? Be useful to them and they will be around forever.

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Posted by saweetz1988
WOW thank you so much for your very long explanation... that makes things a lot CLEAR for me...

ok we both wanted to try and observe.. and the idea of the swingers was yes his idea and to be honest..there was alot of cancelling and not so sure from my part....

but we had a fight about me keeping my words so i had to stick with it..

even 2 nights before i askedh im * like...are you going to be sexing another girl infront of me? because i need to be mentally prepared? and hes like yes babe thats the idea of a swinger ....* andi 'm like ...* ok....then i'm like, and u wont b mad or feel hurt if i sex with another guy infron of u ? * and he's like * again thats the idea babe its to see how we will feel about it *...

so that was his answer so i went with it eventhough i wasn't ok or happy but i forced my mind to be PREPARED coz it sounded to me that he didn't care... lol...ofcoz the actions shown other wise..

during the night, we both we very nervous yes and i was the run of the show.. i didn't have sex with any guy..or girl but in the end yes....i did pretty much go to the hot girl we both liked and jumped in... haha i didn't sex with any guy or anything but i know its his true fantasy to see me with another girl..or whatever... but that was all we did together....i didin't sex with a man...he didn't kiss a girl.. he just kissed her boobs lol....

then we had sex just the two of us and it was rocking.. haha

and since the party,...he was even sweeter than normal... like truly sweet and pretty much said sorry to be the whole entire time !!! and i told him... * no babe its ok, its kind of sweet lol *

..that was us that night.. he then drove me home and caught and uber back...

during our romance talk moments at this place.. i asked if he can stop flirting with all the girls online i know he says hes not sleeping with them..but hes like.. no babe i can't coz i'm not ready for a girlfriend...dah dee dah dee dah..then i'm like ok.. and he spent another 2 hours talking and wudn't let me go while i try to detach and get away lol...

its like a typical game he plays or something..

anyhow, on the way back i asked him about his past babes but he kept mentioning about his ex griflriends....so in a way, he acts like i'm his girlfriend yet sometimes scared of the topic...

he also tells people we r dating...

so god knows what goes on in that head and i'm tired of figuring that out hehe

my moon in aqua is exhausted....

he also said we have emotional connection... lol whatever that means...

since then i am the one who decide i can't b an option anymore u know...i'm kind of exhausted about it...

but what do u think i shud do?

is he testing me again to c if i will go n f around?

aqua brain is insane.. and u r right, whats the point of the idea if its not put into action HAHAHAHA

thank god its not our thing at all....

thank you for your input i truly appreciate it....

Knowing that informaiton, it sounds to me that you actually passed his test. Sounds like he's a little too rebellious, even for his own mind. The fact that he talked up this whole thing, but wasn't prepared for the reality of the swinger's party shows that he probaby bites off more than he can chew.

You going through this probably sent a very real signal to his brain that you can push the limit as well. To be fair, the whole thing may have even turned him on, but I will suggest not getting too emotionally wrapped up in this guy. His excuse as to why he "can't" stop flirting with random women online is nonsense.. Sounds like he's just another boy who is afraid of commitent. Just let him know that you like him and it hurts you when he flirts with other women. If he likes having you around, he can't be willing to cause you pain. (Also let's not forget that you're having sex with him.)

If he's dumb enough to let you go, that's his problem. If he cares about you, he'll come running back the moment a new man enters your life.

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Yeah thank u so much... at the end of the night he asked me what size shirt I wear n tugged me to sleep lol... though I made up my mind that unless I'm no1. I won't have sex with him again... n after 7 months of being loyal to him it's time I give other men real chances....🙂 I also think I have passed many of his tests cos when we r toghee we r pretty magicn actually. We always have n amazing time togheee ... henmigjt b dumb lol... n prob have avoidant attachment style I told him this too but I won't be waiting around anymore j I hope he won't take that against me .... coz hey he said we r not together... by the way welcome back! Where have u been hiding? Also convince me why Leo man might b a good boyfriend material? lol

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lol ok..

well i promised my aqua to take him out to a swinger party..

well it was actually my idea ..

:p

anyway, we had a foursome before with my libra friend and her aqua

half of that experience he cud't get it up...

now...

when we went to that swinger party as a couple to a new experience.. it was indeed interesting ...:p

but again, 5-6 couples sexing next to us..and my man is fully cloths up...

...meanwhile..

we both like the couple further away with a hot nice boobs and we both wanted her but she had 2 men already..

so i pretty much dragged him there and pretty much just pushed myself to * their party..* i enjoyed myself

my aqua was on me..playing..still clothed up..HAHAHAH

n i was like

babe come on !!! do it

and he's like .. i can't babe i'm not hard....

ok that was the whole experience lol

it became boring like..none of us really get turn on at all...

we walked around seeing sex couples like its nothing...

then ofcoz we came home to crazy wild sex..just us

so i told him, he's more intimate and need real connection that what he lets on ( all pisces placements on him) and he kept saying sorry coz he cud't perform... ( as expected)

then we came home n he's all sweet though again ended the convo that he's still not looking for a girlfriend...

story of my life...

so i'm like u noe what...this is it ..HAHAHA

a man can not contradict his words and actions enough...

oh lets not forget the piggy back ride on the way back and him driving me home and all...

This man is the most sensitive and romantic man alive...yet running away from real intimacy...

so i am at a place where i'm confused as....like, where do i go from here :p

oh...we were amazing together as a couple there... we do connect emotionally, physically and mentally..

this whole not looking for a girlfriend stuff is getting old n I'm sick of it...i expressed my needs...but i think i am going to move on now..

there is my story...

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Did YOU try to get him hard or just expect him to get hard watching another guy plow you from behind?

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And why the fuk do you keep bringing up pisces placements?

Pisces can be into swinger stuff

I see pisces way more into sheet like that than an aqua

truth

wow this is interesting.

Are you a sociopath?

They never own up to their mistake and never see themselves being wrong and they have no faults.

And you letting him drive your car is printed in my brain!

What else did you 'let' him do?

Wait what...he's driving her car??

What did I say in that other thread?? Be useful to them and they will be around forever.

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Apparently he didn't value her 'letting' him drive her car! What a POS! ?