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Im not bashing anyone im just saying if all a guy has to do is make you happy when your man forgets too. Then all you teach men is stay with sombody you hope is happy or learn some good jokes and read some romance novels so you can go snatch up girls who might be taken and unhappy.
Posted by nanobyteYou hit the nail on the head. When you said "women expect men to be mind readers"
I think that with men... women expect them to be mind readers when they are unhappy. Men just require different types of communication than women do.
I find that if you tell men that something bothers you in the relationship... in their "language" so that they understand, while maintaining respect and love during this conversation, then they will usually acknowledge their 'short coming' and try to fix it.
The problem always boils down to communication.
Last conversation i had a buddy told me his girl broke it off with him because she said she wasnt happy for past 3 years. But he said he never knew. Because she didnt express it sje expected him to feel the change.
What i got from all of them is simply" women respond men react"
Some women after they feel they tried stop responding and the guy reacts when its too late.
Posted by nanobyteTalk to me after you married ?
I think that with men... women expect them to be mind readers when they are unhappy. Men just require different types of communication than women do.
I find that if you tell men that something bothers you in the relationship... in their "language" so that they understand, while maintaining respect and love during this conversation, then they will usually acknowledge their 'short coming' and try to fix it.
The problem always boils down to communication.
So why would you as women settle, for outter happiness rather inner happiness..
i got a greiving friend who i want help, i would like womens point of view.
i got a greiving friend who i want help, i would like womens point of view.
Posted by GemitatiIts 30% who are happy and married so to say that dosent answer anything. It just says you settled too.Posted by nanobyteTalk to me after you married ?
I think that with men... women expect them to be mind readers when they are unhappy. Men just require different types of communication than women do.
I find that if you tell men that something bothers you in the relationship... in their "language" so that they understand, while maintaining respect and love during this conversation, then they will usually acknowledge their 'short coming' and try to fix it.
The problem always boils down to communication.click to expand
The explanation is not complicated. The man chooses the woman he is interested about. He is already in love and quite decisive about it. The woman eventually responds. When she responds, she does not feel she made the choice, so she is in control to accept it. From her part, the feeling is not 100% mutual because she had no choice, she only accepted. The man is usually more involved emotionally. Therefore, she doesn't feel the remorse when she decides to call for divorce.
This is totally general. I, for once, only say "yes" if I make a voluntary and 1100% assumed choice. I choose my man and I don't let him down on the next second thought.
This is totally general. I, for once, only say "yes" if I make a voluntary and 1100% assumed choice. I choose my man and I don't let him down on the next second thought.
Posted by compyBut thats not what statistics say. A large portions of divorces say "you" a women initiate divorce.
The explanation is not complicated. The man chooses the woman he is interested about. He is already in love and quite decisive about it. The woman eventually responds. When she responds, she does not feel she made the choice, so she is in control to accept it. From her part, the feeling is not 100% mutual because she had no choice, she only accepted. The man is usually more involved emotionally. Therefore, she doesn't feel the remorse when she decides to call for divorce.
This is totally general. I, for once, only say "yes" if I make a voluntary and 1100% assumed choice. I choose my man and I don't let him down on the next second thought.
Which i agree with if its sound and for good reason.
And no men chase women do the choosing.
Women are involved emotionally because they choose to leave because they felt emotionally neglected??
No, it is exactly what I wrote. Since they only accept the man, they are not so emotionally attached.
But on good note for men. We do bounce back quicker and eventually move on but a little bit more cold hearted especially if it was the first anything.
But why let a superficial feeling condem a relationship.
But why let a superficial feeling condem a relationship.
Posted by compyAccept? Thats not a good answer because ive seen women go litteraly crazy after the guy the broke up with has a new girlfriend.
No, it is exactly what I wrote. Since they only accept the man, they are not so emotionally attached.
And why would you accept that saying you are " lets seeee" settling for anything. Your saying "I accept you because you tried really hard or i accept you because you gave me attention, not because i like you.
So when you wake and see what you uave been accepting isnt what you have been expecting for the rest of your life kids become causalities of a broken home.
I only give psychological guidelines, not individualistic choices. Every case is particular. Do you want to discuss some specific situation?
Relationship shouldn't be traeted like a business contract" do all parties agree on the terms and conditions " do you accept ' signature yes here here and here. Experation date 2months.
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it's the most stupid to marry someone who is not 100% into you. a glutton for punishment but it's not uncommon lol. and it's the most selfish to marry someone you are not really into
Posted by compyNo i just want know why. So i can assist some 1.
I only give psychological guidelines, not individualistic choices. Every case is particular. Do you want to discuss some specific situation?
Posted by iCloud9Lol thank you
it's the most stupid to marry someone who is not 100% into you. a glutton for punishment but it's not uncommon lol. and it's the most selfish to marry someone you are not really into
Selfish for all the right reasons should be the new saying.
Posted by iCloud9i'm the selfish type of i want a man who is super yummy to me. that's my selfishness!!
it's the most stupid to marry someone who is not 100% into you. a glutton for punishment but it's not uncommon lol. and it's the most selfish to marry someone you are not really into
snuggle bunnies!!
You have your answer. We feel less responsible of the choice, because we are already chosen by the man, so we can break up easier. It goes for immature people a lot. I am not in this category.
Posted by lisabethur8that's not selfishPosted by iCloud9i'm the selfish type of i want a man who is super yummy to me. that's my selfishness!!
it's the most stupid to marry someone who is not 100% into you. a glutton for punishment but it's not uncommon lol. and it's the most selfish to marry someone you are not really into
snuggle bunnies!!click to expand
that's having a 'good" sense of entitlement lol. i think it's common for some of us with venus conjunct sun in 1st house lol
Posted by compyName me a sitiation were a women is emotionally attached. You maybe speaking for yourself you maybe unattached and unmotivated by your partners. But its a graet deal of women who remain in love for years with the person they once ""accepted""" but moved on from.
No, it is exactly what I wrote. Since they only accept the man, they are not so emotionally attached.
(In love not still have love for)
Posted by nanobyteNot at all. I live in a very civilized country. It's a truth and is backed up by a lot of examples. As I stated, it's a subtlety few people are conscious of. Not even the women. I have never said the woman is obliged to accept!Posted by compyThis sounds very primordial - are you living in a country with arranged marriages or of a much older generation?
No, it is exactly what I wrote. Since they only accept the man, they are not so emotionally attached.
I think that that this topic is a lot more multifaceted than being reduced to.... women simply "having to say yes or no" to a marriage proposal therefore aren't invested, and why would a woman not feel as though she had a choice....?
I can't see how this would apply at all to anyone living in the western world.click to expand
Posted by iCloud9Posted by lisabethur8that's not selfishPosted by iCloud9i'm the selfish type of i want a man who is super yummy to me. that's my selfishness!!
it's the most stupid to marry someone who is not 100% into you. a glutton for punishment but it's not uncommon lol. and it's the most selfish to marry someone you are not really into
snuggle bunnies!!
that's having a 'good" sense of entitlement lol. i think it's common for some of us with venus conjunct sun in 1st house lolclick to expand
I try to leave astrology out when its dealing with heart aches.
But i do get the erg to ask whts her sign and birthdate so i can google her venus. And its always air (aqua) but not libra or gemini its in fire(sag/Aries) in eartg just capricorn. And Water just cancer.
Posted by nanobyteThank you.Posted by compyThis sounds very primordial - are you living in a country with arranged marriages or of a much older generation?
No, it is exactly what I wrote. Since they only accept the man, they are not so emotionally attached.
I think that that this topic is a lot more multifaceted than being reduced to.... women simply "having to say yes or no" to a marriage proposal therefore aren't invested, and why would a woman not feel as though she had a choice....?
I can't see how this would apply at all to anyone living in the western world.click to expand
I would hope it would take more then accepting your fate.
If i haf to simply accept somthing then yes anybody would less emotionally obligated.
Baby girl follow your heart but take your brain with you.
Posted by Firefighterwhat's her mars?Posted by iCloud9Posted by lisabethur8that's not selfishPosted by iCloud9i'm the selfish type of i want a man who is super yummy to me. that's my selfishness!!
it's the most stupid to marry someone who is not 100% into you. a glutton for punishment but it's not uncommon lol. and it's the most selfish to marry someone you are not really into
snuggle bunnies!!
that's having a 'good" sense of entitlement lol. i think it's common for some of us with venus conjunct sun in 1st house lol
I try to leave astrology out when its dealing with heart aches.
But i do get the erg to ask whts her sign and birthdate so i can google her venus. And its always air (aqua) but not libra or gemini its in fire(sag/Aries) in eartg just capricorn. And Water just cancer.
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mars is also what type of man she is attracted to.
Posted by Firefighterregardless their signs, it's not easy for me to comprehend how can a man not know/feel whether the girl is into him or does not really love him. he most likely knew but still moved forward. when one makes an important decision based on the wrong reasons, he himself would be the one to blame. after all, we are responsible for our own happiness and choices we madePosted by iCloud9Posted by lisabethur8that's not selfishPosted by iCloud9i'm the selfish type of i want a man who is super yummy to me. that's my selfishness!!
it's the most stupid to marry someone who is not 100% into you. a glutton for punishment but it's not uncommon lol. and it's the most selfish to marry someone you are not really into
snuggle bunnies!!
that's having a 'good" sense of entitlement lol. i think it's common for some of us with venus conjunct sun in 1st house lol
I try to leave astrology out when its dealing with heart aches.
But i do get the erg to ask whts her sign and birthdate so i can google her venus. And its always air (aqua) but not libra or gemini its in fire(sag/Aries) in eartg just capricorn. And Water just cancer.
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Posted by nanobyteAgreed but what about when the tables turn again and society goes back. What about kids that dont want daddy moving out because mommy dosent love daddy unconditionally like they do. If i had a choice to be in a relationship were i knew in the next 8 years my wife would want to leave for some one else i would invest nothing.Posted by FirefighterYes and since I am a woman and sometimes subject to that mind reader expectation BS too, I often have to think instead of feel and remind myself that he doesn't know what I am thinking, and how can he do the right thing in my eyes, when he doesn't even know what that is? Lol. It takes a very conscious effort to do that, when innately you just want to expect that he would know to do this or that.Posted by nanobyteYou hit the nail on the head. When you said "women expect men to be mind readers"
I think that with men... women expect them to be mind readers when they are unhappy. Men just require different types of communication than women do.
I find that if you tell men that something bothers you in the relationship... in their "language" so that they understand, while maintaining respect and love during this conversation, then they will usually acknowledge their 'short coming' and try to fix it.
The problem always boils down to communication.
Last conversation i had a buddy told me his girl broke it off with him because she said she wasnt happy for past 3 years. But he said he never knew. Because she didnt express it sje expected him to feel the change.
What i got from all of them is simply" women respond men react"
Some women after they feel they tried stop responding and the guy reacts when its too late.
I guess to some extent, a man should know her well enough to know if his partner was unhappy. But still, it's like 90% on her if she didn't communicate that, provided he didn't cheat or abuse her.
I think that in a society where women are more independent than ever, we don't honestly need men as much anymore... women are self sufficient and have careers, so many women think that throwing away something that is broken is a better alternative than trying to fix it. It is sad though.
Sometimes I think that humans just aren't meant to be with 1 person for their whole life. Needs change. Situations change. People change.
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Who looses when she says im not happy. Who in 90% of cases looses the House, kids, stability, Financially and security the man. So would it be fair to say men should wait 10 to 30 years before he commits, before he has kids or invest in home and get married so he can be sure she is the one that makes him happy.
sounds stupid right.
Posted by iCloud9Posted by Firefighterregardless their signs, it's not easy for me to comprehend how can a man not know/feel whether the girl is into him or does not really love him. he most likely knew but still moved forward. when one makes an important decision based on the wrong reasons, he himself would be the one to blame. after all, we are responsible for our own happiness and choices we madePosted by iCloud9Posted by lisabethur8that's not selfishPosted by iCloud9i'm the selfish type of i want a man who is super yummy to me. that's my selfishness!!
it's the most stupid to marry someone who is not 100% into you. a glutton for punishment but it's not uncommon lol. and it's the most selfish to marry someone you are not really into
snuggle bunnies!!
that's having a 'good" sense of entitlement lol. i think it's common for some of us with venus conjunct sun in 1st house lol
I try to leave astrology out when its dealing with heart aches.
But i do get the erg to ask whts her sign and birthdate so i can google her venus. And its always air (aqua) but not libra or gemini its in fire(sag/Aries) in eartg just capricorn. And Water just cancer.
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If he doesn't know how is it his fault.
It would be liking telling sombody its your fault dumby "you should have known it was going to rain today. even though there wasnt a cloud in the sky and the weather man says its going to be a bright and sunny day.
Posted by Firefightercan't you tell when a woman really love you or not?Posted by iCloud9Posted by Firefighterregardless their signs, it's not easy for me to comprehend how can a man not know/feel whether the girl is into him or does not really love him. he most likely knew but still moved forward. when one makes an important decision based on the wrong reasons, he himself would be the one to blame. after all, we are responsible for our own happiness and choices we madePosted by iCloud9Posted by lisabethur8that's not selfishPosted by iCloud9i'm the selfish type of i want a man who is super yummy to me. that's my selfishness!!
it's the most stupid to marry someone who is not 100% into you. a glutton for punishment but it's not uncommon lol. and it's the most selfish to marry someone you are not really into
snuggle bunnies!!
that's having a 'good" sense of entitlement lol. i think it's common for some of us with venus conjunct sun in 1st house lol
I try to leave astrology out when its dealing with heart aches.
But i do get the erg to ask whts her sign and birthdate so i can google her venus. And its always air (aqua) but not libra or gemini its in fire(sag/Aries) in eartg just capricorn. And Water just cancer.
If he doesn't know how is it his fault.
It would be liking telling sombody its your fault dumby "you should have known it was going to rain today. even though there wasnt a cloud in the sky and the weather man says its going to be a bright and sunny day.
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i mean, if you had couple relationships or more, you should be able to tell. no?
Posted by lisabethur8Yes like sombody for all the selfish physical reasons because its a choice to be happy in the futur or not. Pick that person regardless of what other people think why you pick them.Posted by iCloud9i'm the selfish type of i want a man who is super yummy to me. that's my selfishness!!
it's the most stupid to marry someone who is not 100% into you. a glutton for punishment but it's not uncommon lol. and it's the most selfish to marry someone you are not really into
snuggle bunnies!!click to expand
I don't understand.
In one hand, you asked why women settle. On the other, you complain that 70% of them initiate divorce. How do they settle, if they opt out of a dissatisfactory situation?
Did it cross your mind that many of the remaining 30% are those who actually settle....?
In one hand, you asked why women settle. On the other, you complain that 70% of them initiate divorce. How do they settle, if they opt out of a dissatisfactory situation?
Did it cross your mind that many of the remaining 30% are those who actually settle....?
Posted by iCloud9Posted by Firefightercan't you tell when a woman really love you or not?Posted by iCloud9Posted by Firefighterregardless their signs, it's not easy for me to comprehend how can a man not know/feel whether the girl is into him or does not really love him. he most likely knew but still moved forward. when one makes an important decision based on the wrong reasons, he himself would be the one to blame. after all, we are responsible for our own happiness and choices we madePosted by iCloud9Posted by lisabethur8that's not selfishPosted by iCloud9i'm the selfish type of i want a man who is super yummy to me. that's my selfishness!!
it's the most stupid to marry someone who is not 100% into you. a glutton for punishment but it's not uncommon lol. and it's the most selfish to marry someone you are not really into
snuggle bunnies!!
that's having a 'good" sense of entitlement lol. i think it's common for some of us with venus conjunct sun in 1st house lol
I try to leave astrology out when its dealing with heart aches.
But i do get the erg to ask whts her sign and birthdate so i can google her venus. And its always air (aqua) but not libra or gemini its in fire(sag/Aries) in eartg just capricorn. And Water just cancer.
If he doesn't know how is it his fault.
It would be liking telling sombody its your fault dumby "you should have known it was going to rain today. even though there wasnt a cloud in the sky and the weather man says its going to be a bright and sunny day.
i mean, if you had couple relationships or more, you should be able to tell. no?click to expand
No i cant honestly most of the times my wife is happy thats what i like to believe but its been days where she sat up in bed and said baby what you said was to me ladt week hurt my feeling or last month you forgot about me and hung out with your boys.
Im like what the flying chipmonks you held that in for 7 days and the other for full 30days.
Let somthing up set me you got 2 micro seconds before i address it.
Posted by FirefighterPosted by iCloud9Posted by Firefightercan't you tell when a woman really love you or not?Posted by iCloud9Posted by Firefighterregardless their signs, it's not easy for me to comprehend how can a man not know/feel whether the girl is into him or does not really love him. he most likely knew but still moved forward. when one makes an important decision based on the wrong reasons, he himself would be the one to blame. after all, we are responsible for our own happiness and choices we madePosted by iCloud9Posted by lisabethur8that's not selfishPosted by iCloud9i'm the selfish type of i want a man who is super yummy to me. that's my selfishness!!
it's the most stupid to marry someone who is not 100% into you. a glutton for punishment but it's not uncommon lol. and it's the most selfish to marry someone you are not really into
snuggle bunnies!!
that's having a 'good" sense of entitlement lol. i think it's common for some of us with venus conjunct sun in 1st house lol
I try to leave astrology out when its dealing with heart aches.
But i do get the erg to ask whts her sign and birthdate so i can google her venus. And its always air (aqua) but not libra or gemini its in fire(sag/Aries) in eartg just capricorn. And Water just cancer.
If he doesn't know how is it his fault.
It would be liking telling sombody its your fault dumby "you should have known it was going to rain today. even though there wasnt a cloud in the sky and the weather man says its going to be a bright and sunny day.
i mean, if you had couple relationships or more, you should be able to tell. no?
No i cant honestly most of the times my wife is happy thats what i like to believe but its been days where she sat up in bed, and said baby"what you said to me last week hurt my feeling or how last month i forgot about her and hung out with your boys.
Im like what the flying chipmonks you held that in for 7 days and the other for full 30days.
Let somthing up set me you got 2 micro seconds before i address it.click to expand
Posted by UndineSettle for the wrong person for so long only to then realize your not happy.
I don't understand.
In one hand, you asked why women settle. On the other, you complain that 70% of them initiate divorce. How do they settle, if they opt out of a dissatisfactory situation?
Did it cross your mind that many of the remaining 30% are those who actually settle....?
Stop looking in and trying to find somthing you can discredit or give credit for. Answer the question
How long does it got take you to know your not happy.
Right answer is right away not a few years.
Posted by Firefighter7 days is not too bad. 30 days a bit too long that's more than a cycle lolPosted by iCloud9Posted by Firefightercan't you tell when a woman really love you or not?Posted by iCloud9Posted by Firefighterregardless their signs, it's not easy for me to comprehend how can a man not know/feel whether the girl is into him or does not really love him. he most likely knew but still moved forward. when one makes an important decision based on the wrong reasons, he himself would be the one to blame. after all, we are responsible for our own happiness and choices we madePosted by iCloud9Posted by lisabethur8that's not selfishPosted by iCloud9i'm the selfish type of i want a man who is super yummy to me. that's my selfishness!!
it's the most stupid to marry someone who is not 100% into you. a glutton for punishment but it's not uncommon lol. and it's the most selfish to marry someone you are not really into
snuggle bunnies!!
that's having a 'good" sense of entitlement lol. i think it's common for some of us with venus conjunct sun in 1st house lol
I try to leave astrology out when its dealing with heart aches.
But i do get the erg to ask whts her sign and birthdate so i can google her venus. And its always air (aqua) but not libra or gemini its in fire(sag/Aries) in eartg just capricorn. And Water just cancer.
If he doesn't know how is it his fault.
It would be liking telling sombody its your fault dumby "you should have known it was going to rain today. even though there wasnt a cloud in the sky and the weather man says its going to be a bright and sunny day.
i mean, if you had couple relationships or more, you should be able to tell. no?
No i cant honestly most of the times my wife is happy thats what i like to believe but its been days where she sat up in bed and said baby what you said was to me ladt week hurt my feeling or last month you forgot about me and hung out with your boys.
Im like what the flying chipmonks you held that in for 7 days and the other for full 30days.
Let somthing up set me you got 2 micro seconds before i address it.click to expand
Posted by iCloud9Lol.Posted by Firefighter7 days is not too bad. 30 days a bit too long that's more than a cycle lolPosted by iCloud9Posted by Firefightercan't you tell when a woman really love you or not?Posted by iCloud9Posted by Firefighterregardless their signs, it's not easy for me to comprehend how can a man not know/feel whether the girl is into him or does not really love him. he most likely knew but still moved forward. when one makes an important decision based on the wrong reasons, he himself would be the one to blame. after all, we are responsible for our own happiness and choices we madePosted by iCloud9Posted by lisabethur8that's not selfishPosted by iCloud9i'm the selfish type of i want a man who is super yummy to me. that's my selfishness!!
it's the most stupid to marry someone who is not 100% into you. a glutton for punishment but it's not uncommon lol. and it's the most selfish to marry someone you are not really into
snuggle bunnies!!
that's having a 'good" sense of entitlement lol. i think it's common for some of us with venus conjunct sun in 1st house lol
I try to leave astrology out when its dealing with heart aches.
But i do get the erg to ask whts her sign and birthdate so i can google her venus. And its always air (aqua) but not libra or gemini its in fire(sag/Aries) in eartg just capricorn. And Water just cancer.
If he doesn't know how is it his fault.
It would be liking telling sombody its your fault dumby "you should have known it was going to rain today. even though there wasnt a cloud in the sky and the weather man says its going to be a bright and sunny day.
i mean, if you had couple relationships or more, you should be able to tell. no?
No i cant honestly most of the times my wife is happy thats what i like to believe but its been days where she sat up in bed and said baby what you said was to me ladt week hurt my feeling or last month you forgot about me and hung out with your boys.
Im like what the flying chipmonks you held that in for 7 days and the other for full 30days.
Let somthing up set me you got 2 micro seconds before i address it.
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I feel like a man in a lions den.
But i want a women perspective and i only want give a mans honest perspective
Lioness
I've been married for 17 years and yes, I initiated divorce. The relationship that started 17, well 20 years before, had little resemblance to the one that ended.
People change. Situations change. Plans change. Feelings....surely you know how often and how profound feelings can change...you don't need to be married for decades to see it.
Of course there was commitment, otherwise we wouldn't have lasted 20 years. Have I settled? I couldn't have wished for a better man when I married him.
Still do not understand where are YOU heading with your question...?
People change. Situations change. Plans change. Feelings....surely you know how often and how profound feelings can change...you don't need to be married for decades to see it.
Of course there was commitment, otherwise we wouldn't have lasted 20 years. Have I settled? I couldn't have wished for a better man when I married him.
Still do not understand where are YOU heading with your question...?
Posted by FirefighterPosted by UndineSettle for the wrong person for so long only to then realize your not happy.
I don't understand.
In one hand, you asked why women settle. On the other, you complain that 70% of them initiate divorce. How do they settle, if they opt out of a dissatisfactory situation?
Did it cross your mind that many of the remaining 30% are those who actually settle....?
Stop looking in and trying to find somthing you can discredit or give credit for. Answer the question
How long does it got take you to know your not happy.
Right answer is right away not a few years.click to expand
Excuse me, but my happiness has to do with many other things, not just a man.
The house, the place, the country I'm living in, the friends I have, the career I'm building, the success I have in life in general.
I could be happy one day and miserable tomorrow. Feeling are like clouds...they come and go.
What I think you mean is how satisfied we were with what we became. Did it align with our expectations we had 20 years ago? How about the NEW expectations we had later on? Could we have done better than this, together or apart ?
Why is this on Aqua forum? are you asking Aqua women/
Well, I'm only about 11% Aqua...
Well, I'm only about 11% Aqua...
Posted by UndinePosted by FirefighterPosted by UndineSettle for the wrong person for so long only to then realize your not happy.
I don't understand.
In one hand, you asked why women settle. On the other, you complain that 70% of them initiate divorce. How do they settle, if they opt out of a dissatisfactory situation?
Did it cross your mind that many of the remaining 30% are those who actually settle....?
Stop looking in and trying to find somthing you can discredit or give credit for. Answer the question
How long does it got take you to know your not happy.
Right answer is right away not a few years.
Excuse me, but my happiness has to do with many other things, not just a man.
The house, the place, the country I'm living in, the friends I have, the career I'm building, the success I have in life in general.
I could be happy one day and miserable tomorrow. Feeling are like clouds...they come and go.
What I think you mean is how satisfied we were with what we became. Did it align with our expectations we had 20 years ago? How about the NEW expectations we had later on? Could we have done better than this, together or apart ?click to expand
you're making men feel sad and depressed reading this. lol no hope.
Posted by Undine"I could have not wished for a better man"
I've been married for 17 years and yes, I initiated divorce. The relationship that started 17, well 20 years before, had little resemblance to the one that ended.
People change. Situations change. Plans change. Feelings....surely you know how often and how profound feelings can change...you don't need to be married for decades to see it.
Of course there was commitment, otherwise we wouldn't have lasted 20 years. Have I settled? I couldn't have wished for a better man when I married him.
Still do not understand where are YOU heading with your question...?
"I initiated divorce"
That sums it all up. And my point is you never settled, you pick the right man buy some where along the road you let his hand go, you saw somthing else, you changed or just wanted out of the same direction.
Who says i couldnt have wished for a better any says, but id rather not maybe its to good for me.
Unless she has hidden demonds or is dealing with her own personal imbalance.
You keep looking for somthing that was never lost.
Posted by FirefighterPosted by Undine"I could have not wished for a better man"
I've been married for 17 years and yes, I initiated divorce. The relationship that started 17, well 20 years before, had little resemblance to the one that ended.
People change. Situations change. Plans change. Feelings....surely you know how often and how profound feelings can change...you don't need to be married for decades to see it.
Of course there was commitment, otherwise we wouldn't have lasted 20 years. Have I settled? I couldn't have wished for a better man when I married him.
Still do not understand where are YOU heading with your question...?
"I initiated divorce"
That sums it all up. And my point is you never settled, you pick the right man buy some where along the road you let his hand go, you saw somthing else, you changed or just wanted out of the same direction.
Who says i couldnt have wished for a better any says, but id rather not maybe its to good for me.
Unless she has hidden demonds or is dealing with her own personal imbalance.
You keep looking for somthing that was never lost.click to expand
firefighter meet undine, undine meet firefighter...
match made in heaven.
Posted by Firefighter"I could have not wished for a better man""I initiated divorce"That sums it all up.Posted by Undine"I could have not wished for a better man"
I've been married for 17 years and yes, I initiated divorce. The relationship that started 17, well 20 years before, had little resemblance to the one that ended.
People change. Situations change. Plans change. Feelings....surely you know how often and how profound feelings can change...you don't need to be married for decades to see it.
Of course there was commitment, otherwise we wouldn't have lasted 20 years. Have I settled? I couldn't have wished for a better man when I married him.
Still do not understand where are YOU heading with your question...?
"I initiated divorce"
That sums it all up. And my point is you never settled, you pick the right man buy some where along the road you let his hand go, you saw somthing else, you changed or just wanted out of the same direction.
Who says i couldnt have wished for a better any says, but id rather not maybe its to good for me.
Unless she has hidden demonds or is dealing with her own personal imbalance.
You looking for somthing that was never lost.click to expand
Err....no...?! There were two bloody decades in between!
Sorry. My Aqua Mercury does not understand yours, whatever it is.
Posted by lisabethur8Jezzz Lisa. Are you setting me up with a married man?! NEVER in my life.Posted by FirefighterPosted by Undine"I could have not wished for a better man"
I've been married for 17 years and yes, I initiated divorce. The relationship that started 17, well 20 years before, had little resemblance to the one that ended.
People change. Situations change. Plans change. Feelings....surely you know how often and how profound feelings can change...you don't need to be married for decades to see it.
Of course there was commitment, otherwise we wouldn't have lasted 20 years. Have I settled? I couldn't have wished for a better man when I married him.
Still do not understand where are YOU heading with your question...?
"I initiated divorce"
That sums it all up. And my point is you never settled, you pick the right man buy some where along the road you let his hand go, you saw somthing else, you changed or just wanted out of the same direction.
Who says i couldnt have wished for a better any says, but id rather not maybe its to good for me.
Unless she has hidden demonds or is dealing with her own personal imbalance.
You keep looking for somthing that was never lost.
firefighter meet undine, undine meet firefighter...
match made in heaven.
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I know you're joking. x
Posted by UndinePosted by lisabethur8Jezzz Lisa. Are you setting me up with a married man?! NEVER in my life.Posted by FirefighterPosted by Undine"I could have not wished for a better man"
I've been married for 17 years and yes, I initiated divorce. The relationship that started 17, well 20 years before, had little resemblance to the one that ended.
People change. Situations change. Plans change. Feelings....surely you know how often and how profound feelings can change...you don't need to be married for decades to see it.
Of course there was commitment, otherwise we wouldn't have lasted 20 years. Have I settled? I couldn't have wished for a better man when I married him.
Still do not understand where are YOU heading with your question...?
"I initiated divorce"
That sums it all up. And my point is you never settled, you pick the right man buy some where along the road you let his hand go, you saw somthing else, you changed or just wanted out of the same direction.
Who says i couldnt have wished for a better any says, but id rather not maybe its to good for me.
Unless she has hidden demonds or is dealing with her own personal imbalance.
You keep looking for somthing that was never lost.
firefighter meet undine, undine meet firefighter...
match made in heaven.
I know you're joking. x
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he's married?
omg.
dude, stop talking bad about your woman!!
Posted by UndinePosted by FirefighterPosted by UndineSettle for the wrong person for so long only to then realize your not happy.
I don't understand.
In one hand, you asked why women settle. On the other, you complain that 70% of them initiate divorce. How do they settle, if they opt out of a dissatisfactory situation?
Did it cross your mind that many of the remaining 30% are those who actually settle....?
Stop looking in and trying to find somthing you can discredit or give credit for. Answer the question
How long does it got take you to know your not happy.
Right answer is right away not a few years.
Excuse me, but my happiness has to do with many other things, not just a man.
The house, the place, the country I'm living in, the friends I have, the career I'm building, the success I have in life in general.
I could be happy one day and miserable tomorrow. Feeling are like clouds...they come and go.
What I think you mean is how satisfied we were with what we became. Did it align with our expectations we had 20 years ago? How about the NEW expectations we had later on? Could we have done better than this, together or apart ?click to expand
Things out side
things
All out side influences.
What about building does things together a career. Your friends / his friends. If love is like a moving cloud tgen lets not play the game, you dont invest he dont invest give it 20 years if your still together give it another 10 to make sure.
If some women knew how men viewd their girlfriends or wives they would feel and know they are 1 in a billion. But just because MOST men have a harder time expressing this deep feeling they get back stabbed by the person who they are standing in front of trying to protect from danger.
If the world has changed its changed for the worst.
Posted by lisabethur8Posted by UndinePosted by lisabethur8Jezzz Lisa. Are you setting me up with a married man?! NEVER in my life.Posted by FirefighterPosted by Undine"I could have not wished for a better man"
I've been married for 17 years and yes, I initiated divorce. The relationship that started 17, well 20 years before, had little resemblance to the one that ended.
People change. Situations change. Plans change. Feelings....surely you know how often and how profound feelings can change...you don't need to be married for decades to see it.
Of course there was commitment, otherwise we wouldn't have lasted 20 years. Have I settled? I couldn't have wished for a better man when I married him.
Still do not understand where are YOU heading with your question...?
"I initiated divorce"
That sums it all up. And my point is you never settled, you pick the right man buy some where along the road you let his hand go, you saw somthing else, you changed or just wanted out of the same direction.
Who says i couldnt have wished for a better any says, but id rather not maybe its to good for me.
Unless she has hidden demonds or is dealing with her own personal imbalance.
You keep looking for somthing that was never lost.
firefighter meet undine, undine meet firefighter...
match made in heaven.
I know you're joking. x
he's married?
omg.
dude, stop talking bad about your woman!!
click to expand
?? This has nothing to do with me or my wife??
Posted by lisabethur8Posted by UndinePosted by lisabethur8Jezzz Lisa. Are you setting me up with a married man?! NEVER in my life.Posted by FirefighterPosted by Undine"I could have not wished for a better man"
I've been married for 17 years and yes, I initiated divorce. The relationship that started 17, well 20 years before, had little resemblance to the one that ended.
People change. Situations change. Plans change. Feelings....surely you know how often and how profound feelings can change...you don't need to be married for decades to see it.
Of course there was commitment, otherwise we wouldn't have lasted 20 years. Have I settled? I couldn't have wished for a better man when I married him.
Still do not understand where are YOU heading with your question...?
"I initiated divorce"
That sums it all up. And my point is you never settled, you pick the right man buy some where along the road you let his hand go, you saw somthing else, you changed or just wanted out of the same direction.
Who says i couldnt have wished for a better any says, but id rather not maybe its to good for me.
Unless she has hidden demonds or is dealing with her own personal imbalance.
You keep looking for somthing that was never lost.
firefighter meet undine, undine meet firefighter...
match made in heaven.
I know you're joking. x
he's married?
omg.
dude, stop talking bad about your woman!!
click to expand
I fuckng hate spell check and rush typing so much fucking errors
Posted by lisabethur8Posted by UndinePosted by lisabethur8Jezzz Lisa. Are you setting me up with a married man?! NEVER in my life.Posted by FirefighterPosted by Undine"I could have not wished for a better man"
I've been married for 17 years and yes, I initiated divorce. The relationship that started 17, well 20 years before, had little resemblance to the one that ended.
People change. Situations change. Plans change. Feelings....surely you know how often and how profound feelings can change...you don't need to be married for decades to see it.
Of course there was commitment, otherwise we wouldn't have lasted 20 years. Have I settled? I couldn't have wished for a better man when I married him.
Still do not understand where are YOU heading with your question...?
"I initiated divorce"
That sums it all up. And my point is you never settled, you pick the right man buy some where along the road you let his hand go, you saw somthing else, you changed or just wanted out of the same direction.
Who says i couldnt have wished for a better any says, but id rather not maybe its to good for me.
Unless she has hidden demonds or is dealing with her own personal imbalance.
You keep looking for somthing that was never lost.
firefighter meet undine, undine meet firefighter...
match made in heaven.
I know you're joking. x
he's married?
omg.
dude, stop talking bad about your woman!!
click to expand
Whats up lizy
And its iVirgo
All this teaches men.
Is
1. Do nothing. But Be nice
2. Do nothing. But Just listen
3. Do nothing. But give her complements
4. Do nothing. But agree with her
And you can get any girl you want.
No investments, no real obligation, no dime spent.
The minute she tries to gets serious just say "hold up there cowboy i reckon 'were just a friends you see here.
(John wayn voice)
Is
1. Do nothing. But Be nice
2. Do nothing. But Just listen
3. Do nothing. But give her complements
4. Do nothing. But agree with her
And you can get any girl you want.
No investments, no real obligation, no dime spent.
The minute she tries to gets serious just say "hold up there cowboy i reckon 'were just a friends you see here.
(John wayn voice)
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