Aries mate says he doesn't believe in titles shit is making me mad

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Well I would ask why. If he says you are in a relationship, what is the difference
I feel like there's an underlined agenda as to why he's going hard about the no title thing. Because if you don't care for them then it shouldn't bother you either way no? I also feel like if it means he doesn't want to be exclusive then he should just say that. Without saying it I feel like he's trying to have his cake and eat it too and I'm not about to be pimped... foh. I'm not going to be any man's 1 out of many.
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Says we're in a relationship but doesn't believe in titles so idk wtf that means. Aries help me understand... maybe I'm bugging. I just don't understand what the big deal is. Unless he doesn't want to be exclusive but he should just say that. Idk someone help me please.


Typically, they want blurred lines so that they can act freely without consequence of behavior. This is not an Aries characteristic, but anyone with the "titles" philosophy.... Sag, Scorp, or otherwise. I think it's a set-up for either boundary violation or, no boundaries. No boundaries, you get walked on and remain in a constant state of confusion due to subtle manipulation.

We had an Aries post a thread here having this "I dont believe in titles" philosophy presented to her by a Sag male. She wasn't even trying to get into a relationship with him. I think his game was to make her want him by seduction/manipulation of feigned disinterest - reversal.

I had a Scorp try it on me. I never tried to be his girlfriend so, I was like umkay. But, then he started asking for, expecting, later demanding, things I only did in a commited relationship. I had to express, no, that is not the type of relationship we have. I have boundaries. Later, he tried to establish a relationship but, I still didn't want one with him.

It's just in some people to get the max for the minimum no matter what... cheap, greedy, stingy... No matter how much they like you. Dating is no different than applying coupons to a purchase at a grocery store then trying to get a discount for dented can goods.
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Says we're in a relationship but doesn't believe in titles so idk wtf that means. Aries help me understand... maybe I'm bugging. I just don't understand what the big deal is. Unless he doesn't want to be exclusive but he should just say that. Idk someone help me please.


Typically, they want blurred lines so that they can act freely without consequence of behavior. This is not an Aries characteristic, but anyone with the "titles" philosophy.... Sag, Scorp, or otherwise. I think it's a set-up for either boundary violation or, no boundaries. No boundaries, you get walked on and remain in a constant state of confusion due to subtle manipulation.

We had an Aries post a thread here having this "I dont believe in titles" philosophy presented to her by a Sag male. She wasn't even trying to get into a relationship with him. I think his game was to make her want him by seduction/manipulation of feigned disinterest - reversal.

I had a Scorp try it on me. I never tried to be his girlfriend so, I was like umkay. But, then he started asking for, expecting, later demanding, things I only did in a commited relationship. I had to express, no, that is not the type of relationship we have. I have boundaries. Later, he tried to establish a relationship but, I still didn't want one with him.

It's just in some people to get the max for the minimum no matter what... cheap, greedy, stingy... No matter how much they like you. Dating is no different than applying coupons to a purchase at a grocery store then trying to get a discount for dented can goods.

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I agree wholeheartedly with all that you said. I just finished cutting him off. If he wants me he'll get his shit together. I'm not one who's about the bullshit. I just had to make sure I wasn't overreacting.
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Yea not an Aries trait.. Only way to know is to be direct with him, have to ask or else things will probably remain the same. Might have some sort of commitment issues as well
I did my best to try to find out 3, 4 times. Last night was the realest and longest conversation we had about it. All I got out of it is that he's slow with certain things and that we are in a relationship but don't have a title. Shit sounds fuccin retarded to me. I cut his ass off today. I'm no fool.
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Yea not an Aries trait.. Only way to know is to be direct with him, have to ask or else things will probably remain the same. Might have some sort of commitment issues as well
I did my best to try to find out 3, 4 times. Last night was the realest and longest conversation we had about it. All I got out of it is that he's slow with certain things and that we are in a relationship but don't have a title. Shit sounds fuccin retarded to me. I cut his ass off today. I'm no fool.
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Good move. Would have done the same
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He says you guys are in a "relationship" does that mean you are "exclusive".... that's the real question. Has he stated this explicitly and do his actions mirror it?

I'm trying to figure out what title you want? Wifey, boo, babe, girl, shawty, lil mama, woman?

It's borderline petty really.
She wants the "girlfriend" title.

Girlfriend is a title.
Well I would think if you're in a "relationship" that's an automatic. I wouldn't think there would have to be 2 separate conversations to figure that out.


Right? No kidding. Might as well open a title agency at that point.
Lol. That's why I said the most important aspect is the exclusivity of us and his actions.

I don't want a guy calling me "girlfriend" just to shut me up but he's barely around or treats me like shit. He can keep that title.





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Lmaooo to all that was said. For real though. So we had a conversation one more time about it. Without all the Aries vs Scorpio anger lmao. He said he's not ruling out titles, not what he was trying to say to me, however he doesn't want to rush to have a title cuz it's cute cuz that would be childish. He thinks we should take it slow to know each other past the stage we're at and we agreed to be loyal to each other. ... I feel like he didn't say that because even time he said that no titles shit I got mad af. I told him it's basically about respect and at the end of the day I want my due respect. But I'm also not trying to rush a thing so okay sounds good. So that's the conclusion lol.
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Nah, someone who just uses the term "relationship" freely could mean anything... You do need to clarify otherwise when shit hits the fan you will hear excuses like, "but there is no label babe"... And then what? OP you did good ??
Yeah she did a good job not being able to discuss "exactly" what type of relationship they had when they first had the conversation. Exclusive or not? Instead she became petty and wanted a "title" so bad she missed the underlying factor.



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ACTUALLY lmao. I tried about 3 or 4 times to ask that and to understand what he meant. Not my fault he doesn't know how to communicate his ideals and noooo I'm not just going to go along with it if I do understand soooooo... we're about to have this struggle *shrugs*
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I don't really understand what the big deal is. It's more about how the relationship is, rather than what you call it, and that's probably what he means? Regardless of what he means there's little point pushing for a movement on this, just let him come around in his own time. What is in a name, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet?


Exactly. I'd be like if you don't get your needy, whiny, insecure butt out of my face.

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And like I said, I wasn't talking about now, I was talking about in general and eventually. I wasn't sure if he was cool with being exclusive or he wanted an open relationship... I deserve to know wtf is up and where this is going and where we at. I got mad because after 4 times trying to communicate of course I got frustrated.
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I don't really understand what the big deal is. It's more about how the relationship is, rather than what you call it, and that's probably what he means? Regardless of what he means there's little point pushing for a movement on this, just let him come around in his own time. What is in a name, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet?


Exactly. I'd be like if you don't get your needy, whiny, insecure butt out of my face.


And like I said, I wasn't talking about now, I was talking about in general and eventually. I wasn't sure if he was cool with being exclusive or he wanted an open relationship... I deserve to know wtf is up and where this is going and where we at. I got mad because after 4 times trying to communicate of course I got frustrated.


Well if you can't get your answer after one discussion with him and he doesn't provide it to you on his own then _________.

If you to ask 4 times....(see paragraph 2)

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Well the first time I brought it up when I was drunk and he said should know. So I didn't want to continue the conversation when I was drunk. Then I was like okay I'll continue it in person when I seen em. It ain't really happen cuz we agreed to talk about it in the morning but we didn't so the other day is when we really talked about it. Besides the way he delivers shit be getting me mad like he doesn't know how to properly express his feelings. I realize I have to be more patient with him in that area because it's easy af for me to say how I feel. Not everyone's like that. But he got a smart ass mouth lmao so he says things a certain way and I be like *side eye* ... sometimes it just ain't that simple.
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I don't really understand what the big deal is. It's more about how the relationship is, rather than what you call it, and that's probably what he means? Regardless of what he means there's little point pushing for a movement on this, just let him come around in his own time. What is in a name, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet?


Exactly. I'd be like if you don't get your needy, whiny, insecure butt out of my face.


And like I said, I wasn't talking about now, I was talking about in general and eventually. I wasn't sure if he was cool with being exclusive or he wanted an open relationship... I deserve to know wtf is up and where this is going and where we at. I got mad because after 4 times trying to communicate of course I got frustrated.


Well if you can't get your answer after one discussion with him and he doesn't provide it to you on his own then _________.

If you to ask 4 times....(see paragraph 2)



Well the first time I brought it up when I was drunk and he said should know. So I didn't want to continue the conversation when I was drunk. Then I was like okay I'll continue it in person when I seen em. It ain't really happen cuz we agreed to talk about it in the morning but we didn't so the other day is when we really talked about it. Besides the way he delivers shit be getting me mad like he doesn't know how to properly express his feelings. I realize I have to be more patient with him in that area because it's easy af for me to say how I feel. Not everyone's like that. But he got a smart ass mouth lmao so he says things a certain way and I be like *side eye* ... sometimes it just ain't that simple.


Ok I get it. You're dating a toddler.

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I absolutely am man lmaooooooo. This is what I'm trying to say. Well see that's why I made this post because I wanted to know if I was being fair. I like to be fair idk. I actually like your comments specifically usually in posts because I feel like you're gonna give me your raw opinion even if it's brash. I'm cool with that.
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I don't really understand what the big deal is. It's more about how the relationship is, rather than what you call it, and that's probably what he means? Regardless of what he means there's little point pushing for a movement on this, just let him come around in his own time. What is in a name, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet?


Exactly. I'd be like if you don't get your needy, whiny, insecure butt out of my face.


And like I said, I wasn't talking about now, I was talking about in general and eventually. I wasn't sure if he was cool with being exclusive or he wanted an open relationship... I deserve to know wtf is up and where this is going and where we at. I got mad because after 4 times trying to communicate of course I got frustrated.


Well if you can't get your answer after one discussion with him and he doesn't provide it to you on his own then _________.

If you to ask 4 times....(see paragraph 2)



Well the first time I brought it up when I was drunk and he said should know. So I didn't want to continue the conversation when I was drunk. Then I was like okay I'll continue it in person when I seen em. It ain't really happen cuz we agreed to talk about it in the morning but we didn't so the other day is when we really talked about it. Besides the way he delivers shit be getting me mad like he doesn't know how to properly express his feelings. I realize I have to be more patient with him in that area because it's easy af for me to say how I feel. Not everyone's like that. But he got a smart ass mouth lmao so he says things a certain way and I be like *side eye* ... sometimes it just ain't that simple.


Ok I get it. You're dating a toddler.



I absolutely am man lmaooooooo. This is what I'm trying to say. Well see that's why I made this post because I wanted to know if I was being fair. I like to be fair idk. I actually like your comments specifically usually in posts because I feel like you're gonna give me your raw opinion even if it's brash. I'm cool with that.

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That last comment was for AriesJo but you did a good job at that too lol
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I don't really understand what the big deal is. It's more about how the relationship is, rather than what you call it, and that's probably what he means? Regardless of what he means there's little point pushing for a movement on this, just let him come around in his own time. What is in a name, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet?


Exactly. I'd be like if you don't get your needy, whiny, insecure butt out of my face.


And like I said, I wasn't talking about now, I was talking about in general and eventually. I wasn't sure if he was cool with being exclusive or he wanted an open relationship... I deserve to know wtf is up and where this is going and where we at. I got mad because after 4 times trying to communicate of course I got frustrated.


Well if you can't get your answer after one discussion with him and he doesn't provide it to you on his own then _________.

If you to ask 4 times....(see paragraph 2)



Well the first time I brought it up when I was drunk and he said should know. So I didn't want to continue the conversation when I was drunk. Then I was like okay I'll continue it in person when I seen em. It ain't really happen cuz we agreed to talk about it in the morning but we didn't so the other day is when we really talked about it. Besides the way he delivers shit be getting me mad like he doesn't know how to properly express his feelings. I realize I have to be more patient with him in that area because it's easy af for me to say how I feel. Not everyone's like that. But he got a smart ass mouth lmao so he says things a certain way and I be like *side eye* ... sometimes it just ain't that simple.


Ok I get it. You're dating a toddler.



I absolutely am man lmaooooooo. This is what I'm trying to say. Well see that's why I made this post because I wanted to know if I was being fair. I like to be fair idk. I actually like your comments specifically usually in posts because I feel like you're gonna give me your raw opinion even if it's brash. I'm cool with that.


No you're dating a grown man. Stop making excuses for why you have to act in this manner. If you feel you are dating a toddler then why are you so pressed to be his girlfriend.

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He admits he has communication issues. Hell he even admits he can be an asshole sometimes and hard to deal with lol. I don't think I'm bugging here. What should I have done better?
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I don't really understand what the big deal is. It's more about how the relationship is, rather than what you call it, and that's probably what he means? Regardless of what he means there's little point pushing for a movement on this, just let him come around in his own time. What is in a name, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet?


Exactly. I'd be like if you don't get your needy, whiny, insecure butt out of my face.


And like I said, I wasn't talking about now, I was talking about in general and eventually. I wasn't sure if he was cool with being exclusive or he wanted an open relationship... I deserve to know wtf is up and where this is going and where we at. I got mad because after 4 times trying to communicate of course I got frustrated.


Well if you can't get your answer after one discussion with him and he doesn't provide it to you on his own then _________.

If you to ask 4 times....(see paragraph 2)



Well the first time I brought it up when I was drunk and he said should know. So I didn't want to continue the conversation when I was drunk. Then I was like okay I'll continue it in person when I seen em. It ain't really happen cuz we agreed to talk about it in the morning but we didn't so the other day is when we really talked about it. Besides the way he delivers shit be getting me mad like he doesn't know how to properly express his feelings. I realize I have to be more patient with him in that area because it's easy af for me to say how I feel. Not everyone's like that. But he got a smart ass mouth lmao so he says things a certain way and I be like *side eye* ... sometimes it just ain't that simple.


Ok I get it. You're dating a toddler.



I absolutely am man lmaooooooo. This is what I'm trying to say. Well see that's why I made this post because I wanted to know if I was being fair. I like to be fair idk. I actually like your comments specifically usually in posts because I feel like you're gonna give me your raw opinion even if it's brash. I'm cool with that.


No you're dating a grown man. Stop making excuses for why you have to act in this manner. If you feel you are dating a toddler then why are you so pressed to be his girlfriend.


He admits he has communication issues. Hell he even admits he can be an asshole sometimes and hard to deal with lol. I don't think I'm bugging here. What should I have done better?


I'm really not understanding how it got this far TBH. If he really is immature, childish, non communicative and whatever else then I'm not understanding your attraction towards him. So I'm questioning your choices.

If he is being upfront with you and you are not accepting what he is saying because you need it worded a certain way to feel secure than I go back to my original comment. No one wants to be forced to do something. You either accept it, respect it or walk away. Constant pressuring does appear needy and whiny. He said you guys were in a "relationship", working towards a relationship whatever. So with that go with the flow and work towards that. Focus on how he treats you, his consistency and respect towards you. A "girlfriend" title does not accomplish this in its own, action does.

Observe his nature, if anything you should be the one deciding if he is for you not if you are for him.
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I agree with your points. I feel like because we have different personalities our way of communicating are different and things aren't bad, I just wanted to make sure that I was sure of what this was and he wasn't trying to play me ultimately. I told him I'm not going to force him to do anything he doesn't wanna do and of course I don't wanna be with someone who feels forced to be with me. I'm all for taking it slow but I don't want an open relationship or to feel like I'm just 1 of. He wasn't making his stance clear. But I suppose patience was the key here.
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I don't really understand what the big deal is. It's more about how the relationship is, rather than what you call it, and that's probably what he means? Regardless of what he means there's little point pushing for a movement on this, just let him come around in his own time. What is in a name, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet?


Exactly. I'd be like if you don't get your needy, whiny, insecure butt out of my face.


And like I said, I wasn't talking about now, I was talking about in general and eventually. I wasn't sure if he was cool with being exclusive or he wanted an open relationship... I deserve to know wtf is up and where this is going and where we at. I got mad because after 4 times trying to communicate of course I got frustrated.


Well if you can't get your answer after one discussion with him and he doesn't provide it to you on his own then _________.

If you to ask 4 times....(see paragraph 2)



Well the first time I brought it up when I was drunk and he said should know. So I didn't want to continue the conversation when I was drunk. Then I was like okay I'll continue it in person when I seen em. It ain't really happen cuz we agreed to talk about it in the morning but we didn't so the other day is when we really talked about it. Besides the way he delivers shit be getting me mad like he doesn't know how to properly express his feelings. I realize I have to be more patient with him in that area because it's easy af for me to say how I feel. Not everyone's like that. But he got a smart ass mouth lmao so he says things a certain way and I be like *side eye* ... sometimes it just ain't that simple.


Ok I get it. You're dating a toddler.



I absolutely am man lmaooooooo. This is what I'm trying to say. Well see that's why I made this post because I wanted to know if I was being fair. I like to be fair idk. I actually like your comments specifically usually in posts because I feel like you're gonna give me your raw opinion even if it's brash. I'm cool with that.


No you're dating a grown man. Stop making excuses for why you have to act in this manner. If you feel you are dating a toddler then why are you so pressed to be his girlfriend.


He admits he has communication issues. Hell he even admits he can be an asshole sometimes and hard to deal with lol. I don't think I'm bugging here. What should I have done better?


I'm really not understanding how it got this far TBH. If he really is immature, childish, non communicative and whatever else then I'm not understanding your attraction towards him. So I'm questioning your choices.

If he is being upfront with you and you are not accepting what he is saying because you need it worded a certain way to feel secure than I go back to my original comment. No one wants to be forced to do something. You either accept it, respect it or walk away. Constant pressuring does appear needy and whiny. He said you guys were in a "relationship", working towards a relationship whatever. So with that go with the flow and work towards that. Focus on how he treats you, his consistency and respect towards you. A "girlfriend" title does not accomplish this in its own, action does.

Observe his nature, if anything you should be the one deciding if he is for you not if you are for him.
I agree with your points. I feel like because we have different personalities our way of communicating are different and things aren't bad, I just wanted to make sure that I was sure of what this was and he wasn't trying to play me ultimately. I told him I'm not going to force him to do anything he doesn't wanna do and of course I don't wanna be with someone who feels forced to be with me. I'm all for taking it slow but I don't want an open relationship or to feel like I'm just 1 of. He wasn't making his stance clear. But I suppose patience was the key here.


You have options too. If he wants to take it slow (which is not a bad thing) you take it slow too. If you feel by his actions that you are just 1 of many then you have to decide if you want to stick around and be disrespected. There are some people that do like to work towards a relationship. It doesn't mean they are out cheating, they could do that in a relationship. People can cheat whenever they want. It's not like there's punishment for that. But if you are compatible, have a good time together, not a lot of drama and arguments, like each other's company, and have respect most people don't want to loose that.

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I absolutely agree with you darling. I appreciate your feedback always.
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Well, maybe he is looking for the relationship to progress to a state where it feels so right that you won't need to ask for a definition. I like this quote a lot :

" you should never look for evidence that someone loves you, true love is crystal clear"

On the other hand, this may frustrate you and lead to communication problems. Let it be, try to focus on his actions, not a title. Trust you intuition, you can feel when there is a true connection and love.

I'm in the same type of relationship with an aries guy. But i never asked for a title. I actually dated other men because he was not committing. What made me stay is the connection and most importantly the feeling that our feelings were growing. Now he told me he loved me, right at the moment when i expexted the less, after 2 years aswell.

My main point is that it's best if you let him commit to you. He has to fear to lose you. And right now he is taking you for granted in a way, just because you want a relationship with him. I'm not saying you are cligny. Change your perspective and see if the relationships deepens and grows. Time has a wonderful way of unfolding everything.

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