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So, my mom and I were shopping for wedding dresses this weekend. I had a stylist who was helping out and my mom (Sag) was teasing that things she liked I didn't, and things I liked she didn't. Mentioned to the stylist that was because she was a Sag and I was a Capricorn and that explains it all. Said it in a joking manner. Then, she asks the stylist when her birthday was. Stylist said, very dry like, I don't believe in that. My mom said, she didn't believe in horoscopes but thinks the personality traits are fairly accurate in most cases and asked the stylist what sign she was. She wouldn't tell her. but the stylist said "I don't believe in looking at the stars for guidance, I believe in looking to the man who made them for guidance". It was said, very dryly and almost insultingly.

I looked the stylist in the eye and said "It's not devil worship or anti-Christ. You're thinking of only one aspect of astrology. My mom isn't talking about predicting the future, she's talking about the personality traits of the sun signs". She didn't say a word. She had no humor, no personality, just did her job.

Anyways, we all let it go. it was really no big deal.

I know not everyone understands astrology, and I understand not everyone believes. Most people think it's a crock. I get that. I just wish that girl wasn't so rude about it.

What are your experiences in bringing up astrology in public? I'm curious if it's negative or positive.

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Posted by truecap
What are your experiences in bringing up astrology in public? I'm curious if it's negative or positive.
Mostly negative.
People looks weird to you if you try to guess likes and dislikes by sun sign.
Questing about the ascendant is just something like what's that?, who cares

For me, if I know the sun sign I can try to "manipulate" my customers likes and dislikes without they notice that or even if they notice that, they don't know from where am taking that info.
It's not 100% accurate but helps a lot.
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more people seem to know that astrology isn't as shallow as horoscopes in magazines and newspapers make it out to be. I've always been interested in astrology and birth charts but only recently started studying all these things, so I'm very curious now to look into my friends' charts and maybe discuss it with them. Sometimes it comes up in conversations with people who I'm meeting for the first time too, and we check their charts. My experience so far is that even those who are skeptical at first find really accurate, in a way even helpful especially as far as romantic relationships are concerned.
I kind of think some folks care about astrology more than they'd like to admit haha, and for that reason might give a certain attitude (whereas others would simply not care).
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'She wouldn't tell her. but the stylist said "I don't believe in looking at the stars for guidance, I believe in looking to the man who made them for guidance". It was said, very dryly and almost insultingly.'

Condescending. ๐Ÿ˜

Way to spread the good news.

Yep. It came across as very condescending. I don't care what she says to me, but don't treat my 72 year old mom that way.

Mom kept calling her sour pus after that (not to her face, though). lol!
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My mom is just an open book about it. It's very cute.

When I was pregnant with my son (20 years ago), she went to the OB/GYN with me. She had the Farmer's Almanac out and was showing the gals in the waiting room how it designates boy/girl births based on the moon. They were all into it. Poor receptionist was making copies for every one. lol!!!

Needless to say, my son was born on a "boy" date. She was right.

We got good reactions that time.
And yeah, Farmer's Almanacis similar to astrology but is mostly based on the moon.
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So, my mom and I were shopping for wedding dresses this weekend. I had a stylist who was helping out and my mom (Sag) was teasing that things she liked I didn't, and things I liked she didn't. Mentioned to the stylist that was because she was a Sag and I was a Capricorn and that explains it all. Said it in a joking manner. Then, she asks the stylist when her birthday was. Stylist said, very dry like, I don't believe in that. My mom said, she didn't believe in horoscopes but thinks the personality traits are fairly accurate in most cases and asked the stylist what sign she was. She wouldn't tell her. but the stylist said "I don't believe in looking at the stars for guidance, I believe in looking to the man who made them for guidance". It was said, very dryly and almost insultingly.

I looked the stylist in the eye and said "It's not devil worship or anti-Christ. You're thinking of only one aspect of astrology. My mom isn't talking about predicting the future, she's talking about the personality traits of the sun signs". She didn't say a word. She had no humor, no personality, just did her job.


So let's guess her sign! ๐Ÿ˜„


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Sturdy body - wide hips.
No humor.
Just there to do her job, not very engaging.
Not a very outgoing personality. Not unfriendly, but not friendly either.
Had a hickey on her neck - no effort to cover it up.


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So, my mom and I were shopping for wedding dresses this weekend. I had a stylist who was helping out and my mom (Sag) was teasing that things she liked I didn't, and things I liked she didn't. Mentioned to the stylist that was because she was a Sag and I was a Capricorn and that explains it all. Said it in a joking manner. Then, she asks the stylist when her birthday was. Stylist said, very dry like, I don't believe in that. My mom said, she didn't believe in horoscopes but thinks the personality traits are fairly accurate in most cases and asked the stylist what sign she was. She wouldn't tell her. but the stylist said "I don't believe in looking at the stars for guidance, I believe in looking to the man who made them for guidance". It was said, very dryly and almost insultingly.

I looked the stylist in the eye and said "It's not devil worship or anti-Christ. You're thinking of only one aspect of astrology. My mom isn't talking about predicting the future, she's talking about the personality traits of the sun signs". She didn't say a word. She had no humor, no personality, just did her job.

Anyways, we all let it go. it was really no big deal.

I know not everyone understands astrology, and I understand not everyone believes. Most people think it's a crock. I get that. I just wish that girl wasn't so rude about it.

What are your experiences in bringing up astrology in public? I'm curious if it's negative or positive.
I've had many instances of the same type of experience. I just said "oh ok" and then didn't give any more thought to it - each to their own - and you will find just as many who will want to talk about it and not be so close-minded about so many things ...

I think the Great Spirit wants us to explore and be open so that we can be solid in our foundations of who we are no matter what ...
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Yeah I get similar reactions too when I accidentally slip. Supposedly they don't believe in astrology, but then why so uncomfortable when it comes up in conversation? Some non-believers won't even tell you their sign !
Some of them read one verse in the Bible and take it over zealously. They don't bother to see the big picture or what else is written about it.
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So, my mom and I were shopping for wedding dresses this weekend. I had a stylist who was helping out and my mom (Sag) was teasing that things she liked I didn't, and things I liked she didn't. Mentioned to the stylist that was because she was a Sag and I was a Capricorn and that explains it all. Said it in a joking manner. Then, she asks the stylist when her birthday was. Stylist said, very dry like, I don't believe in that. My mom said, she didn't believe in horoscopes but thinks the personality traits are fairly accurate in most cases and asked the stylist what sign she was. She wouldn't tell her. but the stylist said "I don't believe in looking at the stars for guidance, I believe in looking to the man who made them for guidance". It was said, very dryly and almost insultingly.

I looked the stylist in the eye and said "It's not devil worship or anti-Christ. You're thinking of only one aspect of astrology. My mom isn't talking about predicting the future, she's talking about the personality traits of the sun signs". She didn't say a word. She had no humor, no personality, just did her job.

Anyways, we all let it go. it was really no big deal.

I know not everyone understands astrology, and I understand not everyone believes. Most people think it's a crock. I get that. I just wish that girl wasn't so rude about it.

What are your experiences in bringing up astrology in public? I'm curious if it's negative or positive.
I've had many instances of the same type of experience. I just said "oh ok" and then didn't give any more thought to it - each to their own - and you will find just as many who will want to talk about it and not be so close-minded about so many things ...

I think the Great Spirit wants us to explore and be open so that we can be solid in our foundations of who we are no matter what ...
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It didn't really bother me that much, but my mom felt insulted.
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I live in a country where astrology is very much frowned upon, and not because of any religious reasons - just because they believe it's BS, so I nevvver bring it up first unless I know the person, and hardly even then.

Now, you are her customer and I think her behaviour was really bad. She doesn't have to like it or even comment on it, but the rudeness is unacceptable, imo. get another stylist, is what I would have done - this chick isn't professional.

Again, congrats!๐Ÿ™‚
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There was another mom in there with her daughter and they were sitting in the chairs while we were trying on dresses. Mom got to talking to the other mom (the Sag knows no strangers). I came out in the dress I ended up buying and My mom, on purpose, in front of the stylist, goes "that dress is SO Capricorn!!!". The other mom then commented and said her daughter kept trying on "pisces" style dresses, said her daughter liked the fishtail look. (I have no idea how much that mom knew about astrology but it was funny).

Mom got tickled about that.
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So, my mom and I were shopping for wedding dresses this weekend. I had a stylist who was helping out and my mom (Sag) was teasing that things she liked I didn't, and things I liked she didn't. Mentioned to the stylist that was because she was a Sag and I was a Capricorn and that explains it all. Said it in a joking manner. Then, she asks the stylist when her birthday was. Stylist said, very dry like, I don't believe in that. My mom said, she didn't believe in horoscopes but thinks the personality traits are fairly accurate in most cases and asked the stylist what sign she was. She wouldn't tell her. but the stylist said "I don't believe in looking at the stars for guidance, I believe in looking to the man who made them for guidance". It was said, very dryly and almost insultingly.

I looked the stylist in the eye and said "It's not devil worship or anti-Christ. You're thinking of only one aspect of astrology. My mom isn't talking about predicting the future, she's talking about the personality traits of the sun signs". She didn't say a word. She had no humor, no personality, just did her job.


So let's guess her sign! ๐Ÿ˜„

Sturdy body - wide hips.
No humor.
Just there to do her job, not very engaging.
Not a very outgoing personality. Not unfriendly, but not friendly either.
Had a hickey on her neck - no effort to cover it up.


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gross - not to mention the stick up her ass
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Yeah I get similar reactions too when I accidentally slip. Supposedly they don't believe in astrology, but then why so uncomfortable when it comes up in conversation? Some non-believers won't even tell you their sign !
Some of them read one verse in the Bible and take it over zealously. They don't bother to see the big picture or what else is written about it.
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bible thumpers - very sad people because they will never grow spiritually into anything ...
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I live in a country where astrology is very much frowned upon, and not because of any religious reasons - just because they believe it's BS, so I nevvver bring it up first unless I know the person, and hardly even then.

Now, you are her customer and I think her behaviour was really bad. She doesn't have to like it or even comment on it, but the rudeness is unacceptable, imo. get another stylist, is what I would have done - this chick isn't professional.

Again, congrats!๐Ÿ™‚
I agree that was very unprofessional even if she doesn't agree she could have humored you a bit and enjoyed the conversation rather than thumbing her nose ... tell yer Mom we love her !
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Yeah I get similar reactions too when I accidentally slip. Supposedly they don't believe in astrology, but then why so uncomfortable when it comes up in conversation? Some non-believers won't even tell you their sign !
Some of them read one verse in the Bible and take it over zealously. They don't bother to see the big picture or what else is written about it.
bible thumpers - very sad people because they will never grow spiritually into anything ...
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The sad thing is the Church teaches love and acceptance....that judgment is up to God, not the Christian. Sure, there are dos and don'ts but, we're not supposed to look down on others sins because we have our own. I guess it's just human nature

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I talk about it in public any opportunity I can get.

I've not been ridiculed (in my face) yet. I don't care what they say once I leave either. *shrugs*

Last year when I went apartment hunting.....I ended up giving the leasing agent and two maintenance men a flash reading.....lol.
As long as you didn't sign that lease during a mercury retrograde!!! lol!
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Agree, the stylist shouldn't have acted like that. I'm assuming you were paying her or she was just working in the dress shop. So you are the customer. It's not difficult to say, "oh I don't believe in astrology, so I'm not sure what my sign is" or whatever. She was probably really religious in a traditional sense and sometimes astrology could be viewed as a religion by some, so she took great offense.

I would never bring up astrology in public, because I too, find it embarrassing. I try not to even post about it on my Facebook page. I would only do so if I knew the person well or if that person was receptive to talking about it. This is a small hobby, a guilty pleasure of mine, nothing more.
I just can't buy the religious aspect because of the exposed hickey. She was married, but still, I don't think someone super religious would be advertising evidence of sex.
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Yeah I get similar reactions too when I accidentally slip. Supposedly they don't believe in astrology, but then why so uncomfortable when it comes up in conversation? Some non-believers won't even tell you their sign !
Some of them read one verse in the Bible and take it over zealously. They don't bother to see the big picture or what else is written about it.
bible thumpers - very sad people because they will never grow spiritually into anything ...
The sad thing is the Church teaches love and acceptance....that judgment is up to God, not the Christian. Sure, there are dos and don'ts but, we're not supposed to look down on others sins because we have our own. I guess it's just human nature

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humans can naturally be assholes - and I believe that it depends on the Church - a lot of them teach judgment - even though it is up to God - I know a lot of so called Christians that believe that their way is the right way - the only way and that they need to set themselves apart and higher than others - like sinners ... so if they don't get that from their church then where are they getting that .......... who said recently religion is terrorism in a nutshell - if you don't believe the way I do, then you are wrong - because what I believe is the only right way ...
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I need advice guys pleasee
There's a guy i really like and he's a scorpio. i wanted him to notice me so i added him on instagram and on facebook. And when we see eachother on college he looks at me and i feel like hes just observing my behaviour.. Anything that i do he notices example if i change place that i was staying he will immediately start turning around to see where am i.. And today he laughed out loud with his friends and then turned right away to see if i noticed it... So please any advice what can i do about it or to explain to me what is on his mind right now โ€šโ€š
Please dont tell me i should say hi to him cause i already feel like i ve done enough to get his attention
Put this on the scorpio board.
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I have all my co workers believing in mercury retrograde. Every time the computer crashes, I look it up and yep, it's mercury retrograde. lol!
It got to where they would ask me to look it up.
lol on a more basic level, I can tell when it's a full moon - my son asked me all about that when he was younger and then later in his teens he admitted that he had been observing over the years and that he was noticing the very same things that lead him then to look to see if it truly was a full moon - he got it - so proud !
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Posted by ElleDuMonde
I'm fascinated by others not wanting to be judged by strangers.

Not trying to be rude....I just really am.
I feel guilty being into astrology. I don't necessarily consider it a good thing to follow so I don't want to potentially go back and forth with people who feel the same way I do underneath, and I surely don't want my mom to go back and forth because I don't like I introduced her to it.

She is dating and said she had read about their compatibility. I cringed again. It has done nothing good for me or my relationships. It's just entertaining.
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If I was in her place I'd use astrology to my benefit for knowing my customers likes and dislikes... It can give me a little insight atleast...teeny tiny bit.


So far no.. None of them know much. My friends know little about sun signs.. I usually listen.. I'd speak up if anyone had more knowledge but none seem to, so I keep quiet.. Talk as much as I feel they can communicate comfortably...
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'She wouldn't tell her. but the stylist said "I don't believe in looking at the stars for guidance, I believe in looking to the man who made them for guidance". It was said, very dryly and almost insultingly.'

Condescending. ๐Ÿ˜

Way to spread the good news.

Yep. It came across as very condescending. I don't care what she says to me, but don't treat my 72 year old mom that way.

Mom kept calling her sour pus after that (not to her face, though). lol!
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Are you implying that my mother is a Heathen... ?


If she sounded the way I *think* she sounded,

I would've gone there.

Idk which would embarrass my mom more though--

that woman's comment or mine. ๐Ÿ˜„


Either way, she probably would have lost my business.


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'She wouldn't tell her. but the stylist said "I don't believe in looking at the stars for guidance, I believe in looking to the man who made them for guidance". It was said, very dryly and almost insultingly.'

Condescending. ๐Ÿ˜

Way to spread the good news.

Yep. It came across as very condescending. I don't care what she says to me, but don't treat my 72 year old mom that way.

Mom kept calling her sour pus after that (not to her face, though). lol!

Are you implying that my mother is a Heathen... ?


If she sounded the way I *think* she sounded,

I would've gone there.

Idk which would embarrass my mom more though--

that woman's comment or mine. ๐Ÿ˜„


Either way, she probably would have lost my business.


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My mom and I have been laughing about it ever since. It's a funny memory for us. ๐Ÿ™‚
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So, my mom and I were shopping for wedding dresses this weekend. I had a stylist who was helping out and my mom (Sag) was teasing that things she liked I didn't, and things I liked she didn't. Mentioned to the stylist that was because she was a Sag and I was a Capricorn and that explains it all. Said it in a joking manner. Then, she asks the stylist when her birthday was. Stylist said, very dry like, I don't believe in that. My mom said, she didn't believe in horoscopes but thinks the personality traits are fairly accurate in most cases and asked the stylist what sign she was. She wouldn't tell her. but the stylist said "I don't believe in looking at the stars for guidance, I believe in looking to the man who made them for guidance". It was said, very dryly and almost insultingly.

I looked the stylist in the eye and said "It's not devil worship or anti-Christ. You're thinking of only one aspect of astrology. My mom isn't talking about predicting the future, she's talking about the personality traits of the sun signs". She didn't say a word. She had no humor, no personality, just did her job.

Anyways, we all let it go. it was really no big deal.

I know not everyone understands astrology, and I understand not everyone believes. Most people think it's a crock. I get that. I just wish that girl wasn't so rude about it.

What are your experiences in bringing up astrology in public? I'm curious if it's negative or positive.
If she knew about astrology she wouldnt reply that manner, because you being a capricorn wont be shut in situations like that, you take your pistol and boom ๐Ÿ™‚ She has no more words for that.
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It was obvious from the very beginning that the lady wasn't interested in hearing it ... you and your mother should have respected that, and stopped trying to force her into talking about it, or just hearing about it.


Just like .... if you didn't want a religious person talking to about god, and they continued to try and make you listen .. makes YOU the rude person.


She didn't want to hear it, but, you wouldn't allow her that curtesy .. and then you and your mother call her names because she made a decision not to engage.


that was wrong of you .... you were the person in the wrong



As far as public astrology .... I'm obviously way more perceptive than you, I would have picked up on the clue that this line of conservation was offensive to her, and I would have stopped immediately.

I know the people I am around, and know beforehand whether or not it would offend them. Or, if I didn't know ahead of time, I would be able to gauge how they would feel about it at the very beginning .... if they were interested then I would keep talking about it, if they are not, then I'd stfu



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I don't like to bring up astrology unless I know for a fact someone is really into it. I like to observe how people see other people, but I wont bring astrology into it. like when I was on vacation and we were all discussing ( a handful of people) about music and people who sing these songs, and how they sound, react, and I was mentally recounting astrology in my head...but I would never blurt out to them what I thought. it would just be too weird. that's why we have message boards like this one where we can openly discuss it.
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It was obvious from the very beginning that the lady wasn't interested in hearing it ... you and your mother should have respected that, and stopped trying to force her into talking about it, or just hearing about it.


Just like .... if you didn't want a religious person talking to about god, and they continued to try and make you listen .. makes YOU the rude person.


She didn't want to hear it, but, you wouldn't allow her that curtesy .. and then you and your mother call her names because she made a decision not to engage.


that was wrong of you .... you were the person in the wrong



As far as public astrology .... I'm obviously way more perceptive than you, I would have picked up on the clue that this line of conservation was offensive to her, and I would have stopped immediately.

I know the people I am around, and know beforehand whether or not it would offend them. Or, if I didn't know ahead of time, I would be able to gauge how they would feel about it at the very beginning .... if they were interested then I would keep talking about it, if they are not, then I'd stfu


I don't disagree with that.
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It was obvious from the very beginning that the lady wasn't interested in hearing it ... you and your mother should have respected that, and stopped trying to force her into talking about it, or just hearing about it.


Just like .... if you didn't want a religious person talking to about god, and they continued to try and make you listen .. makes YOU the rude person.


She didn't want to hear it, but, you wouldn't allow her that curtesy .. and then you and your mother call her names because she made a decision not to engage.


that was wrong of you .... you were the person in the wrong



As far as public astrology .... I'm obviously way more perceptive than you, I would have picked up on the clue that this line of conservation was offensive to her, and I would have stopped immediately.

I know the people I am around, and know beforehand whether or not it would offend them. Or, if I didn't know ahead of time, I would be able to gauge how they would feel about it at the very beginning .... if they were interested then I would keep talking about it, if they are not, then I'd stfu


I don't disagree with that.
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lol I don't either.