Christianity & Astrology?

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You can't be a true Christian unless you accept that astrology has some truth to it... but you're not allowed to practice it. If you practice it, you can still be a true Christian but you can't reconcile your Christian beliefs with your astrological practices. You're just like, knowingly sinning.

You can be someone who calls themselves Christian though, regardless of your beliefs. At this point in history all traditional religions have become bastardized versions of their original selves, which were already bastardized versions of cultural traditions and beliefs.
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Posted by cornmaizeshark
You can't be a true Christian unless you accept that astrology has some truth to it... but you're not allowed to practice it. If you practice it, you can still be a true Christian but you can't reconcile your Christian beliefs with your astrological practices. You're just like, knowingly sinning.

You can be someone who calls themselves Christian though, regardless of your beliefs. At this point in history all traditional religions have become bastardized versions of their original selves, which were already bastardized versions of cultural traditions and beliefs.
what do you mean "astrological practices"?

and don't you think thats a bit ridged...that if you believe that you can relate to your sign ...your not a true christian -_-

its like saying if you believe in astrology you don't believe in science .... -_-
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You can't be a true Christian unless you accept that astrology has some truth to it... but you're not allowed to practice it. If you practice it, you can still be a true Christian but you can't reconcile your Christian beliefs with your astrological practices. You're just like, knowingly sinning.

You can be someone who calls themselves Christian though, regardless of your beliefs. At this point in history all traditional religions have become bastardized versions of their original selves, which were already bastardized versions of cultural traditions and beliefs.
what do you mean "astrological practices"?

and don't you think thats a bit ridged...that if you believe that you can relate to your sign ...your not a true christian -_-

its like saying if you believe in astrology you don't believe in science .... -_-
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astrological practices as in practicing astrology. To whatever extent. Studying it, doing natal charts, horoscopes, etc.

Yes I do believe it is rigid. True Christianity is rigid though. The path to salvation is straight and narrow.

(Luke 13:22-30)

13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

You can reconcile astrology and science to some extent, although for most people astrology *is* a pseudoscience or an art or simply a metaphor. Science is a method for critiquing the world around you. Christianity is a set of beliefs but also a code of conduct. Astrology is expressly forbidden in that code of conduct.

-And not because Christianity teaches that astrology is false- because it teaches that it is true. It's like taking the apple in the garden of eden- you'll surely die.
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Isaiah 47:12-15

12 Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail.

13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.

14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.

15 Thus shall they be unto thee with whom thou hast laboured, even thy merchants, from thy youth: they shall wander every one to his quarter; none shall save thee.

Seems cut and dry to me *shrugs*
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You can't be a true Christian unless you accept that astrology has some truth to it... but you're not allowed to practice it. If you practice it, you can still be a true Christian but you can't reconcile your Christian beliefs with your astrological practices. You're just like, knowingly sinning.

You can be someone who calls themselves Christian though, regardless of your beliefs. At this point in history all traditional religions have become bastardized versions of their original selves, which were already bastardized versions of cultural traditions and beliefs.
what do you mean "astrological practices"?

and don't you think thats a bit ridged...that if you believe that you can relate to your sign ...your not a true christian -_-

its like saying if you believe in astrology you don't believe in science .... -_-


astrological practices as in practicing astrology. To whatever extent. Studying it, doing natal charts, horoscopes, etc.

Yes I do believe it is rigid. True Christianity is rigid though. The path to salvation is straight and narrow.

(Luke 13:22-30)

13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

You can reconcile astrology and science to some extent, although for most people astrology *is* a pseudoscience or an art or simply a metaphor. Science is a method for critiquing the world around you. Christianity is a set of beliefs but also a code of conduct. Astrology is expressly forbidden in that code of conduct.

-And not because Christianity teaches that astrology is false- because it teaches that it is true. It's like taking the apple in the garden of eden- you'll surely die.
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the reason I bring up science is because alot of science directly contradicts the bible ...like for example evolution ...that is taught to us in school directly goes against the bible

or christian scientist that don't give their children medicine b/c they believe that god will heal them thru prayer ...while others believe that doctors, medicine, and science are the answers to those prayers...

the bible is up for interpretation ...if you were to follow a ridge set of rules ...we are ALL going to hell for something ...

and of course I'm not accusing you of this ...but saying your going to hell for "practicing astrology" but having pre-martial sex, masturbating (or spilling seed) eating shrimp, lying, wearing wool, adultery not honoring thy mother and father ... I mean the list goes on and on ...I feel like people single out these one thing ...or completely IGNORE other THINGS THAT ARE IN THE BIBLE
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You can't be a true Christian unless you accept that astrology has some truth to it... but you're not allowed to practice it. If you practice it, you can still be a true Christian but you can't reconcile your Christian beliefs with your astrological practices. You're just like, knowingly sinning.

You can be someone who calls themselves Christian though, regardless of your beliefs. At this point in history all traditional religions have become bastardized versions of their original selves, which were already bastardized versions of cultural traditions and beliefs.
what do you mean "astrological practices"?

and don't you think thats a bit ridged...that if you believe that you can relate to your sign ...your not a true christian -_-

its like saying if you believe in astrology you don't believe in science .... -_-


astrological practices as in practicing astrology. To whatever extent. Studying it, doing natal charts, horoscopes, etc.

Yes I do believe it is rigid. True Christianity is rigid though. The path to salvation is straight and narrow.

(Luke 13:22-30)

13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

You can reconcile astrology and science to some extent, although for most people astrology *is* a pseudoscience or an art or simply a metaphor. Science is a method for critiquing the world around you. Christianity is a set of beliefs but also a code of conduct. Astrology is expressly forbidden in that code of conduct.

-And not because Christianity teaches that astrology is false- because it teaches that it is true. It's like taking the apple in the garden of eden- you'll surely die.
the reason I bring up science is because alot of science directly contradicts the bible ...like for example evolution ...that is taught to us in school directly goes against the bible

or christian scientist that don't give their children medicine b/c they believe that god will heal them thru prayer ...while others believe that doctors, medicine, and science are the answers to those prayers...

the bible is up for interpretation ...if you were to follow a ridge set of rules ...we are ALL going to hell for something ...

and of course I'm not accusing you of this ...but saying your going to hell for "practicing astrology" but having pre-martial sex, masturbating (or spilling seed) eating shrimp, lying, wearing wool, adultery not honoring thy mother and father ... I mean the list goes on and on ...I feel like people single out these one thing ...or completely IGNORE other THINGS THAT ARE IN THE BIBLE
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I agree that a lot of the bible is contradicted by science. I also entirely agree with your last paragraph. People pick and choose what to believe and what to ignore. This is actually something directly referenced in the book of Revelations, the last book of the bible. John prophesies different "churches" which are schools of thought, and several of them are ones that pick and choose what to follow- these ones are corrupt. Even the ones who pick and choose love and acceptance but discard the rigorous disciplines and life style s are specifically called out and condemned.

And yes, thank you for not accusing me of that, because I'm not saying anyone's going to Hell for practicing astrology. I'm just saying what Christianity teaches. I, myself am not one, and I don't even believe in Hell.

These are just my interpretations of Christian teachings and history. Based on evidence and historical premise though, not just bias or opinion.

There are a lot of live and let live Christians these days who claim to be the true Christians. The problem is? The people who started Christianity would burn them at the stake for blasphemy. So I guess when I say "true" Christians, I really mean "original" Christians.
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You can't be a true Christian unless you accept that astrology has some truth to it... but you're not allowed to practice it. If you practice it, you can still be a true Christian but you can't reconcile your Christian beliefs with your astrological practices. You're just like, knowingly sinning.

You can be someone who calls themselves Christian though, regardless of your beliefs. At this point in history all traditional religions have become bastardized versions of their original selves, which were already bastardized versions of cultural traditions and beliefs.
what do you mean "astrological practices"?

and don't you think thats a bit ridged...that if you believe that you can relate to your sign ...your not a true christian -_-

its like saying if you believe in astrology you don't believe in science .... -_-


astrological practices as in practicing astrology. To whatever extent. Studying it, doing natal charts, horoscopes, etc.

Yes I do believe it is rigid. True Christianity is rigid though. The path to salvation is straight and narrow.

(Luke 13:22-30)

13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

You can reconcile astrology and science to some extent, although for most people astrology *is* a pseudoscience or an art or simply a metaphor. Science is a method for critiquing the world around you. Christianity is a set of beliefs but also a code of conduct. Astrology is expressly forbidden in that code of conduct.

-And not because Christianity teaches that astrology is false- because it teaches that it is true. It's like taking the apple in the garden of eden- you'll surely die.
the reason I bring up science is because alot of science directly contradicts the bible ...like for example evolution ...that is taught to us in school directly goes against the bible

or christian scientist that don't give their children medicine b/c they believe that god will heal them thru prayer ...while others believe that doctors, medicine, and science are the answers to those prayers...

the bible is up for interpretation ...if you were to follow a ridge set of rules ...we are ALL going to hell for something ...

and of course I'm not accusing you of this ...but saying your going to hell for "practicing astrology" but having pre-martial sex, masturbating (or spilling seed) eating shrimp, lying, wearing wool, adultery not honoring thy mother and father ... I mean the list goes on and on ...I feel like people single out these one thing ...or completely IGNORE other THINGS THAT ARE IN THE BIBLE
I agree that a lot of the bible is contradicted by science. I also entirely agree with your last paragraph. People pick and choose what to believe and what to ignore. This is actually something directly referenced in the book of Revelations, the last book of the bible. John prophesies different "churches" which are schools of thought, and several of them are ones that pick and choose what to follow- these ones are corrupt. Even the ones who pick and choose love and acceptance but discard the rigorous disciplines and life style s are specifically called out and condemned.

And yes, thank you for not accusing me of that, because I'm not saying anyone's going to Hell for practicing astrology. I'm just saying what Christianity teaches. I, myself am not one, and I don't even believe in Hell.

These are just my interpretations of Christian teachings and history. Based on evidence and historical premise though, not just bias or opinion.

There are a lot of live and let live Christians these days who claim to be the true Christians. The problem is? The people who started Christianity would burn them at the stake for blasphemy. So I guess when I say "true" Christians, I really mean "original" Christians.
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yes ...I agree with the last statement but some of the things in the bible are not relevant to 2017 ...we can't stone dishonorable people

I would like to think that people as a whole understand the context at the time ...because we need to be fertile and reproduce ..it was written not to spill seed ..not cause it was dirty cause at the time it wasn't practical ...

I'd like to think that we as a people evolved from some of the more gruesome parts of the teaching and some of our prejudices the bible was written by a man ..not god ..and it was king james VERSION of the bible meaning it was translated 🙂 I'm glad that we could talk about this civilly cause I know its hard when our own personal beliefs are being discussed ..
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Ive worked at the convent. One of the sisters told me even yoga is against God.
Yes. It is.

Because yoga has religious roots in Hinduism. But then again Christianity itself has some of its roots in ancient pagan religions.




So YMCAs are basically a satan's work?

I am glad I quit...LOL

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LOL!

Well at least you can see the lack of logic in some groups. It makes no sense to say someone is sinning by going for yoga classes since not everyone who goes for these classes is a Christian.



People need to get their heads out of their asses.

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You can't be a true Christian unless you accept that astrology has some truth to it... but you're not allowed to practice it. If you practice it, you can still be a true Christian but you can't reconcile your Christian beliefs with your astrological practices. You're just like, knowingly sinning.

You can be someone who calls themselves Christian though, regardless of your beliefs. At this point in history all traditional religions have become bastardized versions of their original selves, which were already bastardized versions of cultural traditions and beliefs.
what do you mean "astrological practices"?

and don't you think thats a bit ridged...that if you believe that you can relate to your sign ...your not a true christian -_-

its like saying if you believe in astrology you don't believe in science .... -_-


astrological practices as in practicing astrology. To whatever extent. Studying it, doing natal charts, horoscopes, etc.

Yes I do believe it is rigid. True Christianity is rigid though. The path to salvation is straight and narrow.

(Luke 13:22-30)

13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

You can reconcile astrology and science to some extent, although for most people astrology *is* a pseudoscience or an art or simply a metaphor. Science is a method for critiquing the world around you. Christianity is a set of beliefs but also a code of conduct. Astrology is expressly forbidden in that code of conduct.

-And not because Christianity teaches that astrology is false- because it teaches that it is true. It's like taking the apple in the garden of eden- you'll surely die.
the reason I bring up science is because alot of science directly contradicts the bible ...like for example evolution ...that is taught to us in school directly goes against the bible

or christian scientist that don't give their children medicine b/c they believe that god will heal them thru prayer ...while others believe that doctors, medicine, and science are the answers to those prayers...

the bible is up for interpretation ...if you were to follow a ridge set of rules ...we are ALL going to hell for something ...

and of course I'm not accusing you of this ...but saying your going to hell for "practicing astrology" but having pre-martial sex, masturbating (or spilling seed) eating shrimp, lying, wearing wool, adultery not honoring thy mother and father ... I mean the list goes on and on ...I feel like people single out these one thing ...or completely IGNORE other THINGS THAT ARE IN THE BIBLE
I agree that a lot of the bible is contradicted by science. I also entirely agree with your last paragraph. People pick and choose what to believe and what to ignore. This is actually something directly referenced in the book of Revelations, the last book of the bible. John prophesies different "churches" which are schools of thought, and several of them are ones that pick and choose what to follow- these ones are corrupt. Even the ones who pick and choose love and acceptance but discard the rigorous disciplines and life style s are specifically called out and condemned.

And yes, thank you for not accusing me of that, because I'm not saying anyone's going to Hell for practicing astrology. I'm just saying what Christianity teaches. I, myself am not one, and I don't even believe in Hell.

These are just my interpretations of Christian teachings and history. Based on evidence and historical premise though, not just bias or opinion.

There are a lot of live and let live Christians these days who claim to be the true Christians. The problem is? The people who started Christianity would burn them at the stake for blasphemy. So I guess when I say "true" Christians, I really mean "original" Christians.
yes ...I agree with the last statement but some of the things in the bible are not relevant to 2017 ...we can't stone dishonorable people

I would like to think that people as a whole understand the context at the time ...because we need to be fertile and reproduce ..it was written not to spill seed ..not cause it was dirty cause at the time it wasn't practical ...

I'd like to think that we as a people evolved from some of the more gruesome parts of the teaching and some of our prejudices the bible was written by a man ..not god ..and it was king james VERSION of the bible meaning it was translated 🙂 I'm glad that we could talk about this civilly cause I know its hard when our own personal beliefs are being discussed ..
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See, I just don't agree with that interpretation. But yes, I will say since I'm not religious I am very detached from this. And so I think it's easier for me to not get offended so I give you a lot of credit for keeping an open dialogue and civility. That's a hard thing when it's your personal beliefs being critiqued. Much respect 🙂 People on the internet agreeing to disagree = hope for humanity? lol
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Many say you can't be a Christian and believe in Astrolgy.. What are your thoughts??
i wanna believe what i wanna believe. 😛

i believe in God, but not religious practices so much. sometimes,they really disappoint me, and i dont like the restriction so much. but God/universe is an endless boundless love.

astrology is discovering the stars, and i really like astronomy alot! i wanna study it part time too., like go beyond astronomy 101.
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Ive worked at the convent. One of the sisters told me even yoga is against God.
Yes. It is.

Because yoga has religious roots in Hinduism. But then again Christianity itself has some of its roots in ancient pagan religions.




So YMCAs are basically a satan's work?

I am glad I quit...LOL


LOL!

Well at least you can see the lack of logic in some groups. It makes no sense to say someone is sinning by going for yoga classes since not everyone who goes for these classes is a Christian.



People need to get their heads out of their asses.



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Its a sin not to be a Christian...

I am a jewish so I can say whatever I want...
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Ive worked at the convent. One of the sisters told me even yoga is against God.

Because time you spending on stars or yoga or horoscopes should be spent praying to THE Lord and he will resolve all of your issues. All other things are waste of time. And it is a kind of sin.

Off to read your answers now...
Gemi...they got themselves Christian approved yoga....its called Praise Moves lol

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I cant laugh. I shouldn't. I mustn't. I BWHAHAHAHAHA 🙂
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Posted by Gemitati
Ive worked at the convent. One of the sisters told me even yoga is against God.

Because time you spending on stars or yoga or horoscopes should be spent praying to THE Lord and he will resolve all of your issues. All other things are waste of time. And it is a kind of sin.

Off to read your answers now...
Wow even yoga? But what if you're doing yoga as a form of exercise, is that still against Christianity? Wowww
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Posted by m200991
We live in a world where people like to see things in black and white; however, there is an entire spectrum of colors out there. Christianity & Astrology together just resides in the color space not visible to most, so I totally think it's possible. Besides... who are these "many" other people who have taken it upon themselves to place boundaries or pass judgment on what it is someone chooses to put their faith and/or beliefs in? They seem to think themselves pretty important in order to do so.
These many people are the people in the church... I can give so many stories on these "many" people... ughhh, its a lot
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I guess that means Harry Potter is off limits too?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_debates_over_the_Harry_Potter_series#Evangelicalism

Religious debates over the Harry Potter series of books by J. K. Rowling are based on claims that the novels contain occult or Satanic subtexts. A number of Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox Christians have argued against the series, as have some Shia and Sunni Muslims.