@raad182
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Posted by tiziani
Same difference, really.
What do you mean?
Better to keep it light n fun. Trust me, doing the sharing of past fears, secrets, pains with someone and then they turn their back on you is worse.
Cos when you're a try-hard, everything will seem harder than usual.
I have had theses unintentionally. I believe it starts with you. It started with me... so, I drew it to me. It starts with you. It's starts independently and then it is shared, and if you both choose, it becomes one... greater than the two.
If the power and depth is naturally strong in you, you will influence quite naturally.
It doesn't always have to be vocalized... it just a meeting of energy... energy shared.
It is not meant to be a forever... a guarantee of forever. It just is until...
What you guys are saying make some sense...
When you act like everything is light and fun the person will feel more open and eventually will go deeper...
As I try the face to face approach maybe they fear being judged and stuff...
Its about letting go and not giving a fuark
Let it be...
Posted by raad182
What you guys are saying make some sense...When you act like everything is light and fun the person will feel more open and eventually will go deeper...
As I try the face to face approach maybe they fear being judged and stuff...
Its about letting go and not giving a fuark
Let it be...
Posted by tiziani
Same difference, really.What do you mean?
The underlying feeling that drives someone to say "I wanna get into our fears, desires, you know... really get into it!"
and someone else to say "I want to do something fun and light"
... it's probably the same feeling driving them both in the end. That's what Teena always tells me and I tend to agree.
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Yup... it's the same?
You can't really ask for these things. It has to be natural and it has to be the choice of each individual. It's also not rational so you can't have apply logic to it. To go deep and soul merging means going into the basement where you keep your dirtiest clothes. How often do you want to go there? How often do you want to take someone there?
And you need to be a good listener. Fortunately I've never been in a love relationship that wasn't deep. And I have many friends that just open up with me. That talk about their intimate relationships, their failures, their professional struggles. But I never ask anything before. And even then probably I won't say much. They will know much better than I do how to deal with it. Sometimes it takes three conversations for a friend to actually open up on a subject. But again I probably never asked or judge anything. Just let it things happen really.
Pluto Scorpio House 8
But how do you know that a relationship can grow into something so deep? I dont want to waste my time, as everybody else...
Posted by raad182
Everytime I try to go deeper in someone feelings, past, secrets, pains and fears...I get the same response " I dont want something so intense, I want something fun and light "Venus in the 12th
Opposite Moon and Pluto
Trine Uranus and Neptune
I have venus in the 12th with the guy I'm interested in. I'm currently waiting while he figures out what he wants 😢 I sometimes wonder if Venus in the 12th is a one sided feeling. I'm tired of him playing hard to get!!!
But I'll still wait. 😛
Venus in the 12th = you're going to die alone.
I have the same placement.
Posted by raad182
Everytime I try to go deeper in someone feelings, past, secrets, pains and fears...I get the same response " I dont want something so intense, I want something fun and light "Venus in the 12th
Opposite Moon and Pluto
Trine Uranus and Neptune
Do these people have a lot of air in their charts? There's nothing wrong with having fun. Playing together can lead to much deeper bonding. No one likes to be probed too deeply. Become friends first and the rest should follow. Not to over simplify the problem. I have a 12th house Venus too, in Pisces so I want to bond right away with someone I like/love but waiting and just having fun has its rewards. Be patient if you can.
Posted by Happy_Aqua
True soul merging happens when both people want it and when both people are open to it. If you can feel each others energy. I think there has to be this connection on a soul level first, because that connection quickly creates the intimacy and mutual trust that is necessary to open up on such a deep level. In order to open up about your deepest fears and struggles, you have to trust someone 100% .I think fun and light doesn't have to exclude that relationship on a deep level, I think they can exist together. It's not so black and white. Souls want to have fun too, and when you connect on a soul level, it also means that the love and happiness is shared and felt on that intense level. This creates the balance that you need to keep the relationship going, or else the relationship would feel heavy and "too much".
So if people tell you they want to keep things fun and light, they are probably:
1) not ready to trust you 100% to open up about their deepest feelings
2) not connecting with you on that soul level
3) not into a relationship on a deep level
Just my thoughts.....
I very much agree.
You can have still have fun & light moment with someone when your emotions run deep.
All about establishing the balance.
Posted by raad182
But how do you know that a relationship can grow into something so deep? I dont want to waste my time, as everybody else...
Thing is you don't. It's going to take time no matter how badly you don't want to waste time. Unfortunately when things appear to be perfect, that's just a mask hiding the fact that deep down you both are too different for souls to merge. Also things that appear like they won't work sometimes will in the opposite sense.
It's truly hard to find a person that will deeply mesh together with you forever. You won't know till after the mask from the beginning of the relationship fades, and you both realize you are exactly the same deep down. True soul connection is not impossible, but hard. It will take time, and be risky. Like you said you have to go into it not really caring what happens in the end, and just go with it.
Posted by raad182
Everytime I try to go deeper in someone feelings, past, secrets, pains and fears...I get the same response " I dont want something so intense, I want something fun and light "Venus in the 12th
Opposite Moon and Pluto
Trine Uranus and Neptune
I understand this.
Scorpio Venus in the 12th
Cancer Mars in the 8th
Pisces moon in the 4th
Scorpio rising
Pluto conj asc.
Seems we can never find someone deep enough ?
Posted by raad182
But how do you know that a relationship can grow into something so deep? I dont want to waste my time, as everybody else...Thing is you don't. It's going to take time no matter how badly you don't want to waste time. Unfortunately when things appear to be perfect, that's just a mask hiding the fact that deep down you both are too different for souls to merge. Also things that appear like they won't work sometimes will in the opposite sense.
It's truly hard to find a person that will deeply mesh together with you forever. You won't know till after the mask from the beginning of the relationship fades, and you both realize you are exactly the same deep down. True soul connection is not impossible, but hard. It will take time, and be risky. Like you said you have to go into it not really caring what happens in the end, and just go with it.
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But how do you tell that someones mask is wearing off? What are the indicators?
I know its really hard to answer this questions but of course there are hints.
Posted by raad182
But how do you know that a relationship can grow into something so deep? I dont want to waste my time, as everybody else...Anything you want to have a good foundation/to grow into something deep requires enough time to develop, it's part of the process.
Good way for venus in 12th is to be cautious, develop meaningful relationships and be less intense.
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Why are you saying that about Vênus in the 12th house?
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Everytime I try to go deeper in someone feelings, past, secrets, pains and fears...I get the same response " I dont want something so intense, I want something fun and light "
Venus in the 12th
Opposite Moon and Pluto
Trine Uranus and Neptune