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I feel like this crab is trying to hurt me...on purpose. But, I'm not sure why. This past weekend, I had a big event that he said he'd go to. Never showed up. The next day, he said "Sorry I couldn't make it. I had an issue that blew all my plans".

I told him it hurt me very much that he wasn't there. Then I asked him if he still wanted us to meet up that day. He cancelled and said it's because he had to work extra hours. He's the one who asked to meet up initially!

Then, he says:

You're going to hate me one of these days, if you don't already.

Do you Cancers feel good when you hurt people? I don't get it.
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This is a guy thing!!!! Happened to me so many times. Sign isn’t a factor. Some men are just assholes.

Bullshit, the love of my life was a billion times worse than this guy. She's a Female Cancer. It's the cycle of bullshit. If the man doesn't do it, then the woman does. Then women wonder why men are assholes.

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Anyone is capable. Guy, girl, sign is not relevant. There’s good and bad in every sign.
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Anyone is capable. Guy, girl, sign is not relevant. There’s good and bad in every sign.



It's not that simple. I have not met a woman who didn't have an underlying sense of entitlement and essentially regard any man they are with as not critically important to their lives.
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I’m sorry. I don’t have any luck finding good men so I get it. #strugglebus
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Posted by Arielle83
You don't sound very accepting about issues he may be having in his life.

Are you one of those chicks that flip out when things don't go her way?

Selfish.

Crab told u things got in the way.


I came back to clarify in case anyone was under the impression that this was a sometimes thing.

This happens 9.99999 times out of 10. So much so, that he jokes about being "consistently inconsistent" with me. I promise I'm not a spoiled inconsiderate brat who's not taking into account that he's working on himself. But, when you're minding your biz, and someone says "Oh, wanna make plans to do (whatever the thing is)?" And then you make time for them, and then they cancel (not usually prior to, usually you find out during the time the plans are supposed to be happening thst they're not going to happen), I'm sure it'd start to sting after a while. This happens most of the time. So, that's why I ask the question. Is it a Cancer thing?

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Posted by nikkistar
Hate to point this out, if I remember accurately, he is still trying to fix himself. And unfortunately you aren't the girlfriend yet, so these kinds on antic will happen.

You have to decide for yourself if you remain patient or not.


Oh, my patience has never been put to the test like this. Lol

Silly me still thinks he's completely worth it though. I love him, and yes he is in the process of trying to work out some personal issues. So I'm going to hang in there.

Just trying to be cautious though, and consider my heart in this whole process. He told me recently it's not like he's weighing me against other women. He's chosen me. He is just working on himself before there can be an us. I'm trying hard to respect that. I should. Thanks for the reminder.



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You don't sound very accepting about issues he may be having in his life.

Are you one of those chicks that flip out when things don't go her way?

Selfish.

Crab told u things got in the way.


I came back to clarify in case anyone was under the impression that this was a sometimes thing.

This happens 9.99999 times out of 10. So much so, that he jokes about being "consistently inconsistent" with me. I promise I'm not a spoiled inconsiderate brat who's not taking into account that he's working on himself. But, when you're minding your biz, and someone says "Oh, wanna make plans to do (whatever the thing is)?" And then you make time for them, and then they cancel (not usually prior to, usually you find out during the time the plans are supposed to be happening thst they're not going to happen), I'm sure it'd start to sting after a while. This happens most of the time. So, that's why I ask the question. Is it a Cancer thing?


No I don't think so.

I get this from libras and sag's as well.

Just stop asking him. Or do things without him.

If he wants to join, he can take the initiative.
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After this last time, I've decided to do just that. And I guess whenever he does make plans w/ me, I have to always remember there's an excellent chance that they won't happen.
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You don't sound very accepting about issues he may be having in his life.

Are you one of those chicks that flip out when things don't go her way?

Selfish.

Crab told u things got in the way.


I came back to clarify in case anyone was under the impression that this was a sometimes thing.

This happens 9.99999 times out of 10. So much so, that he jokes about being "consistently inconsistent" with me. I promise I'm not a spoiled inconsiderate brat who's not taking into account that he's working on himself. But, when you're minding your biz, and someone says "Oh, wanna make plans to do (whatever the thing is)?" And then you make time for them, and then they cancel (not usually prior to, usually you find out during the time the plans are supposed to be happening thst they're not going to happen), I'm sure it'd start to sting after a while. This happens most of the time. So, that's why I ask the question. Is it a Cancer thing?


So why bother with someone like that? He obviously doesn’t care much about you
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Because I'm not one to drop someone who's going through a 💩 load of 💩.
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You don't sound very accepting about issues he may be having in his life.

Are you one of those chicks that flip out when things don't go her way?

Selfish.

Crab told u things got in the way.


I came back to clarify in case anyone was under the impression that this was a sometimes thing.

This happens 9.99999 times out of 10. So much so, that he jokes about being "consistently inconsistent" with me. I promise I'm not a spoiled inconsiderate brat who's not taking into account that he's working on himself. But, when you're minding your biz, and someone says "Oh, wanna make plans to do (whatever the thing is)?" And then you make time for them, and then they cancel (not usually prior to, usually you find out during the time the plans are supposed to be happening thst they're not going to happen), I'm sure it'd start to sting after a while. This happens most of the time. So, that's why I ask the question. Is it a Cancer thing?


So why bother with someone like that? He obviously doesn’t care much about you
Because I'm not one to drop someone who's going through a 💩 load of 💩.


Okay, so why complain then?
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Well, because I felt like it. Also, because I wanted to know if it's a Cancer thing, or if it's because he's going through a lot.

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Posted by Arielle83
You don't sound very accepting about issues he may be having in his life.

Are you one of those chicks that flip out when things don't go her way?

Selfish.

Crab told u things got in the way.


I came back to clarify in case anyone was under the impression that this was a sometimes thing.

This happens 9.99999 times out of 10. So much so, that he jokes about being "consistently inconsistent" with me. I promise I'm not a spoiled inconsiderate brat who's not taking into account that he's working on himself. But, when you're minding your biz, and someone says "Oh, wanna make plans to do (whatever the thing is)?" And then you make time for them, and then they cancel (not usually prior to, usually you find out during the time the plans are supposed to be happening thst they're not going to happen), I'm sure it'd start to sting after a while. This happens most of the time. So, that's why I ask the question. Is it a Cancer thing?

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This is not a Cancer thing, if I myself, as a Cancer had this happen to me with another sign.

However, I didn't care and end up doing my own thing after
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You are definitely in the top 5 of most entitled people I’ve ever come across.

Name how I'm entitled, or shut up.

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Didn't you just stated yourself that everyone is entitled to be in love in just your previous post.

In most relationships it's not even love it's just their friendship that's strong with a bond.

If you're going to get your expectations high that you deserved to be love just the way you love somebody else, as strongly as you do, you're just bound to get hurt.

And the reputation of you loving a Cancer who hurt you doesn't mean all Cancer's have hurt you. Who do you think you are coming around and speaking for all Cancer's and stating we are all hypocrites.

The only one being a hypocrite is you. You love one, then you get hurt from one, and you develop hatred.
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Posted by TaurusFlower22
I feel like this crab is trying to hurt me...on purpose. But, I'm not sure why. This past weekend, I had a big event that he said he'd go to. Never showed up. The next day, he said "Sorry I couldn't make it. I had an issue that blew all my plans".

I told him it hurt me very much that he wasn't there. Then I asked him if he still wanted us to meet up that day. He cancelled and said it's because he had to work extra hours. He's the one who asked to meet up initially!

Then, he says:

You're going to hate me one of these days, if you don't already.

Do you Cancers feel good when you hurt people? I don't get it.


don't have to hate

just stop drop and roll
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Posted by Arielle83
You don't sound very accepting about issues he may be having in his life.

Are you one of those chicks that flip out when things don't go her way?

Selfish.

Crab told u things got in the way.


I came back to clarify in case anyone was under the impression that this was a sometimes thing.

This happens 9.99999 times out of 10. So much so, that he jokes about being "consistently inconsistent" with me. I promise I'm not a spoiled inconsiderate brat who's not taking into account that he's working on himself. But, when you're minding your biz, and someone says "Oh, wanna make plans to do (whatever the thing is)?" And then you make time for them, and then they cancel (not usually prior to, usually you find out during the time the plans are supposed to be happening thst they're not going to happen), I'm sure it'd start to sting after a while. This happens most of the time. So, that's why I ask the question. Is it a Cancer thing?

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Doll (thank you for clarifying, but I'm Piscean; I don't need this clarity) -- you're a glutton for punishment. He's a rude, crude, dude! 😡 At each and EVERY date I've had (can count in one hand), I tell the guy, "If you're going to be late, please text or call me. I would really appreciate that". I give them the benefit of the doubt if I did not remember to tell him the above (or sometimes I will "test" him); if he failed the first time, shame on you, if he failed me the second time, shame on me; third time I bounce (or swim away!).

Again, he's a rude, crude, dude 😡 I expect promptness; as I reciprocate; if he came to pick me up, I will be ready and NOT have him waiting on me. This "generation" gets me rolling my eyes like Judge Judy; I will find a gif program soon!

🤗 cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva
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Posted by TaurusFlower22
I feel like this crab is trying to hurt me...on purpose. But, I'm not sure why.

This past weekend, I had a big event that he said he'd go to. Never showed up. The next day, he said "Sorry I couldn't make it. I had an issue that blew all my plans".

I told him it hurt me very much that he wasn't there. Then I asked him if he still wanted us to meet up that day. He cancelled and said it's because he had to work extra hours. He's the one who asked to meet up initially!

Do you Cancers feel good when you hurt people? I don't get it.


Umm why the hurt?

He couldn't make it and gave you an explanation why + he apologized! Plans change. Life happens. If your so sensitive to take it personally then better to never invite anyone to anything.

How is your over-sensitivity his problem...
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You don't sound very accepting about issues he may be having in his life.

Are you one of those chicks that flip out when things don't go her way?

Selfish.

Crab told u things got in the way.


I came back to clarify in case anyone was under the impression that this was a sometimes thing.

This happens 9.99999 times out of 10. So much so, that he jokes about being "consistently inconsistent" with me. I promise I'm not a spoiled inconsiderate brat who's not taking into account that he's working on himself. But, when you're minding your biz, and someone says "Oh, wanna make plans to do (whatever the thing is)?" And then you make time for them, and then they cancel (not usually prior to, usually you find out during the time the plans are supposed to be happening thst they're not going to happen), I'm sure it'd start to sting after a while. This happens most of the time. So, that's why I ask the question. Is it a Cancer thing?

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So stop making time for him. Problem solved.

Know your boundaries and stick to them. If you get that butt hurt by plans changing then don't see him again. And don't date air signs either. Or mutables.
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Posted by Arielle83
You don't sound very accepting about issues he may be having in his life.

Are you one of those chicks that flip out when things don't go her way?

Selfish.

Crab told u things got in the way.


I came back to clarify in case anyone was under the impression that this was a sometimes thing.

This happens 9.99999 times out of 10. So much so, that he jokes about being "consistently inconsistent" with me. I promise I'm not a spoiled inconsiderate brat who's not taking into account that he's working on himself. But, when you're minding your biz, and someone says "Oh, wanna make plans to do (whatever the thing is)?" And then you make time for them, and then they cancel (not usually prior to, usually you find out during the time the plans are supposed to be happening thst they're not going to happen), I'm sure it'd start to sting after a while. This happens most of the time. So, that's why I ask the question. Is it a Cancer thing?

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Pretty sure people have already told you by now but you would be better off moving along especially if this has happened multiple times. It doesn't matter if it's a Cancer thing, I went through the same thing with a Pisces last year who kept making plans and cancelling them. It all boils down to the same outcome... They are probably not interested and don't care to tell you for whatever reason. I know it's hard for Taurus to move on but maybe start by removing his number?
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Posted by Arielle83
You don't sound very accepting about issues he may be having in his life.

Are you one of those chicks that flip out when things don't go her way?

Selfish.

Crab told u things got in the way.


I came back to clarify in case anyone was under the impression that this was a sometimes thing.

This happens 9.99999 times out of 10. So much so, that he jokes about being "consistently inconsistent" with me. I promise I'm not a spoiled inconsiderate brat who's not taking into account that he's working on himself. But, when you're minding your biz, and someone says "Oh, wanna make plans to do (whatever the thing is)?" And then you make time for them, and then they cancel (not usually prior to, usually you find out during the time the plans are supposed to be happening thst they're not going to happen), I'm sure it'd start to sting after a while. This happens most of the time. So, that's why I ask the question. Is it a Cancer thing?

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This is a guy isn't interested in having more with you and you are not important to him thing.

I mean, do you bail out 99.99% on your pals or buddies or partners when you have had them? No? Then why are you hanging around for this guy? Find someone that is willing to meet whatever it is you are seeking.

I get it, people will say, oh that's just what he does, he's a crab guy, they do that.. nope, bullshit, don't make up excuses. Why allow any person treat you like you are disposable, hate to say it but that was it seems like he is in essence doing to you.
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You don't sound very accepting about issues he may be having in his life.

Are you one of those chicks that flip out when things don't go her way?

Selfish.

Crab told u things got in the way.


I came back to clarify in case anyone was under the impression that this was a sometimes thing.

This happens 9.99999 times out of 10. So much so, that he jokes about being "consistently inconsistent" with me. I promise I'm not a spoiled inconsiderate brat who's not taking into account that he's working on himself. But, when you're minding your biz, and someone says "Oh, wanna make plans to do (whatever the thing is)?" And then you make time for them, and then they cancel (not usually prior to, usually you find out during the time the plans are supposed to be happening thst they're not going to happen), I'm sure it'd start to sting after a while. This happens most of the time. So, that's why I ask the question. Is it a Cancer thing?


Pretty sure people have already told you by now but you would be better off moving along especially if this has happened multiple times. It doesn't matter if it's a Cancer thing, I went through the same thing with a Pisces last year who kept making plans and cancelling them. It all boils down to the same outcome... They are probably not interested and don't care to tell you for whatever reason. I know it's hard for Taurus to move on but maybe start by removing his number?
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I removed his phone number/ our pics/ all texts. There's literally no trace of him in my phone anymore. It actually felt good to do that.
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So...a week ago, I broke things off. He apologized, and asked for my forgiveness via text.

I ignored that text.

The next day, he unfriended and unfollowed me on all social media.

A couple days later, I contacted him.

We had a HUGE argument. He threw many emotional pushes (never disrespectful, but tons of finger pointing, and taking back his apology)

Then, he told me he wanted me to be his life partner.

I suggested we stop with the back and forth, and he agreed.

I asked, "Now what?"

He said, "Nothing. I think we were both clear about what we want...You're ready for things that I'm not really thinking about. There's really nothing to do"

Nothing since that day (a few days ago)

So, here's the thing. I wanted a commitment. He didn't...yet.

My intention was not to cut him from my life, rather to end the gray area thing we had going on.

My fear is that while he is taking time to himself, he is also building resentment. I say that because of the way he flipped when I "ignored" his text, then replied a few days later.

Cancer folks, would you prefer to be left alone in this situation? Do you think he hates me? I love him. But, if nothing else, I'll accept a friendship. I just want him in my life still.
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"Then, he told me he wanted me to be his life partner

He said, "Nothing. I think we were both clear about what we want...You're ready for things that I'm not really thinking about. There's really nothing to do"

Why is he giving you so many confusing messages. So he wants you as life partner but didn't want to commit?


He said:

"I want a partner. A companion. An official team to sleep with and wake up to. Currently, the beginning stages of that comes with specifics that most aren't prepared to live comfortably with. In the end that's exactly what I want. But for now, if anyone, that person needs to be genuinely content with the amount of time and energy that I have to commit to them. We connect when we do and pick up where we left off."

I asked him if he wanted that from me. He said "I did want that from you."

Did, as in not anymore I'm guessing.

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Do you like to make people suffer?



YES.

If you can't stand the pain you can't sit with us
The thing is fucked up about you that you have denied that you fucked up yourselves! And no one can sit with you unless you related by blood and people must sit with you wishing they weren’t. Like at family gathering!

‘Ok...we will bite a piece of the food and sip a drink and have friend to call that ‘something bad happened’ so we can run!’

Sounds familiar?
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So...a week ago, I broke things off. He apologized, and asked for my forgiveness via text.

I ignored that text.

The next day, he unfriended and unfollowed me on all social media.

A couple days later, I contacted him.

We had a HUGE argument. He threw many emotional pushes (never disrespectful, but tons of finger pointing, and taking back his apology)

Then, he told me he wanted me to be his life partner.

I suggested we stop with the back and forth, and he agreed.

I asked, "Now what?"

He said, "Nothing. I think we were both clear about what we want...You're ready for things that I'm not really thinking about. There's really nothing to do"

Nothing since that day (a few days ago)

So, here's the thing. I wanted a commitment. He didn't...yet.

My intention was not to cut him from my life, rather to end the gray area thing we had going on.

My fear is that while he is taking time to himself, he is also building resentment. I say that because of the way he flipped when I "ignored" his text, then replied a few days later.

Cancer folks, would you prefer to be left alone in this situation? Do you think he hates me? I love him. But, if nothing else, I'll accept a friendship. I just want him in my life still.


Can you disconnect your feelings for him

If not it'll be harder for you to manage your expectations

I think a crab mans friendship is amazing ...i don't know how they are in relationships but im sure very complicated and annoying

I would say keep being friendly towards him without the expectations



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Right now, I'm unable to disconnect my feelings for him, honestly. Over time, perhaps. If that's what he wants, I'd try.

Should I contact him again or give him time? I can't tell what he wants me to do. He said he doesn't want me to leave him alone, but it's probably best.
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Oh yeah, I forgot to add this:

He accused me of spending time with someone else. He said he believes that's why I ended things with him...to make myself feel better about spending time with someone else while I was out of town visiting my family.

At first, I denied it, and even "loled" in the text because it is 1000% untrue.

But, the more I think about it, the more pissed off I become.

He is the king of pointing the finger as far away from himself as he possibly can.
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Then, he told me he wanted me to be his life partner.

I suggested we stop with the back and forth, and he agreed.

I asked, "Now what?"

He said, "Nothing. I think we were both clear about what we want...You're ready for things that I'm not really thinking about. There's really nothing to do"


What?? He said he wanted you to be his life partner and then he said "you're ready for things that I'm not really thinking about." I would leave him alone. If he's really interested, he'll come back around and hopefully treat you better.
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Posted by pinkbird03
He likes that you like him and he wants ownership of you. But is also keeping his options open by not committing.

I think the only way to get commitment is to tell him that you want that or nothing with him. Then walk away until he comes crawling back which he will
Agreed, and I did just that. It made him mad. He claims that by me choosing to end this FWB thing (he hated when I used that term because he said I wasn't a FWB, but "much more than that" to him 🙄), I wasn't being accepting of him and his need to take things slowly. He made it seem like I was being dishonest with him all along, and with myself. I think for a good month, that was actually the case. Prior to that though, I had no issue with the way things were set up.

I finally unfollowed him back on social media. He says he unfollowed and unfriended me because I ignored his text, and so he took that as me wanting nothing to do with him.

So, I shouldn't contact him anymore, right? Wait for him to contact me first?
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Then, he told me he wanted me to be his life partner.

I suggested we stop with the back and forth, and he agreed.

I asked, "Now what?"

He said, "Nothing. I think we were both clear about what we want...You're ready for things that I'm not really thinking about. There's really nothing to do"


What?? He said he wanted you to be his life partner and then he said "you're ready for things that I'm not really thinking about." I would leave him alone. If he's really interested, he'll come back around and hopefully treat you better.
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Exactly. And I told him during our argument that his vagueness is a major major issue. He does this talking in riddles thing a lot. I couldn't take it anymore.
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He likes that you like him and he wants ownership of you. But is also keeping his options open by not committing.

I think the only way to get commitment is to tell him that you want that or nothing with him. Then walk away until he comes crawling back which he will
Agreed, and I did just that. It made him mad. He claims that by me choosing to end this FWB thing (he hated when I used that term because he said I wasn't a FWB, but "much more than that" to him 🙄), I wasn't being accepting of him and his need to take things slowly. He made it seem like I was being dishonest with him all along, and with myself. I think for a good month, that was actually the case. Prior to that though, I had no issue with the way things were set up.

I finally unfollowed him back on social media. He says he unfollowed and unfriended me because I ignored his text, and so he took that as me wanting nothing to do with him.

So, I shouldn't contact him anymore, right? Wait for him to contact me first?

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Yes wait. Show him your serious. Show him you have standards that he must live up to in order to be with you. Or else he will continue the relationship the way it is. And btw. His defense is lame. You can still take things slow as long as he compromises and gives you what you deserve too
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He likes that you like him and he wants ownership of you. But is also keeping his options open by not committing.

I think the only way to get commitment is to tell him that you want that or nothing with him. Then walk away until he comes crawling back which he will
Agreed, and I did just that. It made him mad. He claims that by me choosing to end this FWB thing (he hated when I used that term because he said I wasn't a FWB, but "much more than that" to him 🙄), I wasn't being accepting of him and his need to take things slowly. He made it seem like I was being dishonest with him all along, and with myself. I think for a good month, that was actually the case. Prior to that though, I had no issue with the way things were set up.

I finally unfollowed him back on social media. He says he unfollowed and unfriended me because I ignored his text, and so he took that as me wanting nothing to do with him.

So, I shouldn't contact him anymore, right? Wait for him to contact me first?

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Yes wait. Show him your serious. Show him you have standards that he must live up to in order to be with you. Or else he will continue the relationship the way it is. And btw. His defense is lame. You can still take things slow as long as he compromises and gives you what you deserve too
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Hate to point this out, if I remember accurately, he is still trying to fix himself. And unfortunately you aren't the girlfriend yet, so these kinds on antic will happen.

You have to decide for yourself if you remain patient or not.


Oh, my patience has never been put to the test like this. Lol

Silly me still thinks he's completely worth it though. I love him, and yes he is in the process of trying to work out some personal issues. So I'm going to hang in there.

Just trying to be cautious though, and consider my heart in this whole process. He told me recently it's not like he's weighing me against other women. He's chosen me. He is just working on himself before there can be an us. I'm trying hard to respect that. I should. Thanks for the reminder.



Does he make time for sex though ?

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He'd make and break sex plans like he'd make and break dinner plans. So, no. Lol

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He likes that you like him and he wants ownership of you. But is also keeping his options open by not committing.

I think the only way to get commitment is to tell him that you want that or nothing with him. Then walk away until he comes crawling back which he will
Agreed, and I did just that. It made him mad. He claims that by me choosing to end this FWB thing (he hated when I used that term because he said I wasn't a FWB, but "much more than that" to him 🙄), I wasn't being accepting of him and his need to take things slowly. He made it seem like I was being dishonest with him all along, and with myself. I think for a good month, that was actually the case. Prior to that though, I had no issue with the way things were set up.

I finally unfollowed him back on social media. He says he unfollowed and unfriended me because I ignored his text, and so he took that as me wanting nothing to do with him.

So, I shouldn't contact him anymore, right? Wait for him to contact me first?


Yes wait. Show him your serious. Show him you have standards that he must live up to in order to be with you. Or else he will continue the relationship the way it is. And btw. His defense is lame. You can still take things slow as long as he compromises and gives you what you deserve too
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Ok, I won't do anything.

Oh, it is SO lame! So, I'm supposed to sit on this shelf and accept this complete disregard for my needs for possibly years (he said it could take years 😂), and then *poof*...suddenly you decide you want us to be in a relationship, and so the complete disregard for my needs that you've grown so accustomed to, magically morphs into you being attentive and loving? And in the meantime, I'm supposed to not dislike you for treating me like a toy, and wasting my time, and having to turn down men who want to treat me much better?

Gtfohwtbs.

I think his ex gf accepted a lot of shit. And since that was really the only true relationship he's had, he's been spoiled.
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He likes that you like him and he wants ownership of you. But is also keeping his options open by not committing.

I think the only way to get commitment is to tell him that you want that or nothing with him. Then walk away until he comes crawling back which he will
Agreed, and I did just that. It made him mad. He claims that by me choosing to end this FWB thing (he hated when I used that term because he said I wasn't a FWB, but "much more than that" to him 🙄), I wasn't being accepting of him and his need to take things slowly. He made it seem like I was being dishonest with him all along, and with myself. I think for a good month, that was actually the case. Prior to that though, I had no issue with the way things were set up.

I finally unfollowed him back on social media. He says he unfollowed and unfriended me because I ignored his text, and so he took that as me wanting nothing to do with him.

So, I shouldn't contact him anymore, right? Wait for him to contact me first?


Yes wait. Show him your serious. Show him you have standards that he must live up to in order to be with you. Or else he will continue the relationship the way it is. And btw. His defense is lame. You can still take things slow as long as he compromises and gives you what you deserve too
Ok, I won't do anything.

Oh, it is SO lame! So, I'm supposed to sit on this shelf and accept this complete disregard for my needs for possibly years (he said it could take years 😂), and then *poof*...suddenly you decide you want us to be in a relationship, and so the complete disregard for my needs that you've grown so accustomed to, magically morphs into you being attentive and loving? And in the meantime, I'm supposed to not dislike you for treating me like a toy, and wasting my time, and having to turn down men who want to treat me much better?

Gtfohwtbs.

I think his ex gf accepted a lot of shit. And since that was really the only true relationship he's had, he's been spoiled.

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Yes, he seems used to having things his way. I’m worried that after years of doing it his way, he will decide he doesn’t want to be with you anymore then you wasted all this time for nothing. Years is too long for any high quality girl
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Posted by TaurusFlower22
Posted by pinkbird03
Posted by TaurusFlower22
Posted by pinkbird03
He likes that you like him and he wants ownership of you. But is also keeping his options open by not committing.

I think the only way to get commitment is to tell him that you want that or nothing with him. Then walk away until he comes crawling back which he will
Agreed, and I did just that. It made him mad. He claims that by me choosing to end this FWB thing (he hated when I used that term because he said I wasn't a FWB, but "much more than that" to him 🙄), I wasn't being accepting of him and his need to take things slowly. He made it seem like I was being dishonest with him all along, and with myself. I think for a good month, that was actually the case. Prior to that though, I had no issue with the way things were set up.

I finally unfollowed him back on social media. He says he unfollowed and unfriended me because I ignored his text, and so he took that as me wanting nothing to do with him.

So, I shouldn't contact him anymore, right? Wait for him to contact me first?


Yes wait. Show him your serious. Show him you have standards that he must live up to in order to be with you. Or else he will continue the relationship the way it is. And btw. His defense is lame. You can still take things slow as long as he compromises and gives you what you deserve too
Ok, I won't do anything.

Oh, it is SO lame! So, I'm supposed to sit on this shelf and accept this complete disregard for my needs for possibly years (he said it could take years 😂), and then *poof*...suddenly you decide you want us to be in a relationship, and so the complete disregard for my needs that you've grown so accustomed to, magically morphs into you being attentive and loving? And in the meantime, I'm supposed to not dislike you for treating me like a toy, and wasting my time, and having to turn down men who want to treat me much better?

Gtfohwtbs.

I think his ex gf accepted a lot of shit. And since that was really the only true relationship he's had, he's been spoiled.

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And now you are perpetuating.....why would you still be in like, in love or interested in someone who clearly does not respect you or want you?

You have to love yourself before anyone else will.

Come on! Stop putting yourself thru turmoil.

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Posted by pinkbird03
He likes that you like him and he wants ownership of you. But is also keeping his options open by not committing.

I think the only way to get commitment is to tell him that you want that or nothing with him. Then walk away until he comes crawling back which he will
Agreed, and I did just that. It made him mad. He claims that by me choosing to end this FWB thing (he hated when I used that term because he said I wasn't a FWB, but "much more than that" to him 🙄), I wasn't being accepting of him and his need to take things slowly. He made it seem like I was being dishonest with him all along, and with myself. I think for a good month, that was actually the case. Prior to that though, I had no issue with the way things were set up.

I finally unfollowed him back on social media. He says he unfollowed and unfriended me because I ignored his text, and so he took that as me wanting nothing to do with him.

So, I shouldn't contact him anymore, right? Wait for him to contact me first?


Yes wait. Show him your serious. Show him you have standards that he must live up to in order to be with you. Or else he will continue the relationship the way it is. And btw. His defense is lame. You can still take things slow as long as he compromises and gives you what you deserve too
Ok, I won't do anything.

Oh, it is SO lame! So, I'm supposed to sit on this shelf and accept this complete disregard for my needs for possibly years (he said it could take years 😂), and then *poof*...suddenly you decide you want us to be in a relationship, and so the complete disregard for my needs that you've grown so accustomed to, magically morphs into you being attentive and loving? And in the meantime, I'm supposed to not dislike you for treating me like a toy, and wasting my time, and having to turn down men who want to treat me much better?

Gtfohwtbs.

I think his ex gf accepted a lot of shit. And since that was really the only true relationship he's had, he's been spoiled.


And now you are perpetuating.....why would you still be in like, in love or interested in someone who clearly does not respect you or want you?

You have to love yourself before anyone else will.

Come on! Stop putting yourself thru turmoil.

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How am I putting myself through turmoil?

Have you ever loved someone?

There's no "off" switch that I am aware of. Lol

I am doing exactly the opposite by having put an end to the bs.

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Posted by pinkbird03
He likes that you like him and he wants ownership of you. But is also keeping his options open by not committing.

I think the only way to get commitment is to tell him that you want that or nothing with him. Then walk away until he comes crawling back which he will
Agreed, and I did just that. It made him mad. He claims that by me choosing to end this FWB thing (he hated when I used that term because he said I wasn't a FWB, but "much more than that" to him 🙄), I wasn't being accepting of him and his need to take things slowly. He made it seem like I was being dishonest with him all along, and with myself. I think for a good month, that was actually the case. Prior to that though, I had no issue with the way things were set up.

I finally unfollowed him back on social media. He says he unfollowed and unfriended me because I ignored his text, and so he took that as me wanting nothing to do with him.

So, I shouldn't contact him anymore, right? Wait for him to contact me first?


Yes wait. Show him your serious. Show him you have standards that he must live up to in order to be with you. Or else he will continue the relationship the way it is. And btw. His defense is lame. You can still take things slow as long as he compromises and gives you what you deserve too
Ok, I won't do anything.

Oh, it is SO lame! So, I'm supposed to sit on this shelf and accept this complete disregard for my needs for possibly years (he said it could take years 😂), and then *poof*...suddenly you decide you want us to be in a relationship, and so the complete disregard for my needs that you've grown so accustomed to, magically morphs into you being attentive and loving? And in the meantime, I'm supposed to not dislike you for treating me like a toy, and wasting my time, and having to turn down men who want to treat me much better?

Gtfohwtbs.

I think his ex gf accepted a lot of shit. And since that was really the only true relationship he's had, he's been spoiled.


Yes, he seems used to having things his way. I’m worried that after years of doing it his way, he will decide he doesn’t want to be with you anymore then you wasted all this time for nothing. Years is too long for any high quality girl
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Exactly.
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Posted by TaurusFlower22
Posted by pinkbird03
He likes that you like him and he wants ownership of you. But is also keeping his options open by not committing.

I think the only way to get commitment is to tell him that you want that or nothing with him. Then walk away until he comes crawling back which he will
Agreed, and I did just that. It made him mad. He claims that by me choosing to end this FWB thing (he hated when I used that term because he said I wasn't a FWB, but "much more than that" to him 🙄), I wasn't being accepting of him and his need to take things slowly. He made it seem like I was being dishonest with him all along, and with myself. I think for a good month, that was actually the case. Prior to that though, I had no issue with the way things were set up.

I finally unfollowed him back on social media. He says he unfollowed and unfriended me because I ignored his text, and so he took that as me wanting nothing to do with him.

So, I shouldn't contact him anymore, right? Wait for him to contact me first?


Yes wait. Show him your serious. Show him you have standards that he must live up to in order to be with you. Or else he will continue the relationship the way it is. And btw. His defense is lame. You can still take things slow as long as he compromises and gives you what you deserve too
Ok, I won't do anything.

Oh, it is SO lame! So, I'm supposed to sit on this shelf and accept this complete disregard for my needs for possibly years (he said it could take years 😂), and then *poof*...suddenly you decide you want us to be in a relationship, and so the complete disregard for my needs that you've grown so accustomed to, magically morphs into you being attentive and loving? And in the meantime, I'm supposed to not dislike you for treating me like a toy, and wasting my time, and having to turn down men who want to treat me much better?

Gtfohwtbs.

I think his ex gf accepted a lot of shit. And since that was really the only true relationship he's had, he's been spoiled.


And now you are perpetuating.....why would you still be in like, in love or interested in someone who clearly does not respect you or want you?

You have to love yourself before anyone else will.

Come on! Stop putting yourself thru turmoil.


How am I putting myself through turmoil?

Have you ever loved someone?

There's no "off" switch that I am aware of. Lol

I am doing exactly the opposite by having put an end to the bs.

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I think the last decision you've made was gd for, but you still are hoping and open for him to back.

I understand there's no on and off switch, but you have to come to the realization that no matter how you feel about him he doesn't feel the same about you.

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Posted by TaurusFlower22
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He likes that you like him and he wants ownership of you. But is also keeping his options open by not committing.

I think the only way to get commitment is to tell him that you want that or nothing with him. Then walk away until he comes crawling back which he will
Agreed, and I did just that. It made him mad. He claims that by me choosing to end this FWB thing (he hated when I used that term because he said I wasn't a FWB, but "much more than that" to him 🙄), I wasn't being accepting of him and his need to take things slowly. He made it seem like I was being dishonest with him all along, and with myself. I think for a good month, that was actually the case. Prior to that though, I had no issue with the way things were set up.

I finally unfollowed him back on social media. He says he unfollowed and unfriended me because I ignored his text, and so he took that as me wanting nothing to do with him.

So, I shouldn't contact him anymore, right? Wait for him to contact me first?


Yes wait. Show him your serious. Show him you have standards that he must live up to in order to be with you. Or else he will continue the relationship the way it is. And btw. His defense is lame. You can still take things slow as long as he compromises and gives you what you deserve too
Ok, I won't do anything.

Oh, it is SO lame! So, I'm supposed to sit on this shelf and accept this complete disregard for my needs for possibly years (he said it could take years 😂), and then *poof*...suddenly you decide you want us to be in a relationship, and so the complete disregard for my needs that you've grown so accustomed to, magically morphs into you being attentive and loving? And in the meantime, I'm supposed to not dislike you for treating me like a toy, and wasting my time, and having to turn down men who want to treat me much better?

Gtfohwtbs.

I think his ex gf accepted a lot of shit. And since that was really the only true relationship he's had, he's been spoiled.


And now you are perpetuating.....why would you still be in like, in love or interested in someone who clearly does not respect you or want you?

You have to love yourself before anyone else will.

Come on! Stop putting yourself thru turmoil.


How am I putting myself through turmoil?

Have you ever loved someone?

There's no "off" switch that I am aware of. Lol

I am doing exactly the opposite by having put an end to the bs.


I think the last decision you've made was gd for, but you still are hoping and open for him to back.

I understand there's no on and off switch, but you have to come to the realization that no matter how you feel about him he doesn't feel the same about you.

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I disagree, but you're definitely entitled to your opinion.
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Posted by nikkistar
Hate to point this out, if I remember accurately, he is still trying to fix himself. And unfortunately you aren't the girlfriend yet, so these kinds on antic will happen.

You have to decide for yourself if you remain patient or not.


Oh, my patience has never been put to the test like this. Lol

Silly me still thinks he's completely worth it though. I love him, and yes he is in the process of trying to work out some personal issues. So I'm going to hang in there.

Just trying to be cautious though, and consider my heart in this whole process. He told me recently it's not like he's weighing me against other women. He's chosen me. He is just working on himself before there can be an us. I'm trying hard to respect that. I should. Thanks for the reminder.



Does he make time for sex though ?


He'd make and break sex plans like he'd make and break dinner plans. So, no. Lol


This screams like a typical case of " He's just not that into you" to be honest.

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I'm not here to ask you all whether or not he's "into" me. Lol

I'm not at that point. Wayyyy past it.

I know him. 😊

I have decided to end things because we want different things at this point.

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Posted by TaurusFlower22
Posted by pinkbird03
He likes that you like him and he wants ownership of you. But is also keeping his options open by not committing.

I think the only way to get commitment is to tell him that you want that or nothing with him. Then walk away until he comes crawling back which he will
Agreed, and I did just that. It made him mad. He claims that by me choosing to end this FWB thing (he hated when I used that term because he said I wasn't a FWB, but "much more than that" to him 🙄), I wasn't being accepting of him and his need to take things slowly. He made it seem like I was being dishonest with him all along, and with myself. I think for a good month, that was actually the case. Prior to that though, I had no issue with the way things were set up.

I finally unfollowed him back on social media. He says he unfollowed and unfriended me because I ignored his text, and so he took that as me wanting nothing to do with him.

So, I shouldn't contact him anymore, right? Wait for him to contact me first?


Yes wait. Show him your serious. Show him you have standards that he must live up to in order to be with you. Or else he will continue the relationship the way it is. And btw. His defense is lame. You can still take things slow as long as he compromises and gives you what you deserve too
Ok, I won't do anything.

Oh, it is SO lame! So, I'm supposed to sit on this shelf and accept this complete disregard for my needs for possibly years (he said it could take years 😂), and then *poof*...suddenly you decide you want us to be in a relationship, and so the complete disregard for my needs that you've grown so accustomed to, magically morphs into you being attentive and loving? And in the meantime, I'm supposed to not dislike you for treating me like a toy, and wasting my time, and having to turn down men who want to treat me much better?

Gtfohwtbs.

I think his ex gf accepted a lot of shit. And since that was really the only true relationship he's had, he's been spoiled.


And now you are perpetuating.....why would you still be in like, in love or interested in someone who clearly does not respect you or want you?

You have to love yourself before anyone else will.

Come on! Stop putting yourself thru turmoil.


How am I putting myself through turmoil?

Have you ever loved someone?

There's no "off" switch that I am aware of. Lol

I am doing exactly the opposite by having put an end to the bs.


I think the last decision you've made was gd for, but you still are hoping and open for him to back.

I understand there's no on and off switch, but you have to come to the realization that no matter how you feel about him he doesn't feel the same about you.


I disagree, but you're definitely entitled to your opinion.

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I've read your posts, but ok. Good luck anyway.

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