"you have been by far the most insulting person on here. truly, it is rather guttery."
Burns! Doesn't it?
Usually it's not my style but I got down to your level! Insulting is your game and that we shall play. How does it feel to be spat on with nasty words?!!!
"imagining you all worked up and crazed over some internet posts."
Worked up is the least. Seems like something is hitting your nerve though!
"it is fun watching you make an ass of yourself."
Yet again... a statement to make you feel better about yourself... because if you were a bigger woman than I was, I wouldn't have your posts to reply to. Catty girl!
"hmmm. i will have to do a universal search for my use of crotch insults and get back to you. roflmao. you are just not all there."
Well obviously there has to be a reason why you are so bitter. So I had to narrow it down to that. I knew a girl who got slapped with it and she was just like you! Angry at the whole world.
"am pretty sure i would make sure to construct him without a pyscho ex wife and two children."
We know about you little world, we read about you enough so don't try to down play it by contradicting yourself:
"i have rarely posted about my relationship...before or after you appeared on this board."
"you don't know much about my relationship, because i hardly ever post shit here about it."
Just like you only know a portion of Sinder's and mine. So don't hit low blows if you aren't expecting them back.
LK... if your words were more toned down... you would probably be able to give valuable advice. However, not everyone is the same way and love for some is blind. It could take blow after blow before a woman will decide to walk out on a man that is abusing her.
Sinder is being abused emotionally and I am sure we all see that. But no one is able to push strength down her throat in 2 days. We read the posts, we see what's wrong and we know it's not right. But unlike you, other chose to advise her on how to get her life back on track, giving her tips on things to do to keep her mind off of things etc. You chose name calling, belittling and insulting to get your message across.
It doesn't matter what advice you give, it is up to the person to take it. No matter how much you try to give someone a wake up call they may never open their eyes to see the light. But at least you can be an inspiration in that person's life, encouraging them to do things that they probably didn't think about because they are so overwhelmed with negativety and sadness in their lives.
Your harsh words don't help and although this is the net... you are giving advice to a human. So if your words don't have a positive purpose. Why Bother?
It is very typical for a Cancer to display cold behaviour towards people and to stop talking to them for days, months or even years, to then just come back around like nothing had happened. Cancers can be selfish, like we all can and Cancers do deal with alot with regards to their emotions and sensitivity. Any Cancer in here will tell you that! They also often test people, unintentionally manipulate and act distant towards someone who wants to love them.
But the point still remains no matter which direction you try to steer this conversation, you were rude and it was unnecessary. You need to check yourself before you reply to someone's post.
"because sometimes soft words do nothing...sometimes people need a cold dose of water."
Yeah this method applies to someone that is your very close friend in which you know everything about. But not to some undeserving stranger.
"i was very serious about the counseling."
And that is not for you to decide because I personally think you need counselling too, anger management or something, but who am I to judge you and your needs. For being in your thirties, you should be preparing snacks for your kids when they come home from school right about now or preparing dinner for your boyfriend, making use of your day off. I hang out with people that are in their thirties and they don't go on like you. So who needs the counselling?
My point exactly! Don't point fingers at other people's relationship problems and try to make them believe that things go according to how society makes it out to be. If this was a perfect world, you would be married to you Cancer by now, with kids, and a stay at home mom.
A married woman at your age could come on here and criticize you for being in the situation that you're in. Unwed, childless, and putting up with another man's children and baby mama drama. You don't have all your shiat together either and it would be easy for someone to try to shove senseless advice in your throat on how to live your life and what you should tolerate like what you're doing with Sinder.
No one is doing that to you, so get a grip! Those living in a house made of glass shouldn't throw stones!
"wow. how can all these men across all these signs have the same damn issue? or is it the men....?"
That's why I stated.. "Cancers can be selfish, like we all can..." I generalise, and do not criticize.
Your whole post makes not sense... what else can you do other than just try to understand and deal with it then. If all men are alike, like you're stating, then when you run from one man to the other you will just find yourself back in the same problem again with another man.
So what really is the relevance of your post? Should she be with a woman?
You truly are naive. You come on here and say that Sinder is a fool because she does not have your blunt personality and criticizing the way she chooses to do things because it's "stupid" to you. People have different tolerance levels and we all look at things differently. That is why no one should judge them nor try to force "harsh reality" in their faces.
I am not saying that those things make a perfect life! I am saying that we all have our different point of views and without knowing the whole story of someone and their life situation you are in no position to tell them what to do, nor disagree with what they are currently doing. You chose to be with a man that has kids, I wouldn't have. Does that make you less of a woman than me? No it doesn't, that is your life choice. Just like Sinder's situation in which she has feelings for this man and is not strong enough to walk out right now. But it doesn't make her stupid.
You make your decisions, she makes hers and I make mine. You are in no position to belittle her. Just like you not wanting kids... that's your choice, I call it selfish, but could I post and belittle you and make accusations and call you names because you made that decision? No! You choose to be with a ready-made family that already comes with its dramas and yet put up with it. Should I insult you and tell you that you are stupid because I would never put myself in this situation, even if it were something that happens all the time around me? Would that be right?
You think I would want some crazy woman coming by my place fighting and arguing over my boyfriend and kids? (Cause it's what she's doing no matter how you interpret it) Or helping to raise my boyfriend's kids knowing that I hate the responsibility of having my own kids. Should my advice be to you to go and get a man without kids and no baby mama drama, because the situation is making your life hell?
Hell no! It's not my place. Like it's not yours to tell Sinder what to do, because you hate to see women making men take advantage of them. Please!
"and those behaviors should not be excused, tolerated, or justified based on a sun sign and someone's seeming understanding of astrology."
Well then get off of the astrology board and go on the relationship board. Because that is what this board is about, personality traits based on someone's astroloical sign.
I think it is selfish. That's my personal opinion. How can anyone live life without making the decsion to have kids. Yes it is our own option, but what other reasons can justify someone not wanting kids other than natural setbacks. Break it down for me MP.
I do blame myself to a certain degree but I also blame him. there is a serious communication problem between us and things have escalated to this point.........
what i am saying is that i am not perfect either. I do not know everything and how to handle every situation and this man is the most sensitive man i have ever met. sometimes he gets offended so easily when i mean no harm.
i am sensitive too. thats why these sites he goes on drives me crazy. i do not look like a beautiful model like the ones he talks to online or wants to schedule a photo shoots for. I am not unattractive just not a 21 year old....
He and i met when he took my photo for a photo shoot. it was instant attraction and we were together since that day. He met me at one of my shows ( i am a singer) sent me a photo he took of me. (he had a girlfriend) and then he introduced himself online. we conversed for 2 months online before the photoshoot. he sent me poetry...he is a really good poet and just published a book of his work.
he broke up with his girlfriend only a week before he and i met for the photoshoot. ironically he had just came back from this very same trip 2 years ago as this one he is on now...i am wondering is he going to do the same thing to me?
has he been messaging someone he met on line for a while, thus the extreme coldness causing us not to be intimate before this trip so he can cut ties with me as he did her so that he can start a new relationship? can you guys see how this all seems so weird and freaky to me?
that is why i keep thinking he is cheating....but it could be my mind just racing over this...
"Considering the over population of the world today, women who choose not to have children are doing a service to all of us."
That is your personal opinion, who is battling you for it? Think what you want. Read my whole post and you will get a better understanding as to why I stated the whole kids thing in the first place.
"Are you hurting someone by not having kids?"
In the Bible, what did God ask of us (human)? "Be fruitful, and multiply." I guess he knew what he was saying and will therefore, take care of the rest. I don't know what your religion is, but I am a Christian and I speak on what I feel is right.
I understand now why you are feeling the way you do about the cheating, because it is a very familiar situation in which you guys met 2 years ago.
I guess you won't know until he comes back, so for know just try to relax and condition your mind to expect the worst. That way, when the worst hits you'll be better prepared. He may not be the one for you and this could all be happening for you to just end it and close that chapter in your life. All has not failed, as you will find someone who will treat you better and give you a more fulfilling life. 🙂
Yea. Well I am. Like this other day I took this girl out bc I was bored. she assumed I was going to pay for her............ wtf... I gave her a weird wtf look and also got her a ticket. THEN WE WENT INSIDE! it gets better! Now she wants me to buy her some f'ing food! I looked at her and said umm you know were not on a date right? If you want something get it yourself! How dare she assume I was going to pay for her! I deleted her! F, her. If we like you. we will pay for you. SO yea cancers can be cheap and selfish.
Oh you talking about kids now...? Yea kids are cool.
I miss my Taurus girl.... I'd give her the world! 😢```
Stop being so effing stupid and realise that you aint gonna get nowhere with this man. His ex is going to tagonise your life, those kids are going to drive you up the wall and you're going to have to deal with the tug-a-war between them and your boyfriend.
Why are you with him?
You hate kids, but yet you have a ready made family. That's stupid!
You can't stand BS, but yet you put up with that tramp. That stupid!
You should be on to the other man already! What's wrong with you!
"I miss my Taurus girl.... I'd give her the world!"
Because we are the only ones that understand you and put up with your arses. 😉
Cancer and Taurus relationships are always dynamic and no one else can come close. All Cancers love Tauruses. But can we bulls talk any sense in to these other chicks? Knock... knock... it's like talking to a brick wall.
As a moderator, I have the obligation to warn you before I start banning. Seriously, there's no reason why you can't discuss things without insulting each other.
I am a newcomer to this thread but I am also a Cancer guy and thus, have quite a bit of experience with Cancer-Pisces relationships. I, myself, have many pisces female friends and I think I understand Pisces females to some extent and may be able to shed some light on your situation with your Cancer friend.
First, Cancers are extremely passive-aggressive. Every little thing they do is usually for a purpose or with some intent. Thus, when he doesn't pay for a meal or doesn't want to pay, it's telling you something about how he feels about you -- whether intentionally or subconsciously. Cancers never tell you directly, how they feel or what they're thinking. They're so indirect that it can be very frustrating. When they're sweet, Cancers are the sweetest, most charming people in the world. But when they start acting out of emotions and act instinctively, they can frustrate the hell out of anyone cuz nothing they do will make any sense to you.
Second, Cancers are extremely sensitive. Pisces and Cancers are the two MOST sensitive signs in the zodiac. When you nag him, he withdraws a little. When he withdraws a little, you want to nag more. It's kind of a vicious cycle.
Third (and this one has nothing to do with signs but rather, as human beings), any person who chooses to cheat as a result of problems is either not a good person, or very immature, or both. In all cases, this is someone you would want to avoid if you're looking for a serious relationship. Cheating on someone is a sign that the person does not respect you or your feelings. And without respect, it's very hard to build a solid, trusting and lasting relationship. Once this trust is broken, it's nearly impossible to get back.
The situation you described seems to suggest that the Cancer has withdrawn to a point that he's either cheating or thinking of cheating. All you can do at this point is let him go and let him figure out for himself what he really wants. If you keep pushing him, he'll just run farther away. What you need to do is let him go...that'll wake him up and let him realize what he's missing and whether he wants to make the effort to make things work between you two. It is likely that nothing you do at this point will change anything -- it's really up to him. The one thing I always tell people is that you can't change people...people can only change if they want to change.
All you can do is pray that they want to change and not to push t
All you can do is pray that they want to change and not to push them.
I wish you best of luck Sinder...i know letting go is very hard but at this point, and especially with Cancer guys, it's nearly impossible to change them. They only change when they realize things for themselves. Cancers are not the type that will change from nagging or even listen to reason -- once they're in a certain state of mind. But by letting him go, I think you may trigger them to think logically for once...and maybe realize what they're losing. Cancers hate letting go of things and if you let go of him, he may decide he doesn't want to let go of you and make a real effort to change his ways or how he treats you.
Having said all you did, even though you're a Cancer, I guess they will still beat you down and tell you that you do not display Cancer behaviour.
I wonder who else but a Cancer should confirm that Taurus is your best match 🙂, and that you are very cautious in your relationships? Well... hmmm... let's see.
"But by letting him go, I think you may trigger them to think logically for once...and maybe realize what they're losing. Cancers hate letting go of things and if you let go of him, he may decide he doesn't want to let go of you and make a real effort to change his ways or how he treats you."
I agree with all you said as well that's why I told her to take her space an just go with the flow and do her. Because she doesn't know how this will turn out. But by treating him harsh, like what she was advised to will never get her the real answer and she will only end up hurting herself.
Yea I feel like I said this millions of times about this Taurus girl... But first time I met her... Immediate attraction! Tho I think I waited to long to ask her to lunch to find out later she and her bf got back together.....
I don't know. My grandma is a Pisces and she disowned me?. I do get along with them but I think there way to emotional even for me. always complaining about something. But there cool I get along with them.
I just erfound out that he is away from work until the 3rd. so he will have to come home tomorrow...
i was thinking that i would stop over tomorrow night as if i am just checking to see if he is back and to water the plants as he had asked me to do when he left. (i told him i wouldn't because we were fighting, but i have been going there to water them when i can, one died though)
i can just act like nothing is wrong. throw my arms around him and tell him i missed him and to never forget his charger again because i worried about him when i didnt get a phone call he was ok. maybe that will throw him off—
the last conversation we had was when we were on the phone and he said he forgot his cell phone charger and he only had one bar left and he wanted to save it for an emergency.
I can just ask him if he missed me as well and go from there.
we were in the process of doing some decorating on his house so i was thinking that i can just do a little more decorating...just carry as usual and act like he was simply on vaca, forgot his phone and therefore didn't speak for that reason...
he doesn't need to know that i was a basket case and have been thinking the worst some thoughts on this anyone?
It was just to show you that even though you don't have all the info on someone else, you still continue to reply in a judgemental way to their posts. See how that harsh reality can come across?
I really don't care about your life LK and I don't think anyone else does. Nobody is keeping taps on your life nor asking you for an explanation. My post was just to show you how your responses can be very unnecessarily harsh.
"because my cancer has managed to set up pretty good boundaries." If I were tactless like you, I could respond after your reply to clarify things and say that YOU ARE MAKING EXCUSES... YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS BEHIND YOUR BACK! GROW SOME BALLS!
It's just plain rude! That's why when someone posts and you don't have all the info nor can you change their situation, you should therefore ease off on shooting them down with insults.
i really just want you guys to know that i am glad to have someone to talk to thru this.
he is still not back. I am off from work so i can either go back over there or stay away.
i believe he is going to come home today since his work vm said he was away until sept 3.
I have never experienced anything quite like this before. I cannot believe the gamut of emotions and how shocking it is to have someone just simply disappear like this without, it seems, a care..... after communicating with them for 2 straight years everyday. it has felt like the loss of a loved from from a sudden death or something like that. not knowing if he is ok.....leaving the way he did since we were arguing so bad. the "not knowing" is worse than anything. this limbo state i have been in has been one of the worse things i have experienced mentally and emotionally ever.
i personally could not be this insensitive. its so hard for me to understand since i empathize with others and i do not like to see people in pain.
i was wondering if any of you ever had someone do this to you? i don;t know of anyone that has gone through this with someone they loved deeply.
"i was wondering if any of you ever had someone do this to you?"
I am surrounded by Cancer men, and they do this all the time. When they want their space or are upset, they back up, way back! They come around when they are ready and have no regard for your feelings. They will avoid your calls and cut off all contact with you, like they didn't even know you.
Once they see that it works with you, they will continue to do. But if you show them that you have your own life and you are not waiting around for them, then they'll be a little more considerate in future. But if you call, nag, cry and ask them why they are withdrawing, they will never come back around, until you back off.
do you, in your experience, think that i should act really cool when he comes home. I want to be here. I need to see the look on his face to see if i can get a gut feeling he he wronged me while he was gone.
but as far as handling this do you think that i should just be cool about and just say, i wish you would not have forgotten your phone charger, i was worried about you. do you want to go to eat??
but as far as handling this do you think that i should just be cool about and just say, i wish you would not have forgotten your phone charger, i was worried about you. do you want to go to eat??
Watch out with that masculine energy!
In my personal opinion, men in general, NOT JUST CANCER men back off because women just put way to much meaning into the relationship than the actual MAN does himself.
Spending time with you for two years does not mean that a man is MADLY in love with you and he wants to get engaged and married to you right away. In two years that is about the time for bonding and togetherness, ONLY if you were his ideal mate within the first two years of dating.
Men DATE and if he can he will date, date, date, date until HE is ready to get married. It has to be his ideal that HE has chosen to marry you and not your ideal. Very rarely do those marriages work out long term.
SO, often women try to get to the finish line as quick as possible and don't realize that you don't HAVE to do anything in order for any man to love you besides be yourself. Putting out to much more energy esp more than the man is giving is not in a woman's best interest.
Sinder, I think you made a good point of not to assume anything with your feelings and just act like he took a vacation. You have to kind of realize and I am not trying to be cruel is that your Cancer man is not married to you and he doesn't owe you any explanations. Just be cool and no you don't have to invite him to dinner like you owe him anything. That may push him further away.
Just be yourself! No forward motion on your part and see if he doesn't come around.
ALL men pull away from women who put more meaning into a dating relationship. Men date! Most men don't rush to the finish line and nothing you can DO or SAY change the way he feels. Just go with the flow!
krobe are you suggesting that he was probably dating while he has been away?
NO, I am not suggesting that he may be seeing others but what I am saying is don't use YOUR intuition and assume that he is seeing others. You may be taking this WHOLE thing out of perspective. I am just saying be yourself and quit worrying about HIS trip that he took by himself. It is something he decided to do on his own without involving you and just quit taking it personal and throwing it out of proportion.
I have personally been in a similiar situation and being jealous just pushes any man away. SO, I would just act like I was watering the plants and don't ask him anything about his trip. I wouldn't ask him why he didn't call either. You two are not married and until he invites you into his life were you are considered a part of him, any forward motion is just putting pressure on him.
i dont want to give off negative or pushy masculine energy. all i want is to talk this thru and be how we used to be. Well I wouldn't ask him if he wants to go out and eat. I think you will probably get alot more if you let him do the initiating. Let him do the initiating, let him be the man and quit trying to take on the role of the man. If you want more from him, you have to be centered around yourself and learn to "recieve" his love instead of pushing your love on him. I bet once you realize that your energy is pushing him back with forward motion, he will be willing to give you more. If you constantly give to recieve love, you get less. You have to think about it, why would someone give you love and they KNOW if they just sit back and do nothing, you are going to keep things going. Just relax and always be in the "you" are yourself mode. No more giving for right now. If you give to a man he will feel like YOU don't NEED him to be your savior, you don't want him to be your hero. A man has got to feel like a man.
this is the first man that i ever gave a second glance to ever in my life. i didn't think love like this existed.
Yeah, well don't push anymore masculine energy out. I have been there and done that, it pushes not only Cancer men away but practically ALL men away. A man wants to be a man.
I agree with just acting like it doesn't bother you. Don't ask any questions nor act like you are upset when you see him. Like Krobe said, in reality he owes you no explanation as to where he goes or when he comes back. Although it is a gesture of respect, some men just do things to send messages to women to make them realise that they are both individuals.
That's why I prompted you to do something that you can show him that you accomplished while he was away. Show him that your life and you are not going to waste away because he disappeared for a few days. When he brags about his trip, you brag about cleaning the house, going to the zoo, sitting at a cafe, all the things you did on your own. (Even if you have to lie and you were actually just cleaning to calm your nerves) But anyhow, he needs to get the message across that you can stand on your own.
11 days! Tell him to come better than that. Did he expect you to die while he was away? Probably. But you can't give him his victory. You have to display a neutral attitude when you see him, not upset and not too over joyed.
so just sort of "be cool". Maybe act like the arguing over the past couple weeks never happened? So just let it go and just to start anew?
My main concern is if he slept with someone. I have made a commitment with this person. I have not seen anyone else and i know he hasnt. except this trip has me so scared.
i just cant; stomach it if he were to be with someone. as i said in earlier posts, that is something that is unforgiveable. but how will i know? if he had a fling why should he tell me?
it is eating at me like an ulcer. I still don't know for sure if he is coming back today or not. I think that if he does not come home and goes straight into work tomorrow that i will seriously think that he was spending his time with someone else, It wouldnt be normal to not stop home after 12 days vaca and at least relax and situate yourself before going back to work. At least those uare my thoughts..
as always, it may not seem like it, but i am really hearing you all and all the different perceptions you have from this situation. it is enlightening and has helped keep me sane.
You can't just act cool, because it still upsets you, he is still wrong and the fact still remains that you don't know what happened. But you won't know right away either unless he comes out and tells you. You have to be very visulent from here on out to beable to know that answer. He is back home now... so you can tell what would be off to determine if there is someone else, instead of basing off of assumptions.
i decided to go to his place today and i see he has not arrived home yet...the suspense as to if this is over or not or if he betrayed me is unbearable. i think that even if its the worst thing that at least I KNOW something.
At this point, no one has heard hide nor hair from him. I keep cleaning and have tried to start a painting to keep my mind off of this. I brought my easel and supplies with me so if he comes home it will look like i am very preoccupied.
I feel that i really want to be here when he first walks through the door to see the look on his face. to see if there is guilt, anger, happiness or whatever.
I have been reading about some things regarding lying. that if he tells a lie, he will look to the right and/or repeat the question. hopefully that is correct advice,
The neutral thing is good lady taurus, i can't act like something that i am not or act oblivious to this really screwed up behaviour. All i can do is be here and hopefully there is something left of this relationship. I don;t want it to end. I hope and pray he didn't do anything to hurt me. I feel like the damn will burst if he did.
If you guys don't live together I wouldn't wait around by his house until he comes. If you have your own place I would stay there and see if he calls. He may be just expecting you to be there and that'll annoy him further. Do something unexpected of your normal behaviour. 😉
No, I am not saying acting phony either! If you are upset, you are upset and nothing is going to stop you from being upset. What I am saying is, don't use your gut feelings or intuition to think the worst of this situation. For all you know, he may bring home and engagement ring and if you burst out with insecurities acting jealous and accusing him of things then you may PUSH away your relationship.
If you don't feel and that is a BIG word FEEL cool, then you don't have to act cool. Use your feelings to express your words that you want to say to him but in a cool, leveled, grounded way instead of arguing with him. If you argue, he is going to go into defense mode and withdraw again.
What I am saying is put down ALL your defenses for the moment and take time to feel what is actually going on inside of YOU! Use your feelings to guide your words that you have to say to him. You know just like I know, a real woman will say what she has to say but say it with her choice of words and not being critical or judgemental towards him at all. I agree with LT act like your life has been so busy without him that you really haven't noticed that he was gone. IF you are really bothered, say what you have to say but say it in a cool way. Like, hey, I feel lonely and worried when I don't hear from you are you ok!
Always share your feelings but don't go over the edge using your intuition or gut feelings on YOUR personal beliefs of what you think happened to guide you. Wait until you get a your feelings together and talk to him in a non confrontational way. I wouldn't hang around his house waiting on him, remember-YOU HAVE A LIFE WITH OR WITHOUT HIM!
Burns! Doesn't it?
Usually it's not my style but I got down to your level! Insulting is your game and that we shall play. How does it feel to be spat on with nasty words?!!!