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or devastating anyone.

and apparently this "discreet encounters for married people" online service is advertised in periodicals such as...

business week
time
usa today
sports illustrated

wtf. UGH!!

vomit inducing right Gumshoe?


and no worries about the avo. 😛 I've reconciled with the other half of it... we'll work together the next time i'm in the kitchen getting sauced. lol!

"As Robert George put it after the election, limited government —cannot be maintained where the marriage culture collapses and families fail to form or easily dissolve. Where these things happen, the health, education, and welfare functions of the family will have to be undertaken by someone, or some institution, and that will sooner or later be the government.?? Marriage is what makes the entire Western project——?liberalism, the dignity of the human person, the free market, and the limited, democratic state——?possible. George continues, —The two greatest institutions ever devised for lifting people out of poverty and enabling them to live in dignity are the market economy and the institution of marriage. These institutions will, in the end, stand or fall together.?? [emphasis added]

The above is from a very interesting article that can be found here: http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/nation-singles_664275.html?page=1<BR>

i havent noticed capgirl, but your right. now that you point it out, it almost seems like you need to be 1. watching an black and white or 2. watching a Lifetime to see good morals upheld.

our societal values are completely twisted and that ad was the worst i've ever seen. gawd

*despair*

that's what i'm up to tonight for dinner! 🙂 I ran out of fennel from that salad but i now have everything else and am about to head out to a DIFF grocery store for a few items including fennel LOL as for the avo, it can get jelly while it's on time-out.

so someone did you dirty >;[ they'll get theirs. i hope that liquid escape did the trick. it always exacerbates issues for me lol

and stoic... thanks for sharing that! !!! that's a profound excerpt. i was sitting here thinking where is this rotting set of standards coming from. i never thought of it like that. we've all got it backwards. i'm def reading that link as soon as i get back. gracias!

Posted by capgirl75
Haha:
Libra- mom, can you get me milk?
Me- I just gave you juice.
Libra- well now I want milk.
Me- well why don't you go get some?
Libra- no thank you.
Me- you are fully capable of getting your own milk, you know. Why must I do everything?
Libra- I know, you're right. I have humerus bones and muscles. But I just don't feel like getting up now.
Me- you have humerus bones? Lol.
Libra- yeah, you know, arm bones.

My libra is 9. He amazes me with his vocabulary.

HAHAHAHAHA! ahhh capgirl.. i needed this after that ridiculous ad. mercy

The entire article is interesting, but the paragraph I excerpted from very near the end really caught my attention.

Demographic trends are probably one of the best examples of the law of large numbers. The inertia behind them is immense...it's like trying to change the trajectory or velocity of an aircraft carrier. The numbers show the direction in which society in the States is headed. Indeed, they show the "circle of life" of all societies. The change now underway in the developed world is change toward a model that is not self-sustainable. It will collapse...because it must; everyone cannot live at the expense of someone else.

It is most unlikely to be an overnight collapse. Change on a societal level plays out over decades, centuries, even. The (im)moral values that encourage adultery are the same that underlie the irresponsible, entitlement mentality that is relentlessly displacing the thought processes and values that enabled a country of farmers to rise to become the world's sole superpower.

Let me know what you think after you've read it, Creepy. De nada!

i know exactly what you mean i think. :\ it's tough getting your head and heart to work together sometimes. a lesson in progress

speaking of recipes... if you havent tried that fennel avo salad... eeek! please do! it's a life changer 😛

mkay...

gumshoe... the bake was amazeballz. I'm keeping that recipe and possibly enjoying it under the nose of poor scorpypoo lol. OR give him some dairy meds and cross my fingers 😛

stoic...

wow. yup. those number are amazing and why more attention isnt being paid to this.. — is beyond me.

it's difficult conundrum for me knowing where the best place to start fixing things, being right smack in the generation this article talks about.

there are a lot of ideas that i notice about the masses and i've always noticed them separately, but this article brings it all together. what Robert George wrote was profound, but the quote i found most alarming was Joel Kotkins... —[A] society that is increasingly single and childless is likely to be more concerned with serving current needs than addressing the future,?? he writes. —We could tilt more into a —now?? society, geared towards consuming or recreating today, as opposed to nurturing and sacrificing for tomorrow.??

Even when I myself was in college, I began to notice young adults just a few years younger than myself were becoming more and more ... temperamental, and just seemed to require more coddling and attention. The "entitlement generation" which is technically my generation, but I fell faaaar from that tree, follows right after liberal, anti-label, free thinking gen x and who knows what will come right after the entitlement gen. But it seems more and more apparent that the majority is singularly minded. Every man for himself and therefore singularly self-gratifying mentality/habits are easily formed. We dont glorify commitment and self-sacrifice like we used to, but rather the highly accomplished, self-made individual. A person can't really carve a path like that in a relationship... not if both are geared to be as such.

Whats more is that a recession will cause people to think heavily on starting a family. It's expensive, and we're here working hard 'making ourselves'. Do we really want to put in all these long hours only to wind down the day sacrificing for tomorrow? So this idea of the institute of marriage and having kids to cajole us into thinking more heavily on the future and sacrificing for it seems a little out of reach. I'm speaking from the single mindset. Not saying it's right, it's just the train of thought.

We arent thinking of our future. We are in fact thinking of 'right now'. There are pressing matters at hand and you almost can't survive unless you're putting yourself 1st. I see all of these issues (recession>>singularity complex>>less thought of future>>deeper recession) compounding on each other unless we can change our focus ever so sli

...ever so slightly. shoot... maybe drastically. life finds it's balance. those number appear to be on the verge of tipping a scale and well you know what happens when a scale tips over...

awe... i wish we could all just meet at a pub and get mangled together. how cute would that be 😛

2011 was year of the CreepyPants Car Lockout... I think I locked myself out of my car maybe 4 or 5 times. Wasn't even a matter of embarrassment, it was just plain tiresome. lol

Capi just broke up with me....

Posted by M
What happened?

We talked about having kids previously so I brought up the subject and he said he didn't want to just yet..
so I asked if that meant not now or not ever...
It's not something that I'm willing to compromise on.
This morning I asked him if I was part of his future plans..
He replied what if ur not... which didn't sound like there was much left to save at that point.
I told him its not about questioning my loyalty to him. I just wanted to know if I'm part of his plans.
He said he'd thought about what we discussed about me wanting kids n running out of time. That its for the best for us both to move on.
Cold..point blank..not open to question.
This after me trying to make him more open n him saying he'd be ok with being vulnerable with me and that I make him weak..

Well if its not something you are willing to compromise on, he let you know he's not willing either. He may have felt it was no point to talk if the two of you are both set on what you want/dont want.

Sorry to hear about the break up.

Posted by lnana04
Well if its not something you are willing to compromise on, he let you know he's not willing either. He may have felt it was no point to talk if the two of you are both set on what you want/dont want.

Sorry to hear about the break up.

Thanks for replying, it's not like I wanted to have kids right now but it was something he said he wanted.
Yh he let me know. It's a shame really that he could think about it but not talk to me about it.
ESP when we were trying to be more open.

Oh goodness. I guess my Cap friend is getting into astrology now. Hes mentioned Capricorn three times in the past two days. He just called telling me more about his plans for this year. I think he's trying to do too much too fast and needs to focus on one thing at a time. I told him how he "should" do things and he goes "well you know that we're both Capricorns, which mean we dont listen so Im gonna do what I want sucker" lol. I know Im right.

Posted by SamCancerGirl

Posted by lnana04
Well if its not something you are willing to compromise on, he let you know he's not willing either. He may have felt it was no point to talk if the two of you are both set on what you want/dont want.

Sorry to hear about the break up.

Thanks for replying, it's not like I wanted to have kids right now but it was something he said he wanted.
Yh he let me know. It's a shame really that he could think about it but not talk to me about it.
ESP when we were trying to be more open.

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Ahh, I see, especially if he said he wanted kids. I also see what you mean about thinking and not talking too. Itll probably be easier said than done, but I wouldnt stress. Leave him completely alone to marinate on his thoughts and his premature decision to end it. He'll be back, or atleast regret it if you leave it alone.

Thanks for replying, it's not like I wanted to have kids right now but it was something he said he wanted.
Yh he let me know. It's a shame really that he could think about it but not talk to me about it.
ESP when we were trying to be more open.



Ahh, I see, especially if he said he wanted kids. I also see what you mean about thinking and not talking too. Itll probably be easier said than done, but I wouldnt stress. Leave him completely alone to marinate on his thoughts and his premature decision to end it. He'll be back, or atleast regret it if you leave it alone.




I'll make sure not to blow up his phone this week like a cookiemonster 🙂
Hopefully he'll be back after he's thought about it a bit more..
it's prob his way of getting the control back after letting go n letting me take advantage last week.

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one more hour 🙂

Posted by M
I agree with what lnana said, especially given what you said about his sensitivity and the bumps you two have had before. It's good to know up front about those things...spares both of you a more difficult division later. Not likely to pan out when people stay together expecting the other to eventually come around to their side.


Do you think it was strictly over the kids issue? He could have handled it better, but perhaps your desire to expand or map his position, it made him uncomfortable and the break was his out.

Maybe it's an out for him as it was making him too uncomfortable..
Sounds more likely..

Posted by cowpuncher
Sam, don't give up on your dreams, especially kids, for anybody. There are lots of other fish in the sea... go after what you want and get it.

CW - he knows having them is something important to me it's too important to just stay without them it's a deal breaker

Cap: picks up Aries son from a school event.
Aries: Getting in car, "Sigh...I hate stupid people".

Then he went on to tell this story about a fundraiser some of the kids did and drinks and coolers and ice about how they were doing it the hard way. He made a suggestion to make things easier and more efficient.

Kid at school: "You're not working in here." Kid goes about his business, things aren't working out, asks my son again what his idea was.
Aries: "I don't work in here, remember".

I was thinking, such an Aries thing thinking your ideas are the only ones that work. Then refusing help when they didn't listen the first time.

Lol!!!

Posted by M

Posted by SamCancerGirl

Posted by cowpuncher
Sam, don't give up on your dreams, especially kids, for anybody. There are lots of other fish in the sea... go after what you want and get it.

CW - he knows having them is something important to me it's too important to just stay without them it's a deal breaker

Keep this in mind, because it will dictate the reconciliation, if any.

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Saw capi today - asked him to listen n that he didn't need to respond but just really listen.
So about the convo we had last time n him tryn to b aloof I said he knew which convo I meant, that it didn't mean I wanted them
Right away but I do want them. We hugged n cuddled then I asked him how it felt he said it was nice. I told him when we need to talk I'd like to do it face to face n close.
So he mirrored his movements to what I was saying.. baby steps.
It's how u say things n the way it comes across all in the delivery...
Wish I had read the advice on here b4 I brought up the subject last time.
Any way I'm not sure what happens nxt, left the ball in his court, up to him to intiate. Plus need to
remind myself to back away n not blow up his phone like a cookie monster.
I did what I could 🙂

Posted by CapMusic
Said burger was delicious.

Did u get fries with that— Soo hungry!!

Posted by M
"It's how u say things n the way it comes across all in the delivery..."
This 🙂 A truth for many occasions. Glad you found a talking point again.

Me too _??_

you, so far away
and my spirit raging
here with a storm
cradled by the sky
and rocked by the wind
lingering over the earth
these are outpourings
what seethed is now soaring
carried in the weather
like a message
welled in the clouds
stinging in my eyes
i'll hold it in my eyes
wellspring inside
it weighs in these clouds
may this feeling bide 'til you
as the promise of a zephyr
rain down where you are
temper your spirit
to stormless rest

Took me FOUR hours to get to work today because of ice and snow and wrecks everywhere. We're just not used to that mess down here. (It usually takes me an hour and half. )

it feels good to know i can help when life is at its lowest, but sometimes it feels gut wrenchingly lonely

I'm in a pissy mood today! It's raining and cold outside, my back is out of whack, I couldn't sleep last night, and I work with fricken idiots!

Hey! Those years of experience I have under my belt take a toll LOL

Ice and freezing rain yesterday, 50 degrees today. Gotta love that Texas weather!

Posted by M

Posted by lildol
Hey! Those years of experience I have under my belt take a toll LOL

LOL

*I mustn't take the bait*

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Of course, those years of experience serve me well in other areas 😉

Yay! I got the correct date!

For some reason I can never seem to remember exactly when my Dads bday is. Its something about the 15th, 16th,17th that confuses me. Well I just called and opened the convo like a retard in saying "hey, today is your birthday right?" How obvious was my uncertainty there? And what if he wouldve said its tomorrow, or was yesterday *cringe*? Anyway, it was today! He's 47yrs old. So happy I got it right.

Fish & Chips sounds good for dinner tonight!

I'll have to settle for fish and Tater Tots though... no "Chips" in the freezer 😢

Hell to that! A baked potato sounds good with lots of sour cream!

Of course, now I need to change up the fish *scratches head*

Got it! I'll fry my fish with old bay, that will go perfect with a baked potato...

Wait, once you fry something healthy it becomes not so, I'll guess I'll have to bake the fish...

Salad would be the perfect pairing for my baked fish and potato! 😄

But, I have no salad fixings (except croutons) 😭

I am not wondering back out in the cold either! Forget that shit!!!

DAMNIT!

Cold barley soup it is then...

I lost my amulet the day before 😢

cleaned up the house, under the bed, checked everywhere, the laundry bin, clothes, ect.

nothing. I love that amulet. Maybe I'll find it soon.

Starbucks coffee this morning. Really?!?!?! $ 4.70 for a large coffee?
It tasted no better the $ 1.40 coffee I buy at the truck stop or for coffee I make at home.

What's the fascination with Starbucks? I don't get it. Big waste of money.

my starbucks pick is a macchiato with soy... the soy adds another buck, but it's the difference sometimes between a shitty day and a really good day lol. how terrible

i saw a dead bee on a side walk today and it made me think of this...

I first learned about CCD right around the epidemic in 2007. Colony Collapse Disorder of Honey Bees. I had a terrifying bout of sleep paralysis back then while I was laying in bed thinking about how it could have significant impact on our ecology, agriculture and could be a significant implication of a changing environment. all of these thoughts brought on the illusion of a demon in the corner of my ceiling in my room ready to pull my soul away from my body... which is what made me realize i was sleep paralyzed. terrifying.

ever since then, any time i see a dead or dying bee, it literally breaks my heart and leaves me with an unsettled nervous feeling.



they are a keystone species. a species that has a "disproportionately large effect on it's environment relative to it's own abundance" Since 2007, year over year, there has been a roughly 30% decline in honey bee colonies, with the demand for production only increasing. this decline in colonies result in the decline of agricultural production for crops in certain areas, and i recall seeing in the news some crop owners, in tears, had lost their businesses and damn near everything they had.

one last detail that i think is the most perplexing is that the bees dont just die... the whole colony disappears, leaving behind the honey and brood, but no dead bees anywhere. researchers have yet to prove exact causes. there are theories and leads, but no proof. i suppose some good news is that in 2011 and '12, colony losses dropped to only 22% as opposed to the roughly 30% . yay?

for good bee health, refrain from using pesticides/insect killers around day time hrs, their working hours
plant these nectar and pollen rich plants...

red clover


foxglove


and wild bergamot (wild bee balm)


...and, love your earth as much as you can. they're such innocent creatures that do nothing but work, pollenate our crops, give us honey... a natural sweetener with long known amazing healing properties. they're vanishing on us at an alarming rate and we cant figure out why.

I'm arranging a set up tonight between my Leo male friend and Cappy female friend. Hoping it goes well! He's an earthy Leo, so crossing my fingers they hit it off.

Sooo...

It appears a few Cappies will be in the superbowl, again, this year. The dilemma is...which team do I go for?

The coach brothers will go head to head this year... Jim(Cap-coach of the 49ers) vs. John(Libra-coach of the Ravens). Do I go for the Cap(Dec23rd) coach of the 49ers?

Or Joe Flacco, the Cap quarterback of the Ravens, who has Bernard Pollard(Dec23rd) on the team?

The Cap coach, or Cap Quarterback? Decisions decisions lol. In all honesty, I havent watched one football game this season, but the superbowl sounds like it will be interesting with Jim vs. John.

CP, yea that really is good info. It's good to be informed, but people have to keep themselves informed and to check their sources... and their sources sources. serious.

there def should be heavier crack down, M... but just like with other fda issues such aspartame... there's a disgusting amount of cross bedding that's annihilated the integrity of our system of checks and balances. it's stupefying.

and imo, you're right cp, i feel like the gmo crops are highly likely number one cause for our poor honey bees.

why? i wonder. we dont need gmos. last year there was a report from the nrdc that up to 40% of u.s. food supply goes to complete waste. a week ago or so i remember catching on cnn, some british based institution found that between 30 - 50% of the worlds supply of food doesnt even make it past farmer-producer end of the supply chain and that around 40% of what we buy as consumers doesnt actually get consumed.

we're way off balance here. and so nature will find it for us...

Seriously seriously seriously x infinity considering breaking last falls contract. Mmmhmmm.

The heck elle?! You've been missed!!! How dare you?! 😉

Very good to see you on the boards xoxo

i'm gonna crack open a bottle of vino and cheers to you on that 3m 😛

My micro-managing Leo supervisor is at it again! I don't need someone breathing down my neck constantly... oh, and he thinks I should come out of my office and be more social to boot. I don't have time for that crap!!!

Now I've been told I have to train the backstabbing Scorpio to do my job functions!!!

just got back from snowboarding... i am so SICK with it! lol jk. im such a newb, but it was my 3rd time ever and i'm already carving.




side note... broke up with scorpypoo. yep. it was actually suggested by me a couple weeks ago, but it's real now. i'm so over the issues. there was a lot... A LOT... that I tolerated. i can't do it anymore. he was apologetic. said he tried his best. he kept accusing me of hating him, probably because i was so resolute and "cold" i guess, but i finally said, "i really dont hate you. i just hate the fact that you will finally learn and change when it's already too late."

we'd been having issues ever since our "break" last summer, and many things did change, just not the things i needed or had been asking for.

i'm not going to be able to be his friend either. i know for a fact that everything i'd asked for... he'll change from here on out, just enough, now that i've ended it. i wont be able to handle it.

The Leo is a major ass! Last Thur he instructed me to implement something, Fri was an ideal opportunity so I did. Now, he's on me because I implemented it without telling him I was doing so AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH *rips hair out*