@virgodog58
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I would never hurt someone unless that person has hurt me terribly. I am a very tolerant person and because I see both sides of a situation, I tend to understand why people act or react a certain way. However, if you cut me, I will cut you worse!
An no, I do not enjoy hurting people or upsetting people in any way.
Gosh, we're not cold people and yes, you're being very unfair.
No, I can't stand to hurt people, so if I have set out to hurt you on purpose, then you really, REALLY, R-E-A-L-L-Y have it coming (and whose fault is that?)
Geminis do like to play with people, though, and poke at them...especially when they're annoyed by those people, or think they're arrogant or stupid. People can be hurt by it, or else they can take it as a signal to alter the way they're interacting with the Gem for a more positive result.
Posted by virgodog58
As a Virgo I admit that I tend to have a rather negative image of Geminis as people who like to hurt other people (I mean on an emotional level mainly, although as many of you may know The Marquis de Sade was indeed a Gemini!) So, do you positively enjoy upsetting people (perhaps as a form of entertainment), do you just not care as long as you are getting what you want, or do you think that I am being completely unfair to Geminis here?
don't know where you get your opinion of gems from, but it's totally unfounded imho. gems are outgoing and emotional at times. that's our nature. the virgo's i've personally known were opposite. they were distant, seemed detached, and the only emotion i ever really felt from them was when they were angry with you for some apparent reason; mostly known only to them.
I'm sure gems unintentionally hurt their spouses/BF's/GF's etc. about the same as other signs. it's part of being in a relationship. anyone who says they have never hurt their loved one with words or actions isn't being intellectually honest. It's part of human nature. however, most of us understand that we are not perfect and do the right thing and apologize. THAT is the biggest difference I have had with Virgo's and NO other sign. Although I have been the target of a couple male virgo's wrath, I have NEVER ONCE received an apology from them despite the fact they were in the wrong. Bottom line: it's either an insecurity issue or ego issue. You tell me. You're a Virgo. Why can't male virgo's apologize?
OK then I'm sorry if I have misjudged you all! But perhaps you may hurt people without realising it or without intending it if you are too detached and for example make fun of somebody who is too thin-skinned (like a Cancer or a Virgo!) Perhaps the bottom line is that Geminis treat everything as though it were a bit of a joke and that may upset more serious-minded signs?
gems are known for having a sense of humor, i know i do. and i love making people laugh. however, that doesn't mean i'm not serious when it counts. i take serious things seriously.
i do, however, love good sarcasm. most virgo's i've been around do too. they can dish it out every bit as i can. however, MOST virgo's i've been around can't take it dished back. it all comes back to self esteem and confidence. Gemini's don't repress our feelings...MOST of the time. however, virgo's often do. when you keep things inside, it build up tension and conflict. i've seen this in virgo's personally several times. I'd rather just have something argue with me up front than sulk behind my back only to yell some total BS at me a day or two later.
btw, I'm still waiting for your reason behind asking such a generic question of one sign? you don't give any explanation or personal experience behind your question.
This isn't based on one particular bad experience or anything like that, but rather somehow on an apparent accumulation of impressions over the years. Most of the time my path doesn't seem to particularly cross with Geminis so I don't really get a chance to talk to them much which is why I put this on here.
I think they do.
We were just asked point blank and said we don't.
Posted by bkbella86
I think they do.
Based on what? You're assumption? please don't give any examples or substantive comments. by all means, just post conjuncture. My 13 year old German Shepherd can give a more reasoned response than you did.
no. what sort of stupid question is this??
Touche. But refer to the first comment I made. We have sharp tongues when we're annoyed, but it doesn't mean we're getting twisted pleasure out of hurting people. People have a lot of audacity to strike at us when they're not wearing any armor, and then whine about the mean Geminis when they get wounded.
i, myself, will cry if even found out that i hurt someone accidentally! i could never hurt someone on purpose. now, if you have done something wrong to me, AND you know that you have... i have been known to take it, until i feel/think it's time for a life lesson. but in cases like those... you have really hurt yourself.
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Posted by gemini64
Posted by bkbella86
I think they do.
Based on what? You're assumption? please don't give any examples or substantive comments. by all means, just post conjuncture. My 13 year old German Shepherd can give a more reasoned response than you did.
I dunno, they may come across as a bit 'ruff' to some lol.
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Gemini's are just to the point people and we often speak without thinking first. We're blunt. Some people can't stand stark honesty like that. Do people get hurt behind that sometimes? Sure; if we offend we have no ego--we will apologize because hurt is most likely not the intent. I have to admit I have to "edit" myself quite a bit, but I truly mean no harm. You either hate us or love us...but we probably don't care either way. Bottom line is no, we do not enjoy hurting people for sport.
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Posted by bkbella86
I think they do.
Based on what? You're assumption? please don't give any examples or substantive comments. by all means, just post conjuncture. My 13 year old German Shepherd can give a more reasoned response than you did.
I dunno, they may come across as a bit 'ruff' to some lol.
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It's really simple. If you make a blanket statement and can't provide substantive information to support your claim, then as a Gemini, i'm not going to give you the benefit of the doubt.
that's not being "rough"....or as in your case...."ruff", that's being intellectually honest.
I have personally been hurt by many people close to me and/those in the work place whom i consider not so close. it's called being a human being. btw, i work in healthcare. i bend over backwards to help patients. I love to help people, that is my life endeavor and my greatest reward. However, people often don't simply help themselves when they could. People can be lazy, including making false perceptions based on some astrological sign.
I think where Virgo's and Gemini's connect is this: we are both driven to analyze and see a "purpose" in a thought/action. Virgo's tend to be more introspective where Gemini's tend to be more "doers" and digest a comment/situation with a reaction. Neither is right nor wrong. It is what it is. However, as a Gemini, even if I'm not at fault, i usually take the higher ground and try to rectify the situation. I have yet to have a Virgo do that for me. One could argue it's a "sign" thing OR it's a self esteem/confidence issue. It's could be one or both. I don't know. but I do know that people are people. The experiences you have with them in your life time can establish some similarities as well as the many differences we all experience.
As a Gemini female, I find it's myself being hurt, not the other way around. Gemini's like to juggle many things at any one time, and may come across as fickle (we're not, we are usually on the button) but I dont see the Gemini trait as one to hurt other people, either for the fun of it (bit sick if you ask me) or otherwise, and certainly no more than the other star signs.
I hope that helps you, there is one thing to be said however, and that is, if you've been hurt by a Gem, I can understand your question, but we're not like that.
Posted by GemStar05
Gemini's are just to the point people and we often speak without thinking first. We're blunt. Some people can't stand stark honesty like that. Do people get hurt behind that sometimes? Sure; if we offend we have no ego--we will apologize because hurt is most likely not the intent. I have to admit I have to "edit" myself quite a bit, but I truly mean no harm. You either hate us or love us...but we probably don't care either way. Bottom line is no, we do not enjoy hurting people for sport.
+1!!! This is extremely accurate!
A dull and repedetive liberal who wrote kiddie-porn among many other things. π Anyway, I find Geminis to be somewhat amoral above all. Not immoral, but amoral. I don't think I could ever trust one with my heart, but I like them as friends.
*repetitive
Thank you π
I find the majority of Geminis rude and offensive in general.
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Posted by Cancerflower5808
I find the majority of Geminis rude and offensive in general.
I can't speak for all the other Gems, but Yes. I am rude and offensive!!! LOL...did u date a GeM?click to expand
I dated one a long time ago.
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Posted by Cancerflower5808
I find the majority of Geminis rude and offensive in general.
I find cancers super rude and super offensive. Sometimes a lil joke too can be dragged out/misunderstood and blown out of proportion. Very pushy and very bossy.
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Oh is that so? I have not met a rude Cancer before. Well, some of the males can be a tad rude at times. What sign are you btw?
Posted by Maddy
I'm revengful (Scorpio Rising). If you hurt me on purpose, I will hurt you back 10 times more. If you're nice, decent, normal human being, I will be extra nice to you. However, if you hurt me unintentionally, I'll forgive you once or twice.
Same here. I am a Scorpio rising as well, though I don't know much about rising signs or charts in general.
Posted by Maddy
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Posted by DeadRingerr
Posted by Cancerflower5808
I find the majority of Geminis rude and offensive in general.
I can't speak for all the other Gems, but Yes. I am rude and offensive!!! LOL...did u date a GeM?
I dated one a long time ago.
What did he do to you that you dislike Gems so much? You even dedicated a thread just for us?.... How thoughtful!
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Oh Gosh. I think you misunderstood. He had nothing to do with it. Female Gems have been the ones who made me dislike Gems and a few males here and there. Also, I did not intend to "dedicate" a thread specifically for Geminis.
But still I do not judge someone simply because they are a Gemini. I give everyone a chance.
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Posted by Cancerflower5808
But still I do not judge someone simply because they are a Gemini. I give everyone a chance.
I can tell π
LMAO!!!! this keeps getting better...πclick to expand
Wow seriously? I have tried to explain myself to both of you,but of course neither of you will listen. Oh well.
I find it odd how you seem to have gotten offended over someone's opinion. I could care less if others do not like the majority of Cancers. It's their opinion.
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But still I do not judge someone simply because they are a Gemini. I give everyone a chance.
I can tell π
LMAO!!!! this keeps getting better...π
Wow seriously? I have tried to explain myself to both of you,but of course neither of you will listen. Oh well.
You're contradicting yourself honey. You made a thread and you said that you dislike Geminis of both sexes, and now you keep saying here that you give everybody a chance.
Never mind. You're the one who is not listening, and no one is offended. I'm not. This is a public forum, you can post anything you like. Carry on.
Take Care!
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I would assume most people would have enough sense to know I do not mean EVERY gemini out there. My Gosh. I will voice my opinion if I choose to. Neither of you would have an issue if I stated I disliked another sign. Some people are not fond of MOST not ALL Geminis. Get over it.
Posted by virgodog58
As a Virgo I admit that I tend to have a rather negative image of Geminis as people who like to hurt other people (I mean on an emotional level mainly, although as many of you may know The Marquis de Sade was indeed a Gemini!) So, do you positively enjoy upsetting people (perhaps as a form of entertainment), do you just not care as long as you are getting what you want, or do you think that I am being completely unfair to Geminis here?
I would look at the moon sign instead because those I talk to which are water suns seem to take things lightly than I do. My chart is dominated by air, but I don't know why I don't act like one. I'm a Gemini Sun, and I feel that people around me doesn't care as much as I do.
I don't enjoy hurting people.
I have a lot of dear Cancer friends, and something I notice is that they tend to misinterpret things I say. No idea why...it's just a difference in communication style s. Often, this leads to the Cancer feeling offended or hurt. It's frustrating, because I don't set out to offend my friends. I have to choose my words very carefully around Cancers to ensure that my sentences don't contain double meanings. The communication breakdown doesn't work both ways, though. I don't misunderstand the Cancers (as far as I know).
As a gemini who's been around some Virgos, I can say that Geminis wouldn't want to hurt people's feelings intentionally. Maybe at times our mouth works faster than our brain? But yeah, in my case, I wouldn't want to hurt the Virgos I'm around with specially knowing that Virgos are worriers. I would rather make the situation light and crack some jokes to cheer them up rather than offend them. π
Posted by Maddy
You're contradicting yourself honey. You made a thread and you said that you dislike Geminis of both sexes, and now you keep saying here that you give everybody a chance.
I really see nothing contradictionary in her statement. All of us generalize about certain type of people, but it doesen't mean we don't give them a chance. It just means that we generally know what kind of people rub us the wrong way.
Posted by Cancerflower5808I would assume most people would have enough sense to know I do not mean EVERY gemini out there. My Gosh. I will voice my opinion if I choose to. Neither of you would have an issue if I stated I disliked another sign. Some people are not fond of MOST not ALL Geminis. Get over it.click to expand
Don't even try explaining yourself, they will just keep acting dumb so that they can twist your words. I've been their so many times myself. I'm a Cancer moon btw. People really love to act dumb around us.
Posted by Whimsy
I have a lot of dear Cancer friends, and something I notice is that they tend to misinterpret things I say. No idea why...it's just a difference in communication style s. Often, this leads to the Cancer feeling offended or hurt. It's frustrating, because I don't set out to offend my friends. I have to choose my words very carefully around Cancers to ensure that my sentences don't contain double meanings. The communication breakdown doesn't work both ways, though. I don't misunderstand the Cancers (as far as I know).
3 cancers i know. they're both friends. one acts the one you just described, and the other cancer has to explain to her that i wasn't being offensive. i think it's the style and tone? idk. the third cancer we get along so well. both cancer that understand me have their moon sign in cancer like mine. the one who misunderstand me all the time has her moon in taurus.
I don't enjoy hurting people but if you lash out at me I will lash out at you--if I feel like it. Most times I will make you feel so stupid you'll leave me alone. However, I have a huge heart and normally I'm the one who's taking up for people who are being hurt. Must be my Taurus side (I believe I'm a Taurus-Gemini cusper). Also my rising is in Cancer so that's where the emotional part comes in (ughh hate that Cancer weakness in me sometimes...lol). You have us Gems allllllll wrong...
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Posted by bkbella86
I think they do.
Based on what? You're assumption? please don't give any examples or substantive comments. by all means, just post conjuncture. My 13 year old German Shepherd can give a more reasoned response than you did.
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LMAO! I think that was just a "jab" at Gems more than anything really constructive to add to the discussion.... :-)
Posted by Cancerflower5808
I find the majority of Geminis rude and offensive in general.
I would expect such a retort from an ultra emotional Cancer...sheesh! Anyone have some tissue? LOL! OMG! Was that rudeβ??
Gems seem to enjoy annoying people, getting on people's nerves...
and yes, they enjoy hurting people. not cool.
Hello there! I'm a Gemini. I've already stated several times that I do not enjoy hurting people. So...will people please stop saying that "they" enjoy it? The title of this thread is "Geminis, do you enjoy hurting people?". That means (derp) that Geminis are being asked. If you would like to start a thread called, "Do You Think Geminis Enjoy Hurting People?", then, by all means, go for it.
I also do not enjoy annoying people. Do I enjoy knocking jerks down a few pegs? ABSOLUTELY! That's not the same thing as hurting. If you're an ass, you need to get schooled. If you're the sensitive type that's going to get hurt by being called out, then you shouldn't be being an ass in the first place, now should you?
Are we talking about serial murderers, pedophiles, sex offenders, clinically insane? or are we still talking about fun-loving-charming-witty-adventurous,-kind-child-like,-innocent wide eyed geminis?
this thread post is absolutely RAH-tarded. as if any other sign is morally and ethically above it all. laughable.
haha how contradictory of you. i just did voice my opinion and whether or not you got the wits to understand the sarcasm is another story. wanna hear a more balanced opinion?
i never stated WHO was ridiculous and nor did i state how i didn't enjoy the input. assumption. tsk tsk. heres another thing, im not a gem. If your stating that people have the right to voice their opinion then how could you then tell me i shouldn't bother. Dont need to get offended by my light hearted response. or is it a mere projection on your end assuming i am a gem hence the number 4) Refusing to admit their mistakes or wrong doings.
i dont need to repeat what you said which i can agree upon especially after dating a lot of gems. SUBJECTIVELY, this threads question "do gems enjoy hurting people" is absurd. hence the gems being offended. NOR is that a reflection of them as a whole rejecting ALL responsibility of their wrong doings.
1)You bringing your biased projections of your gemini exs and applying to this thread with "I think the fact that many Geminis here are taking offence speaks volumes." of what exactly? if i came up to you and assumed and asked "do you enjoy hurting people? my ex was a cap. my family members are all caps..and they fucked me over, my ex best friend was a cap. you must enjoy hurting..i mean you do hurt people but..why?" can you honestly not see how that is insulting? what if i came up to you and asked "hey i had a lot of capricorns in my life and that screwed me over, im not saying everyone is like that, but i thought i come to you to seek some clarity into a capricorns mind". now that is asking for solutions and seeking CONSTRUCTIVE ideas.
2) balance? I think my comment is the opposite of what you think is balance. that is the balance i offered. also implying that people are people, minus the aforementioned, its hard to imagine any sign to enjoy hurting someone INTENTIONALLY. enjoy? If most are stating how gems hurt people..then the other balance is ......___INSERT____?
so my problem isnt that im unaware of all the sides. its that the question itself is one that even i would not subject myself to answering. thats the other side.
3. constructive? lol whose asking advice?
4. just because i wrote "this thread is absurd" doesnt make me any more different than the objections voiced here either. OH right did you want me to agree with you? i did. now its upt oyou to get your head out the clouds and see this forum and the question subjec
Most of the Gems i know love teasing people. Some "victims" will inevitably be offended, no matter what words Gems choose to use. I have to admit they get on my nerves sometimes, i'm a rather serious person.
I'm yet to met a sadistic Gemini (Saga from Saint Seiya could be an exception though). The ones i know can be manipulative and mythomaniacal at their worst, but they mean no harm to anyone.
Also i'm pretty sure you can get bastards from all zodiac signs.
Posted by Nicrobliz
Posted by candi3bb
Are we talking about serial murderers, pedophiles, sex offenders, clinically insane? or are we still talking about fun-loving-charming-witty-adventurous,-kind-child-like,-innocent wide eyed geminis?this thread post is absolutely RAH-tarded. as if any other sign is morally and ethically above it all. laughable.
I couldn't be bothered to read your long-winded rant but the post above reeks of immaturity (and is probably no different to your subsequent meanderings). At least I have had years of experience with Geminis and the capacity of my relationship with them shouldn't be childishly scrutinised.
Oh, and please quit with the personal insults - it's not becoming and doesn't in any way enhance your Photoshopped avatar.
RAH-tarded?! More like WHATEVER [just saying it before you do]...
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aww nicrobliz i didn't mean to offend you! dont take it so personally. You should take your own advice. if you dont like the comments dont read it.
Dear People: What's offending me, as a Gem, is that WE (Geminis) have been asked a question, which WE have answered (with each one saying that she DOES NOT enjoy hurting people). People who are not Gems are then writing to say that we DO, in fact, like it. So, not only are we being accused of being mean, but also of being liars. Exactly why am I not allowed to feel put off by being called a mean person and a liar? You contradict someone, call her a liar, hide behind being "entitled to your opinion", and then say we're not allowed to be upset? When did it stop being rude to butt in on a conversation when you were not addressed and, basically, call people "jerks"? Unless you're a Gem, you don't know how it feels to BE a Gem, so kindly stop pretending that you're an expert. Just because you don't personally jive with us, or understand us, doesn't make us cruel or dishonest.
Nicrobliz, I can't help pointing out the irony in that you seem to be enjoying trying to hurt Candi. Although I don't understand your choosing to attack her looks, because she's quite a beautiful girl.
EXACTLY. point proven. this thread is absurd. the question of this thread is not a question. its a judgmental statement.
haha eh. no offense taken...but thank you for pointing it out.
here is a list of fallacies nicrobliz has committed>
argument by selective observation
hasty generalization
personal attack-
red herring
two wrongs make a right
all to make their argument seem stronger. how ironic. not sure how i belittled her relationships with other men. i mean i guess that is another fallacy her own projection and perception of herself as if its what im expressing. i think shes also trying to say that shes an expert on gemini men because she has had so many experiences and they shouldn't be belittled by my immaturity. not sure how that came to be either.
Argument By Dismissal:
an idea is rejected without saying why.
Dismissals usually have overtones. For example, "If you don't like it, leave the country" implies that your cause is hopeless, or that you are unpatriotic, or that your ideas are foreign, or maybe all three. "If you don't like it, live in a Communist country" adds an emotive element. "if you don't like then dont read it"
thats a good one too.
im not saying im perfect. but dont think i needed to be attacked for presenting my sarcasm and intelligence in a different form. a gemini like any other human doesn't enjoy hurting folks. i mean besides all the weird clincially insane and psychological damaged folks like pedophiles, killers, murders, the ones you see on criminal investigation shows...they have no sympathy and do enjoy hurting. they get pleasure from it. It is quite comical to see the correlation between gems and those type of folks. lacking compassion and empathy. not sure how nicrobliz felt so offended by my comment. in any case, if i must explain and give a better contribution.
i couldn't agree more with the gems and nicrobliz as well. Both parties have stated interesting observations and both parites have stated their opinions in truth. Now the next step to me isn't the fact either this or that. its The thread itself as a whole has become a huge illogical, judgmental, attack on gems. when all i see is fallacies and irrational statements. so sorry i pointed it out in such concise language.
Posted by virgodog58
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As a Virgo I admit that I tend to have a rather negative image of Geminis as people who like to hurt other people (I mean on an emotional level mainly, although as many of you may know The Marquis de Sade was indeed a Gemini!) So, do you positively enjoy upsetting people (perhaps as a form of entertainment), do you just not care as long as you are getting what you want, or do you think that I am being completely unfair to Geminis here?