
virgal_perfectionist
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Posted by MyStarsShine
I'm sorry you are going through this...I've never been the other woman and can't imagine how that'd feel
He may always feel torn between you and his family.....are you able to sacrifice being his main choice?

Posted by LadyNeptune
If I’m you op I am doing the following ASAP:
1. Getting a full std/hiv testing done (presuming your relationship was physical). He was fucking his live in gf raw, hence pregnant, and probably has continued to fuck her raw cause shit, she’s already pregnant.
2. Doing a deep dive on her sm to find more information on the status of their relationship. Yes sm is performative, however there should be a reduction in pics/posts of them together during the time he “broke up with her”, no?
If her sm is private make an alternate account, add some of her friends over the next few days, then add her. Chances are she’ll see you have friends in common and add you as well.
3. Ask him to give you some proof of their supposed break up. If things are as bad between them as he claims surely there is texts between them that back this up. Get the receipts.
Even better, ask him to call her on speaker and talk with her about the breakup. See if she will confirm it.
Ok I lied. I’d only do #1. Then I’d go cold on his ass. It’s what I do best. Your dead to me if you lied and hid another relationship from the jump. Our entire ‘relationship’ has been built on deception. There isn’t anything there to salvage.
Plenty of other dic k in the sea

Posted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by saggurl88Posted by LadyNeptune
Stop seeing him until he no longer lives with her. Ask to talk with her to confirm his story that they are broken up.
I wish my ex’s girlfriend would call me to confirm some shit he is telling her. Lol. I’d cuss both their asses out.
If she can’t trust him, she shouldn’t be with him, period.
She doesn’t realise that everything felt magical and romantic because she was the escape from his day to day. It will be different if she lives with him and he’s away with his kids on weekends, plus the next mistress he has lined up.click to expand

Posted by MikeNYNYCPosted by virgal_perfectionist
I met this Leo man back in Nov 2020 & we hit it off pretty fast. I don't tend to like anyone - especially so fast (I'm nit-picky) but with him it's so easy. Our chemistry is insane. Its almost scary. I haven't dated anyone seriously in 4.5 years but I started to see myself with this man. He's 8 years older, has a great career and an amazing father to his son. Our dates are always so thoughtful and romantic. He pays attention to me and listens to my likes and dislikes. When we kiss I get butterflies like I'm in high school all over again. When we're apart we miss each other like crazy. We text throughout the day, he has sent me my favorite food & flowers to my job on a few occasions. We recently spent a weekend together out of town and had an amazing weekend. I started to question myself "If I was falling for him." This past weekend he had too much to drink and told me he loved me (which is the second time he has told me)...
The twist...
I started to notice he never invited me to his place. We spend a lot of our time out on dates or my place. I brought this to his attention he played it off but then told me he had something to tell me & will tell me in due time. With me being the over-thinker that I am - I went through his social media page and found his child's mother page. On her page was a picture of their son holding a sign reading "big brother coming soon April 2021." My heart sank to my stomach. I remember not sleeping that night. The next morning I screen shot the picture and sent it to him asking his involvement. He text me this long paragraph telling me that he is the father and that they live together. He also told me that they broke up last year and he was in the process of moving out but they found out she was pregnant and he decided to stay. He promised me that he would move out by May/June this year because their situation is becoming worse. He explains that it's the reason he never home (which he isn't - he spends so much time with me that I didn't see this coming).
I know I should run and cut him off - which I did for a couple of weeks but he has been promising me he's leaving and I somewhat believe him but then again I don't. I've never saw myself in this situation and I don't know what to do. Apart of me wants to stay to see if he will really leave and pursue something me. But the other part of me is screaming WTF are you doing - if he's creeping around on his pregnant gf - or whatever she is to him - he will do the same to me eventually.
I'm so stuck & I know this is crazy but I need some advice 😢
Him:
Sun - Leo
Moon - Gemini
Mecr - Leo
Venus - Cancer
Me:
Sun - Virgo
Moon - Cancer
Mecr - Virgo
Venus - Virgo
Give the full birthdates; years also.click to expand

Posted by cake
I met this Leo man back in Nov 2020 & we hit it off pretty fast. I don't tend to like anyone - especially so fast (I'm nit-picky) but with him it's so easy. Our chemistry is insane. Its almost scary.
-Pandemic will hit all kinds of chemistry.
I haven't dated anyone seriously in 4.5 years but I started to see myself with this man. He's 8 years older, has a great career and an amazing father to his son. Our dates are always so thoughtful and romantic. He pays attention to me and listens to my likes and dislikes. When we kiss I get butterflies like I'm in high school all over again. When we're apart we miss each other like crazy. We text throughout the day, he has sent me my favorite food & flowers to my job on a few occasions.
-When you're hiding something (him) there's an extra thrill that comes with it. It might be passion but it's a different type of passion you're thinking.
We recently spent a weekend together out of town and had an amazing weekend. I started to question myself "If I was falling for him." This past weekend he had too much to drink and told me he loved me (which is the second time he has told me)...
-Words have to match actions. Mouth can run faster than your feet.
I started to notice he never invited me to his place. We spend a lot of our time out on dates or my place. I brought this to his attention he played it off but then told me he had something to tell me & will tell me in due time. With me being the over-thinker that I am - I went through his social media page and found his child's mother page.
-It's not you overthinking (this sounds like self-doubt or minimizing your own feelings), it's your instinct.
On her page was a picture of their son holding a sign reading "big brother coming soon April 2021." My heart sank to my stomach. I remember not sleeping that night.
-If she's posting this on social media, he's not leaving that easily. Where did the second unborn child come from?
-What I'm saying: There must be times that they do get along.
The next morning I screen shot the picture and sent it to him asking his involvement. He text me this long paragraph telling me that he is the father and that they live together. He also told me that they broke up last year and he was in the process of moving out but they found out she was pregnant and he decided to stay.
-There are three sides to every story: his version, her version and the facts.
-The facts are: they get into fights (the most stressful time for everyone), they're having a second child, you don't know what they actually fight about, you don't know how their actually relationship is and how they deal with it.
He promised me that he would move out by May/June this year because their situation is becoming worse. He explains that it's the reason he never home (which he isn't - he spends so much time with me that I didn't see this coming).
-So this man who has a SECOND child coming, isn't trying to work things out with the baby mother? He's just going to throw in the towel. He's not going to seek out all options on how to mend their relationship. Instead, he impregnates her and moves on to the next one.
-The lack of accountability and integrity for his own actions tells you something else.
I know I should run and cut him off - which I did for a couple of weeks but he has been promising me he's leaving and I somewhat believe him but then again I don't. I've never saw myself in this situation and I don't know what to do. Apart of me wants to stay to see if he will really leave and pursue something me. But the other part of me is screaming WTF are you doing - if he's creeping around on his pregnant gf - or whatever she is to him - he will do the same to me eventually.
I'm so stuck & I know this is crazy but I need some advice 😢
-Fact: He's in a problematic situation rn. He needs clarity and time to sort out the situation AND manage his feelings ON HIS OWN. You're a safety net and I bet if you get into a fight he'll find another safety net (see behavioral pattern).
Him:
Sun - Leo
Moon - Gemini
Mecr - Leo
Venus - Cancer
Me:
Sun - Virgo
Moon - Cancer
Mecr - Virgo
Venus - Virgo
-Immature venus in water can be manipulative, especially in men.
-Immature sun in leo will play out everything is great, 0 accountability for their own actions and lie about any involvement that caused any failure.
-Let the dust settle after this pandemic, let him manage his own feelings and sort things out with his family and then see if he'll take interest in you.
-Never doubt your instinct, the one that gives you that kick to your stomach.

Posted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by MyStarsShine
I'm sorry you are going through this...I've never been the other woman and can't imagine how that'd feel
He may always feel torn between you and his family.....are you able to sacrifice being his main choice?
No I think at this point, I need to let go. He has a mess he needs to fix on his own. I can't stick around and wait on that.click to expand

Posted by cakePosted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by cake
I met this Leo man back in Nov 2020 & we hit it off pretty fast. I don't tend to like anyone - especially so fast (I'm nit-picky) but with him it's so easy. Our chemistry is insane. Its almost scary.
-Pandemic will hit all kinds of chemistry.
I haven't dated anyone seriously in 4.5 years but I started to see myself with this man. He's 8 years older, has a great career and an amazing father to his son. Our dates are always so thoughtful and romantic. He pays attention to me and listens to my likes and dislikes. When we kiss I get butterflies like I'm in high school all over again. When we're apart we miss each other like crazy. We text throughout the day, he has sent me my favorite food & flowers to my job on a few occasions.
-When you're hiding something (him) there's an extra thrill that comes with it. It might be passion but it's a different type of passion you're thinking.
We recently spent a weekend together out of town and had an amazing weekend. I started to question myself "If I was falling for him." This past weekend he had too much to drink and told me he loved me (which is the second time he has told me)...
-Words have to match actions. Mouth can run faster than your feet.
I started to notice he never invited me to his place. We spend a lot of our time out on dates or my place. I brought this to his attention he played it off but then told me he had something to tell me & will tell me in due time. With me being the over-thinker that I am - I went through his social media page and found his child's mother page.
-It's not you overthinking (this sounds like self-doubt or minimizing your own feelings), it's your instinct.
On her page was a picture of their son holding a sign reading "big brother coming soon April 2021." My heart sank to my stomach. I remember not sleeping that night.
-If she's posting this on social media, he's not leaving that easily. Where did the second unborn child come from?
-What I'm saying: There must be times that they do get along.
The next morning I screen shot the picture and sent it to him asking his involvement. He text me this long paragraph telling me that he is the father and that they live together. He also told me that they broke up last year and he was in the process of moving out but they found out she was pregnant and he decided to stay.
-There are three sides to every story: his version, her version and the facts.
-The facts are: they get into fights (the most stressful time for everyone), they're having a second child, you don't know what they actually fight about, you don't know how their actually relationship is and how they deal with it.
He promised me that he would move out by May/June this year because their situation is becoming worse. He explains that it's the reason he never home (which he isn't - he spends so much time with me that I didn't see this coming).
-So this man who has a SECOND child coming, isn't trying to work things out with the baby mother? He's just going to throw in the towel. He's not going to seek out all options on how to mend their relationship. Instead, he impregnates her and moves on to the next one.
-The lack of accountability and integrity for his own actions tells you something else.
I know I should run and cut him off - which I did for a couple of weeks but he has been promising me he's leaving and I somewhat believe him but then again I don't. I've never saw myself in this situation and I don't know what to do. Apart of me wants to stay to see if he will really leave and pursue something me. But the other part of me is screaming WTF are you doing - if he's creeping around on his pregnant gf - or whatever she is to him - he will do the same to me eventually.
I'm so stuck & I know this is crazy but I need some advice 😢
-Fact: He's in a problematic situation rn. He needs clarity and time to sort out the situation AND manage his feelings ON HIS OWN. You're a safety net and I bet if you get into a fight he'll find another safety net (see behavioral pattern).
Him:
Sun - Leo
Moon - Gemini
Mecr - Leo
Venus - Cancer
Me:
Sun - Virgo
Moon - Cancer
Mecr - Virgo
Venus - Virgo
-Immature venus in water can be manipulative, especially in men.
-Immature sun in leo will play out everything is great, 0 accountability for their own actions and lie about any involvement that caused any failure.
-Let the dust settle after this pandemic, let him manage his own feelings and sort things out with his family and then see if he'll take interest in you.
-Never doubt your instinct, the one that gives you that kick to your stomach.
-Immature sun in leo will play out everything is great, 0 accountability for their own actions and lie about any involvement that caused any failure.
I so agree with this. I've started to notice that he doesn't take full accountability for his actions. He will admit his wrongs but there is always some excuse he has with it. His pride is out of this world which is something he needs to work on.
With his immature cancer venus, if he finds you disagreeing with him, he will shut down and that's on him.
He has to fix his problems with his current wife who's currently pregnant, who he hasn't left yet, before he jumps ship and start to make promises with someone else.
He has to sort out his situation, reflect and digest it. He has to go through it without using you anyone as a safety net. He has to give himself the opportunity to learn and grow.
Your instinct told you something for a good reason and you found your answer. Your self is trying to save you from a potential self-chaos. You have your clarity, he doesn't.click to expand

Posted by Undine
So....what excuse did you get for not being invited to his place?
Or for not being able to chat with him late at night?
Or for never meeting anyone relevant to him?
Or for rushing home after sex?
Or for avoiding to spend the night with you? Was your bed to hard for him, yeah.....? 😉
You are so full of bullshit, my dear! You don't fooll anyone. Learn your fucking lessons and never try to steal the man from another woman ever again!
*on behalf oh the soon to be born child, from the daughter of a man who used to have side pieces of shit like you*

Posted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by LadyNeptune
If I’m you op I am doing the following ASAP:
1. Getting a full std/hiv testing done (presuming your relationship was physical). He was fucking his live in gf raw, hence pregnant, and probably has continued to fuck her raw cause shit, she’s already pregnant.
2. Doing a deep dive on her sm to find more information on the status of their relationship. Yes sm is performative, however there should be a reduction in pics/posts of them together during the time he “broke up with her”, no?
If her sm is private make an alternate account, add some of her friends over the next few days, then add her. Chances are she’ll see you have friends in common and add you as well.
3. Ask him to give you some proof of their supposed break up. If things are as bad between them as he claims surely there is texts between them that back this up. Get the receipts.
Even better, ask him to call her on speaker and talk with her about the breakup. See if she will confirm it.
Ok I lied. I’d only do #1. Then I’d go cold on his ass. It’s what I do best. Your dead to me if you lied and hid another relationship from the jump. Our entire ‘relationship’ has been built on deception. There isn’t anything there to salvage.
Plenty of other dic k in the sea
Yes I agree with you on doing #1 we were sexual orally but that's it. I did dig through her sm and the last picture she post of them two was Jan 2020 on a ski trip in CO. She is no where to be found on his sm and they don't follow each other.click to expand

Posted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by Undine
So....what excuse did you get for not being invited to his place?
Or for not being able to chat with him late at night?
Or for never meeting anyone relevant to him?
Or for rushing home after sex?
Or for avoiding to spend the night with you? Was your bed to hard for him, yeah.....? 😉
You are so full of bullshit, my dear! You don't fooll anyone. Learn your fucking lessons and never try to steal the man from another woman ever again!
*on behalf oh the soon to be born child, from the daughter of a man who used to have side pieces of shit like you*
There was a reason I skipped over your response but since you have questions I'll gladly answer...So....what excuse did you get for not being invited to his place?
I asked for the first time after a few months. I never thought much into it at the time because we spend so much time out doing whatever or at my place since I live in the city and he lives 45min outside the city. Anyways when I asked it was a deflection to us going out to dinner instead. I asked again at dinner and he was uncomfortable and told me we will talk later which caused me to go through his smOr for not being able to chat with him late at night?
The crazy thing is that I do hear from him all times of the day including night. He spends the nights with me. Granted he's not the only person I'm dating so when were apart I'm usually tired from work or hanging out with other people I'm dating as well. Or for never meeting anyone relevant to him?
I've met both brothers, a cousin and a few close friends. Most of family is from out of town and I didn't expect to meet them this soon anyways. I even met his son twice. Or for rushing home after sex?
Already answered that...Or for avoiding to spend the night with you? Was your bed to hard for him, yeah.....? 😉 ...answered this as well
take care.click to expand
Posted by SoulPosted by HamstheticsPosted by SoulPosted by HamstheticsPosted by SoulPosted by Hamsthetics
I want to be a leo man so bad ughhh 😔
I were a genie I would make you me so you choked on that statement.
Why so? I don't think there is a downfall of being a leo.
All I can say is I'm highly recommended in my career and people love my skill. I constantly get compliments and people that love my end results. I'm always so polite and quiet while working. Also fast at getting done. My prices are fair also. I'm always respectful and putting myself last and the customer first. The nicest guy you'd ever meet. If only you could see the horror and torture I put my body and mind though behind the scenes you'd think differently though. Pretending to be happy is the easy part. Not succumbing to the internal turmoil is another.
Leo men are just dramatic. It means nothing. Just let them vent for a bit and it will be fine. It truly means nothing.
Maybe because it's not natural for a king like a leo to serve others? 😉
Every man has role in this world i believe, if a leo role is to be a bully jocks who steals Virgals from her boring Capricorn boyfriend, then let it be. Embrace it.
All Leo men have stole women from other men. It's in our nature to get what we want. It has to be consensual and mutual though, just speaking for myself. They have to be 100% down with that type of life changing event.
There is still longterm karma for those type of actions though. Well deserved too as a Scorpio would say.click to expand

Posted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by LadyNeptune
Here’s the thing, him telling you they are broken up could very well be and most certainly is a lie. He tells her he is working late at the office to make more $ $ $ for their babies future. That’s how he explains away the time he gives to you.
Also look at the timing. He met you and started dating you in November 2020. Their baby is coming in April. Takes 9months to grow a baby meaning they were fucking in August of last year just months before he met and pursued a relationship with you. So when exactly did he break up with her?
Because most women don’t realize they are pregnant until 1.5months after conception. Putting her realization that she’s pregnant by mid to late September of 2020.
He said he decided to stay and work things out once she discovered she was pregnant, right?
So if that’s the truth why did less than 2 months later after learning she’s pregnant and “getting back together” did he pursue a romantic relationship with another woman (you).
You also say that he is a good father and that’s one of his qualities you find attractive. Do you really think being a good father means stepping out on the mother of your children? You think the example he is setting in his mistreatment of his children’s mother makes him a good father?
Look I get it. We’ve all been there, being made the side chick without our knowledge. Those that claim they haven’t just never found out about it.
Thing is, up to this point you were an unknowing victim. The ability to make a choice was taken from you since he made the conscious choice to lie to you and withhold this information.
But now that you know the truth, your actions from this point on are yours solely to own. If you choose to continue to be with him you are choosing to be the side chick. You are choosing to be the other woman.
If you truly can’t let him go then set your boundaries and let him prove that his stories are based in truths and not lies.
Stop seeing him until he no longer lives with her. Ask to talk with her to confirm his story that they are broken up.
His excuse that he fears his son being taken from him is just that, an excuse. As a lawyer he knows full well and better than most... the legal avenues available to exert his rights as a parent.
Whew! This was a read. You always come through!
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July. The week of his birthday (end of July) they got into a bad argument about their son walking in on him using the restroom and their son pulled out his private part and imitated what he saw his dad doing. His child's mother walked past the restroom and thought it was unacceptable and started to curse at him in front of their son. He said the argument was so bad he had left the house and stayed with his brother for a week. He told me that argument was the final straw and he came back home to call it off & was going to move in with his brother & that's when she told him that she missed her period. But yes still the timing is a little eerie...
All of this is still crazy to me and I can't put myself in this 'side chick' position. It's unfortunate but it could have been worse. It's up to me what to do from here and the smartest thing to do is to let go. It was fun while it lasted but now it's hard for me to trust what's next. It's like I see the good side of him but I also get a peek into the bad side of him from how he's treating his pregnant BM - and I will be a fool to believe that he wouldn't do the same to me.
Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I went through his social media page and found his child's mother page. On her page was a picture of their son holding a sign reading "big brother coming soon April 2021."
Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July.click to expand


Posted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by Undine
So....what excuse did you get for not being invited to his place?
Or for not being able to chat with him late at night?
Or for never meeting anyone relevant to him?
Or for rushing home after sex?
Or for avoiding to spend the night with you? Was your bed to hard for him, yeah.....? 😉
You are so full of bullshit, my dear! You don't fooll anyone. Learn your fucking lessons and never try to steal the man from another woman ever again!
*on behalf oh the soon to be born child, from the daughter of a man who used to have side pieces of shit like you*
There was a reason I skipped over your response but since you have questions I'll gladly answer...So....what excuse did you get for not being invited to his place?
I asked for the first time after a few months. I never thought much into it at the time because we spend so much time out doing whatever or at my place since I live in the city and he lives 45min outside the city. Anyways when I asked it was a deflection to us going out to dinner instead. I asked again at dinner and he was uncomfortable and told me we will talk later which caused me to go through his smOr for not being able to chat with him late at night?
The crazy thing is that I do hear from him all times of the day including night. He spends the nights with me. Granted he's not the only person I'm dating so when were apart I'm usually tired from work or hanging out with other people I'm dating as well. Or for never meeting anyone relevant to him?
I've met both brothers, a cousin and a few close friends. Most of family is from out of town and I didn't expect to meet them this soon anyways. I even met his son twice. Or for rushing home after sex?
Already answered that...Or for avoiding to spend the night with you? Was your bed to hard for him, yeah.....? 😉 ...answered this as well
take care.click to expand




Posted by MyStarsShine
If the baby was conceived during the first week in July, the due date would be around the first week in April
I conceived on 14 February and gave birth on 15 November
Try find out when the due date is (sorry if you've already mentioned this, Virgo)
Posted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by MyStarsShine
If the baby was conceived during the first week in July, the due date would be around the first week in April
I conceived on 14 February and gave birth on 15 November
Try find out when the due date is (sorry if you've already mentioned this, Virgo)
I don’t know the exact date all I know is early Aprilclick to expand
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by LadyNeptune
Here’s the thing, him telling you they are broken up could very well be and most certainly is a lie. He tells her he is working late at the office to make more $ $ $ for their babies future. That’s how he explains away the time he gives to you.
Also look at the timing. He met you and started dating you in November 2020. Their baby is coming in April. Takes 9months to grow a baby meaning they were fucking in August of last year just months before he met and pursued a relationship with you. So when exactly did he break up with her?
Because most women don’t realize they are pregnant until 1.5months after conception. Putting her realization that she’s pregnant by mid to late September of 2020.
He said he decided to stay and work things out once she discovered she was pregnant, right?
So if that’s the truth why did less than 2 months later after learning she’s pregnant and “getting back together” did he pursue a romantic relationship with another woman (you).
You also say that he is a good father and that’s one of his qualities you find attractive. Do you really think being a good father means stepping out on the mother of your children? You think the example he is setting in his mistreatment of his children’s mother makes him a good father?
Look I get it. We’ve all been there, being made the side chick without our knowledge. Those that claim they haven’t just never found out about it.
Thing is, up to this point you were an unknowing victim. The ability to make a choice was taken from you since he made the conscious choice to lie to you and withhold this information.
But now that you know the truth, your actions from this point on are yours solely to own. If you choose to continue to be with him you are choosing to be the side chick. You are choosing to be the other woman.
If you truly can’t let him go then set your boundaries and let him prove that his stories are based in truths and not lies.
Stop seeing him until he no longer lives with her. Ask to talk with her to confirm his story that they are broken up.
His excuse that he fears his son being taken from him is just that, an excuse. As a lawyer he knows full well and better than most... the legal avenues available to exert his rights as a parent.
Whew! This was a read. You always come through!
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July. The week of his birthday (end of July) they got into a bad argument about their son walking in on him using the restroom and their son pulled out his private part and imitated what he saw his dad doing. His child's mother walked past the restroom and thought it was unacceptable and started to curse at him in front of their son. He said the argument was so bad he had left the house and stayed with his brother for a week. He told me that argument was the final straw and he came back home to call it off & was going to move in with his brother & that's when she told him that she missed her period. But yes still the timing is a little eerie...
All of this is still crazy to me and I can't put myself in this 'side chick' position. It's unfortunate but it could have been worse. It's up to me what to do from here and the smartest thing to do is to let go. It was fun while it lasted but now it's hard for me to trust what's next. It's like I see the good side of him but I also get a peek into the bad side of him from how he's treating his pregnant BM - and I will be a fool to believe that he wouldn't do the same to me.
You need to think again about the timing tho cause either he has lied so much he can't keep his own story straight, or he thinks your too dumb to comprehend dates. Super insulting either way...Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I went through his social media page and found his child's mother page. On her page was a picture of their son holding a sign reading "big brother coming soon April 2021."Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July.
This is a lie. They had sex in August in order to have a delivery date in April.
So no, the last time they had sex was not in early July. He was fucking her in August a month later. And probably still has an active sex life with her to this very day.
He's a liar. Both passively by withholding information of his current relationship from you. And actively by continuing to lie and downplay his involvement in order to have his cake and eat it too.
I wouldn't believe a single word out of his mouth. Even the 'argument' he invented sounds weak and unconvincing af.click to expand

Posted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by LadyNeptune
Here’s the thing, him telling you they are broken up could very well be and most certainly is a lie. He tells her he is working late at the office to make more $ $ $ for their babies future. That’s how he explains away the time he gives to you.
Also look at the timing. He met you and started dating you in November 2020. Their baby is coming in April. Takes 9months to grow a baby meaning they were fucking in August of last year just months before he met and pursued a relationship with you. So when exactly did he break up with her?
Because most women don’t realize they are pregnant until 1.5months after conception. Putting her realization that she’s pregnant by mid to late September of 2020.
He said he decided to stay and work things out once she discovered she was pregnant, right?
So if that’s the truth why did less than 2 months later after learning she’s pregnant and “getting back together” did he pursue a romantic relationship with another woman (you).
You also say that he is a good father and that’s one of his qualities you find attractive. Do you really think being a good father means stepping out on the mother of your children? You think the example he is setting in his mistreatment of his children’s mother makes him a good father?
Look I get it. We’ve all been there, being made the side chick without our knowledge. Those that claim they haven’t just never found out about it.
Thing is, up to this point you were an unknowing victim. The ability to make a choice was taken from you since he made the conscious choice to lie to you and withhold this information.
But now that you know the truth, your actions from this point on are yours solely to own. If you choose to continue to be with him you are choosing to be the side chick. You are choosing to be the other woman.
If you truly can’t let him go then set your boundaries and let him prove that his stories are based in truths and not lies.
Stop seeing him until he no longer lives with her. Ask to talk with her to confirm his story that they are broken up.
His excuse that he fears his son being taken from him is just that, an excuse. As a lawyer he knows full well and better than most... the legal avenues available to exert his rights as a parent.
Whew! This was a read. You always come through!
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July. The week of his birthday (end of July) they got into a bad argument about their son walking in on him using the restroom and their son pulled out his private part and imitated what he saw his dad doing. His child's mother walked past the restroom and thought it was unacceptable and started to curse at him in front of their son. He said the argument was so bad he had left the house and stayed with his brother for a week. He told me that argument was the final straw and he came back home to call it off & was going to move in with his brother & that's when she told him that she missed her period. But yes still the timing is a little eerie...
All of this is still crazy to me and I can't put myself in this 'side chick' position. It's unfortunate but it could have been worse. It's up to me what to do from here and the smartest thing to do is to let go. It was fun while it lasted but now it's hard for me to trust what's next. It's like I see the good side of him but I also get a peek into the bad side of him from how he's treating his pregnant BM - and I will be a fool to believe that he wouldn't do the same to me.
You need to think again about the timing tho cause either he has lied so much he can't keep his own story straight, or he thinks your too dumb to comprehend dates. Super insulting either way...Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I went through his social media page and found his child's mother page. On her page was a picture of their son holding a sign reading "big brother coming soon April 2021."Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July.
This is a lie. They had sex in August in order to have a delivery date in April.
So no, the last time they had sex was not in early July. He was fucking her in August a month later. And probably still has an active sex life with her to this very day.
He's a liar. Both passively by withholding information of his current relationship from you. And actively by continuing to lie and downplay his involvement in order to have his cake and eat it too.
I wouldn't believe a single word out of his mouth. Even the 'argument' he invented sounds weak and unconvincing af.
Naw mid July for conception of due in early April.
July 10-25th for intercourses if she specifically April 10th.click to expand

Posted by KrabssPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by LadyNeptune
Here’s the thing, him telling you they are broken up could very well be and most certainly is a lie. He tells her he is working late at the office to make more $ $ $ for their babies future. That’s how he explains away the time he gives to you.
Also look at the timing. He met you and started dating you in November 2020. Their baby is coming in April. Takes 9months to grow a baby meaning they were fucking in August of last year just months before he met and pursued a relationship with you. So when exactly did he break up with her?
Because most women don’t realize they are pregnant until 1.5months after conception. Putting her realization that she’s pregnant by mid to late September of 2020.
He said he decided to stay and work things out once she discovered she was pregnant, right?
So if that’s the truth why did less than 2 months later after learning she’s pregnant and “getting back together” did he pursue a romantic relationship with another woman (you).
You also say that he is a good father and that’s one of his qualities you find attractive. Do you really think being a good father means stepping out on the mother of your children? You think the example he is setting in his mistreatment of his children’s mother makes him a good father?
Look I get it. We’ve all been there, being made the side chick without our knowledge. Those that claim they haven’t just never found out about it.
Thing is, up to this point you were an unknowing victim. The ability to make a choice was taken from you since he made the conscious choice to lie to you and withhold this information.
But now that you know the truth, your actions from this point on are yours solely to own. If you choose to continue to be with him you are choosing to be the side chick. You are choosing to be the other woman.
If you truly can’t let him go then set your boundaries and let him prove that his stories are based in truths and not lies.
Stop seeing him until he no longer lives with her. Ask to talk with her to confirm his story that they are broken up.
His excuse that he fears his son being taken from him is just that, an excuse. As a lawyer he knows full well and better than most... the legal avenues available to exert his rights as a parent.
Whew! This was a read. You always come through!
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July. The week of his birthday (end of July) they got into a bad argument about their son walking in on him using the restroom and their son pulled out his private part and imitated what he saw his dad doing. His child's mother walked past the restroom and thought it was unacceptable and started to curse at him in front of their son. He said the argument was so bad he had left the house and stayed with his brother for a week. He told me that argument was the final straw and he came back home to call it off & was going to move in with his brother & that's when she told him that she missed her period. But yes still the timing is a little eerie...
All of this is still crazy to me and I can't put myself in this 'side chick' position. It's unfortunate but it could have been worse. It's up to me what to do from here and the smartest thing to do is to let go. It was fun while it lasted but now it's hard for me to trust what's next. It's like I see the good side of him but I also get a peek into the bad side of him from how he's treating his pregnant BM - and I will be a fool to believe that he wouldn't do the same to me.
You need to think again about the timing tho cause either he has lied so much he can't keep his own story straight, or he thinks your too dumb to comprehend dates. Super insulting either way...Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I went through his social media page and found his child's mother page. On her page was a picture of their son holding a sign reading "big brother coming soon April 2021."Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July.
This is a lie. They had sex in August in order to have a delivery date in April.
So no, the last time they had sex was not in early July. He was fucking her in August a month later. And probably still has an active sex life with her to this very day.
He's a liar. Both passively by withholding information of his current relationship from you. And actively by continuing to lie and downplay his involvement in order to have his cake and eat it too.
I wouldn't believe a single word out of his mouth. Even the 'argument' he invented sounds weak and unconvincing af.
Naw mid July for conception of due in early April.
July 10-25th for intercourses if she specifically April 10th.
Plot twist its not his baby. He's not the only one stepping out on the relationship.
jerry, jerry gif.click to expand



Posted by saggurl88
When he can't trust you anymore![]()
https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9136712704/hA321D901/funny-meme-about-someone-cheating-on-girlfriend-or-wife
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by LadyNeptune
Here’s the thing, him telling you they are broken up could very well be and most certainly is a lie. He tells her he is working late at the office to make more $ $ $ for their babies future. That’s how he explains away the time he gives to you.
Also look at the timing. He met you and started dating you in November 2020. Their baby is coming in April. Takes 9months to grow a baby meaning they were fucking in August of last year just months before he met and pursued a relationship with you. So when exactly did he break up with her?
Because most women don’t realize they are pregnant until 1.5months after conception. Putting her realization that she’s pregnant by mid to late September of 2020.
He said he decided to stay and work things out once she discovered she was pregnant, right?
So if that’s the truth why did less than 2 months later after learning she’s pregnant and “getting back together” did he pursue a romantic relationship with another woman (you).
You also say that he is a good father and that’s one of his qualities you find attractive. Do you really think being a good father means stepping out on the mother of your children? You think the example he is setting in his mistreatment of his children’s mother makes him a good father?
Look I get it. We’ve all been there, being made the side chick without our knowledge. Those that claim they haven’t just never found out about it.
Thing is, up to this point you were an unknowing victim. The ability to make a choice was taken from you since he made the conscious choice to lie to you and withhold this information.
But now that you know the truth, your actions from this point on are yours solely to own. If you choose to continue to be with him you are choosing to be the side chick. You are choosing to be the other woman.
If you truly can’t let him go then set your boundaries and let him prove that his stories are based in truths and not lies.
Stop seeing him until he no longer lives with her. Ask to talk with her to confirm his story that they are broken up.
His excuse that he fears his son being taken from him is just that, an excuse. As a lawyer he knows full well and better than most... the legal avenues available to exert his rights as a parent.
Whew! This was a read. You always come through!
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July. The week of his birthday (end of July) they got into a bad argument about their son walking in on him using the restroom and their son pulled out his private part and imitated what he saw his dad doing. His child's mother walked past the restroom and thought it was unacceptable and started to curse at him in front of their son. He said the argument was so bad he had left the house and stayed with his brother for a week. He told me that argument was the final straw and he came back home to call it off & was going to move in with his brother & that's when she told him that she missed her period. But yes still the timing is a little eerie...
All of this is still crazy to me and I can't put myself in this 'side chick' position. It's unfortunate but it could have been worse. It's up to me what to do from here and the smartest thing to do is to let go. It was fun while it lasted but now it's hard for me to trust what's next. It's like I see the good side of him but I also get a peek into the bad side of him from how he's treating his pregnant BM - and I will be a fool to believe that he wouldn't do the same to me.
You need to think again about the timing tho cause either he has lied so much he can't keep his own story straight, or he thinks your too dumb to comprehend dates. Super insulting either way...Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I went through his social media page and found his child's mother page. On her page was a picture of their son holding a sign reading "big brother coming soon April 2021."Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July.
This is a lie. They had sex in August in order to have a delivery date in April.
So no, the last time they had sex was not in early July. He was fucking her in August a month later. And probably still has an active sex life with her to this very day.
He's a liar. Both passively by withholding information of his current relationship from you. And actively by continuing to lie and downplay his involvement in order to have his cake and eat it too.
I wouldn't believe a single word out of his mouth. Even the 'argument' he invented sounds weak and unconvincing af.
Naw mid July for conception of due in early April.
July 10-25th for intercourses if she specifically April 10th.
Plot twist its not his baby. He's not the only one stepping out on the relationship.click to expand

Posted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by LadyNeptune
Here’s the thing, him telling you they are broken up could very well be and most certainly is a lie. He tells her he is working late at the office to make more $ $ $ for their babies future. That’s how he explains away the time he gives to you.
Also look at the timing. He met you and started dating you in November 2020. Their baby is coming in April. Takes 9months to grow a baby meaning they were fucking in August of last year just months before he met and pursued a relationship with you. So when exactly did he break up with her?
Because most women don’t realize they are pregnant until 1.5months after conception. Putting her realization that she’s pregnant by mid to late September of 2020.
He said he decided to stay and work things out once she discovered she was pregnant, right?
So if that’s the truth why did less than 2 months later after learning she’s pregnant and “getting back together” did he pursue a romantic relationship with another woman (you).
You also say that he is a good father and that’s one of his qualities you find attractive. Do you really think being a good father means stepping out on the mother of your children? You think the example he is setting in his mistreatment of his children’s mother makes him a good father?
Look I get it. We’ve all been there, being made the side chick without our knowledge. Those that claim they haven’t just never found out about it.
Thing is, up to this point you were an unknowing victim. The ability to make a choice was taken from you since he made the conscious choice to lie to you and withhold this information.
But now that you know the truth, your actions from this point on are yours solely to own. If you choose to continue to be with him you are choosing to be the side chick. You are choosing to be the other woman.
If you truly can’t let him go then set your boundaries and let him prove that his stories are based in truths and not lies.
Stop seeing him until he no longer lives with her. Ask to talk with her to confirm his story that they are broken up.
His excuse that he fears his son being taken from him is just that, an excuse. As a lawyer he knows full well and better than most... the legal avenues available to exert his rights as a parent.
Whew! This was a read. You always come through!
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July. The week of his birthday (end of July) they got into a bad argument about their son walking in on him using the restroom and their son pulled out his private part and imitated what he saw his dad doing. His child's mother walked past the restroom and thought it was unacceptable and started to curse at him in front of their son. He said the argument was so bad he had left the house and stayed with his brother for a week. He told me that argument was the final straw and he came back home to call it off & was going to move in with his brother & that's when she told him that she missed her period. But yes still the timing is a little eerie...
All of this is still crazy to me and I can't put myself in this 'side chick' position. It's unfortunate but it could have been worse. It's up to me what to do from here and the smartest thing to do is to let go. It was fun while it lasted but now it's hard for me to trust what's next. It's like I see the good side of him but I also get a peek into the bad side of him from how he's treating his pregnant BM - and I will be a fool to believe that he wouldn't do the same to me.
You need to think again about the timing tho cause either he has lied so much he can't keep his own story straight, or he thinks your too dumb to comprehend dates. Super insulting either way...Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I went through his social media page and found his child's mother page. On her page was a picture of their son holding a sign reading "big brother coming soon April 2021."Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July.
This is a lie. They had sex in August in order to have a delivery date in April.
So no, the last time they had sex was not in early July. He was fucking her in August a month later. And probably still has an active sex life with her to this very day.
He's a liar. Both passively by withholding information of his current relationship from you. And actively by continuing to lie and downplay his involvement in order to have his cake and eat it too.
I wouldn't believe a single word out of his mouth. Even the 'argument' he invented sounds weak and unconvincing af.
Naw mid July for conception of due in early April.
July 10-25th for intercourses if she specifically April 10th.
Plot twist its not his baby. He's not the only one stepping out on the relationship.
It’s weird she’s met his son.
Maybe they’re poly.click to expand

Posted by saggurl88Posted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by LadyNeptune
Here’s the thing, him telling you they are broken up could very well be and most certainly is a lie. He tells her he is working late at the office to make more $ $ $ for their babies future. That’s how he explains away the time he gives to you.
Also look at the timing. He met you and started dating you in November 2020. Their baby is coming in April. Takes 9months to grow a baby meaning they were fucking in August of last year just months before he met and pursued a relationship with you. So when exactly did he break up with her?
Because most women don’t realize they are pregnant until 1.5months after conception. Putting her realization that she’s pregnant by mid to late September of 2020.
He said he decided to stay and work things out once she discovered she was pregnant, right?
So if that’s the truth why did less than 2 months later after learning she’s pregnant and “getting back together” did he pursue a romantic relationship with another woman (you).
You also say that he is a good father and that’s one of his qualities you find attractive. Do you really think being a good father means stepping out on the mother of your children? You think the example he is setting in his mistreatment of his children’s mother makes him a good father?
Look I get it. We’ve all been there, being made the side chick without our knowledge. Those that claim they haven’t just never found out about it.
Thing is, up to this point you were an unknowing victim. The ability to make a choice was taken from you since he made the conscious choice to lie to you and withhold this information.
But now that you know the truth, your actions from this point on are yours solely to own. If you choose to continue to be with him you are choosing to be the side chick. You are choosing to be the other woman.
If you truly can’t let him go then set your boundaries and let him prove that his stories are based in truths and not lies.
Stop seeing him until he no longer lives with her. Ask to talk with her to confirm his story that they are broken up.
His excuse that he fears his son being taken from him is just that, an excuse. As a lawyer he knows full well and better than most... the legal avenues available to exert his rights as a parent.
Whew! This was a read. You always come through!
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July. The week of his birthday (end of July) they got into a bad argument about their son walking in on him using the restroom and their son pulled out his private part and imitated what he saw his dad doing. His child's mother walked past the restroom and thought it was unacceptable and started to curse at him in front of their son. He said the argument was so bad he had left the house and stayed with his brother for a week. He told me that argument was the final straw and he came back home to call it off & was going to move in with his brother & that's when she told him that she missed her period. But yes still the timing is a little eerie...
All of this is still crazy to me and I can't put myself in this 'side chick' position. It's unfortunate but it could have been worse. It's up to me what to do from here and the smartest thing to do is to let go. It was fun while it lasted but now it's hard for me to trust what's next. It's like I see the good side of him but I also get a peek into the bad side of him from how he's treating his pregnant BM - and I will be a fool to believe that he wouldn't do the same to me.
You need to think again about the timing tho cause either he has lied so much he can't keep his own story straight, or he thinks your too dumb to comprehend dates. Super insulting either way...Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I went through his social media page and found his child's mother page. On her page was a picture of their son holding a sign reading "big brother coming soon April 2021."Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July.
This is a lie. They had sex in August in order to have a delivery date in April.
So no, the last time they had sex was not in early July. He was fucking her in August a month later. And probably still has an active sex life with her to this very day.
He's a liar. Both passively by withholding information of his current relationship from you. And actively by continuing to lie and downplay his involvement in order to have his cake and eat it too.
I wouldn't believe a single word out of his mouth. Even the 'argument' he invented sounds weak and unconvincing af.
Naw mid July for conception of due in early April.
July 10-25th for intercourses if she specifically April 10th.
Plot twist its not his baby. He's not the only one stepping out on the relationship.
It’s weird she’s met his son.
Maybe they’re poly.
It depends on how old the kid is. If the kid can’t talk it would be easy to introduce him to anyone. It would be significant to the side piece but not necessarily to the guy cheating. The baby isn’t gonna say anything to their mom anywaysclick to expand
Posted by saggurl88Posted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by LadyNeptune
Here’s the thing, him telling you they are broken up could very well be and most certainly is a lie. He tells her he is working late at the office to make more $ $ $ for their babies future. That’s how he explains away the time he gives to you.
Also look at the timing. He met you and started dating you in November 2020. Their baby is coming in April. Takes 9months to grow a baby meaning they were fucking in August of last year just months before he met and pursued a relationship with you. So when exactly did he break up with her?
Because most women don’t realize they are pregnant until 1.5months after conception. Putting her realization that she’s pregnant by mid to late September of 2020.
He said he decided to stay and work things out once she discovered she was pregnant, right?
So if that’s the truth why did less than 2 months later after learning she’s pregnant and “getting back together” did he pursue a romantic relationship with another woman (you).
You also say that he is a good father and that’s one of his qualities you find attractive. Do you really think being a good father means stepping out on the mother of your children? You think the example he is setting in his mistreatment of his children’s mother makes him a good father?
Look I get it. We’ve all been there, being made the side chick without our knowledge. Those that claim they haven’t just never found out about it.
Thing is, up to this point you were an unknowing victim. The ability to make a choice was taken from you since he made the conscious choice to lie to you and withhold this information.
But now that you know the truth, your actions from this point on are yours solely to own. If you choose to continue to be with him you are choosing to be the side chick. You are choosing to be the other woman.
If you truly can’t let him go then set your boundaries and let him prove that his stories are based in truths and not lies.
Stop seeing him until he no longer lives with her. Ask to talk with her to confirm his story that they are broken up.
His excuse that he fears his son being taken from him is just that, an excuse. As a lawyer he knows full well and better than most... the legal avenues available to exert his rights as a parent.
Whew! This was a read. You always come through!
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July. The week of his birthday (end of July) they got into a bad argument about their son walking in on him using the restroom and their son pulled out his private part and imitated what he saw his dad doing. His child's mother walked past the restroom and thought it was unacceptable and started to curse at him in front of their son. He said the argument was so bad he had left the house and stayed with his brother for a week. He told me that argument was the final straw and he came back home to call it off & was going to move in with his brother & that's when she told him that she missed her period. But yes still the timing is a little eerie...
All of this is still crazy to me and I can't put myself in this 'side chick' position. It's unfortunate but it could have been worse. It's up to me what to do from here and the smartest thing to do is to let go. It was fun while it lasted but now it's hard for me to trust what's next. It's like I see the good side of him but I also get a peek into the bad side of him from how he's treating his pregnant BM - and I will be a fool to believe that he wouldn't do the same to me.
You need to think again about the timing tho cause either he has lied so much he can't keep his own story straight, or he thinks your too dumb to comprehend dates. Super insulting either way...Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I went through his social media page and found his child's mother page. On her page was a picture of their son holding a sign reading "big brother coming soon April 2021."Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July.
This is a lie. They had sex in August in order to have a delivery date in April.
So no, the last time they had sex was not in early July. He was fucking her in August a month later. And probably still has an active sex life with her to this very day.
He's a liar. Both passively by withholding information of his current relationship from you. And actively by continuing to lie and downplay his involvement in order to have his cake and eat it too.
I wouldn't believe a single word out of his mouth. Even the 'argument' he invented sounds weak and unconvincing af.
Naw mid July for conception of due in early April.
July 10-25th for intercourses if she specifically April 10th.
Plot twist its not his baby. He's not the only one stepping out on the relationship.
It’s weird she’s met his son.
Maybe they’re poly.
It depends on how old the kid is. If the kid can’t talk it would be easy to introduce him to anyone. It would be significant to the side piece but not necessarily to the guy cheating. The baby isn’t gonna say anything to their mom anywaysclick to expand
Posted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by saggurl88Posted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by LadyNeptune
Here’s the thing, him telling you they are broken up could very well be and most certainly is a lie. He tells her he is working late at the office to make more $ $ $ for their babies future. That’s how he explains away the time he gives to you.
Also look at the timing. He met you and started dating you in November 2020. Their baby is coming in April. Takes 9months to grow a baby meaning they were fucking in August of last year just months before he met and pursued a relationship with you. So when exactly did he break up with her?
Because most women don’t realize they are pregnant until 1.5months after conception. Putting her realization that she’s pregnant by mid to late September of 2020.
He said he decided to stay and work things out once she discovered she was pregnant, right?
So if that’s the truth why did less than 2 months later after learning she’s pregnant and “getting back together” did he pursue a romantic relationship with another woman (you).
You also say that he is a good father and that’s one of his qualities you find attractive. Do you really think being a good father means stepping out on the mother of your children? You think the example he is setting in his mistreatment of his children’s mother makes him a good father?
Look I get it. We’ve all been there, being made the side chick without our knowledge. Those that claim they haven’t just never found out about it.
Thing is, up to this point you were an unknowing victim. The ability to make a choice was taken from you since he made the conscious choice to lie to you and withhold this information.
But now that you know the truth, your actions from this point on are yours solely to own. If you choose to continue to be with him you are choosing to be the side chick. You are choosing to be the other woman.
If you truly can’t let him go then set your boundaries and let him prove that his stories are based in truths and not lies.
Stop seeing him until he no longer lives with her. Ask to talk with her to confirm his story that they are broken up.
His excuse that he fears his son being taken from him is just that, an excuse. As a lawyer he knows full well and better than most... the legal avenues available to exert his rights as a parent.
Whew! This was a read. You always come through!
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July. The week of his birthday (end of July) they got into a bad argument about their son walking in on him using the restroom and their son pulled out his private part and imitated what he saw his dad doing. His child's mother walked past the restroom and thought it was unacceptable and started to curse at him in front of their son. He said the argument was so bad he had left the house and stayed with his brother for a week. He told me that argument was the final straw and he came back home to call it off & was going to move in with his brother & that's when she told him that she missed her period. But yes still the timing is a little eerie...
All of this is still crazy to me and I can't put myself in this 'side chick' position. It's unfortunate but it could have been worse. It's up to me what to do from here and the smartest thing to do is to let go. It was fun while it lasted but now it's hard for me to trust what's next. It's like I see the good side of him but I also get a peek into the bad side of him from how he's treating his pregnant BM - and I will be a fool to believe that he wouldn't do the same to me.
You need to think again about the timing tho cause either he has lied so much he can't keep his own story straight, or he thinks your too dumb to comprehend dates. Super insulting either way...Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I went through his social media page and found his child's mother page. On her page was a picture of their son holding a sign reading "big brother coming soon April 2021."Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July.
This is a lie. They had sex in August in order to have a delivery date in April.
So no, the last time they had sex was not in early July. He was fucking her in August a month later. And probably still has an active sex life with her to this very day.
He's a liar. Both passively by withholding information of his current relationship from you. And actively by continuing to lie and downplay his involvement in order to have his cake and eat it too.
I wouldn't believe a single word out of his mouth. Even the 'argument' he invented sounds weak and unconvincing af.
Naw mid July for conception of due in early April.
July 10-25th for intercourses if she specifically April 10th.
Plot twist its not his baby. He's not the only one stepping out on the relationship.
It’s weird she’s met his son.
Maybe they’re poly.
It depends on how old the kid is. If the kid can’t talk it would be easy to introduce him to anyone. It would be significant to the side piece but not necessarily to the guy cheating. The baby isn’t gonna say anything to their mom anyways
He’s 4.5. Ive been to his swim practice and the thought of that makes me really look at him like 😒 it like he really doesn’t gafclick to expand

Posted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by saggurl88Posted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by LadyNeptune
Here’s the thing, him telling you they are broken up could very well be and most certainly is a lie. He tells her he is working late at the office to make more $ $ $ for their babies future. That’s how he explains away the time he gives to you.
Also look at the timing. He met you and started dating you in November 2020. Their baby is coming in April. Takes 9months to grow a baby meaning they were fucking in August of last year just months before he met and pursued a relationship with you. So when exactly did he break up with her?
Because most women don’t realize they are pregnant until 1.5months after conception. Putting her realization that she’s pregnant by mid to late September of 2020.
He said he decided to stay and work things out once she discovered she was pregnant, right?
So if that’s the truth why did less than 2 months later after learning she’s pregnant and “getting back together” did he pursue a romantic relationship with another woman (you).
You also say that he is a good father and that’s one of his qualities you find attractive. Do you really think being a good father means stepping out on the mother of your children? You think the example he is setting in his mistreatment of his children’s mother makes him a good father?
Look I get it. We’ve all been there, being made the side chick without our knowledge. Those that claim they haven’t just never found out about it.
Thing is, up to this point you were an unknowing victim. The ability to make a choice was taken from you since he made the conscious choice to lie to you and withhold this information.
But now that you know the truth, your actions from this point on are yours solely to own. If you choose to continue to be with him you are choosing to be the side chick. You are choosing to be the other woman.
If you truly can’t let him go then set your boundaries and let him prove that his stories are based in truths and not lies.
Stop seeing him until he no longer lives with her. Ask to talk with her to confirm his story that they are broken up.
His excuse that he fears his son being taken from him is just that, an excuse. As a lawyer he knows full well and better than most... the legal avenues available to exert his rights as a parent.
Whew! This was a read. You always come through!
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July. The week of his birthday (end of July) they got into a bad argument about their son walking in on him using the restroom and their son pulled out his private part and imitated what he saw his dad doing. His child's mother walked past the restroom and thought it was unacceptable and started to curse at him in front of their son. He said the argument was so bad he had left the house and stayed with his brother for a week. He told me that argument was the final straw and he came back home to call it off & was going to move in with his brother & that's when she told him that she missed her period. But yes still the timing is a little eerie...
All of this is still crazy to me and I can't put myself in this 'side chick' position. It's unfortunate but it could have been worse. It's up to me what to do from here and the smartest thing to do is to let go. It was fun while it lasted but now it's hard for me to trust what's next. It's like I see the good side of him but I also get a peek into the bad side of him from how he's treating his pregnant BM - and I will be a fool to believe that he wouldn't do the same to me.
You need to think again about the timing tho cause either he has lied so much he can't keep his own story straight, or he thinks your too dumb to comprehend dates. Super insulting either way...Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I went through his social media page and found his child's mother page. On her page was a picture of their son holding a sign reading "big brother coming soon April 2021."Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July.
This is a lie. They had sex in August in order to have a delivery date in April.
So no, the last time they had sex was not in early July. He was fucking her in August a month later. And probably still has an active sex life with her to this very day.
He's a liar. Both passively by withholding information of his current relationship from you. And actively by continuing to lie and downplay his involvement in order to have his cake and eat it too.
I wouldn't believe a single word out of his mouth. Even the 'argument' he invented sounds weak and unconvincing af.
Naw mid July for conception of due in early April.
July 10-25th for intercourses if she specifically April 10th.
Plot twist its not his baby. He's not the only one stepping out on the relationship.
It’s weird she’s met his son.
Maybe they’re poly.
It depends on how old the kid is. If the kid can’t talk it would be easy to introduce him to anyone. It would be significant to the side piece but not necessarily to the guy cheating. The baby isn’t gonna say anything to their mom anyways
This leo is methodical. I never would of thought.click to expand

Posted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by saggurl88Posted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by LadyNeptune
Here’s the thing, him telling you they are broken up could very well be and most certainly is a lie. He tells her he is working late at the office to make more $ $ $ for their babies future. That’s how he explains away the time he gives to you.
Also look at the timing. He met you and started dating you in November 2020. Their baby is coming in April. Takes 9months to grow a baby meaning they were fucking in August of last year just months before he met and pursued a relationship with you. So when exactly did he break up with her?
Because most women don’t realize they are pregnant until 1.5months after conception. Putting her realization that she’s pregnant by mid to late September of 2020.
He said he decided to stay and work things out once she discovered she was pregnant, right?
So if that’s the truth why did less than 2 months later after learning she’s pregnant and “getting back together” did he pursue a romantic relationship with another woman (you).
You also say that he is a good father and that’s one of his qualities you find attractive. Do you really think being a good father means stepping out on the mother of your children? You think the example he is setting in his mistreatment of his children’s mother makes him a good father?
Look I get it. We’ve all been there, being made the side chick without our knowledge. Those that claim they haven’t just never found out about it.
Thing is, up to this point you were an unknowing victim. The ability to make a choice was taken from you since he made the conscious choice to lie to you and withhold this information.
But now that you know the truth, your actions from this point on are yours solely to own. If you choose to continue to be with him you are choosing to be the side chick. You are choosing to be the other woman.
If you truly can’t let him go then set your boundaries and let him prove that his stories are based in truths and not lies.
Stop seeing him until he no longer lives with her. Ask to talk with her to confirm his story that they are broken up.
His excuse that he fears his son being taken from him is just that, an excuse. As a lawyer he knows full well and better than most... the legal avenues available to exert his rights as a parent.
Whew! This was a read. You always come through!
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July. The week of his birthday (end of July) they got into a bad argument about their son walking in on him using the restroom and their son pulled out his private part and imitated what he saw his dad doing. His child's mother walked past the restroom and thought it was unacceptable and started to curse at him in front of their son. He said the argument was so bad he had left the house and stayed with his brother for a week. He told me that argument was the final straw and he came back home to call it off & was going to move in with his brother & that's when she told him that she missed her period. But yes still the timing is a little eerie...
All of this is still crazy to me and I can't put myself in this 'side chick' position. It's unfortunate but it could have been worse. It's up to me what to do from here and the smartest thing to do is to let go. It was fun while it lasted but now it's hard for me to trust what's next. It's like I see the good side of him but I also get a peek into the bad side of him from how he's treating his pregnant BM - and I will be a fool to believe that he wouldn't do the same to me.
You need to think again about the timing tho cause either he has lied so much he can't keep his own story straight, or he thinks your too dumb to comprehend dates. Super insulting either way...Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I went through his social media page and found his child's mother page. On her page was a picture of their son holding a sign reading "big brother coming soon April 2021."Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July.
This is a lie. They had sex in August in order to have a delivery date in April.
So no, the last time they had sex was not in early July. He was fucking her in August a month later. And probably still has an active sex life with her to this very day.
He's a liar. Both passively by withholding information of his current relationship from you. And actively by continuing to lie and downplay his involvement in order to have his cake and eat it too.
I wouldn't believe a single word out of his mouth. Even the 'argument' he invented sounds weak and unconvincing af.
Naw mid July for conception of due in early April.
July 10-25th for intercourses if she specifically April 10th.
Plot twist its not his baby. He's not the only one stepping out on the relationship.
It’s weird she’s met his son.
Maybe they’re poly.
It depends on how old the kid is. If the kid can’t talk it would be easy to introduce him to anyone. It would be significant to the side piece but not necessarily to the guy cheating. The baby isn’t gonna say anything to their mom anyways
He’s 4.5. Ive been to his swim practice and the thought of that makes me really look at him like 😒 it like he really doesn’t gafclick to expand


Posted by virgal_perfectionist
Update***
I haven’t spoke to him in almost 2 weeks. This past Wednesday & Thursday he’s been begging to go to dinner and talk. I declined. Friday (yesterday) he called me twice when I got off work and I gave in & answered.
He started to tell me some crazy story about his child’s mom mother - I really didn’t pay attention to the story. It was all over the place. I remember him saying something about her checking out of a psychiatric hospital and her making up these stories how he’s going to kill her. I honestly don’t know why he was telling me this. So then he said all of that to say the baby came on Monday the 30th and that he didn’t feel a connection.
I then asked him what’s the point of calling me and begging me to dinner? To tell me this? He told me he’s been having the worst week(s) since I been ignoring him and can’t stop thinking about me blah blah blah. He told me he was heartbroken & he feels like he lost his future wife and doesn’t know what to do.
I congratulated him and told him I have a dinner I need to get ready for (even though I didn’t) but I had to hang up. I felt a little sad last night but I’m much better today. I made to the decision to leave him alone and move on.

Posted by HamstheticsPosted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by Hamsthetics
I want to be a leo man so bad ughhh 😔
Why is that?
coz they are loved by virgals lolclick to expand

Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by LadyNeptune
Here’s the thing, him telling you they are broken up could very well be and most certainly is a lie. He tells her he is working late at the office to make more $ $ $ for their babies future. That’s how he explains away the time he gives to you.
Also look at the timing. He met you and started dating you in November 2020. Their baby is coming in April. Takes 9months to grow a baby meaning they were fucking in August of last year just months before he met and pursued a relationship with you. So when exactly did he break up with her?
Because most women don’t realize they are pregnant until 1.5months after conception. Putting her realization that she’s pregnant by mid to late September of 2020.
He said he decided to stay and work things out once she discovered she was pregnant, right?
So if that’s the truth why did less than 2 months later after learning she’s pregnant and “getting back together” did he pursue a romantic relationship with another woman (you).
You also say that he is a good father and that’s one of his qualities you find attractive. Do you really think being a good father means stepping out on the mother of your children? You think the example he is setting in his mistreatment of his children’s mother makes him a good father?
Look I get it. We’ve all been there, being made the side chick without our knowledge. Those that claim they haven’t just never found out about it.
Thing is, up to this point you were an unknowing victim. The ability to make a choice was taken from you since he made the conscious choice to lie to you and withhold this information.
But now that you know the truth, your actions from this point on are yours solely to own. If you choose to continue to be with him you are choosing to be the side chick. You are choosing to be the other woman.
If you truly can’t let him go then set your boundaries and let him prove that his stories are based in truths and not lies.
Stop seeing him until he no longer lives with her. Ask to talk with her to confirm his story that they are broken up.
His excuse that he fears his son being taken from him is just that, an excuse. As a lawyer he knows full well and better than most... the legal avenues available to exert his rights as a parent.
Whew! This was a read. You always come through!
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July. The week of his birthday (end of July) they got into a bad argument about their son walking in on him using the restroom and their son pulled out his private part and imitated what he saw his dad doing. His child's mother walked past the restroom and thought it was unacceptable and started to curse at him in front of their son. He said the argument was so bad he had left the house and stayed with his brother for a week. He told me that argument was the final straw and he came back home to call it off & was going to move in with his brother & that's when she told him that she missed her period. But yes still the timing is a little eerie...
All of this is still crazy to me and I can't put myself in this 'side chick' position. It's unfortunate but it could have been worse. It's up to me what to do from here and the smartest thing to do is to let go. It was fun while it lasted but now it's hard for me to trust what's next. It's like I see the good side of him but I also get a peek into the bad side of him from how he's treating his pregnant BM - and I will be a fool to believe that he wouldn't do the same to me.
You need to think again about the timing tho cause either he has lied so much he can't keep his own story straight, or he thinks your too dumb to comprehend dates. Super insulting either way...Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I went through his social media page and found his child's mother page. On her page was a picture of their son holding a sign reading "big brother coming soon April 2021."Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July.
This is a lie. They had sex in August in order to have a delivery date in April.
So no, the last time they had sex was not in early July. He was fucking her in August a month later. And probably still has an active sex life with her to this very day.
He's a liar. Both passively by withholding information of his current relationship from you. And actively by continuing to lie and downplay his involvement in order to have his cake and eat it too.
I wouldn't believe a single word out of his mouth. Even the 'argument' he invented sounds weak and unconvincing af.click to expand

Posted by saggurl88Posted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by LadyNeptune
Here’s the thing, him telling you they are broken up could very well be and most certainly is a lie. He tells her he is working late at the office to make more $ $ $ for their babies future. That’s how he explains away the time he gives to you.
Also look at the timing. He met you and started dating you in November 2020. Their baby is coming in April. Takes 9months to grow a baby meaning they were fucking in August of last year just months before he met and pursued a relationship with you. So when exactly did he break up with her?
Because most women don’t realize they are pregnant until 1.5months after conception. Putting her realization that she’s pregnant by mid to late September of 2020.
He said he decided to stay and work things out once she discovered she was pregnant, right?
So if that’s the truth why did less than 2 months later after learning she’s pregnant and “getting back together” did he pursue a romantic relationship with another woman (you).
You also say that he is a good father and that’s one of his qualities you find attractive. Do you really think being a good father means stepping out on the mother of your children? You think the example he is setting in his mistreatment of his children’s mother makes him a good father?
Look I get it. We’ve all been there, being made the side chick without our knowledge. Those that claim they haven’t just never found out about it.
Thing is, up to this point you were an unknowing victim. The ability to make a choice was taken from you since he made the conscious choice to lie to you and withhold this information.
But now that you know the truth, your actions from this point on are yours solely to own. If you choose to continue to be with him you are choosing to be the side chick. You are choosing to be the other woman.
If you truly can’t let him go then set your boundaries and let him prove that his stories are based in truths and not lies.
Stop seeing him until he no longer lives with her. Ask to talk with her to confirm his story that they are broken up.
His excuse that he fears his son being taken from him is just that, an excuse. As a lawyer he knows full well and better than most... the legal avenues available to exert his rights as a parent.
Whew! This was a read. You always come through!
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July. The week of his birthday (end of July) they got into a bad argument about their son walking in on him using the restroom and their son pulled out his private part and imitated what he saw his dad doing. His child's mother walked past the restroom and thought it was unacceptable and started to curse at him in front of their son. He said the argument was so bad he had left the house and stayed with his brother for a week. He told me that argument was the final straw and he came back home to call it off & was going to move in with his brother & that's when she told him that she missed her period. But yes still the timing is a little eerie...
All of this is still crazy to me and I can't put myself in this 'side chick' position. It's unfortunate but it could have been worse. It's up to me what to do from here and the smartest thing to do is to let go. It was fun while it lasted but now it's hard for me to trust what's next. It's like I see the good side of him but I also get a peek into the bad side of him from how he's treating his pregnant BM - and I will be a fool to believe that he wouldn't do the same to me.
You need to think again about the timing tho cause either he has lied so much he can't keep his own story straight, or he thinks your too dumb to comprehend dates. Super insulting either way...Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I went through his social media page and found his child's mother page. On her page was a picture of their son holding a sign reading "big brother coming soon April 2021."Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July.
This is a lie. They had sex in August in order to have a delivery date in April.
So no, the last time they had sex was not in early July. He was fucking her in August a month later. And probably still has an active sex life with her to this very day.
He's a liar. Both passively by withholding information of his current relationship from you. And actively by continuing to lie and downplay his involvement in order to have his cake and eat it too.
I wouldn't believe a single word out of his mouth. Even the 'argument' he invented sounds weak and unconvincing af.
Naw mid July for conception of due in early April.
July 10-25th for intercourses if she specifically April 10th.
Plot twist its not his baby. He's not the only one stepping out on the relationship.
It’s weird she’s met his son.
Maybe they’re poly.
It depends on how old the kid is. If the kid can’t talk it would be easy to introduce him to anyone. It would be significant to the side piece but not necessarily to the guy cheating. The baby isn’t gonna say anything to their mom anywaysclick to expand

Posted by LadyNeptune
Here’s the thing, him telling you they are broken up could very well be and most certainly is a lie. He tells her he is working late at the office to make more $ $ $ for their babies future. That’s how he explains away the time he gives to you.
Also look at the timing. He met you and started dating you in November 2020. Their baby is coming in April. Takes 9months to grow a baby meaning they were fucking in August of last year just months before he met and pursued a relationship with you. So when exactly did he break up with her?
Because most women don’t realize they are pregnant until 1.5months after conception. Putting her realization that she’s pregnant by mid to late September of 2020.
He said he decided to stay and work things out once she discovered she was pregnant, right?
So if that’s the truth why did less than 2 months later after learning she’s pregnant and “getting back together” did he pursue a romantic relationship with another woman (you).
You also say that he is a good father and that’s one of his qualities you find attractive. Do you really think being a good father means stepping out on the mother of your children? You think the example he is setting in his mistreatment of his children’s mother makes him a good father?
Look I get it. We’ve all been there, being made the side chick without our knowledge. Those that claim they haven’t just never found out about it.
Thing is, up to this point you were an unknowing victim. The ability to make a choice was taken from you since he made the conscious choice to lie to you and withhold this information.
But now that you know the truth, your actions from this point on are yours solely to own. If you choose to continue to be with him you are choosing to be the side chick. You are choosing to be the other woman.
If you truly can’t let him go then set your boundaries and let him prove that his stories are based in truths and not lies.
Stop seeing him until he no longer lives with her. Ask to talk with her to confirm his story that they are broken up.
His excuse that he fears his son being taken from him is just that, an excuse. As a lawyer he knows full well and better than most... the legal avenues available to exert his rights as a parent.

Posted by HamstheticsPosted by malloryorPosted by HamstheticsPosted by virgal_perfectionistPosted by Hamsthetics
I want to be a leo man so bad ughhh 😔
Why is that?
coz they are loved by virgals lol
Virgos are pretty easy to get with lol
Maybe for a short term, but to be loved and genuinely adored by them is definitely off the table for boring Capricorn men.click to expand

Posted by virgal_perfectionist
I met this Leo man back in Nov 2020 & we hit it off pretty fast. I don't tend to like anyone - especially so fast (I'm nit-picky) but with him it's so easy. Our chemistry is insane. Its almost scary. I haven't dated anyone seriously in 4.5 years but I started to see myself with this man. He's 8 years older, has a great career and an amazing father to his son. Our dates are always so thoughtful and romantic. He pays attention to me and listens to my likes and dislikes. When we kiss I get butterflies like I'm in high school all over again. When we're apart we miss each other like crazy. We text throughout the day, he has sent me my favorite food & flowers to my job on a few occasions. We recently spent a weekend together out of town and had an amazing weekend. I started to question myself "If I was falling for him." This past weekend he had too much to drink and told me he loved me (which is the second time he has told me)...
The twist...
I started to notice he never invited me to his place. We spend a lot of our time out on dates or my place. I brought this to his attention he played it off but then told me he had something to tell me & will tell me in due time. With me being the over-thinker that I am - I went through his social media page and found his child's mother page. On her page was a picture of their son holding a sign reading "big brother coming soon April 2021." My heart sank to my stomach. I remember not sleeping that night. The next morning I screen shot the picture and sent it to him asking his involvement. He text me this long paragraph telling me that he is the father and that they live together. He also told me that they broke up last year and he was in the process of moving out but they found out she was pregnant and he decided to stay. He promised me that he would move out by May/June this year because their situation is becoming worse. He explains that it's the reason he never home (which he isn't - he spends so much time with me that I didn't see this coming).
I know I should run and cut him off - which I did for a couple of weeks but he has been promising me he's leaving and I somewhat believe him but then again I don't. I've never saw myself in this situation and I don't know what to do. Apart of me wants to stay to see if he will really leave and pursue something me. But the other part of me is screaming WTF are you doing - if he's creeping around on his pregnant gf - or whatever she is to him - he will do the same to me eventually.
I'm so stuck & I know this is crazy but I need some advice 😢
Him:
Sun - Leo
Moon - Gemini
Mecr - Leo
Venus - Cancer
Me:
Sun - Virgo
Moon - Cancer
Mecr - Virgo
Venus - Virgo
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Whew! This was a read. You always come through!
I briefly thought about the timing. He told me the last time they had sex with 4th of July. The week of his birthday (end of July) they got into a bad argument about their son walking in on him using the restroom and their son pulled out his private part and imitated what he saw his dad doing. His child's mother walked past the restroom and thought it was unacceptable and started to curse at him in front of their son. He said the argument was so bad he had left the house and stayed with his brother for a week. He told me that argument was the final straw and he came back home to call it off & was going to move in with his brother & that's when she told him that she missed her period. But yes still the timing is a little eerie...
All of this is still crazy to me and I can't put myself in this 'side chick' position. It's unfortunate but it could have been worse. It's up to me what to do from here and the smartest thing to do is to let go. It was fun while it lasted but now it's hard for me to trust what's next. It's like I see the good side of him but I also get a peek into the bad side of him from how he's treating his pregnant BM - and I will be a fool to believe that he wouldn't do the same to me.