DennyV's saga.....part 2 (Page 4)

Well, you will probably get varied responses from everyone, but I would say that even though I'm an uber romantic person and would love that, I don't know if she will. The only reason I'm saying that is based on this thread all of the angst you've gone through. Plus, you may not want her to know you've already fallen for her 😉. LOL. Seriously though, fallen your heart and you'll do the right thing.

something to think about

I would LOVE to do it...but right now, i just dont knwo if its the best thing to do.

The last thing i want to do is make her uncomfortable in any way

waht to do...waht to do

Fallen should have been "follow".

i figured out waht you meant 🙂

Well, I think you answered your own question. If you think she'll be uncomfortable then don't do it. BUT, save it for when you are farther in and just surprise her randomly with flowers (and NOT on that awful Valentine's day! Blech) LOL, just my personal bias against v-day! I think you should be nice to people on random days ...... that' just how I feel.

I agree with you 100% .

I always have this argument...why show somebody one day that you love them when you should be doing it 365 days a year

but what am i supposed to do for V-day for her? nothing? I cant do taht....

I was thinkign of some how asking her for her address and sending her pink roses signed "Happy Valentines Day...your friend, Denny"

any suggestions? I knwo i have to see how things play out cause it is a month away...but i have to do something

NO FLOWERS or CANDY! Sorry, cliche and npt necessary. Between now and then find out something she is interested on; a hobby, etc. Maybe she loves horses, so you buy her a book about horses or a horseback riding certificate (when it's not snowing 😉). Or maybe she collects stamps/coins/dolls/boardgames, whatever! Whatever it is, NO flowers and NO candy! Be creative and different.

she likes camomile tea...lol...so something i would do is send her a dozen pink roses with 2 tea bags...haha, i would totally do something like that...dumb right?

i really dont know if I would really do it...i was just thinking out loud

Hmmmm, that's better. Ohhh, maybe you could get a really pretty teapot and put the roses in the teapot. And of course, the tea separate! LOL! Pretty presentation and thoughtful.

what to do for V-day

well a lot can happen in a month..i just dont want to wait too long and have it be february 12th and i still have no idea what to do

ohhhhhh that is good

get a nice tea pot...there is a tea store in the mall.....and put the roses in the tea pot with 2 tea bags of camomile tea on the side

oh thats not bad...

see she drinks it but i dotn think shes obsessed with it you know...its a thought though
...i like it a lot

Cool! At least you're thinking outside the box 🙂
Keep us posted (as I know you will). If you ever need any gift ideas, just let me know! LOL, I'm all for different gifts. I used to cook for one of my girlfriends to impress her boyfriends! LOL, and I help almost all my male friends with gifts, cause they just are clueless most of the time. The women have loved their gifts (but not always the men)...my male friends are kind of dirt bags, nothing like you!!!

thank you very much..il take that as a compliment...haha

yea i do love taht gift idea...but lets see how the next 3-4 weeks play out

maybe il find something else out that she likes you know

but i will defenetly be back to you for gift ideas...from waht you say, you are pretty good at them...so il keep you in mind as V-day is approaching

its crazy, im already thinking about V-day...I never fail to amaze myself

you know when we were driving to the mall, she told me what she wanted to name her daughter when she has a kid...i forgot what it was but it was pretty...but it was like she wanted my opinion....idk if thats good or bad or doesnt mean anything

Stop driving yourself crazy and just enjoy your time with her. You seem to be over analyzing everything and not just.....being. Maybe you are just being yourself, and are just expressing your anxiousness here, but I want you to just enjoy your time with her and stop putting so much pressure on yourself. I want her to like you just the way you are. Don't try to impress her (which I'm not saying you are trying to do) but just go with the flow and enjoy yourself and enjoy the early, fun stages of a newly blossoming relationship. And yes, you can definitely ask me anytime for gift ideas/suggestions 🙂

lol USC will definitely have some good ideas ! she's venus ruled too...

but remember Libra's also a masculine sign so the girls are not too girly, right? The Libra girls I know are not --- Dxp Libra girls help me out...

I like the tea / pot ideas... china's a libra country so if there's like a chinatown or something around you, you can see what they have...?
they usually have good tea accessories and stuff...

? EVEN THE BUSIEST PERSON IN THE WORLD HAS TIME FOR SOMEONE THEY WANT TO BE WITH !!!!!

This isn't necessarily true. There have been times in my life when I havne't had the time because I had so many projects on the side.

I remember this man who I was very much in loved with, over the moon like Denny is, and he called me and asked me to go out. By the time we got a hold of each other after playing phone tag, then chatting a bit to catch up, it was 9:30. I said no because I was exhausted because I had been out every night the week before and out late the night before that. It wasn't that I DIDN'T want to see him. I even said that but he was very disappointed and he never asked me out again. It really broke my heart.

Sometimes people have other things going on and as much as you want to see that person, you just can't.

Fruit bouquets are all the rage here. They cut fruit up and make it look like flowers.

If you want to give her something on Saturday, just do something small. I like the idea of a box of tea with a pink bow or 5 packages of her favorite type of gum wrapped up in ribbon or a cute hat or mitts. Small things. Flowers too much at this point. Go cute. Not "romantic" in the traditional sense.

I LOVE Chinatown. I love their fabrics. I have alsorts of little Asian bags, tea cups, slippers, robes, etc. Even my eyeglass case, now that I am blind 😢, is from Chinatown.

* but remember Libra's also a masculine sign so the girls are not too girly, right? The Libra girls I know are not --- Dxp Libra girls help me out...

I am with you! I HATE being treated like a precious pink princesses. blech!

I think Denny *IS* being himself. This is pretty much how I act when I am in love.

Im defenetly being myself...its the only way I know how to act...

As for V-day...i like your advice Sparrow...go cute not romantic...but watch, with my luck, she'll be expecting romantic...but im not doing it

Im NOT getting her dozen red roses with 15 "I love you balloons"...NO WAY...its not there yet and she will get scared. Im want to do something CUTE like sparrow said...now i just have to think of something. But we have time to OCD that together 🙂🙂🙂 (i bet you guys cant wait for that)

Im in class right now, Obstetrics (pregnancy)...and im watching all these videos about first trimester and 2nd trimesters...and Im sure you can all guess wahts going through my mind......haha...if you guessed me marrying her and having kids...you guessed right ...lolol.....yes, this boy is crazy

"wise men say...only fools fall in love...but I cant help...falling in love, with you"

ive been playing that part non-stop

(forward to 4:33 and let it play)

* But we have time to OCD that together (i bet you guys cant wait for that)

HA HA HA! yeah. HA HA HA! 🙂

You are too cute!

You're doing fine Denny. Fingers crossed Saturday happens and goes well. I think she wants to see you. I think the date changed things in her mind a little. In a good way. 🙂

i think it changed things too...for the better

she made some hints as to WHEN we would hang out again...not IF we hang out again

she hinted that she liked going to the mall with me because I was patient
and shes like "if i still worked at my old job i could have just stayed by you if the weather was bad"..when she said that i was like..you could stay here anyway...lolol

nah but seriously...i think the date changed things for the better

like i said, i sent her a text yesterday asking her how the interview went and i got a reply within 30 seconds...now im not sitting here saying that shes in love with me ....im not saying that at all...all im saying is that im starting to notice a difference between pre-date behavior and post-date behavior...and there was a lot of positive to take from our date...thats all

I hope i get saturday night too...im getting a haircut tommorrow just in case....OCD

* no need for more gifting. if she agrees to the dinner...go to the restaurant on sat...make the reservation and leave pretty flowers with them to put on your table....or arrange for champage or something with your meal...

NO!!! DON'T do this!

Libras don't like to be the centre of attention. If a man did that, I would be so embarrassed I would be clawing to get out of my own skin. It is way to over the top and announces to the whole room that you are courting her. How embarrassing! Just reading that has me freaked out. lol!

Libras love romance but they don't like large romantic guestures.

We like cute thoughtful things that say I have been paying attention, I was thinking of you, but no one else needs to know. THAT is much sweeter. Especially at the beginning when things are a little uncertain.

I think the fact that they have already communicated since the last date means she knows he is interested and that he wants to get together but I know what you are talking about. Lots of girls hate the are we getting together or not thing. Personally, I HATE talking on the phone, most Libras do (we took a survey) ha ha ha, and texting/emailing works much, much better for me. I often don't even check my phone messages. I can go a week before I do.

* We like cute thoughtful things that say I have been paying attention, I was thinking of you, but no one else needs to know.

Much more intimate too! Libras like their privacy.

* texting is a juvenile way to court someone.

To you. Perhaps she feels differently.

I have several Libra friends. I can't see any of them being comfortable with someone going to a restaurant, ordering them champagne and leaving flowers to be put on the table. I think everyone of us would be squirming and wanting the floor to swallow us up. It is too much. But each one of us would be absolutely delighted if a man got us say a cute scarf or some other small guesture of thoughtfulness.

I do, however, agree with you about calling on Friday. (Calling or texting 😛) But he has already asked her out on the date. It was left in her hands because she wasn't sure what her time would be like.

I don't think courtship is as formal as it use to be. Men who have treated me too formally have made me very uncomfortable and I have fled the scene of the crime as I found their guestures very embarrassing.

I thought the teapot was for V-day? Not sure.

I thought a small box of her favorite tea was nice. Small shows he was paying attention to her, creative, interesting and again shows he was paying attention to HER. Anyone can wine and dine someone, but showing that he paid attention to her is very, very different.

I never really trust the guys that are too smooth, the wine you dine you types. They are smooth because they are experienced. I like the guy who takes sincere interest and makes a few blunders along the way.

🙂

I am not screwed up.

I think a scarf is more geniune but I am not really about the money, I am about the thought behind stuff.

*sigh*

I guess the idea that what works for you does NOT necessarily work for everyone else. What you are suggesting for him to do would NOT work for me. I am being honest as I truly like Denny and want him to get the girl.

I thought the shoes were weird and would have told him not to do it, but he did it before he asked. (So unlike him! lol!)

I think a small gift is appropriate if he wanted to give it, but it should be personal and about her.

*sigh*
FIRST of all, the teapot idea was just that, an IDEA! SECOND, it was a SUGGESTION for v-day NOT for their date this weekend, which is pretty clearly stated in the exchanges Denny and I wrote last evening.
FINALLY, my main objective was to get him out of the flowers and candy (yawn) thing of v-day and think about something more personal that shows he's been listening to her, as little sparrow has also mentioned.
Anyway, I just want him to relax and have an awesome time getting to know her. I think he sounds like an awesome and genuine young man, so that's what I want the young lady to see too.

Here we are coming up to "THE DATE"... You have come a long way, Denny!!!! YEA!!🙂🙂🙂

Anyway, here are my thoughts..

Call her before the date. She would probably like to hear your voice. I love voice!!! 🙂

Then, if you want to give her something Saturday, make a small gesture. How about something that will remind her of you.

Then just have a wonderful time together. As you learn about her tastes, the more you talk to her, the more prepared you will be when Valentine's Day rolls around.

Sure there are 365/366 Days to be good to someone, but as a Libra myself.. I need to celebrate it in some way. Could be dinner at home, just make it romantic.

Good for you Denny!!!

ok...i get out of class...and the whole operation is in shambles...hahaha...

first off...the Tea Pot was strictly an IDEA that me and USC were talkign about...we were just talking about alternatives to flowers and candy.

secondly....who said anything about me getting her anything for the 2nd date?
Im not getting her ANYTHING for the second date....im taking her to dinner and the movies...im not buying her another gift. I never said i was going to. I didnt even think about it...thats way too much.

And the sneakers thing, i knew some of you were gonna to see this differently...hers my raitonale...now im nto saying if it was right or wrong...but here is my rationale....so picture this....me and her are at the mall in the Macys shoe department...shes trying on shoes...im helping her with ehr sizes....now she wanted 2 pairs of shoes and shs asking me waht i think and which i like better....so i told her to get both....now you have to remember....i started thinking about when we were eating dinner and she told me she came home crying because of her job, and i started thinking about that and then i was looking at her, and i realized shes having problems at her job so it just felt like the right thing to do...and i played it off as an xmas gift...so that takes away some of the randomness...

so...thats my raitonale..im not buying her anythign for the 2nd date...have no idea where that came from....but i am going to do somethign CUTE for V-day....i dotn know what yet...but whatever i do...im going to sign it "your friend, Denny"...not "LOVE YOU WITH ALL MY HEART"...nothing like that.....whatever it is i give her, it will be from "you friend, Denny'. Thats it.

And about what im going to do...im thinkin of just calling her tommorrow but i know she has an interview tommorrow and i dont know waht time...so i dont wnat to call in the middle of it...so idk what to do...the last thing i want to do is call or text her in the middle of her interview

Becareful with signing it "Your Friend Denny".

You don't want her to think too much i.e. "Love, Denny" but you don't want her to think too little i.e. "Your FRIEND, Denny". You don't want to be her friend. So don't misrepresent yourself.

Instead go middle road "Happy Valentine's Day, Denny"

BUT the furryone makes a great point Date 2 first ... then we conquer the world. MWHHHAAA HAAAA

ok....."Happy Valentines Day...-Denny" it is. You see, thats why I say it here first...lol.

Still thinking way too far into this I see....

I thought all was solved after the first date?

Are you going out with her this weekend?

i know Briana...i am thinking way too far ahead

I dont know about this weekend...im debating waht to do..i know she has an interview tommorrow, so i dont want to call or text her during her interview...so i was thinking about maybe calling or texting at around 2pm..when shes on her way to work and asking her

lol furry! you're asking him to deal with this a Leo woman would appreciate - Libra women are quite different in beginning courtship...

yea Denny, you shouldn't go to class or live life cos as soon as you disappear, everything goes up in smoke!!! 😛

ok so maybe contact before to wish luck and tell to call after? or maybe today to wish luck or text ?

^^Ain't that the truth Zen!
The poor guy is just trying get to get support about dating a young lady and everything goes to hell in a handbasket!

if you want to move things along denny, dont ask these ugly w i t c h e s for

advice. they are nothing but losers! they will ruin it for you and they do it on purpose because they cant get and keep a relatioship going.

misery loves company!

if you want advice...listen to your own heart

and proceed. just be yourself and dont listen to these people.

im following you and you are doing fine.

YOU dont need help and you cant do this forever. soon you will have to be yourself

and not what you think someone wants you to be or it will unravel and you will

have learned nothing. stop being what you think she wants and do what you would without

advice from strangers. only being authentic will be lasting.

i can give one really good piece of advice. be as gracious as possible! libras love

this! willie nelson is a perfect example of this behaviour. i watched him being

interviewed by ed bradley before he died(what a shame); this is the true meaning of graciousness. he was just lovely. a lovely humanbeing. both of them.

no sarcasim and rudeness but be agreeable and nice, mellow and fun and flowing conversation. very
laid back.

so, kindess and manners and charm and easy going. thats the ticket! dont be coarse

or rude or mean or just ungreeable type of person.

thats not so hard, is it?

i dont think im come on here for "advice" pursay, but more liek support. I mean i do ask peoples opinions, and im very grateful for the people who have come on here to help me.. but I ultimately do what i feel is right as well. But i definitely listen when people talk....or read as people write in this case. 🙂 Because you are all women for the most part and i just think who better to ask.

But its 12:10pm and again, im kind of stuck waht to do...i could either send a text...or call and leave a vm...im leaning toward the text. I think she perfers to talk via text...i mean she didnt say it like that straight out, but its a new age, its a new era....people like the idea of conversing without having to hold a phone to their ear the whole time....after our first date...she didnt call me to thank me...she textd it "thanks 4 eveything"...does taht mean shes not a woman? no..absolutely not.

So im thinking of sending her a text asking how her interview went...and pending on the response...il see whats up with tommorrow. I just think that she knew i invited her, she should get back to me...now maybe she will tonight after work...but if i text her now, il never know id she had intentions on getting back to me....so what do i do

"if you want to move things along denny, dont ask these ugly w i t c h e s for
advice. they are nothing but losers! they will ruin it for you and they do it on purpose because they cant get and keep a relatioship going.
misery loves company!"

Lol. I don't consider myself an ugly witch. & I'm not miserable. I'm in a long-term relationship with another italian Libra male from Jersey. So I feel like I might have advice to offer.

🙂 you do have good advice Briana

I think it is up to you re: text or VM.

Just send a little message saying, "I was thinking of you and your interview today. How was it? Hope it was good. We still on for tomorrow night?"

Kill two birds, one stone.

🙂

it reminds me of teh first date

even though she was supposed to get back to me...i bit the bullet and called her and she was like "yea were going for lunch....il meet you at 2"..

so so far today i didnt call her or text her....i actually fell asleep for a little and right now shes at work til 12:30ish

but if i dont hear from her tonight...maybe il send her a text tommorrow..idk

but she did say she would get back to me

the furryone makes a great point. MOST women I know, if they don't hear the day before, assume it isn't going to happen and make other plans.