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actually...when we went out to the restaurant monday....shes wanted chicken francese but she wasnt sure how they would make it...and also for dessert the waitress said something about having a snickers bar...so we lauged about taht...but the place i want to take ehr to is EXCELLENT so i can text her "this is the place to get your chicken francese...and they have better desserts tahn a snickers bar like bazarelli's had"
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ok ....she texted me back "sure,...i got hired"

so i texted back "congrats! We'll celebrate tommorrow...where did you get hired?"

so she said "sure"....which means......DATE NUMBER 2 BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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so I just got back from date #2...here goes

original plans were for 5...then she sends a text, can we go at 6...the she calls and tells me how cold it is and tells me she is going to start getting ready...so i dont hear from her for anotehr hour and a half..finally 7:30 i call her...no answer....then i text her "are you ok"...now im thinking something happened....she calls me adn sais shell be there in 20 min..she said she was late because her neighbor got back from the hospital, and the husband thought the wife didnt look good so he wanted her to coem and check her blood pressure etc.

so we finally meet at the place at 8. She looked unbelievable. I told her how beautiful she looked too....my God did she look pretty. Dress, boots...everything...she really dressed nice. So there was no movies afterwards...we were at the place from 8-11pm talking. We got served nice and slow...we had cappucino to end it....and we talked a lot. We talked about school, love, marriage, kids. So there are some positive and some negatives...and i have a bad case of OCD right now...i mean my head is in a million directions. So some good things were that she was telling me about going to the italian place by her which she thinks is excellent and comparing it to the place we went to tonight...so that a good sign. And before we met up i offered to pick her up becaue it was cold outside, i figured she could just jump into a warm car...and shes like "no its ok, but il invite you hear and il cook one night"..so that was good...i was actually being very persistant about picking her up...i kept asking her to just let me get her and taht i didnt care about the driving...but she insisted on meeting me so i said ok. Then were eating dinner and she pulls out a digital camera and she asks to take a pic of me. so i said sure..then i took one of her....and the took another one of me later on at dinner. Now I have no clue as to why she woudl want a picture of me...but she did. I didnt mind...waht do i care...i just dont know waht to make of it. Then we were talking about love and kids and marriage and all this....she showed me pictures from Columbia in her camera. And I think we had a nice night. At the end when we were walking outside (it was freezing out too)...shes like "Thank you, I had a great time"..and then we kissed on the cheek...and taht was it.

but my head is going crazy....(continued on next post)
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my head is in a million directions...we had a nice night...we laughed....and i see myself just falling deeper and deeper the more im with her. But I dont know how she feels. She could be showing people my picture in her camera bragging about me and how hse had a good time...or she could be thinking that were just going to be friends..i have no idea.

The bad thing is...that we were scheduled to eat at 5 and didnt til 8. And when she called me in the day and told me it was too cold..i was thinking maybe shes waiting for me to tell her we can go another time...but I never said it. And another bad thing was, maybe this isnt bad, but i wouldnt do it....is that she said she may go to her friends bday party afterwards. Now maybe its not a big deal...and believe me, she did not rush dinner at all...we were there for 3+ hours. I even put my jacket on at one point to leave and we stayed for a half hour after that. But, its like, if im with her I wouldnt think about going to a bday party after...but idk...maybe its just me. Im probably thinking too much into it. But with the digital camera at dinner...what was taht? I didnt mind, i didnt think it was weird...but do u think her mother was like "take a pic so i can see waht he looks like" or something like that. I can not imagine any other reason for taking a pic of me. I know it cant be a bad thing...casue u dont take pics of people you dont like. .....

I just dont know waht to make of this all....but we talked about love and i made it clear to her that my wife is going to be my everything...and that shes going to be my best friend, not only my wife. So we were talking about stuff like that...and our mothers and grandmothers...and then she started telling me about this guy taht she fell for 2 years ago but he had a gf and he liked her but kept going back to his gf....IDK...i have a lot of mixed emotions...I mean i know how i feel about her...thats not the confused part...the confused part is how she feels about me.

At one point in the conversation i was asking her if she was gonna teach me to dance salsa...and she implied that shes not a great teacher....now this could all mean nothing and im just making a big deal about it....i go back and forth between the good things and the things im confused about....I just wish i knew how she felt about me...is she waiting for me to kiss her? Is she waiting for me to tell her how i feel? who knows...I just dont know what to make of this
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That's SO wild she wanted a picture of you. Because yesterday I was about to ask you to get a picture of her for all of us on here. Haha. (Just didn't want to put too much pressure on you.) πŸ™‚
I'm willing to bet she talked about you to someone and they wanted to see what you looked like. That's so cute.

She probably should have told you she was going to be late and such...but that sounds so typical of a Libra girl to me. :X
One of my bestfriends growing up was a Libra and she acted like this alot - she was late everywhere she went because something would always come up and she wasn't big on explaining herself. She just figured she couldn't help it and everyone should understand.
Most people thought that was rude, but oh well.

About her friends birthday - it was a birthday afterall. Not just a party. And rule #1 in girl world is don't blow your friends of for a guy. Right? She had to go see her friend for her birthday after your date. That's not a big deal - she didn't rush you, like you said. No hidden messages there.

She opened up to you about an ex love interest. That means #1 she's starting to trust you, and #2 I think she might have done this so you were aware of some fears/insecurities she has with men now. So remember what she said and always be the opposite. πŸ™‚
(& maybe she wanted to hear about your past too?)

I think you did fine. Sucks you didn't get to see the movie. Atleast you're establishing a friendship. After another date or two you can make a move. I'll be waiting here to hear about it. πŸ˜‰
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Oh i forgot to tell you also....we were eating and shes like "i want to ask you something"...im like ok...shes like "can you go to my old job (the job she used to work at that is near my house) and pick up my xmas present?". They got her something for xmas but she doesnt want to go back and see everybody because she doesnt want to tell them about her job now and bla bla. So i agreed to do it.

i still dotn know waht to make of this...or what the next move is. Literally, i feel like she could be sitting there saying, this isnt going beyond friends or she could be showing my pic, bragging about how great she thinks I am to her friends or her mother. Who knows. Its driving me crazy though.
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yea im sure it was a good thing.....i guess i just knew how she felt about me thats all....thats whats driving me crazy. And its way too early to have that talk you know. So i guess i jsut have to roll with the punches and see waht happens, but man i wish i knew.

Like i said there are positives and negatives....and I sit here and analyze the whole time we spent together...and its not good....now its like, when do i call/text next. I want to kind of give her some breahting room and i have to get started with my school work. Because im behind already...so as much as i would love to call or text her...im going to try and get caught up with my school work for the next few days...and who knows, maybe she will get in touch with me by then.
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Denny, I'm not saying she's ready to walk down the aisle and pledge her undying love; HOWEVER, if she didn't like you and wasn't interested....she would NOT have gone out with you. Also, you talked about "adult issues." Marriage, relationships, etc. I wouldn't waste my breath talking about that stuff with someone that I wasn't even mildly interested in...seriously; that's just me though. Do your work tomorrow and call or drop her a text tomorrow and get something set-up for this week. You are interested in her, so DON'T let any moss grow under your feet waiting for the "appropriate" amount of contact time. Keep it moving.
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no....but i think she can tell.

I dont want to do anything or say anything too heavy yet. We only went out twice...we had 2 really good dates...we've made it clear to each other that we both had great times and talked about hanging out again so thats is good right now.

I dont want to rush into anything ... right now everything is really good...that text last night was a very good text, it shows taht shes at least thinking about me...and that made me happy. So im just taking everything in stride. Of course im extatic on the inside...almost a half a year trying to take her out...and now finally, everything is going good. I dont want to jinx myself, but we've come a long way.
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lol - so the OCD re-appeared? πŸ˜›

all sounds good and I know Libras are very intelligent so can read in between the lines but a little direct decisiveness might help as two air signs. This way you don't get to 6 months again and you're both still in this friendly *Denny's confused* stage.
These days some people date several at the same time to keep their options open or have less emotional investment...

I'm not saying come right and ask her or tie her down but just have a feel so she has no mistake what's on your mind... erm, like a kiss or summat, erm, so you can get to the sack action --- what? ok yea, my mind's always in the gutter! πŸ˜› but I'm sure Denny's OCD-ed on that πŸ˜‰

Like USC says, you have to keep it moving!
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hahahaha (nearly choked on your food)....zena your funny

I think she has a pretty good idea that I like her...I think she knows what I want to come out of it...but its not time to have that full blown convo with her yet. I agree with you 100% about a kiss or something to give her a feel that there is no mistake whats on my mind...but remember...it was only our 2nd date...and i really didnt have an oppurtunity to do anythign even if i wanted to...Saturday when we went out it was like -5 degrees out when i walked her to the car...its not like we could have talked for a few outside her car...but there no rush.

The kiss will come at the right time...i feel more comfortable about hwo she feels about me...and who knows, maybe next time we go out, I will have an oppurtunity and i will do it....or maybe I wont...it all depends on the situation. But I think she can sense how I feel about her.

And im not saying im nto going to call her for 2 weeks....il probably wind up texting or calling her sometime this week....but for right now, even though im thinking about her like crazy...i have to attempt to get some school work done. But shes on my mind non-stop. You had to see how beautiful she looked on saturday...she bought a brand new dress...i dont knwo if she bought it specefically for our date or not...but it looked so good on her...shes such a good, respectable girl...I just love spending time with her...i wish i could be with her all the time...ok ok, im going

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Why would he tell her that he wants to date her? He is dating her. Lol!

Denny, my dear, STOP worrying.

She likes you:
-She pulled out all the stops on her appearance.
-She has made little plans on things to do together (i.e. restaurants to try, wants to cook for you which is HUGE. I don't cook for noone ? although once they eat something I have cooked they are quite okay with never eating my cooking again. HA HA HA HA!)
-She hung around you for as long as possible. 3+ hours in a restaurant is impressive.
-She took your picture because you wants to look at you. Duh!
-She thanked you for the date within 24 hrs

I agree that you shouldn't have a full-blown conversation with her ? yet. WAY. TOO. SOON. I think she likes you but is keeping herself open. The deal is not yet sealed.

Pushing a libra into anything is a bad idea. We like options. Probably too much. Lol!

She seems like she is someone who will always be late. This might just be the way she is. I have a feeling she was probably trying to doll herself up, but I do have some friends who I just count on to be late. She sounds like one of those. Is that something you can live with?

RE: Her past dating history

Not sure what to make of that. I know SO many Libra girls who have that pattern usually with a Pisces or another water sign. It has taken some of them years to get over the hurt and betrayal. Not sure why she would mention it. I usually don't lay myself bare about my dating history just cause most of it is in the past now. Keep an eye on this. If she talks about him a lot, she isn't over him. 😒

Do work today and contact her tomorrow. πŸ™‚
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* i never really could relate much to the libras on this board though anyway...no offense though!!!

None taken! See if a guy did any of that stuff for me, I would be freaked out and never come back especially if he didn't know me too well. But I am A LOT of Libra and all that cardinal doesn't like to be bought or pushed into anything. I tend for spontaneous, creative stuff than polished routine stuff. The things that show he has been paying attention. And don't forget Denny is a student.

Plus, I want this girl to like Denny for the right reasons. HE should also be evaluating HER.

I am actually getting together with one of my libra gfs tonight. I will ask her what she thinks. πŸ™‚
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Oh I don't think he is a bad guy per se, although in my experience the more polished the lover, the more of a player he is. I think men should plan dates and do nice things but who says it has to be cheesy?

See to me, all of that seems like forced intamcy and well, I've said it, cheesey. Almost like he didn't trust her or himself, he lacked creativity and confidence to put himself on the line, so he just did really typical things that society deems romantic. I don't find stuff like that romantic. I find it cheesy and embarrassing and I hate being embarrassed. HATE it!

I also don't like weddings. I don't understand why people have big flashy weddings when it is the most intimate moment of your life. I don't understand why people want all these people, some of whom they barely know, present for such a complete moment of love and honesty. To me, that moment should happen in private. You can have a party if you want after, but the moment of saying vows ect should be private and completely honest. It should be the moment when you are at your most bare.

But I tend to be very private about my feelings. They are not for public consumption. πŸ™‚

I think romance to me is in spontaneous moments of intimacy (not sex the real meaning of the word intimacy) between two people. Romance is the secrets of the moments we create together. That is why I find less traditional things more private, more intimate, and more romantic.

I just trust men that value the geniune over the tradition. The most romantic moments of my life have been spontaneous moments or spontaneous gestures of affection.
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* romantic winter picnic in his apartment.... bring in flowers...lay out a blanket...have sandwhiches and dessert and drink wine or beer.....just chatting....not very expensive...but super romantic maybe get a cool old movie to watch...

Wouldn't that seem weird? I would find it really weird. I know my roomie will find it weird. She is very run and the site of anything too much type of person. I will ask my friend tonight. Maybe we will do some drunk posting since I am taking wine to her place. lol!
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hahaha....little sparrow you are funny...im looking forward to the drunk postings by the way

anyway, I have to agree with Sparrow....she nails it....all that stuff is just too cliche....i mean yea its nice...but remember....we went out on TWO dates...TWO. Shes not my fiance...shes not even my gf...i want her to like me for me...not because of waht I do for her...otherwise its fake. And me and her have kind of touche don this subject at dinner...and i told her love is not about gifts, money or any of that...its abotu conncection between 2 people...What, shes going to REALLY fall for me if i buy her 4 dozen roses ...come on. Yes I agree, romance is good...of course it is...im not saying it isnt....but its way way way way way too soon to be picking her up in a Limo, with champagne in the back and all that....thats not my style .....id rather pick her up in my car and have a genuine sincere deep conversation.

all that other stuff is just not me....i mean im very romantic..im all about treating a woman like she deserves to be treated..but in my own way where its personalized to her...not that I have to pick her up in a limo w/ flowers, and a chef in the back cooking us meals while our heads are out the sun roof. If a girl goes home and sais "yea he was nice but he didnt pick me up in a limo, he didnt get me flowers, etc"... then tahts not teh girl for me. And she aint like that...Im all about a girl getting to know me and liking me for me...not liking me for the things im doing.
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throw her money and tell her to buy what she wantsβ€” What? Thats not manly. I mean if it works for you thats great...but thats not my style

Of course im nto being as romantic as i could...its our 2ND DATE. WE WENT ON TWO DATES...THATS IT. We're still getting to know eachother...and so far everything is going very very well. Im not about to try to buy her love...no way. Thats not me at all. Im never going to throw money at a girl and say buy waht you want.
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yes, but the shoes was more of a xmas gift...i wasnt trying to buy her with 75 $ shoes..i didnt plan on getting her anything...It wasnt like i had a plan to take her to the mall and buy her something .....i went in there and i listened to what my heart said. My heart said taht shes been having a tough time at work, and she has been very stressed and I wanted to get her an xmas gift so i did. Thats it...its over and done with. And she didnt know I was going to buy them until the guy was scanning them. totally different.
And you know waht...i probably woudl have done it for one of my regular friends that I have no interest in. Thats the way I am.
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* it seems like you do not like anything that anyone would plan at all?

Not necessarily. I just don't like all the bells and whistles. You know?

I think early stages of dating are all about getting together and getting to know to know each other. Dinner dates are more than appropriate for this stage of dating. As a general rule, I prefer ?doing? dates otherwise known as activity dates. For example, tickets to a concert of a band I like would rate high on cool date list. I would know he likes the music I like (plus) and that he has been paying attention (big plus) to things I like.

I have a really hard time sitting watching tv or sometimes movies because my mind needs to be actively engaged. So things like going to a museum or gallery can be really fun. Since it is winter, ice skating despite being crap at it or maybe because it is, can be really fun especially if it involves hot chocolate.

As a girl who has been flown to NYC for NYE ?. One of the most romantic dates I have ever been on involved going for ice-cream. Not because NYC wasn't nice, but because of the connection I made with the ice-cream date. It isn't so much WHAT you do, it is WHO and HOW that counts.

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OKAY! I just talked to my roomie cause she walked by. She said, much to my surprise, that the picnic on the floor would be romantic. It was thoughtful, not too much, and creative. She said she could understand why I thought she would be out the door on that one but she said as long as she liked the guy it would be a go. If she wasn't in to him, it would be too much.

I also asked her about dinner out and bringing flowers to the table. She said that would be uncomfortable. I asked her about it as a follow up to the picnic date and she said flowers again?!? No way! That would be too much. Needs to be spaced out more.
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you can when you havent seen the girl in 5 months...

see the thing is that I would have done that for any one of my friends...if they tell me that they were having a bad week and we wound up at the mall, and they saw something they liked, i woudl be like "i got it"...i did that to my friend a few months ago...she was depressed over soem guy so we hung out and wound up at barnes and nobles, and she was about to buy soem book and i told her I got it. Thats the way I am...i dont like to see my friends upset...i try to help as much as possible...im a giver...thats it.

But with this girl...Sparrow is right. For now, everything is good. Were still getting to know each other...dont forget..im still in school...i do 12 hour days including classes and hospitals...so i dont have a lot of time on my hands to plan a lot of things. If dinner on the weekend is all i can do for now, then so be it. The good thing about it is she graduated form the same exact program as me...so she knows how insane it is and how little time I have. This program is seriously crazy. There is no time for nothing.

I was thinkig of asking her to go to little italy with me in NYC or the body exhibit but I dont think she can take the cold for taht long. I mean il talk to her but she does not like the cold. She said at dinner that in the winter she loves to just hang out in her bed at home. She does not like the cold at all...so to ask her to walk around a frigid NYC with me, may not be the best idea. But I have a lot of plans when the weather gets nice...like taking night trips to the beach...i got a lot of ideas...it sjust im so busy with school and its -20 degrees out every day
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* WE WENT ON TWO DATES...THATS IT. We're still getting to know eachother...and so far everything is going very very well.

You see that is the thing. It has only been two dates. Things that are okay further down the relationship line aren't okay at this point. It has to do with the level of intimacy in the relationship.

PLUS, I think it is more important that Denny represents himself in this relationship. When they are ready, I think he should sing/play music for her. (this is one of my huge turn ons. 😒) BUT not before they are ready.