FINALLY!

k.. so this morning my libra calls me when he gets off of work at 3AM (a bit drunk).. and starts in with.. "I want to see you so bad but I am scared and I am scared for all the RIGHT reasons". He said "you don't know how much I love and respect you. I know you think I have a lot of other women but I don't, I promise I don't have anyone who I hold in the regard I hold you in. I respect you so much. I may have others I talk to, but they do not compare to you". He said, "just to kiss you would be an honor to me, that would be like a huge bow on the perfect present." He said, "I care so much about you and love our friendship and I don't want to do anything to hurt that". He said, "I love you in so many different ways it amazes me, I love you as my best friend, I love you as a lover, I love you for all that you mean to me, and I love you in another way (not sure what that was about). He said, "I have never felt this way before it is a protective love and I am scared to touch you, very scared". He said he would spend three days with me and would not want to even leave the room to get food or anything.. just talk the whole time and shoot tissues in the waste basket. He said that is what he wants three days with me. As he was driving home from work he said "I wish you lived closer to me bc I would be on my way to your house right now and I would get in the bed with you and would let you keep me warm. He said I might get a little naughty but you could put me back in line". OMGGGGG!!

I was speachless! Actually I thought I was dreaming because it was so perfect, I am still skeptical.. We spoke this afternoon and I was still in a daze.. actually was struggling to find words to speak. Finally after all this time!!!!

He also said he is still doing to libra thing, and being analytical and stuff about the distance, and marriage.. I am like, why is this dude thinking about marriage NOW!! He said he knows I don't want to get married again so what would be the purpose of starting?

I just wrote him an email telling him to chill out on the marriage and distance tip and lets take things one day at a time, especially since we have not even kissed yet. First things first!

He also was very descriptive about a few things he is planning to do to me.. WOW! This just might be the best birthday I ever had! I told him, it could be St. Patricks day, I wouldn't care.. I am just so excited to be able to see him again.
😉

Wow, that is awesome, but be careful because he might be using his charm without even realizing it. This bit me in the ass big time when I went to see my lady Libra friend this last week. Our last phone conversation before I bought the ticket was somewhat similar to what you describe. If the words "No expectations" ever come into play, please, please understand that when a Libra GUY says no expectations, a lot of times they really mean no regrets and don't even realize it.

I have been thinking about describing this trip to see my Libra friend but I my head is not clear enough to be nuetral on it and I wonder if there is enough room on the server.

Good luck, and good job keeping him in check about the distance and marriage thing. When we really do like someone we start analyzing all of the things that fall under a relationship and forget what is going on right now.

Thank you Nic for the heads up.. I will keep monitoring him over the next few days and see how it goes. This afternoon when we spoke I asked if he remembered our early morning conversation. He said, "Yup, vividly". I said "whatever truth serum you took last night you need to bring that with you for my birthday!" I told him I could not be causal with him because there is too much time and love between us, he said he didn't think he could not be casual with me either because of the same reasons.

I used the "no expectations" line as we both admit to never feeling this way for another and are walking into the dark, with our eyes wide open, holding each others hand. I don't know what to expect, all I know is I have to try. I don't have any other option.

wow Brats!!! How's cloud 9 feeling?? 😛

*smiles all day* 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

Nic.. you need to fill us in as soon as you can on your trip. I want to know what happened??

Whatever we calculate is based on marriage irrespective or society or culture. Its a global phenomena. 😛 Libra is all about partnership.

thelibran.."Whatever we calculate is based on marriage irrespective or society or culture"

What do you mean by this?

I'm so happy for you. It's great to be "in love". I've been there a few times and it's a wonderful feeling.

Im happy for you too 🙂

means we consider the possibilities of marriage when we are in love. Well this can be different for the ones who are driven by society.

but normally libra is born liberated from social and cultural bonds.

"but normally libra is born liberated from social and cultural bonds."

And then pass that transformation on to everyone else. The biblical archtype for Libra is actually Lucifer, the Greek Apollo. We are the "Light bringers" . Then Lucifer was banished from heaven to hell after he tried to steal the light from the sun (Spiritual enlightenment) and pass it on to mortals. Kind of a reacurring theme in our life.

uuhh.. Nic that is kind of scary seeing that Lucifer is the (the deceiver) devil... I hope libra's aren't as such.. otherwise I AM in trouble.

Well all things are progressing nicely with my libra.. after our long talk the other night/morning things were still a bit rocky as I called him later that night and he did not return my call and I started panicking. But I also know we had a VERY emotional weekend so I had to give him time to process everything. He called last night and we talked for another 2 1/2 hrs. I had sent him an email the night before telling how I felt about everything and really trying to be honest about my feelings for him. He didn't reply to that either, but we spoke about it in length last night. The first thing he said is "I don't want to ruin our friendship". So I said, "ok, that is fine, but you are not being truthful with yourself bc otherwise why would you even mention marriage to me if you only wanted to be friends". I said "that makes no sense, but if that is what you want we will stay the way we are". He said "well what do you want?" I said, " I already told you in the email what I want and I spelled it out clearly, now it is about you letting me know what you really want". He said, "well I want us to give it a shot and see how it goes". I said, "ok, me too". So that is where we are now. He is slowly coming around, but WOW was this a long hard process. It has been exhausting to say the least. But I am smiling.. been smiling all day long thinking of some of the words he has been saying to me. Very nice and sweet, very different than our friendship, it's crazy.

Will keep ya'll posted.

Nic.. You need to give it up about your libra? We are dying to know?

wooohooo aqua we've been waiting for your update 🙂....good for you I say. Keep smiling!!!!!!!!

Just quickly I heard from my LIbra last night and we will spend the weekend together - wooohoooo here I go again but hey, he came to me - I kept my distance this time but apparently he'd been wanting to catch up with me for a few days LOL....looks like he's taken the last week and a half to think through what went down previously re: r/ship stuff...I dunno, but it was sooooo good to hear from him again 🙂

Hmmm anyway, this board has been a little too quiet but welcome back gemfox 🙂

Nic!!! definitely do tell - we've been wondering so come on give!!! please *bats eyelids*

Aqua, Chatz...

I was waiting to cool off and think about things before I wrote about it, otherwise I might have been a bit unfair to her. It was a really wierd trip, I am still confused by her and haven't talked to her since I got back on Friday night. She had a busy weekend, but still, I called she didn't answer so its in her court now. Sorry, getting side tracked. The internet has been down at work lately, if it isn't tonight ill update you all.

By the way, Lucifer isn't the deciever he is the light bringer. The devil is the deciever and they are two different symbols in the bible. Lucifer was banished to hell by god because he didn't want Lucifer enlightening the people. Lucifer was one of the top ranking angels, up there with michael before he tried to enlighten the humans. It is more that aspect that represents Libra. The greek archtype is the Greek God Apollo.

Lucifer (light bearer) = Satan (the Accuser) He was an arch angel until he tried to rebel against God. God dismissed him from Heavend and sent him to sit on the world. When he was thrown out of Heaven, he was renamed Satan, which also means "adversary to God".

So, Lucifer and Satan are the same . Theology 101 is now over. 🙂

nic, see how we feel all the time?? lol....but you take it in your stride - we could all learn a great deal from you, oh and we have to date hehehe.

We look forward to your update tonight if you can get on the net.

Aqua,
I am sooo happy for you. It seems the two of you will be happy for a very long time, since Libras perfer for their partners to be their frien above all things anyway...

I am really happy for you. In my experience with the Libran lad you are just about out of the woods.

Nic,
See you have been busy. Funny how Libra men can dish out so much and it is hard for them to receive some of the same treatment they give. Not just with you but in my experience with them - it is similar.

QS.. Where you been? Thanks for the kind words, you know how it is.. just keeping my fingers crossed at this point.

Professor HP74.. Thank you for clearing up our misunderstanding with your Theology 101 lecture.. I know Satan, Lucifer, The Devil has many names, shapes and forms. I am just hoping "a libra" isn't one of those forms.. as per Nic's post. (although my ex libra might fit the bill)...just playin'.... no i'm not 🙂

Bible is full of mistakes. Most humans dont even know themselfs and think they can understand others by reading some book. 😛

"Lucifer (light bearer) = Satan (the Accuser) He was an arch angel until he tried to rebel against God."

Your missing the point. Go pick up Sextrology at your local bookstore. I give up.

"See you have been busy. Funny how Libra men can dish out so much and it is hard for them to receive some of the same treatment they give. Not just with you but in my experience with them - it is similar."

I'll admit to that.

Ok, so retelling the Libra experience is going to take a bit of writing. Would you all prefer me to get a little creative with it and tell it like a story, or a chapter in a book rather or just re-count the thing?

I'm down for either.

Sorry for going back and forth but im just going to recount it, getting creative would require too much submersion and Im not really down for that.

Nic...we can only suggest, we would never think to "tell" you what to do....tell it as you feel you'd like to 🙂

hehehe

Nic, inspite of my comment. We love you guys all the same... It also seems tht if you bring things like this up to a libra they will think about and most likely agree to it if it has any truth in it. So, most time you guys seem to take suggestions well and turn it into critisism.

Aqua, been trying to sort out my life. Some changes are happening with me, as you can see on my weakness and loneliness post. Not all about the Libra, just my life in general.

oops, "and not turn it into critisism"

Queen,

No, I know what you mean, we do have a hard time taking what we dish out from time to time. A lot of time when we do dish something out we are trying to shed some light on something and if the point gets taken the wrong way both people are in for a long night. I think sometimes when it comes to emotional or anger stuff we see ourselves as an insturment, not human beings so we get surprised when the other person takes offense. A lot of times people don't understand how we can be so strong about something but not emotional about it at the same time.

My birthday gift from my libra..

k.. so he came down and stayed in a hotel that is right in front of my job. So I went to see him right when I got off of work Wednesday (yesterday). He got in about 4pm. We chatted a bit and I went home to get ready. We hooked back up about 7:30 and went to meet my friends at a lounge/restaurant/bar with a live jazz singer. It was perfect. We were a little late so several of my friends were already there. of course I got drunk and so did everyone else. he offered to pay for EVERYONES tab at the table. Then I had several friends come later and he offered to pay for them too.. WOW! The bill had to be over $ 200 there were 7 of us and that includes food and drink. So on top of a room rental he bought all the food and then took me out to eat today before he left. SOOO COOL. k.. anyway. I was drunkkkk, and as I got into his truck he kissed me and it was soooo perfect. We kissed when he got in and kissed the rest of the night. Went back to the room and made out for a bit. He was getting aggressive and then would say, "oh but I am supposed to be the submissive one here". OK.. I was a nervous ball of energy, but we just did a bunch of oral stuff, no intercourse then I feel asleep, left about 4:30AM, had to get up for work at 5:30AM.. went to work for a couple hours then said I was "marketing" the rest of the day and when to the room with him until 3pm. We made out a bit, watched TV etc.. and then I started getting sad.. bc I did not want him to go. We went to eat and talk at a bar then he left at 5PM. It was the perfect birthday gift. While we were making out and stuff and even after he kept asking if I was okay and how I was feeling. He could feel me tensing up as the clothes started coming off and he said, "Relax... I would never disrespect you". It was the perfect time.. All my friends loved him to death. My best friend said she thinks he is the one and so do I after this time we spent together. I just still do not know how he feels. He never said one time.. well except when he was leaving he said he loved me and I think he said it while we were doing stuff too. (still trying to piece together the sequence of events from last night, a bit of a blur).

I called him several times as he was leaving. I feel so vulnerable. He knows way too much about me now. I dunno what to do now..

He just called to let me know he got home safe and he had a great time. I told him my friends all called and said they love him, think he is great and really outgoing, sweet etc.. I said "you made a good impression on them". He said, "I am not worried about your friends, I am worried about impressing you". I said, "why, you don't have to impress me, I am already impressed". He said "well good". He seemed to be genuinely happy (in his tone of voice) tonight, so that is a great thing to me 🙂

Now that's the kind of birthday present I like to see!!! Brats you already have my point of view but look forward to seeing what the others have to say about this 🙂

But I am happy for you!!!!!!! You go girl!!!!!! 😛

"I dunno what to do now..."

Continue to be yourself. If he thinks that your insecurities are really strong he might start pealing back a little himself, afraid that eventually it is going to be too much for you. So, when you talk to him next just let him know how much it meant to you and how much of a good time you had and if you had it your way every night would be like that. Be subtle, be affectionate, let him know you simply appreciate him.

That sounds really similar to the trip I had with the Libra girl. It seems though that her insecurities and issues have gotten the best of her as I still haven't heard from her. I do really like her, but I am not going to sit by and let someone screw with me as a side effect of not being able to be comfortable with themself. Too bad, she's really missing out.

oh and one more thing...

...after I got off work and went to the hotel and hung out earlier today.. we started watching SCRUBS. Not sure if you all know what that is but they are showing reruns of this show often throughtout the day (hospital comedy). Well we just happen to catch the one where JD and the female DR.. (not sure of her name) but they decided to date.. and topic was "sleeping with my best friend".. they started making love everywhere.. kissing all the time.. saying cutsie stuff.. lasted for about a week, then something little set them off into an arguement and it quickly declined from there.. they decided not to see eachother.. actually they decided best-friends should NEVER date. It wasn't even a funny one.. it was really sad and I was about to cry.. he and I just sat there in silence we were both in shock that the ONE show we actually get to watch together was on the very same topic we were dealing with. When he called me tonight he said.. "I think I am done watching SCRUBS". I said "Yeah me too".. we were both spooked..

You are in there Aqua, you are in there.

oh.. and he is an excellent kisser.. did not even realize he had the tongue right in... he said he knows how to kiss so you don't realize its there.. WOW!! ..just daydreaming back on the kissing with gentle tugs on my hair... OMG!!!!

"the tongue right in"

The tongue "RING" sorry people

I am working on 1 hour of sleep. I must go so I can catch the end of Grey's Anatomy... then crash.

WOW AQUABRAT.... congrats.... finally things are moving in a positive direction. am happy for you. 🙂

yeah WOW!!!

Nic, yep, I think its her loss and sometimes we just can't fix some people 😢

Yup, it hurts me hero complex 😢

"..just daydreaming back on the kissing with gentle tugs on my hair... OMG!!!!"

I was totally cool with being single until you go and post this. Damn, what I would give right now to talk to a girl with my hands.

Ok Sublime where did I put your cover of "no woman no cry".

Im thinking back to the challenge you set the other day Nic...to one of our fellow readers/posters on here....what happened to that and then Im thinking why didn't she take the challenge?!!! How can she resist that challenge—? large bath tub was in amongst the conversation as I recall??

Sheesh come on already LOL 😛

"Yup, it hurts me hero complex"

I am sure you won't have any problems finding someone to tend to your boo-boo...

"Damn, what I would give right now to talk to a girl with my hands."

Damn, why you gotta go say something like that... Do all Librans just ooze this?!?

alcheme I doubt they even have to think about the things they say - it just comes out so damned good!!!

Yeah, that is just sooooo wrong... Damn, now I gotta go get me one. I was thinking perhaps an Aries or Leo, but when a man can just let that roll of the tongue without any effort and mean it, kind of blows all the rest away...

Damn! That sucks, cause everybody else has one. Oh, well... I am going to paint the town red this weekend (and blue and green and yellow and...). I just have to figure out how to pick one out...probably the one with all the girls drooling on him. No prob! I am Scorpio, I will conquer...

you go girl!!!! LOVE that attitude!!!

As I said yesterday...love is in the air or should I say LUST? lol

Good luck and report back to us with all the goss 🙂

Whoa. Yeah the easiest way to tell weather or not I am thinking about what I say is when I try to think to hard about it it doesn't come across as smooth.

I don't see the big mystery in it. All girls on some level are looking to be put under a dazzling spell. Weave it with your words and body language and no one can resist.

I was just thinking I could do with a scorpio girl right now. Scorpio or Virgo, just depends on what flavor of passion I am in the mood for.

"probably the one with all the girls drooling on him."

So the reason I wasn't on here last night much. I got a call just as night was setting in from one of the managers at my work, he was telling me there is a new guy out at one of the job sights close to where I lived. I asked if he knew who I was and he said no. I told him to come pick me up and we'll go out there, he has no idea who I am so I want to mess with him. Well he ends up not being there so I shoot a couple games of pool and am flirting with the concierge, she is just so damned adorable. And I here someone in the room mention it being ladies night down at the Whisky River.

So were off to the Whisky River and the guy I am with is in a relationship and he is pretty good about it, doesn't flirt beyond being polite. He keeps turning to me and saying stuff like "dude, go get yourself a girl and dance with her." And I keep telling him I don't need to have a girl to have a good time. Well, he's starting mess with me and starts calling me out like I am a wuss because I am not approaching any girls and what not. I was like "You just don't get it do you?" He wanted to know what I meant so I walked away from him and went to the corner of the bar near the dance floor and just stood there. Well, within a couple of minutes two girls walked up to me and we chatted for a while, they were a little tipsy and dancing up against me while I was talking to them and drinking my drink. I excused myself and went back over to my friend and just smiled at him. When you let them come to you, there is no quesitoning their intention.

I bet that gave you a wicked thrill too!!!

Nic, Marry me!!!

Hahaha! I can only imagine the guy's look when you came back.

"When you let them come to you, there is no quesitoning their intention."

Oh, nooooooo... I said "I am Scorpio, I will conquer"... And, he will come to me.

ooooh a proposal!!! wooooohooooooo 😛