Help solve this puzzle, please.

I firmly believe that astrology/horoscopes are an EXCELLENT tool to use in achieving self-awareness. Armed with knowledge of self is a MIGHTY possession in life's journey, I say.

BUT-

What if you are adopted and the adoptive mother will not reveal this fact to you but you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are in deed adopted. You have a birth certificate that you obtained without her knowledge but all it has on it is her name - not even the man that is "supposed" to be your father name is not on it! You've requested to see your birth certicate but she ALWAYS gives you an excuse - a half-assed one at that- one that insults your intelligence (I'm digressing).

What type of document could one get that contains vital info i.e. time of birth? A birth record? I am DESPARATE to get my hands on such a document so that I can fit the pieces together about me - why I think/feel/react/behave the way I do. I have contact with someone who can do a chart for me but all I know about myself is my B-Day and he needs more info to do a complete & accurate chart. Typing that last sentence just put me in such a funky mood....my heart is literally aching.

It is weird that I would rather know my time of birth than to lay eyes on the people who created me...I'm am so hungry to know all about me and what it entails to be a libra. I would like to know my moon sign....the whole 9 yards. What other sign may be in my chart...things like that.

Any suggestions?

PS - Please forgive any grammatical/spelling errors.
TIA

Hospitals do maintain a record of time and date if you have some idea where you were born. You can match your birth marks to the details in the hospital records during that years libra dates. You can give it a try.

Some astrologers can reverse calculate the precise time based on other incidents which happened in your past.

Hi TheLibran,

I do know where I was born (well, if I was told the truth about it). So, would I visit that hospital and request my birth record? What if they won't release it to me, then what?

Hi there Suvant,

You are a sweetie. I went to that addy and it is a paid/membership type of deal. Do you have any other resources for me?

I think the adoption was sealed. Are there any ways around this obstacle?

You can ask the hospital if they r willing to tell u the birth date and time. Try to explain them the reason. or get a detective do the job. 😉

Look at this guys:

"I am inside the building, I thought. I am those records
and I am sealed, buried alive. The society that withholds
those records is telling me that I have no right to myself.
Yet (the clerk) stood there casually holding my file."

I am REALLY sad now. I read this on a term/research paper someone wrote and posted to the net.

OMG, TheLibran, you are the bestest!

Why, oh, why did I not think of such a primitive thing— I feel rejuvenated now (actually my scales are topsy-turvy right about now).

Thanks!

am glad u got hope. u can always slip few green into the attendants pocket to get details. normal case, no hospital will deny ur right to know ur birth date and time. will consider u as an astrology freak. 😉

But if u want to know more, u can take these details to ur astrologer and get precise details abt ur parents and all.

Thank you, Suvant.

I do believe that I was born on October 12th. I just need to know the time & the right hospital (for sure).

I've been told by 3-4 people, at different times in my childhood, in my family that I was adopted and that she is not my "real" mother. When I've confronted her with this information I was told to stop asking questions and that she's the only mother I'll ever know! Now, logically, a person who is my true biological mom would'nt have made such a statement. I don't know why she chooses to hide this matter from me - I love her MORE than any birth mom b/c she CHOSE me. That, takes a special individual in my book.

Oh, my dearest Suvant, if it were so simple as to just utter those words to her and receive the info I want for doing so. It's just not. I fear she'll go to her grave with that info. She even has my brothers all mummed about it and I KNOW that they KNOW I am adopted - My youngest brother is 13 years older than me. They DID NOT see their momNobody will betray her and confide in me. It makes me wonder exactly what were the circumstances of my adoption? Maybe she is my aunt or something like that...who knows?

church will have some records if ur parents were christian. ur blood group has to match with ur parents in some ways (am not quite sure how tat goes), or u can even go for a dna test. Sometimes its wise not to know. But you can ask for ur birth time and date.

"I don't know why she chooses to hide this matter from me - I love her MORE than any birth mom b/c she CHOSE me."

Tell her this, then explain to her that you want to know where you were born weather she shows you the birth cirtificate, relays the information to you or you have to go behind her back and figure it out on your own. Tell her you completely understand where she is comming from but it isn't going to stop you from getting what you want. Chances are she will just give it to you or tell you the info on it.

Besides if you are over 18 use your ss card to request a new/replacement cirtificate.

oops, someone beat me too it.

TIA, I was given up for adoption when I was a year old. Once the adoption is official and granted, all birth records are sealed and a new birth certificate is created. My parents never withheld the fact I was adopted, but opted not to tell me who my biological mother was until I was 18. I did, by accident, stumble across the name of my biological father a few months ago. I was searching for my own information on www.publicdata.com and came across my birth mother's marriage certificate. At first, I figured it was the marriage certificate to her current husband, but it turned out to be to her first husband, which was my biological father.

TIA, before you start your investigative search, make absolutely sure that you are ready, emotionally and psychologically. My situation is different than yours because I knew my entire life that I was adopted and my parents didn't keep that from me. I'm 32 years old and just recently found out my biological father's name and it didn't phase me - I think it's because I have all the love and support from my family that many would envy and I didn't go searching for his name because I felt something was missing from my life.

If you primarily want to know your exact time of birth, you could go to the county courthouse in which you were born and look at archives. Some hospitals released births in newspapers. You might even be able to contact the hospital and ask for your file as it is public record. The only thing is because you were adopted your records might have been sealed and became obsolete because of the official adoption paperwork.

Good luck, and again, make sure you are absolutely sure you are ready to find out what you are seeking.

ok, i'm off to bed - painkiller is wearing off.

Just wanted to say, "Thanks!" to everyone who took a moment to reply.

Everything went well, suvant. thanks for asking. 🙂