I have sent THAT email (Page 2)

he didnt call, he text me and we chatted online....think he's feeling me out first LOL.

QS I think yours just needs a lot more time

Nice, Chatz! Yeah, pulling the ol' acts like nothing happened routine.

And, really, girls, I don't NEED nic', I just know if I disappoint one or the other of you I'm on the receiving end of being clawed or stung. NEITHER sounds appealing. And you are BOTH great women. (We'll keep nic' from getting the big head. YOU TWO can have the big heads!).

(The windy city or down under? The windy city or down under? The windy city or----flips a coin----)

LOL...flattery will get you everywhere!!!

*thump thump, thump, thump*

(heart beating)

Poor little Atom - two women fighting over him, well actually there may be 4 and we have to compete with a Libran!!!! Yikes!!!

***QS I think yours just needs a lot more time***

Time is something I don't have a lot of. We were supposed to be friends. Wasn't asking him to decide anything Gosh!I know he isn't able. Just wanted to know where his head was about my sudden change of feeling is all. Gawd. Who cares, I'm a going on a date with an Aries and a Cancer this weekend, oh and my gals.

I will be very busy, emotions just about gone too.

Atom, the windy city... I have heads!!!

Well I do have some kinda tail too!!! 🙂

Poor little Atom - two women fighting over him, well actually there may be 4 and we have to compete with a Libran!!!! Yikes!

Ain't nobody fraid of no Libran 🙂

***Nice, Chatz! Yeah, pulling the ol' acts like nothing happened routine.***

Normal for a Libra man!!!

LOL..ok well its a bit of a flight to come here Atom *admits defeat* Grrrrrrrrrrrowl!!! LOL

Yeah QS I know - its great though that he WANTED to chat.....baby steps and I am so grateful that I have not lost my friend.....I know though, I won't be able to keep my hands off of him if we see eachother...he'd know this - bugger!!!

Dilemma

Chatz, and that is OK now that you know where he stands. If you can check your emotions. If not, you might not want to see him for awhile longer, unless in public (out) just so you won't end up where you don't want to be.

Yup I understand......tough times to come yet but at least he's not walking away as such 🙂

I will stay away and won't bug him but man I miss the idea of knowing we'd normally hook up on the weekend and next week.....grrrrrrrr what have I done? LOL

Be strong Chatz, Be strong!!

You girls are fun and sweet. You've narrowed the odds some; I'm growing farther apart from Libra Girl---will try to post "dinner results" soon---let's just say, a very similar experience to Chatz'---THEY DON'T KNOW HOW NICE THEY HAVE IT 'TIL IT'S GONE.

Chatz, what kind of Australian beer to you recommend I down as I feel sorry for myself for a minute or two?

And HB to your baby, QS. How awesome! A 4 year old will keep you busy!

I'll go to your dinner post shortly but a beer— Definitely a West End Draught 🙂

I'll look for that beer and give you a cheer.

Chatz.. You guys talked recently? How are things now, friendly? Gotta pull back those feelings now and show him the "friend" side w/o bene's right.. QS? Show him you are strong and can keep your hands to yourself. He will be intrigued by your strength and will become confused again.. if you all are planning to meet.

If not, and you all talk on the phone as friends..mention dates and other guys at work, that will kick your mind into "friendship" mode and will jump start his into "panic".. I bet. Do it in the name of "friends".. like you need some advice on this guy who likes you.. they hate that, if they really like a girl, and if they are not sure, this will be a sure sign to him..

I had to do this last weekend with my libra.. he is hanging with his female friends too much and it is making me a bit insecure, so I went out Friday night and the next day told him about this guy I met who asked to date me, and I let the guy know I was seeing someone. But then I thought about it and was not sure if I was "seeing somone" exactly, bc we never made this concrete. I went on to say, that I could call my girlfriend, who introduced us, and tell her to let him know I am completly single, if telling him I was "seeing someone" causes a problem. My libra totally missed the point and kept asking questions about the guy and what he said.. NOT THE POINT, so I had to changed the subject, bc he was making me mad.. the point was.. are we an "item" or not. Went over his head, but I know he is still thinking about it.. however, I will not get the chance to have another "break-down" moment until he starts drinking again... He quit for Lent, like he is Jewish or something.. NOT! (he is not even religous) Said he is planning to start up again after Easter.. so I guess I am going to have to wait until then.. when he is sober it is hard for him to tell me his true feelings.. so oh well. I guess I have been patient this long.. what is a few more months huh!

LOL...OMG are these guys all the same— drink is a big thing in getting them to open up - sheesh!!

Yes Aqua I did speak to my Libran again last night - 2 hours (shock, horror, on the phone!!!!!)...first he caught me on msn and asked if we could talk.....him being home on a Friday night all alone again shows me he's been doing a LOT of thinking!!! We will see eachother tomorrow night to talk - OMG!!!

Aqua him asking about the guy and what he said? makes me feel he's somewhat jealous maybe but I can see how that makes you mad...mine did exactly the same!!

Oh and yes I went out on the date last night before chatting to Libra - he must have a radar of some sort as this is the 2nd other date I've had since knowing LIbra and both times he's contacted me that same night....had a great night out though - he's a Gemini - dunno what it is about me and Geminis - grrrrrrrr had I known!!! LOL. Anyway it was just a "friends" date...nothing more will come out of it 🙂

Your LIbra is definitely a hard one to work out Brats...I don't know how you have SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much patience but I am still learning from you so thanks for the tips.....why do we do this to ourselves? remind me somebody??

Cloud 9.. that's why Chatz!! OMG! I can not believe you all chatted for 2 hours last night!! You go! Now tell me again why we are hooking up tomorrow night— Just remember stay strong girly, "just friends".. no bene's!!!

New Gem guy. Keep him on the "just in case" list.. just in case of an emergency.. break glass and use phone number.. Gem's are charming as well, it's just not like libras.

I'm on Cloud 9 again, my libra soothes all my fears🙂 I have finally found the person who fits me like a glove.. purrrrrfect. Everyday is a new suprise.. I learn something new about him or he loves me in some new quiet way, that I never expected. It is terrifying, but elation... all at the same time.. *brat sighs*

*Now tell me again why we are hooking up tomorrow night— Just remember stay strong girly, "just friends".. no bene's!!✨ ummmm apparently to TALK lol....I'll try to stay strong but its those eyes, those lips, that voice...you know the drill LOL....I will be good 🙂

Glad things have picked up for you Brats...really glad...you've certainly learnt a lot but from what you write, there's always something new *rolls eyes* LOL. Please tell me my little brain won't be in for too much more head games?? *laffs*

Anyway, its all good - we're all smiling 🙂

Aqua, I haven't heard from my Libra friend, who I am thinking does not want to be friends either. However, check out my "Cancer or Aries" thread. I went out with a wonderful Aries last night. Wonderful time, going out with a Cancer... Emotions for Libra -- gone!! Wanted to remain friends, but I just can't bring myself to contact him, as I made the last two efforts and he normally never has a problem with contacting me. After the restrictedd call, now that I think was either him or his ex. Haven't heard a peep.

Chatz.... It will definitely be harder than you think to just talk. Been there with my friend.. He wants to talk and we never quite got to the points at hand... 🙂 Be strong little grasshopper!

OH GOD!!!! only an hour to go - thanks for telling me it will be harder than I think - I already think its gonna be REAL hard.....he called me up last night too for another 2 hours!! that's 3 times since I sent that email...unheard of before.

I don't get it...bloody men LOL

I can't understand since sending the email that he spent last Saturday night and this Friday night alone at home when he could have gone out - instead he now talks to me.....all he has to say is he's happy to go exclusive...that's all it would take for the time being - I don't want to share but the thing is, I wasn't sharing anyway....why did he make me think that? grrrrrrr. Last night when talking with him he was really down on himself....I haven't seen him like this before and it doesnt suit him 😢.....guess I might find out more when he comes over.....ok time for me to do the finishing touches!!!

Mwah!!

A "bloody man" says to Chatz, "Pull back. Pull back." (It's TWO HOURS of your time each time, dahlin'!).

QS, too bad about your Libra friend---he's missing out. So whatcha think of us Aries? (A very good experiment for you).

Yeah Atom - thanks....I do have to make myself disappear for a few days - he can miss me....I can't play this game forever and a day...last night was nice, we just talked and yes, JUST talked 🙂

But now comes a few days of silence - argghhh!!!

QS...yes, his loss and you are a gorgeous woman - one day he'll realise what he missed out on and again, HIS loss and you've moved on 😛

Thanks Atom and Chatz, he will soon realize he missed out on a great friend if nothing else and of course a great sex partner. As he has told me recently, "You bring something out in me that noone else can". I replied with a wink and a sexy voice, "its my thing".

Anyway, the Aries is ver nice I will slowly get to know him, excited about it too as he will be the first Aries I have ever dated and so far so good.

Chatz, you just talked, excellent. Atleast yours is talking to you. Mine was always calling and willing to talk when he had problems with the ex and was feeling down, but now that I need to talk, he can't or won't... Sux... Really starting not to like what he is looking like to me these days...

yes one day he will realise...in time...that glorious time factor!! Grrrr....it does sound though, that you are quite happy pursuing other gentlemen and that's better than some guy who won't give you what you need/want and let's face it, friendship is a beautiful thing 🙂

Ummmm yeah mine has NO problem talking and/or chatting to me about anything - in fact, he encourages and continues to say "please call me if you want to talk about anything"....he's a genuine guy - its just that he can't or won't give me any commitment and I wish he'd rather cut me dead than to continue to have me hanging onto perhaps false hope...I could call him up at midnight and he'd not complain - THAT is one of the things I love about him but I don't want to continue to wonder and worry about him continually going on singles sites keeping his options open - I don't get it...he has me ready, willing and waiting.

Like I said, Im going to disappear for a few days - yes Atom, again, it'll be very hard to do but I've done it before....I know he'll start wondering but I am beginning to detest this game - it shouldn't be this hard.

Chatz, I know what you mean. Libras love being there for people and giving advice. I used to be able to call my freind wenever too. I remember one night I couldn't sleep and decided to call him as a joke. It was 4am I said something like "get up I can't sleep" He laughed and he talked to me until I finally fell asleep. We had a special kind of friendship, even before the emotions...

I just think this is rude and inconsiderate at this point and I don't deserve it and I am starting to resent him. Something I never wanted to do.

Oh nooooo now you've squashed even that little that I might have left with being good friends LOL..yikes!!! I thought I was speeeeeeeecial LOL.

Hmmmm QS...honestly, I think you're much better without the mindgames...there's certainly no need to not be friendly with you, unless you punched him too hard and he went down like a girl— LOL. Very uncharacteristic to be "rude and inconsiderate"....perhaps he just doesnt know what to do *shrugs*....but then again, they're not children, they're grown adults - sheesh, now Im making excuses for them!!!

I don't know....all I can suggest is continue going out with the others....Im going to pull my horns in and go out with the gemini again yikes!!! What am I doing?? I dunno, but I can't sit at home every night waiting for my spunky LIbran to make a move and it breaks my heart to know he's going through something yet won't open up about it, and spends every freaking night sitting online chatting to strangers (I do understand that part by the way and Im good with it) to avoid real life. It would make me so happy if he were to actually turn to me instead of always telling ME to turn to him or ME to call him.....I have broken the ice so to speak so many times....he knows where I am - he can come and get me if he one day realises that maybe I was worth holding onto - we all know I'll keep the door open (damn, so does he....he can buy time grrr)

QS you have been my inspiration and you obviously have been to your LIbran friend too in the past by him being able to turn to you.....I don't have a clue as to what they think - I think half the time they don't either LOL....guess its not reallyl up to us to figure them out *shrugs*

Im more lost than ever - as Nic said.....its about conquering and Im ready for that...just want a LITTLE hint that its gonna be ok - otherwise I really need to start detaching my emotions and for a little Leo that's gonna be so hard 😢

Chatz has horns? Yeah, Gemini will be fun for you.

Thanks Chatz. Yeah, letting go, letting go. He isn't worth my feelings being hurt because in the past he was so much more to me and a whole lot more considerate. I don't like this recent him at all and I hate to resent people so it is best for me to walk away. I still hold a little hope for the friendship part, because he was there for me when I was going through other things, I will admit that. Took me to the hospital and bought me home, when I had surgery. Picked me up from the airport when I got home sick from Vegas. I shared a couple things with him regarding my ex and how he gets under my skin sometimes. So yeah, I miss that and if he wants to remain friends he has 30 days to let that be known, or I will cut my losses and not relate to him at all. Trust me, and that is already way too much rope, I hope he don't hang himself.

On a better note. Aries are charming as well, very thoughtful and sweet.

OMG well guess who I am seeing on Thursday night?? yup you guessed it 🙂

LOL QS - I do like the 30 day cut off period....bit like he has 30 days to pay up....*giggles*

Aries are charming as well, etc? yes, I've not met a bad one yet but never dated one....now that could be fun finding out - nah, I'll give Mr Libra some time yet...he's coming around slowly 😛

Oh I love coming on here every morning - it makes my day!!!

Chatz said "if he one day realises that maybe I was worth holding onto"

What? Girl wake up. You must turn this around. It should be him one day realizing that maybe he's worth holding onto. Not you. Of course, you are worth holding onto. This is why he keeps staying in contact with you. However, I remember reading one time you writing that he said he wasn't ready for a relationship but wanted to continue with things the way they were. You know something, that really bothered me when I read that. Yes, he was being honest, but he wants his cake and eat it too. He must earn that privilege, don't you think? It looks like he's coming around, but in a way, he still knows you are waiting for him. He shouldn't be so certain of this, which he is. He should have to prove himself to you, not that you have to prove of your loyality to him. Sometimes in life the very thing we're looking for has been standing right in front of us all along.

Oh Mystical thank you so much - that was such a lovely post and I really appreciate that. I forgot to mention that we have spent a lot of time talking lately and he understands that I am not prepared to give him any more than friendship and just hanging out (nothing physical at this time) unless his mindset changes (no, there was no ultimatum, etc, but he understands where Im at).

The last thing I want to do is lose his friendship as it means a lot to me....and through all of this, he has been there for me if I needed to talk, etc...he's not pushed for anything more and we are keeping it out of the bedroom 🙂 He also understands that there is a possibility that I will also date others now and if something/somebody better comes along, I'll not hesitate to move forward.

*Sometimes in life the very thing we're looking for has been standing right in front of us all along* So very true and the ball is well and truly in his court.

***OMG well guess who I am seeing on Thursday night?? yup you guessed it***

Are you going out together?

yes to a public place believe it or not!!!

Just a casual meal out and talk - THAT is what I wanted right from the start and now I finally get it LOL

Chatz,

I'm glad to have been of assistance. Just make sure you don't send mixed signals. He must earn your respect as I'm sure you had to do regarding him. By all means, keep things on the friendship level and leave sex out. Sex sometimes complicates matters. Right now, you have to re-build the friendship and he must know he can't take you for granted. When a woman is too easy for a man, he doesn't value her because the chase is gone. There is no need for mind games, but sometimes, a girl has to show she doesn't need the guy for him to realize what he could missing out on.

You say the two of you have been talking a lot lately. Yeah, I read that the two of you had talked for 2 hours two days in a row. This guy knows right where he has you. You have to be a little unpredictable to keep him guessing. Remember he has to earn your respect (which I'm sure he already has) but don't make things too easy for him.

Chatz, I think that is a definite acomplishment!!!

P-p-p-public p-p-p-place—?

Yesssssssssss believe it or not!!!! Why now?? who knows!!!

It should never have been THAT hard....I have a feeling this guy is a masochist coz I have to spell EVERYTHING out the hard way.

Chatz, they all seem to be masochists; male and female.

OK I saw my LIbran last night - OMG is all I can say!! We'd done a lot of talking and chatting and texting over the past week and I must say I felt very uncomfortable seeing him after the email I sent him but OMG we were just like nothing ever happened.....we talked, he sat close to me, put his arm around me, made me laugh (blush even - he loved that - grrrrrr) and again, he told me so much stuff and whatdyaknow, I told him a lot more about me........he was like a sponge.

OMG those kisses (yes in public)!!

One thing that perplexes me is that he still isn't ready for a "r/ship" but won't let go of me either and he said after one of those kisses which seem to last for hours (mmm mmm) "I think I've died and gone to heaven"...Now THAT does not help me when Im trying to keep my feelings in check!!! But OMG it was nice to hear.

Might have to hang on a little longer yet *sigh*.....how can I let go now— sheesh 😛

Chatz, any reference to your email, and how you see things?

Yes....we talked about that and he understands my position, hence going out in public and the phone calls, etc.

He admitted that he's not seeing anybody else at this present time so I dunno why he made me think he was.

aaaaaaaaaand shock horror, he actually text me to tell me he was running late to meet me!!! Oh I don't know if its a LIbra thing or not but he is ALWAYS late!! and not just for me, for EVERYTHING!!

But he had the decency to let me know rather than me sit there thinking he wasn't going to show up - you have to understand, this was in public first time!!

It's unsolicited effort and so it is all good, sweetie.

Some people are always fashionably late and Libra men are quite fashionable, as a whole...

Thank you and yes I feel its all good too.....will continue to ride this out....5 months today since I met him - wow, we've gone through some stuff!!

Oh my. Chatz is blushing again.

Good for you Chatz, Okay now that kind of reminds me how it happened with my ex and I. At one point I was tired of wondering and stepped away and the next minute he was there and doing everything I wanted, the only difference is he shocked me and wanted the commitment when he got it together. But he wasn't damaged goods. So, this is a very good sign... You Go Girl!!! You and HP seem to have a great Libra story ending.

Hehehehe I do hope so.....I think its still going to take quite a long while but I know he's not going anywhere and we'll continue to see one another.....trying to stay calm and not worry anymore as there's nothing to worry about...guess he'd walk if he wasn't interested and he hasnt through all of this 🙂

Wooohoooo *dances*

LOL