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Chatz... "fascinating"

Agreed.

thelibran.. also.. maybe one day you will cross paths with an aqua and not know what to do with her.. then I can oblige you.. and I'm sure Chatz will do the same for the "leo" in your life.. I think she's a leo...

See we got you covered.. well at least with two signs anyway..

OMG. This is so sweet. Thank you chats and aquabrat. Am not brokenheart. Remember a libran always keeps his options open unless he is completely in love. Aries was just planA. I got a confusion going on with a malaysian libran girl(confusion is that she is a muslim. i dont have anything againt islam but am done with religion and its foolishness). Then I got an old student turned good friend gemini girl who is in love with me. I know she loves me. I do like her but if i try to pursue her, i may get in the middle of unwanted religious riots again(she is indian). I am not totally in love and am afraid to be. Its quite hard to come out of it if we are.

I met this german aqua girl last feb in KL and are good friends. I always like aqua but they always seems to be bit closed in the beginning. And i dont really try to pursue one when i feel they are not communicating well. How to start the conversation with an aqua— any tips will be appreciated. 😉

thelibran.. "How to start the conversation with an aqua—" I guess it would depend on what level you are at and where you want to take it. It is VERY hard for us to open up to anyone, so whether we have known you for a few weeks or several years you may have just about the same information. The determinant is how you approach us and your responses to us. The more understanding, patient and attentive you are, the more comfortable we will feel, the more information will be available to you. And also it is about knowing the right question to ask. We are pretty much open to sharing, especially over the phone when we don't feel all that intimidated. Often, if I am in front of a guy it is hard for me to formulate my words, so I don't say anything. He may take that as being aloof, but IT'S NOT! I really don't know the word for it, my mind just kind of goes blank, because I am actually in a situation that is real.. not imagined in my head. If I don't have a good plan in place, the guy will have to take the lead on the convo. Now, if I have a good plan in place and know the guy well, then I am all action oriented. I can handle just about anything he throws my way and can be pretty creative in my timing and what I will do with him.. We like to express ourselves doing more action oriented things instead of talking.. it can be overrated.. especially if you already know the guy well.

I wrote about this on the Aqua board. A guy had an aqua he did not understand.. someone said we live our relationships in our head.. this is true. The key is to NOT let us do that when your capable of tell us who you are. bc often we make up things to fit what we want a guy to be.. but that is NOT him at all, but that is what we want him to be.. This causes problems later in the relationship when he is NOT doing something we expect him to, because the guy in our mind would.. but he is not that guy.. Kind of complex. but if you gently guide her image of you into reality then she will love you for who you really are, and not for who she thinks you should be. My libra is really good at this.. when I am distant and start drifting off.. he pulls me back into reality by asking me what I am thinking about and not letting me say "I don't know". That instantly brings me back to what was going on in the moment. Usually I would NEVER tell a guy what I was thinking, but I felt I could trust him, so I would tell him.

A good place to start is by asking us deep questions about anything... life, love, sex, God... we like debating those interesting topics, gives us something to think about later... and remember if you are trying to get in there.. making us think about you later, is always a good thing..(good happy thoughts though..don't go arguing to prove a point) 🙂

I like how you can keep the options open!! I must learn this myself. Hmmmm well I am glad though thelibran that you are not Heartbroken......and yes I think you guys do find it extremely difficult to actually fall in love....have witnessed this first hand. Im now giving up on my Libran I think as if Im not important enough to spend a little bit of time on Xmas Day with then I can't possibly be important at all and friends with benefits? that's just gonna kill me.

So now I ask for tips on just how to date without emotions of any kind coz I dated this guy without many emotions - did all the right things and still no luck....argggghhhhh!!!!

Oh I do think you will be able to hold a very good conversation with anybody thelibran....no need to ask for advice....you are full of so much information, how can you possibly go wrong? espcially being Libran and all? LOL

lol... now since u hv mentioned u were dating him without much emotion, i guess he did sensed it and is staying confused on your state of mind. In a way we do sense that depth in the other person in some way(we feel it i guess. dunno how to expalain tat in words). That can be a reason. Say i meet a girl and i keep focused on one single thing- how genuine is her feelings towards me. For some reasons, i carry that John Nash(beautiful mind movie) attitude of "lets get straight to that fluid exchange programme since we both know we are trying to see how far it can go". Atleast me simply deduct that once am interested in a girl and she seems to be interested in me, whats the point in having coffee or dinner or drinks and staring at her eyes trying to psycho analyze each other. And once i get her on bed and satisfied my next quest is to find out how things can be if we start living together(basically spending more time in each others company than a few hrs in a week). Thats how I conclude if things can work with someone the way i want it. But then girls are way complicated and dont deduct like us. Libran girls do and I once had a solid reaction which almost scared me(tats other side of the coin). 🙂

lol....girls are not way complicated (well not that much anyway LOL).....nah, when I said without too much emotion, I meant I didn't act all clingy and co-dependant....Im sure though, that he knows Im way into him.......like I couldn't POSSIBLY not show him that!!! he makes it so Im like that when Im WITH him but what I mean is that when Im not I don't bug him, i.e. call, email, etc (you know, all the things I was told I shouldn't do LOL). I do sometimes send him little texts but not the mushy ones, just ones to let him know Im thinking of him, etc and he always replies within minutes and Im thinking why can't he send me one just from nowhere sometimes - it seems a one-sided thing but when we do get together he's full on 150% into me and gives me his full attention...Ijust don't get it. Going back to "spending more time in each others company than a few hours in a week"...THAT is the problem, we're still at the same place we were at 10 weeks ago so Im assuming (and I can only do that at the moment, assume!!!) that he only wants this kinda relationship with me and nothing more. Im going to see what happens over the next few weeks but I think 3 months by then is enough time vested in him if we still only see eachother once or twice a week or fortnight. Im loathed to have THAT talk with him as I've read all the posts of those who have dared to do so LOL. I guess this is a crappy time of the year to expect to see somebody more than the weeks preceeding with family commitments, etc, but like I wrote in another thread....if you care about somebody and you know that they're really into you, then you'd make just a little time out of your busy schedule to spend time with them or you'd cut them dead and put them out their misery but he keeps me hanging there and makes contact and even so far as to start calling me those cute names just when Im about to move forward just a bit and of course when he does contact me it starts all over again - its torture!!! LOL.

Blasted Libran!!! Stay tuned and I hope you all had yourselves a glorious Xmas....I personally drank way too much and ate even more....arggghhhh back to running tomorrow or the next day,hmmmm or the next *sigh*

Hey Chatz.. Glad to see you back.. hope your Xmas is going well.. Sorry about your libra.. You're good people, and this is crazy how hard this relationship thing is for girlz who actually care.. and are decent. I know it is hard to take the next few weeks to evaluate your position with him and give yourself some time, but I know after that time is up.. although it may kill you in the interim.. you will find you think about him less, you care less and you will be able to step back and evaluate it a little better.. your emotions are on attack right now and I know how that feels.. I am going to start a new thread to let you know what's been up with my libra and me.. revelations.. for 2007.. A New Beginning...that is what us girlz need. Luv u bunches!! *hugs*

Hey.. thelibran.. "lets get straight to that fluid exchange programme since we both know we are trying to see how far it can go"

Interesting concept.. I don't think you're alone in this one.. I think most men feel this way.

thanks brat....Im ok at this end and Xmas was excellent thank you - hope yours was too 🙂 Its all over here in Aussie land LOL.

my LIbran? yeah well he's too busy for me so up and on 🙂

xx