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Posted by nikkistarSo, the man doesn't have a clue on wearing a condom? He has to wait for the women to tell him to wrap it up? It is 100% up the woman to tell him?
Nope, I'm saying if he doesn't do condoms and you know you're not protected yourself, don't have sex. YOU say no. You're the one stuck with the consequences, not him. Therefore it is waaaaay more irresponsible of a woman to go ahead anyway than a man bc he won't have to go through the same shit you will.
A man doesnt have many personal dilemmas to solve if he knocks you up seen as men don't have the right to their children bc "it's a woman's body"... so we really have no saying here and no existential crisis pending cuz we had to decide to get an abortion. It's all on you.
Either way you swing it, a woman has the ultimate responsibility bc all the decisions are up to her once the seed is planted.
You can't have "my body, my decision" but at the same time let him hit it unprotected if your intention is to have an abortion if bad comes to worse.
That's rights without responsibility. Key word here being "it's my body".
Posted by Pandora101Posted by enfant_terriblePosted by Pandora101thats why I am saying there should be a bill to equal the responsibility what 2 people created.... the guy should not be off the hooks
it really takes two to tango, but only one should be responsible?
I agree 100%
If the same bill also says it's not the woman's decision alone to have the abortion since 'it takes two to tango'.
and you are fine with the consequences? like million babies born unwanted and raised by half-wit or unfit mothers on state welfare? paid from your taxes?
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I'm all for abortion.
I'm against All rights, no responsibility.
I believe abortion is immoral
But punishing women for it just because they're not ready for parenthood is extreme
I'm Catholic
But it's my personal belief that making it illegal is too harsh
Especially since it's not only the women who are involved
Their partners were also to blame
Not that I think it's unfair for these women
But I just think it's too harsh
Posted by enfant_terriblePosted by nikkistarSo, the man doesn't have a clue on wearing a condom? He has to wait for the women to tell him to wrap it up? It is 100% up the woman to tell him?
Nope, I'm saying if he doesn't do condoms and you know you're not protected yourself, don't have sex. YOU say no. You're the one stuck with the consequences, not him. Therefore it is waaaaay more irresponsible of a woman to go ahead anyway than a man bc he won't have to go through the same shit you will.
A man doesnt have many personal dilemmas to solve if he knocks you up seen as men don't have the right to their children bc "it's a woman's body"... so we really have no saying here and no existential crisis pending cuz we had to decide to get an abortion. It's all on you.
Either way you swing it, a woman has the ultimate responsibility bc all the decisions are up to her once the seed is planted.
You can't have "my body, my decision" but at the same time let him hit it unprotected if your intention is to have an abortion if bad comes to worse.
That's rights without responsibility. Key word here being "it's my body".
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Thanks for clarifying your statement. While I do agree that if a man only like "skin", that a women bares the responsibility of saying no to prevent pregnancy. I still have to play the devil's advocate.
That still completely absolves the man of any responsibility. Just because a man doesn't like condoms, doesn't mean he still doesn't share some of the burden. The only real way to prevent pregnancy is completely abstinence on both the man and the woman. Birth control, in any form, has a chance of failing. So the man, still has responsibilities PRIOR to actual pregnancy, and not allowing it to happen.
However, you are right, that a man, after pregnancy has no rights. And often men have lesser rights as a parent as well. That part, I know, and see. So I can't dispute that. But I will continue to dispute that men have no responsibility when it comes to sex, and lack of protection on both sides.
Posted by nikkistarPosted by enfant_terriblePosted by Pandora101Posted by Pandora101if they pass this bill, they shoud pass a bill about tracking the fathers down and make them not only pay for their children, but make them spend time with them
all the people who have the right to pass this bill are sure they can send their underage mistresses somewhere for abortion
why it has to be always about the women? make a bill for men as well
I mean the women didnt get pregnant just from the air.... as this bill suggesting
there are participants, where is the bill for them?
A dude will get you preggars but you suffer the biggest consequences if you don't make sure you are practicing safe sex.
Also, because you decide over your body (and the baby's), a guy has no saying in your decision to keep the baby (or not).
Ultimately a man's off the hook regardless if his reservations are moral, ethical or religious bc it's the woman's decision. That's why I don't understand how anyone can say it takes two to tango. As a woman, you have the ultimate responsibility in this matter BECAUSE a man has no saying and bc it is YOUR body.
So, the man doesn't have a clue on wearing a condom? He has to wait for the women to tell him to wrap it up? It is 100% up the woman to tell him?
I think not.
That is not to say, that condoms can fail of no fault of the man, and that your argument can be applied to those situations. But to completely absolve men of any responsibility as well, over procreation, and that it lays solely on a women, is being blind and stupid.
There are women and men, in this world, that have poked holes through condoms. There are men in this world, that have spread AIDS to partners for the hell of it. Both genders, have responsibilities. Not just women.
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Condoms are not 100% effective even when used responsibly. Neither is birth control.
come on guys, take full responsibility for your part 😏😏😏
Posted by TheRabbitPosted by Pandora101the only thing how to fight this nonsense is imho to go to the core: are the passers of this insane bill ready for the concequences? like million babies born unwanted and raised by half-wit or unfit mothers on state welfare? paid from their taxes?
I would go into the streets with banners saying that
they deciding about the minute of the human breats.... nothing further.... who is raising that child? who is funding it? do you need some unwanted babies, so your child would feel superiour to them?
the hypocricy is astounding
The unwanted children go into foster care.
If they aren't adopted, and they age out of the foster system, they more than likely end up in prison, where they become a source of revenue for the for-profit prison system.
A lot of these pols end up making money off unwanted kids.
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exactly.... sad 😢
how many children end up with parents and circumstances no child should ever experience? if they dont have a luck to find a proper adoptive/foster family, they are lost
if i may say, thank you for doing the right thing, for all of us who are just talking and not doing...
Posted by enfant_terribleYou can't have "my body, my decision" but at the same time let him hit it unprotected if your intention is to have an abortion if bad comes to worse.
That's rights without responsibility. Key word here being "it's my body".
Bill makes no exceptions for rape or incest victims (including minors).
So this isn't even about choice of sharing your body irresponsibly. This is about valuing an 5.5 week old embryo more than a human woman's rights to autonomy of her own body.
Read the bill before you keep sticking your foot in your mouth. You sound hella ignorant.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by nikkistarPosted by enfant_terriblePosted by Pandora101Posted by Pandora101if they pass this bill, they shoud pass a bill about tracking the fathers down and make them not only pay for their children, but make them spend time with them
all the people who have the right to pass this bill are sure they can send their underage mistresses somewhere for abortion
why it has to be always about the women? make a bill for men as well
I mean the women didnt get pregnant just from the air.... as this bill suggesting
there are participants, where is the bill for them?
A dude will get you preggars but you suffer the biggest consequences if you don't make sure you are practicing safe sex.
Also, because you decide over your body (and the baby's), a guy has no saying in your decision to keep the baby (or not).
Ultimately a man's off the hook regardless if his reservations are moral, ethical or religious bc it's the woman's decision. That's why I don't understand how anyone can say it takes two to tango. As a woman, you have the ultimate responsibility in this matter BECAUSE a man has no saying and bc it is YOUR body.
So, the man doesn't have a clue on wearing a condom? He has to wait for the women to tell him to wrap it up? It is 100% up the woman to tell him?
I think not.
That is not to say, that condoms can fail of no fault of the man, and that your argument can be applied to those situations. But to completely absolve men of any responsibility as well, over procreation, and that it lays solely on a women, is being blind and stupid.
There are women and men, in this world, that have poked holes through condoms. There are men in this world, that have spread AIDS to partners for the hell of it. Both genders, have responsibilities. Not just women.
Condoms are not 100% effective even when used responsibly. Neither is birth control.
come on guys, take full responsibility for your part 😏😏😏
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I already said this in my second response to him. And how that doesn't absolve men still.
Posted by tizianiI don't know anything about the bill but it already sounds like a terrible idea
American government has decided to cosplay handmaids tale.
Posted by nikkistarPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by nikkistarPosted by enfant_terriblePosted by Pandora101Posted by Pandora101if they pass this bill, they shoud pass a bill about tracking the fathers down and make them not only pay for their children, but make them spend time with them
all the people who have the right to pass this bill are sure they can send their underage mistresses somewhere for abortion
why it has to be always about the women? make a bill for men as well
I mean the women didnt get pregnant just from the air.... as this bill suggesting
there are participants, where is the bill for them?
A dude will get you preggars but you suffer the biggest consequences if you don't make sure you are practicing safe sex.
Also, because you decide over your body (and the baby's), a guy has no saying in your decision to keep the baby (or not).
Ultimately a man's off the hook regardless if his reservations are moral, ethical or religious bc it's the woman's decision. That's why I don't understand how anyone can say it takes two to tango. As a woman, you have the ultimate responsibility in this matter BECAUSE a man has no saying and bc it is YOUR body.
So, the man doesn't have a clue on wearing a condom? He has to wait for the women to tell him to wrap it up? It is 100% up the woman to tell him?
I think not.
That is not to say, that condoms can fail of no fault of the man, and that your argument can be applied to those situations. But to completely absolve men of any responsibility as well, over procreation, and that it lays solely on a women, is being blind and stupid.
There are women and men, in this world, that have poked holes through condoms. There are men in this world, that have spread AIDS to partners for the hell of it. Both genders, have responsibilities. Not just women.
Condoms are not 100% effective even when used responsibly. Neither is birth control.
come on guys, take full responsibility for your part 😏😏😏
I already said this in my second response to him.
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And I was agreeing and supporting your response with Evan woods funny tweet. No need to cry.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by nikkistarPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by nikkistarPosted by enfant_terriblePosted by Pandora101Posted by Pandora101if they pass this bill, they shoud pass a bill about tracking the fathers down and make them not only pay for their children, but make them spend time with them
all the people who have the right to pass this bill are sure they can send their underage mistresses somewhere for abortion
why it has to be always about the women? make a bill for men as well
I mean the women didnt get pregnant just from the air.... as this bill suggesting
there are participants, where is the bill for them?
A dude will get you preggars but you suffer the biggest consequences if you don't make sure you are practicing safe sex.
Also, because you decide over your body (and the baby's), a guy has no saying in your decision to keep the baby (or not).
Ultimately a man's off the hook regardless if his reservations are moral, ethical or religious bc it's the woman's decision. That's why I don't understand how anyone can say it takes two to tango. As a woman, you have the ultimate responsibility in this matter BECAUSE a man has no saying and bc it is YOUR body.
So, the man doesn't have a clue on wearing a condom? He has to wait for the women to tell him to wrap it up? It is 100% up the woman to tell him?
I think not.
That is not to say, that condoms can fail of no fault of the man, and that your argument can be applied to those situations. But to completely absolve men of any responsibility as well, over procreation, and that it lays solely on a women, is being blind and stupid.
There are women and men, in this world, that have poked holes through condoms. There are men in this world, that have spread AIDS to partners for the hell of it. Both genders, have responsibilities. Not just women.
Condoms are not 100% effective even when used responsibly. Neither is birth control.
come on guys, take full responsibility for your part 😏😏😏
I already said this in my second response to him.
And I was agreeing and supporting your response with Evan woods funny tweet. No need to cry.
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I actually edited it, to include another sentence because I realized I came off harsher than I intended to. I meant to add "and I still told him how it doesn't absolve men too". Sorry, didn't mean for it to come off as harsh as it sounded. I meant to agree with your sentiment. lol
My point is this:
Women cry "it's my body, my RIGHTS, I decide if I want abortion
Same hypothetical women take no RESPONSIBILITY to ensure they don't put themselves in a position they have 100% control over by saying no to unprotected sex knowing the potential consequences. Dumb much?
Meanwhile Alyssa Milano is encouraging women to go on a sex strike against the bill. Oh the irony. Should have thought of a sex strike before, when the guy refused to bring his rubber friend.
Instead of preaching rights when you yourself refuse to take responsibility for your body or whats done to it, by your own admission.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by enfant_terribleYou can't have "my body, my decision" but at the same time let him hit it unprotected if your intention is to have an abortion if bad comes to worse.
That's rights without responsibility. Key word here being "it's my body".
Bill makes no exceptions for rape or incest victims (including minors).
So this isn't even about choice of sharing your body irresponsibly. This is about valuing an 5.5 week old embryo more than a human woman's rights to autonomy of her own body.
Read the bill before you keep sticking your foot in your mouth. You sound hella ignorant.
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I'm not even talking about the bill per se but the whole issue of bodies and choices and rights and (ir-)responsibilities that come with it. Being purely philosophical, as are many others in here.
And if it were up to me a woman would have the right to abort a pregnancy 'through operation' even at month 9 if she was raped.
I don't see anything wrong with it, ethically or morally. I do however see it wrong that a woman should have to endure having a child grow inside of her bc of a rape. So there ya have it
Posted by enfant_terribleMy point is this:
Women cry "it's my body, my RIGHTS, I decide if I want abortion
Same hypothetical women take no RESPONSIBILITY to ensure they don't put themselves in a position they have 100% control over by saying no to unprotected sex knowing the potential consequences. Dumb much?
Meanwhile Alyssa Milano is encouraging women to go on a sex strike against the bill. Oh the irony. Should have thought of a sex strike before, when the guy refused to bring his rubber friend.
Instead of preaching rights when you yourself refuse to take responsibility for your body or whats done to it, by your own admission.
i know what you mean, we are cancer moons, right?
but what I exactly ment is what you said: "Same hypothetical women take no RESPONSIBILITY to ensure they don't put themselves in a position they have 100% control over by saying no to unprotected sex knowing the potential consequences. Dumb much?"
yes, dumb much, that is my point
same dumb much as the person who they are doing it with
both are dumb, but just one with the consequencies - it doesnt make that person wiser in the same circumstance.... and accidents happen.... so the bill is wrong
how a 16 year old drunk chick can have a responsibility and foresee the future, dumbed down even more with a responsibility she is not fit for? just like a 16 years old drunken boy is not responsible enough to be a father
the damage is done, so what to do if their parents are dumb as well and didnt think of informing their offsprings about the morning after pill and the offsprings are dumb as well not to seek advice before or after their drunken escapades? abortion, if its not too late
that dumb chick will remember that not-so -pleasant experience for her life, so its not that she gets off guilt-free, like his "partner in crime"
should women take care more of their bodies because of the possible consequencies? yes
should the woman who behaved like a man be riddled with the responsibility of raising a child for 18 years?
just for a drunken night out?
I dont think so
Posted by enfant_terribleMy point is this:
Women cry "it's my body, my RIGHTS, I decide if I want abortion
Same hypothetical women take no RESPONSIBILITY to ensure they don't put themselves in a position they have 100% control over by saying no to unprotected sex knowing the potential consequences. Dumb much?
Meanwhile Alyssa Milano is encouraging women to go on a sex strike against the bill. Oh the irony. Should have thought of a sex strike before, when the guy refused to bring his rubber friend.
Instead of preaching rights when you yourself refuse to take responsibility for your body or whats done to it, by your own admission.
But again, the man doesn't have to stick his pecker in the hole either. He can say "no" too, if he doesn't want to run the risk of pregnancy. His abhorrence to a rubber, doesn't mean he can't say no as well.
And I have to ask you, what your opinion is on abortion when a different circumstance arises. Your statement can be skewed heavily by those that would rather fight with you, then to understand you. So again, I will play devil's advocate
Your statement about women that refuse responsibility, can be perverted to include women that are raped as well. In that aspect, how can any women, take responsibility over her body, if her will taken from her in the act of rape? Should the man that raped her, have rights over the abortion? I ask you this, so that you have a chance to clarify your statement. As it could easily be skewed towards a negative, and I don't think you would feel the same, given these circumstances. And I am one, that will not paint you the devil, but to give you a chance to clarify it, before you are attacked.
Posted by enfant_terriblePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by enfant_terribleYou can't have "my body, my decision" but at the same time let him hit it unprotected if your intention is to have an abortion if bad comes to worse.
That's rights without responsibility. Key word here being "it's my body".
Bill makes no exceptions for rape or incest victims (including minors).
So this isn't even about choice of sharing your body irresponsibly. This is about valuing an 5.5 week old embryo more than a human woman's rights to autonomy of her own body.
Read the bill before you keep sticking your foot in your mouth. You sound hella ignorant.
I'm not even talking about the bill per se but the whole issue of bodies and choices and rights and (ir-)responsibilities that come with it. Being purely philosophical, as are many others in here.
And if it were up to me a woman would have the right to abort a pregnancy 'through operation' even at month 9 if she was raped.
I don't see anything wrong with it, ethically or morally. I do however see it wrong that a woman should have to endure having a child grow inside of her bc of a rape. So there ya have it
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If your not talking about the bill then exit the thread. Title is literally "Do you agree with abortion bill"
Here you are loudly agreeing and on the basis that women need to take responsibility for their choices when LITERALLY this bill removes womens right to make any choice when it comes to a 5.5 week old embryo DESPITE the fact they might have experience rape, incest, or are underaged.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by enfant_terriblePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by enfant_terribleYou can't have "my body, my decision" but at the same time let him hit it unprotected if your intention is to have an abortion if bad comes to worse.
That's rights without responsibility. Key word here being "it's my body".
Bill makes no exceptions for rape or incest victims (including minors).
So this isn't even about choice of sharing your body irresponsibly. This is about valuing an 5.5 week old embryo more than a human woman's rights to autonomy of her own body.
Read the bill before you keep sticking your foot in your mouth. You sound hella ignorant.
I'm not even talking about the bill per se but the whole issue of bodies and choices and rights and (ir-)responsibilities that come with it. Being purely philosophical, as are many others in here.
And if it were up to me a woman would have the right to abort a pregnancy 'through operation' even at month 9 if she was raped.
I don't see anything wrong with it, ethically or morally. I do however see it wrong that a woman should have to endure having a child grow inside of her bc of a rape. So there ya have it
If your not talking about the bill then exit the thread. Title is literally "Do you agree with abortion bill"
Here you are loudly agreeing and on the basis that women need to take responsibility for their choices when LITERALLY this bill removes womens right to make any choice when it comes to a 5.5 week old embryo DESPITE the fact they might have experience rape, incest, or are underaged.
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maybe its good to have an opinion which is not in synch with our general view.... and he hold it, and we have to find a way, how to do it right
we cant just order someone to exit, if they dont share our opinion....
it would be too similar to what we fight against
Posted by Pandora101Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by enfant_terriblePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by enfant_terribleYou can't have "my body, my decision" but at the same time let him hit it unprotected if your intention is to have an abortion if bad comes to worse.
That's rights without responsibility. Key word here being "it's my body".
Bill makes no exceptions for rape or incest victims (including minors).
So this isn't even about choice of sharing your body irresponsibly. This is about valuing an 5.5 week old embryo more than a human woman's rights to autonomy of her own body.
Read the bill before you keep sticking your foot in your mouth. You sound hella ignorant.
I'm not even talking about the bill per se but the whole issue of bodies and choices and rights and (ir-)responsibilities that come with it. Being purely philosophical, as are many others in here.
And if it were up to me a woman would have the right to abort a pregnancy 'through operation' even at month 9 if she was raped.
I don't see anything wrong with it, ethically or morally. I do however see it wrong that a woman should have to endure having a child grow inside of her bc of a rape. So there ya have it
If your not talking about the bill then exit the thread. Title is literally "Do you agree with abortion bill"
Here you are loudly agreeing and on the basis that women need to take responsibility for their choices when LITERALLY this bill removes womens right to make any choice when it comes to a 5.5 week old embryo DESPITE the fact they might have experience rape, incest, or are underaged.
maybe its good to have an opinion which is not in synch with our general view.... and he hold it, and we have to find a way, how to do it right
we cant just order someone to exit, if they dont share our opinion....
it would be too similar to what we fight against
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Meh I disagree.
Thread is about opinions on abortion bill. He is happy to share an opinion without knowing what the bill entails or caring what it entails. Ergo I find his opinions not worth my attention.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Pandora101Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by enfant_terriblePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by enfant_terribleYou can't have "my body, my decision" but at the same time let him hit it unprotected if your intention is to have an abortion if bad comes to worse.
That's rights without responsibility. Key word here being "it's my body".
Bill makes no exceptions for rape or incest victims (including minors).
So this isn't even about choice of sharing your body irresponsibly. This is about valuing an 5.5 week old embryo more than a human woman's rights to autonomy of her own body.
Read the bill before you keep sticking your foot in your mouth. You sound hella ignorant.
I'm not even talking about the bill per se but the whole issue of bodies and choices and rights and (ir-)responsibilities that come with it. Being purely philosophical, as are many others in here.
And if it were up to me a woman would have the right to abort a pregnancy 'through operation' even at month 9 if she was raped.
I don't see anything wrong with it, ethically or morally. I do however see it wrong that a woman should have to endure having a child grow inside of her bc of a rape. So there ya have it
If your not talking about the bill then exit the thread. Title is literally "Do you agree with abortion bill"
Here you are loudly agreeing and on the basis that women need to take responsibility for their choices when LITERALLY this bill removes womens right to make any choice when it comes to a 5.5 week old embryo DESPITE the fact they might have experience rape, incest, or are underaged.
maybe its good to have an opinion which is not in synch with our general view.... and he hold it, and we have to find a way, how to do it right
we cant just order someone to exit, if they dont share our opinion....
it would be too similar to what we fight against
Meh I disagree.
Thread is about opinions on abortion bill. He is happy to share an opinion without knowing what the bill entails or caring what it entails. Ergo I find his opinions not worth my attention.
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yes, the thread is about opinions on abortion bill. He provided his opinion, like the rest of us
Posted by Pandora101Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Pandora101Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by enfant_terriblePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by enfant_terribleYou can't have "my body, my decision" but at the same time let him hit it unprotected if your intention is to have an abortion if bad comes to worse.
That's rights without responsibility. Key word here being "it's my body".
Bill makes no exceptions for rape or incest victims (including minors).
So this isn't even about choice of sharing your body irresponsibly. This is about valuing an 5.5 week old embryo more than a human woman's rights to autonomy of her own body.
Read the bill before you keep sticking your foot in your mouth. You sound hella ignorant.
I'm not even talking about the bill per se but the whole issue of bodies and choices and rights and (ir-)responsibilities that come with it. Being purely philosophical, as are many others in here.
And if it were up to me a woman would have the right to abort a pregnancy 'through operation' even at month 9 if she was raped.
I don't see anything wrong with it, ethically or morally. I do however see it wrong that a woman should have to endure having a child grow inside of her bc of a rape. So there ya have it
If your not talking about the bill then exit the thread. Title is literally "Do you agree with abortion bill"
Here you are loudly agreeing and on the basis that women need to take responsibility for their choices when LITERALLY this bill removes womens right to make any choice when it comes to a 5.5 week old embryo DESPITE the fact they might have experience rape, incest, or are underaged.
maybe its good to have an opinion which is not in synch with our general view.... and he hold it, and we have to find a way, how to do it right
we cant just order someone to exit, if they dont share our opinion....
it would be too similar to what we fight against
Meh I disagree.
Thread is about opinions on abortion bill. He is happy to share an opinion without knowing what the bill entails or caring what it entails. Ergo I find his opinions not worth my attention.
yes, the thread is about opinions on abortion bill. He provided his opinion, like the rest of us
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Read what he said
"I'm not even talking about the bill per se"
My opinion on his opinion stands.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Pandora101Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Pandora101Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by enfant_terriblePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by enfant_terribleYou can't have "my body, my decision" but at the same time let him hit it unprotected if your intention is to have an abortion if bad comes to worse.
That's rights without responsibility. Key word here being "it's my body".
Bill makes no exceptions for rape or incest victims (including minors).
So this isn't even about choice of sharing your body irresponsibly. This is about valuing an 5.5 week old embryo more than a human woman's rights to autonomy of her own body.
Read the bill before you keep sticking your foot in your mouth. You sound hella ignorant.
I'm not even talking about the bill per se but the whole issue of bodies and choices and rights and (ir-)responsibilities that come with it. Being purely philosophical, as are many others in here.
And if it were up to me a woman would have the right to abort a pregnancy 'through operation' even at month 9 if she was raped.
I don't see anything wrong with it, ethically or morally. I do however see it wrong that a woman should have to endure having a child grow inside of her bc of a rape. So there ya have it
If your not talking about the bill then exit the thread. Title is literally "Do you agree with abortion bill"
Here you are loudly agreeing and on the basis that women need to take responsibility for their choices when LITERALLY this bill removes womens right to make any choice when it comes to a 5.5 week old embryo DESPITE the fact they might have experience rape, incest, or are underaged.
maybe its good to have an opinion which is not in synch with our general view.... and he hold it, and we have to find a way, how to do it right
we cant just order someone to exit, if they dont share our opinion....
it would be too similar to what we fight against
Meh I disagree.
Thread is about opinions on abortion bill. He is happy to share an opinion without knowing what the bill entails or caring what it entails. Ergo I find his opinions not worth my attention.
yes, the thread is about opinions on abortion bill. He provided his opinion, like the rest of us
Read what he said
"I'm not even talking about the bill per se"
My opinion on his opinion stands.
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I read what he said and I didnt stop at that quote
what about a conversation with our opponents? 🙂
but its true, I am mad everytime I see restrictions and overreact maybe
this topic is like a red cape for a bull, I am so disappointed it can exist, I mean these kind of bill in these time of age...... and I am not even from USA and dont have any experience with abortions
but our EU heads are idiots as well, so I am expecting something similar in the years to come here as well
Posted by Pandora101Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Pandora101Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Pandora101Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by enfant_terriblePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by enfant_terribleYou can't have "my body, my decision" but at the same time let him hit it unprotected if your intention is to have an abortion if bad comes to worse.
That's rights without responsibility. Key word here being "it's my body".
Bill makes no exceptions for rape or incest victims (including minors).
So this isn't even about choice of sharing your body irresponsibly. This is about valuing an 5.5 week old embryo more than a human woman's rights to autonomy of her own body.
Read the bill before you keep sticking your foot in your mouth. You sound hella ignorant.
I'm not even talking about the bill per se but the whole issue of bodies and choices and rights and (ir-)responsibilities that come with it. Being purely philosophical, as are many others in here.
And if it were up to me a woman would have the right to abort a pregnancy 'through operation' even at month 9 if she was raped.
I don't see anything wrong with it, ethically or morally. I do however see it wrong that a woman should have to endure having a child grow inside of her bc of a rape. So there ya have it
If your not talking about the bill then exit the thread. Title is literally "Do you agree with abortion bill"
Here you are loudly agreeing and on the basis that women need to take responsibility for their choices when LITERALLY this bill removes womens right to make any choice when it comes to a 5.5 week old embryo DESPITE the fact they might have experience rape, incest, or are underaged.
maybe its good to have an opinion which is not in synch with our general view.... and he hold it, and we have to find a way, how to do it right
we cant just order someone to exit, if they dont share our opinion....
it would be too similar to what we fight against
Meh I disagree.
Thread is about opinions on abortion bill. He is happy to share an opinion without knowing what the bill entails or caring what it entails. Ergo I find his opinions not worth my attention.
yes, the thread is about opinions on abortion bill. He provided his opinion, like the rest of us
Read what he said
"I'm not even talking about the bill per se"
My opinion on his opinion stands.
I read what he said and I didnt stop at that quote
what about a conversation with our opponents? 🙂
but its true, I am mad everytime I see restrictions and overreact maybe
this topic is like a red cape for a bull, I am so disappointed it can exist, I mean these kind of bill in these time of age...... and I am not even from USA and dont have any experience with abortions
but our EU heads are idiots as well, so I am expecting something similar in the years to come here as well
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Don't assume I am mad.
I am dismissive of his opinion or anyones opinion of the subject matter when they are admitting they haven't even taken the time to read the subject matter.
No sense in engaging in a conversation or debate with someone when they haven't taken the time to read said bill.
Posted by AntiphatesPosted by Phantom_LimboGood grief. They're comparing abortions to the Holocaust. IN STATE LAW.
(i) It is estimated that 6,000,000 Jewish people were murdered in German concentration camps during World War II; 3,000,000 people were executed by Joseph Stalin's regime in Soviet gulags; 2,500,000 people were murdered during the Chinese "Great Leap Forward" in 1958; 1,500,000 to 3,000,000 people were murdered by the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia during the 1970s; and approximately 1,000,000 people were murdered during the Rwandan genocide in 1994. All of these are widely acknowledged to have been crimes against humanity. By comparison, more than 50 million babies have been aborted in the United States since the Roe decision in 1973, more than three times the number who were killed in German death camps, Chinese purges, Stalin's gulags, Cambodian killing fields, and the Rwandan genocide combined.
As a german I'm deeply offended. We never did anything even remotely close to the horrendous crime that is abortion.
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The Holosust never happened?
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Pandora101Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Pandora101Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Pandora101Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by enfant_terriblePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by enfant_terribleYou can't have "my body, my decision" but at the same time let him hit it unprotected if your intention is to have an abortion if bad comes to worse.
That's rights without responsibility. Key word here being "it's my body".
Bill makes no exceptions for rape or incest victims (including minors).
So this isn't even about choice of sharing your body irresponsibly. This is about valuing an 5.5 week old embryo more than a human woman's rights to autonomy of her own body.
Read the bill before you keep sticking your foot in your mouth. You sound hella ignorant.
I'm not even talking about the bill per se but the whole issue of bodies and choices and rights and (ir-)responsibilities that come with it. Being purely philosophical, as are many others in here.
And if it were up to me a woman would have the right to abort a pregnancy 'through operation' even at month 9 if she was raped.
I don't see anything wrong with it, ethically or morally. I do however see it wrong that a woman should have to endure having a child grow inside of her bc of a rape. So there ya have it
If your not talking about the bill then exit the thread. Title is literally "Do you agree with abortion bill"
Here you are loudly agreeing and on the basis that women need to take responsibility for their choices when LITERALLY this bill removes womens right to make any choice when it comes to a 5.5 week old embryo DESPITE the fact they might have experience rape, incest, or are underaged.
maybe its good to have an opinion which is not in synch with our general view.... and he hold it, and we have to find a way, how to do it right
we cant just order someone to exit, if they dont share our opinion....
it would be too similar to what we fight against
Meh I disagree.
Thread is about opinions on abortion bill. He is happy to share an opinion without knowing what the bill entails or caring what it entails. Ergo I find his opinions not worth my attention.
yes, the thread is about opinions on abortion bill. He provided his opinion, like the rest of us
Read what he said
"I'm not even talking about the bill per se"
My opinion on his opinion stands.
I read what he said and I didnt stop at that quote
what about a conversation with our opponents? 🙂
but its true, I am mad everytime I see restrictions and overreact maybe
this topic is like a red cape for a bull, I am so disappointed it can exist, I mean these kind of bill in these time of age...... and I am not even from USA and dont have any experience with abortions
but our EU heads are idiots as well, so I am expecting something similar in the years to come here as well
Don't assume I am mad.
I am dismissive of his opinion or anyones opinion of the subject matter when they are admitting they haven't even taken the time to read the subject matter.
No sense in engaging in a conversation or debate with someone when they haven't taken the time to read said bill.
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which is like a majority of people, nearly no-one read the bill
that is the point, to talk to people who have different opinion
and see how they see it and say how we (I) see it and maybe see things throu each others eyes and maybe reach some agreement
Posted by AntiphatesPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by AntiphatesPosted by Phantom_LimboGood grief. They're comparing abortions to the Holocaust. IN STATE LAW.
(i) It is estimated that 6,000,000 Jewish people were murdered in German concentration camps during World War II; 3,000,000 people were executed by Joseph Stalin's regime in Soviet gulags; 2,500,000 people were murdered during the Chinese "Great Leap Forward" in 1958; 1,500,000 to 3,000,000 people were murdered by the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia during the 1970s; and approximately 1,000,000 people were murdered during the Rwandan genocide in 1994. All of these are widely acknowledged to have been crimes against humanity. By comparison, more than 50 million babies have been aborted in the United States since the Roe decision in 1973, more than three times the number who were killed in German death camps, Chinese purges, Stalin's gulags, Cambodian killing fields, and the Rwandan genocide combined.
As a german I'm deeply offended. We never did anything even remotely close to the horrendous crime that is abortion.
The Holosust never happened?
Are you implying that the Holocaust comes even remotely close to the sin that is abortion?
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I'm saying it's much worse.....
Posted by Pandora101Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Pandora101Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Pandora101Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Pandora101Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by enfant_terriblePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by enfant_terribleYou can't have "my body, my decision" but at the same time let him hit it unprotected if your intention is to have an abortion if bad comes to worse.
That's rights without responsibility. Key word here being "it's my body".
Bill makes no exceptions for rape or incest victims (including minors).
So this isn't even about choice of sharing your body irresponsibly. This is about valuing an 5.5 week old embryo more than a human woman's rights to autonomy of her own body.
Read the bill before you keep sticking your foot in your mouth. You sound hella ignorant.
I'm not even talking about the bill per se but the whole issue of bodies and choices and rights and (ir-)responsibilities that come with it. Being purely philosophical, as are many others in here.
And if it were up to me a woman would have the right to abort a pregnancy 'through operation' even at month 9 if she was raped.
I don't see anything wrong with it, ethically or morally. I do however see it wrong that a woman should have to endure having a child grow inside of her bc of a rape. So there ya have it
If your not talking about the bill then exit the thread. Title is literally "Do you agree with abortion bill"
Here you are loudly agreeing and on the basis that women need to take responsibility for their choices when LITERALLY this bill removes womens right to make any choice when it comes to a 5.5 week old embryo DESPITE the fact they might have experience rape, incest, or are underaged.
maybe its good to have an opinion which is not in synch with our general view.... and he hold it, and we have to find a way, how to do it right
we cant just order someone to exit, if they dont share our opinion....
it would be too similar to what we fight against
Meh I disagree.
Thread is about opinions on abortion bill. He is happy to share an opinion without knowing what the bill entails or caring what it entails. Ergo I find his opinions not worth my attention.
yes, the thread is about opinions on abortion bill. He provided his opinion, like the rest of us
Read what he said
"I'm not even talking about the bill per se"
My opinion on his opinion stands.
I read what he said and I didnt stop at that quote
what about a conversation with our opponents? 🙂
but its true, I am mad everytime I see restrictions and overreact maybe
this topic is like a red cape for a bull, I am so disappointed it can exist, I mean these kind of bill in these time of age...... and I am not even from USA and dont have any experience with abortions
but our EU heads are idiots as well, so I am expecting something similar in the years to come here as well
Don't assume I am mad.
I am dismissive of his opinion or anyones opinion of the subject matter when they are admitting they haven't even taken the time to read the subject matter.
No sense in engaging in a conversation or debate with someone when they haven't taken the time to read said bill.
which is like a majority of people, nearly no-one read the bill
that is the point, to talk to people who have different opinion
and see how they see it and say how we (I) see it and maybe see things throu each others eyes and maybe reach some agreement
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I read the bill.
And I'm assuming when the op asks 'whats your opinion of bill" she's assuming those who have opinions will have at least read the bill.
Posted by AntiphatesPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by AntiphatesPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by AntiphatesPosted by Phantom_LimboGood grief. They're comparing abortions to the Holocaust. IN STATE LAW.
(i) It is estimated that 6,000,000 Jewish people were murdered in German concentration camps during World War II; 3,000,000 people were executed by Joseph Stalin's regime in Soviet gulags; 2,500,000 people were murdered during the Chinese "Great Leap Forward" in 1958; 1,500,000 to 3,000,000 people were murdered by the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia during the 1970s; and approximately 1,000,000 people were murdered during the Rwandan genocide in 1994. All of these are widely acknowledged to have been crimes against humanity. By comparison, more than 50 million babies have been aborted in the United States since the Roe decision in 1973, more than three times the number who were killed in German death camps, Chinese purges, Stalin's gulags, Cambodian killing fields, and the Rwandan genocide combined.
As a german I'm deeply offended. We never did anything even remotely close to the horrendous crime that is abortion.
The Holosust never happened?
Are you implying that the Holocaust comes even remotely close to the sin that is abortion?
I'm saying it's much worse.....
What is your point then?
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There's the thing.....I've never had an abortion but known many women that have, to call them "sinners"' without knowing their circustances is ridiculous
If the Holocaust happened, hundreds of children and adults were slaughtered and at an age where they were consciously aware of their torture
I don't recall any memory of being in my mother's womb at a few days, weeks, months old, or of being born so there is no rational comparison to being at an age where one is consciously aware of losing their llfe......
Posted by BllPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by blvckphvseI'm Canadian, so I don't know what the bill entailed, could you share?
If it's anything against having an abortion, I'm not going to agree with it.
Alabama and Georgia are calling a 6 week old embryo (when most women don't know they are pregnant) a human and due full human rights. Abortion is now illegal in these states even when it comes to rape and/or incest and doctors performing the procedure will face 5-15 years in prison.
It’s like the 1800s all over again...
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Unbelievable in this day and age 🙄
Posted by blvckphvsePosted by TheRabbitPosted by blvckphvsePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by blvckphvsePosted by MyStarsShineTake to the streets of America ladies......nobody has the right to dictate to you how you live your lives
Archaic, fucked up mentality...
👎🏻😡😐
This is what I am thinking.. If this was happening in Canada, I'd be making my voice fkn heard! I don't understand how they can do this!!! I am outraged and I don't even live there.
No one cares about noise. The people in power are predominately old white males that are part of the 1% or bought by the 1% .
Our government is morally bankrupt.
You guys can't do anything about it?? How can they call it a free country when women don't even have control over their reproduction!? I just don't understand how they can be allowed to make such decisions. There has to be some platform for your voices.
There's little that can be done at this point.
Politicians are owned by wealthy corporate donors who have control over most necessary aspects of the lives of Americans (utilities, health care, food, etc.), so there isn't even a way to cut off the flow of money to pols and financially starve them into submission.
Women make up majority of the health care system that everyone relies on. Hit them there. The hospitals can't function without staff, most of which is made up by women. Yes, I realize it's a stretch and only my first spur of the moment thought, majority are not going to strike and need their income to survive, but it could work.. I'll keep thinking on this and try to come up with better solutions.
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As someone who has worked in a hospital for over a decade.. I'm willing to say that the majority of healthcare workers lean to the conservative side of the political spectrum.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Pandora101Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Pandora101Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Pandora101Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Pandora101Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by enfant_terriblePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by enfant_terribleYou can't have "my body, my decision" but at the same time let him hit it unprotected if your intention is to have an abortion if bad comes to worse.
That's rights without responsibility. Key word here being "it's my body".
Bill makes no exceptions for rape or incest victims (including minors).
So this isn't even about choice of sharing your body irresponsibly. This is about valuing an 5.5 week old embryo more than a human woman's rights to autonomy of her own body.
Read the bill before you keep sticking your foot in your mouth. You sound hella ignorant.
I'm not even talking about the bill per se but the whole issue of bodies and choices and rights and (ir-)responsibilities that come with it. Being purely philosophical, as are many others in here.
And if it were up to me a woman would have the right to abort a pregnancy 'through operation' even at month 9 if she was raped.
I don't see anything wrong with it, ethically or morally. I do however see it wrong that a woman should have to endure having a child grow inside of her bc of a rape. So there ya have it
If your not talking about the bill then exit the thread. Title is literally "Do you agree with abortion bill"
Here you are loudly agreeing and on the basis that women need to take responsibility for their choices when LITERALLY this bill removes womens right to make any choice when it comes to a 5.5 week old embryo DESPITE the fact they might have experience rape, incest, or are underaged.
maybe its good to have an opinion which is not in synch with our general view.... and he hold it, and we have to find a way, how to do it right
we cant just order someone to exit, if they dont share our opinion....
it would be too similar to what we fight against
Meh I disagree.
Thread is about opinions on abortion bill. He is happy to share an opinion without knowing what the bill entails or caring what it entails. Ergo I find his opinions not worth my attention.
yes, the thread is about opinions on abortion bill. He provided his opinion, like the rest of us
Read what he said
"I'm not even talking about the bill per se"
My opinion on his opinion stands.
I read what he said and I didnt stop at that quote
what about a conversation with our opponents? 🙂
but its true, I am mad everytime I see restrictions and overreact maybe
this topic is like a red cape for a bull, I am so disappointed it can exist, I mean these kind of bill in these time of age...... and I am not even from USA and dont have any experience with abortions
but our EU heads are idiots as well, so I am expecting something similar in the years to come here as well
Don't assume I am mad.
I am dismissive of his opinion or anyones opinion of the subject matter when they are admitting they haven't even taken the time to read the subject matter.
No sense in engaging in a conversation or debate with someone when they haven't taken the time to read said bill.
which is like a majority of people, nearly no-one read the bill
that is the point, to talk to people who have different opinion
and see how they see it and say how we (I) see it and maybe see things throu each others eyes and maybe reach some agreement
I read the bill.
And I'm assuming when the op asks 'whats your opinion of bill" she's assuming those who have opinions will have at least read the bill.
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"I read the bill.
And I'm assuming when the op asks 'whats your opinion of bill" she's assuming those who have opinions will have at least read the bill. "
since the OP didnt care to share her/his opinion nor to engage in this debate, I think (I assume) she only wanted to create a click-bite "clever" topic 🙂
assumptions, that not everyone is brain-dead lost the elections (and also the fact that 2 inept adepts were there for offer, neither of them a good option)
assumptions that people actually read bills and such, may lose the next election, unless people wake up and start engage with their opponents
imho
Posted by BllPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by blvckphvseI'm Canadian, so I don't know what the bill entailed, could you share?
If it's anything against having an abortion, I'm not going to agree with it.
Alabama and Georgia are calling a 6 week old embryo (when most women don't know they are pregnant) a human and due full human rights. Abortion is now illegal in these states even when it comes to rape and/or incest and doctors performing the procedure will face 5-15 years in prison.
It’s like the 1800s all over again...
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Crazy that we are just shy from 2020 and this is our reality. I saw this meme the other day, went something like...
Aren't time zones amazing?
In Australia its tomorrow
In Europe its tonight.
And in the us, its 1942 where minorities, women, and LGBT are still under assault by old white men
Posted by AntiphatesPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by AntiphatesPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by AntiphatesPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by AntiphatesPosted by Phantom_LimboGood grief. They're comparing abortions to the Holocaust. IN STATE LAW.
(i) It is estimated that 6,000,000 Jewish people were murdered in German concentration camps during World War II; 3,000,000 people were executed by Joseph Stalin's regime in Soviet gulags; 2,500,000 people were murdered during the Chinese "Great Leap Forward" in 1958; 1,500,000 to 3,000,000 people were murdered by the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia during the 1970s; and approximately 1,000,000 people were murdered during the Rwandan genocide in 1994. All of these are widely acknowledged to have been crimes against humanity. By comparison, more than 50 million babies have been aborted in the United States since the Roe decision in 1973, more than three times the number who were killed in German death camps, Chinese purges, Stalin's gulags, Cambodian killing fields, and the Rwandan genocide combined.
As a german I'm deeply offended. We never did anything even remotely close to the horrendous crime that is abortion.
The Holosust never happened?
Are you implying that the Holocaust comes even remotely close to the sin that is abortion?
I'm saying it's much worse.....
What is your point then?
There's the thing.....I've never had an abortion but known many women that have, to call them "sinners"' without knowing their circustances is ridiculous
If the Holocaust happened, hundreds of children and adults were slaughtered and at an age where they were consciously aware of their torture
I don't recall any memory of being in my mother's womb at a few days, weeks, months old, or of being born so there is no rational comparison to being at an age where one is consciously aware of losing their llfe......
Okay, I think I should resolve the joke now. I have been laughing non-stop since you asked the question though.
Thank you for that.
My inital statement was sarcasm and by asking "what about the Holocaust?" you implicitly put abortion and Holocaust close to each other since my statement said we did no thing that came close to abortion. So, it's either that your inital question makes no sense in the context of what I said or you are implying that they are close to each other in their severity.
The inital joke I made was toying with abortion and holocaust and other german dark doings being so far away from each other while the law compared them to each other. This can be interpreted in both ways. Either abortion is utterly harmless and waaaay below the holocaust in terms of severity or way above it and far more serious.
Hope I could clarify it.
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You never come across as humorous so I took your "sinners" and other comments literally
I guess with the written word that's where these come in handy 😀🙄😂
Posted by TheRabbitPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by AntiphatesPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by AntiphatesPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by AntiphatesPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by AntiphatesPosted by Phantom_LimboGood grief. They're comparing abortions to the Holocaust. IN STATE LAW.
(i) It is estimated that 6,000,000 Jewish people were murdered in German concentration camps during World War II; 3,000,000 people were executed by Joseph Stalin's regime in Soviet gulags; 2,500,000 people were murdered during the Chinese "Great Leap Forward" in 1958; 1,500,000 to 3,000,000 people were murdered by the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia during the 1970s; and approximately 1,000,000 people were murdered during the Rwandan genocide in 1994. All of these are widely acknowledged to have been crimes against humanity. By comparison, more than 50 million babies have been aborted in the United States since the Roe decision in 1973, more than three times the number who were killed in German death camps, Chinese purges, Stalin's gulags, Cambodian killing fields, and the Rwandan genocide combined.
As a german I'm deeply offended. We never did anything even remotely close to the horrendous crime that is abortion.
The Holosust never happened?
Are you implying that the Holocaust comes even remotely close to the sin that is abortion?
I'm saying it's much worse.....
What is your point then?
There's the thing.....I've never had an abortion but known many women that have, to call them "sinners"' without knowing their circustances is ridiculous
If the Holocaust happened, hundreds of children and adults were slaughtered and at an age where they were consciously aware of their torture
I don't recall any memory of being in my mother's womb at a few days, weeks, months old, or of being born so there is no rational comparison to being at an age where one is consciously aware of losing their llfe......
Okay, I think I should resolve the joke now. I have been laughing non-stop since you asked the question though.
Thank you for that.
My inital statement was sarcasm and by asking "what about the Holocaust?" you implicitly put abortion and Holocaust close to each other since my statement said we did no thing that came close to abortion. So, it's either that your inital question makes no sense in the context of what I said or you are implying that they are close to each other in their severity.
The inital joke I made was toying with abortion and holocaust and other german dark doings being so far away from each other while the law compared them to each other. This can be interpreted in both ways. Either abortion is utterly harmless and waaaay below the holocaust in terms of severity or way above it and far more serious.
Hope I could clarify it.
You never come across as humorous so I took your "sinners" and other comments literally
I guess with the written word that's where these come in handy 😀🙄😂
His dry/deadpan humour puts mine to shame at times.
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But you're funny 👍
Posted by AntiphatesPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by AntiphatesPosted by Phantom_LimboGood grief. They're comparing abortions to the Holocaust. IN STATE LAW.
(i) It is estimated that 6,000,000 Jewish people were murdered in German concentration camps during World War II; 3,000,000 people were executed by Joseph Stalin's regime in Soviet gulags; 2,500,000 people were murdered during the Chinese "Great Leap Forward" in 1958; 1,500,000 to 3,000,000 people were murdered by the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia during the 1970s; and approximately 1,000,000 people were murdered during the Rwandan genocide in 1994. All of these are widely acknowledged to have been crimes against humanity. By comparison, more than 50 million babies have been aborted in the United States since the Roe decision in 1973, more than three times the number who were killed in German death camps, Chinese purges, Stalin's gulags, Cambodian killing fields, and the Rwandan genocide combined.
As a german I'm deeply offended. We never did anything even remotely close to the horrendous crime that is abortion.
The Holosust never happened?
Are you implying that the Holocaust comes even remotely close to the sin that is abortion?
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wut
In all honesty.. I'm not too worried about it.
Capitalism will sort this out before it can ever take effect.
In the upcoming weeks, I expect to see companies taking a stand (via twitter/social media) and boycotting the bill by threatening to stop doing business in Alabama.
We saw it happen with the bathroom bill.
Corporations aren't stupid. They are aware of whom is/will be buying their products for the next several decades. If they want to stay in business, they will cater to the younger (more liberal) generations.
Posted by BllPosted by blvckphvsePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by blvckphvsePosted by MyStarsShineTake to the streets of America ladies......nobody has the right to dictate to you how you live your lives
Archaic, fucked up mentality...
👎🏻😡😐
This is what I am thinking.. If this was happening in Canada, I'd be making my voice fkn heard! I don't understand how they can do this!!! I am outraged and I don't even live there.
No one cares about noise. The people in power are predominately old white males that are part of the 1% or bought by the 1% .
Our government is morally bankrupt.
You guys can't do anything about it?? How can they call it a free country when women don't even have control over their reproduction!? I just don't understand how they can be allowed to make such decisions. There has to be some platform for your voices.
When they tried something similar (but not as extreme by any means) in my country, doctors (mostly females) united and started a national campaign against the law change. People also took to the streets. The law never happened after all. We didn’t have a fucking orange for a president, though...
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Ireland?
Posted by MyStarsShineYou'd make a great Union rep....or even a politician...
Great 🔥 in your belly...
Naw I'd be shitty at playing the politics game. My time might be for sale but not my morals.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by MyStarsShineYou'd make a great Union rep....or even a politician...
Great 🔥 in your belly...
Naw I'd be shitty at playing the politics game. My time might be for sale but not my morals.
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Trade Unionist 👍
My fire sign moon and sun Dad was one.....he almost moved mountains for people....great leader and was never scared to speak out for justice ❤️. He made a difference in many peoples' lives that weren't courageous enough to do so....
i'm not reading 196 responses but wasn't there something along the lines of a woman could face jail if she had a miscarriage?
I mind my business about what people choose to do or not to do with their bodies.
Posted by Phantom_LimboPosted by _DazedIn all honesty.. I'm not too worried about it.
Capitalism will sort this out before it can ever take effect.
In the upcoming weeks, I expect to see companies taking a stand (via twitter/social media) and boycotting the bill by threatening to stop doing business in Alabama.
We saw it happen with the bathroom bill.
Corporations aren't stupid. They are aware of whom is/will be buying their products for the next several decades. If they want to stay in business, they will cater to the younger (more liberal) generations.
It already passed and was signed into law this time, though. They would have to repeal it.
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It can be blocked in court. Several orgs have already filed suits against the state.
The Georgia bill IMO is more debatable than the Alabama law.
If the Georgia law passes, women that miscarry can be prosecuted.
LOVE THE FETUS, HATE THE CHILD
at what point do you begin to hate the child?
when she comes out with skin the colour of earth?
when she slips through your borders?
when she is too needy and you are too busy?
when the systems you built fail her?
when she is hungry and hurting and angry?
when her heartbeat quickens for the wrong being?
when she no longer sounds like your god?
when she asks for help when her body is invaded?
when she tells you that she needs an abortion?
-Jasmine Kaur
Imgur isn't working for me so heres a tweet I saw in text form...
Lets rename 'school' as 'uterus' so maybe republican lawmakers will want to do something about the children dying inside them.
Boycott any sexual intercourse !
Posted by jeanei'm not reading 196 responses but wasn't there something along the lines of a woman could face jail if she had a miscarriage?
Georgia bill yes. Not the Alabama one.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by jeanei'm not reading 196 responses but wasn't there something along the lines of a woman could face jail if she had a miscarriage?
Georgia bill yes. Not the Alabama one.
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i'm outraged and at the same time, not surprised.
i have to admit in the last few weeks i have been uttering "fucking men!" under my breath.
No one in their right mind should agree with this bullshit. If Republican lawmakers actually gave a fuck about human life, they’d vote to make conditions in our country more livable. This is a power move. No more. No less.
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the only thing how to fight this nonsense is imho to go to the core: are the passers of this insane bill ready for the concequences? like million babies born unwanted and raised by half-wit or unfit mothers on state welfare? paid from their taxes?
I would go into the streets with banners saying that
they deciding about the minute of the human breats.... nothing further.... who is raising that child? who is funding it? do you need some unwanted babies, so your child would feel superiour to them?
the hypocricy is astounding