Is being non-vegetarian immoral?

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Those animals exist for human consumption. Their purpose is literally to be grown and slaughtered for our substanance.

If your a vegan your technically doing harm to animals still. Seeing as the crop lands growing your veggies had to be cleared and the homes of the animals that lived there destroyed.

Unless you grow your own food and it goes farm to table.

But like julliete pointed out, do you own clothes? Do you own a car? Home furnishings? Shoes?

Difficult to play the moral high ground when child labor made those Nike’s on your feet...

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Those animals exist for human consumption. Their purpose is literally to be grown and slaughtered for our substanance.

If your a vegan your technically doing harm to animals still. Seeing as the crop lands growing your veggies had to be cleared and the homes of the animals that lived there destroyed.

Unless you grow your own food and it goes farm to table.

But like julliete pointed out, do you own clothes? Do you own a car? Home furnishings? Shoes?

Difficult to play the moral high ground when child labor made those Nike’s on your feet...


Do you have such a high sense of entitlement to say that they just exist for our consumption? Yes we have made use of them for our consumption and have adopted unethical means to increase their supply to feed our demand for meat. But that does not mean they are there just for our consumption.

Yup that's our bloody capitalism without the basic ethics of humanity.
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Those animals exist for human consumption. Their purpose is literally to be grown and slaughtered for our substanance.

If your a vegan your technically doing harm to animals still. Seeing as the crop lands growing your veggies had to be cleared and the homes of the animals that lived there destroyed.

Unless you grow your own food and it goes farm to table.

But like julliete pointed out, do you own clothes? Do you own a car? Home furnishings? Shoes?

Difficult to play the moral high ground when child labor made those Nike’s on your feet...


Do you have such a high sense of entitlement to say that they just exist for our consumption? Yes we have made use of them for our consumption and have adopted unethical means to increase their supply to feed our demand for meat. But that does not mean they are there just for our consumption.

Yup that's our bloody capitalism without the basic ethics of humanity.
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How are stating the facts ‘entitlement’?

Do some research on the evolution of farm animals. Without human intervention and engineering of these animals, they wouldn’t exist. Fact.
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NOPE, We are the top of the food chain!

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Are you willing to kill for your food then?
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No, unfortunately not 😢 I would have to do it caveman style and let the man go hunt and me stay in my cave. If I had to kill an animal, I'd probably just eat ants and eggs. I couldn't bear the thought of slaughtering an animal.
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Those animals exist for human consumption. Their purpose is literally to be grown and slaughtered for our substanance.

If your a vegan your technically doing harm to animals still. Seeing as the crop lands growing your veggies had to be cleared and the homes of the animals that lived there destroyed.

Unless you grow your own food and it goes farm to table.

But like julliete pointed out, do you own clothes? Do you own a car? Home furnishings? Shoes?

Difficult to play the moral high ground when child labor made those Nike’s on your feet...


Do you have such a high sense of entitlement to say that they just exist for our consumption? Yes we have made use of them for our consumption and have adopted unethical means to increase their supply to feed our demand for meat. But that does not mean they are there just for our consumption.

Yup that's our bloody capitalism without the basic ethics of humanity.
How are stating the facts ‘entitlement’?

Do some research on the evolution of farm animals. Without human intervention and engineering of these animals, they wouldn’t exist. Fact.
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Yes they wouldn't be called farm animals then. Just animals.
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You do realize that a lot of people can't afford to be vegetarians, right?
Price of meat is cheaper than vegetables is mostly due to the economic policies being adopted to subsidize meat and due to the high demand. Not because of any production problem.
Not true at all... crop farmers receive the most subsidies in all of agriculture. Crop farmers also suffer the most due to mother nature. Frost in Florida causes the oranges to die, driving up the cost to consumers due to lack of supply. An abundance of animals can influence crop production - most areas have what is called a crop deprevation tag for hunters to thin the population of crop destroying animals.
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https://www.quora.com/in/Why-are-vegetables-in-the-U-S-more-expensive-than-meat
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NOPE, We are the top of the food chain!

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Are you willing to kill for your food then?
No, unfortunately not 😢 I would have to do it caveman style and let the man go hunt and me stay in my cave. If I had to kill an animal, I'd probably just eat ants and eggs. I couldn't bear the thought of slaughtering an animal.


You want burgers? I got you fam. ::pulls out knife sharpener::
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I'm on my way! 😆

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Also, part of my culture is from Southeast Asia, Indo-China, or whatever you want to call it. We and my family have slaughtered our own cows, chicken, and pigs for consumption. I find it completely normal and we use almost every part of the animal.
Hey even am from there. But we worship cows and can't even think of killing them. But i wanted to know from the perspective of conscience. Maybe it's normal for you but idk why I feel it's not right.
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Those animals exist for human consumption. Their purpose is literally to be grown and slaughtered for our substanance.

If your a vegan your technically doing harm to animals still. Seeing as the crop lands growing your veggies had to be cleared and the homes of the animals that lived there destroyed.

Unless you grow your own food and it goes farm to table.

But like julliete pointed out, do you own clothes? Do you own a car? Home furnishings? Shoes?

Difficult to play the moral high ground when child labor made those Nike’s on your feet...


Do you have such a high sense of entitlement to say that they just exist for our consumption? Yes we have made use of them for our consumption and have adopted unethical means to increase their supply to feed our demand for meat. But that does not mean they are there just for our consumption.

Yup that's our bloody capitalism without the basic ethics of humanity.
How are stating the facts ‘entitlement’?

Do some research on the evolution of farm animals. Without human intervention and engineering of these animals, they wouldn’t exist. Fact.
Yes they wouldn't be called farm animals then. Just animals.
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They. Wouldn’t. Exist.
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Also, part of my culture is from Southeast Asia, Indo-China, or whatever you want to call it. We and my family have slaughtered our own cows, chicken, and pigs for consumption. I find it completely normal and we use almost every part of the animal.
Hey even am from there. But we worship cows and can't even think of killing them. But i wanted to know from the perspective of conscience. Maybe it's normal for you but idk why I feel it's not right.
If you worship cows, then I’m assuming you’re Indian descent. Part of my family’s cultural background is from Laos and the people of Lao, or most of Southeast Asia are not vegetarian. We slaughter our own animals, rear them for food, as well as use their blood for food. I’ve grown up this way as long as I can remember and see nothing wrong with it at all. I also don’t think I’m immoral at all. I grew up Buddhist when I was younger and probably am one of the nicest and friendliest guy you could meet.

But it’s how you grew up. We both grew up differently, but I don’t think anyone who eats meat is any less than a person who consumes only plant and animal by-products.
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Yes I am from India. Yes I know most people from other Asian countries have meat as their main diet. And even here a lot of people are meat eaters I don't judge anyone on that. It's just when you think that a life is getting killed for your consumption and you won't be willing to do that yourself I feel it's morally wrong(not applied to you). But yeah everyone has their opinions and beliefs and no no one is less of a man since they eat meat. And i started thinking about these things since Saturn has been on me.
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No way. Buddhist monks eat meat as well
Just don’t call your steak ‘barney’ and while cooking don’t say ‘you looking good, Barney...you are sizzling good friend...’ and you are FINE!

Bon appetite! 👍
I call my steaks Layita because she’s a sexy hot Spanish lady😋
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That’s fine as long as you can eat her!

And I mean it in the best way possible...
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Also, part of my culture is from Southeast Asia, Indo-China, or whatever you want to call it. We and my family have slaughtered our own cows, chicken, and pigs for consumption. I find it completely normal and we use almost every part of the animal.
Hey even am from there. But we worship cows and can't even think of killing them. But i wanted to know from the perspective of conscience. Maybe it's normal for you but idk why I feel it's not right.
If you worship cows, then I’m assuming you’re Indian descent. Part of my family’s cultural background is from Laos and the people of Lao, or most of Southeast Asia are not vegetarian. We slaughter our own animals, rear them for food, as well as use their blood for food. I’ve grown up this way as long as I can remember and see nothing wrong with it at all. I also don’t think I’m immoral at all. I grew up Buddhist when I was younger and probably am one of the nicest and friendliest guy you could meet.

But it’s how you grew up. We both grew up differently, but I don’t think anyone who eats meat is any less than a person who consumes only plant and animal by-products.
Yes I am from India. Yes I know most people from other Asian countries have meat as their main diet. And even here a lot of people are meat eaters I don't judge anyone on that. It's just when you think that a life is getting killed for your consumption and you won't be willing to do that yourself I feel it's morally wrong(not applied to you). But yeah everyone has their opinions and beliefs and no no one is less of a man since they eat meat. And i started thinking about these things since Saturn has been on me.
There’s nothing wrong with feeling that meat consumption is bad. Lots of people feel that it’s wrong and lots of people don’t find it wrong at all. Both groups aren’t wrong for their own life choice either. Not everyone is going to agree with it because from you’re cultural background, meat consumption is wrong. I know lots of Indians also eat meat, I forgot what area to be honest, either North Indian or South Indian, I really can’t recall.
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Meat is allowed in my family. We don't have any restrictions on that. Both areas eat meat. Both have their own speciality in the way of preparing meat. With the north having a flavour of the Mughals. But yeah in South all kinds of meat are eaten compared to North. North people don't eat beef and pork.
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I don’t talk to my tuna salad! And you know...fish have feelings too...fk! I am not even drunk yet!

I would make tuna melt but have no tomatoes! Do you think veggies cry when you run knife into their juicy bodies?

Saladworks chain should be ashamed!

How DARE do they do that! Mitulating veggies? A sin! I mean their $ $ $ for salads...lmao

recently some scientists proved that vegetables "cry" when we cut them. they make some fluid that is toxic but not enough for humans.
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Well...how about air we breathe?

Does it have feelings too?

Any ‘scientific facts’ about that nonsense?

I think next is the pavements we walking on! Do they hurt if we wear stilettos?

Vey! Let’s just stop living...who are fornitnsay ‘i’...and raise your hand if it wouldn’t mind to be raised...

Why am I feeling like a bitch?

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I eat meat but those image of read meat look gross 😕

Chicken and fish at the moment for me
Lol chicken, fish and pork but I get my meats in a local farm.
Pig not good!

Makes you angry lol

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Lol red meat clogs your arteries is stay away from that.
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Yes and very dificult to digest ....

My dad told me about pig making you angry....I think he was Jewish in his last life haha. My natural doc told me to stay away from it too, so maybe I was

Oy vey! 🌟
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No way. Buddhist monks eat meat as well
Just don’t call your steak ‘barney’ and while cooking don’t say ‘you looking good, Barney...you are sizzling good friend...’ and you are FINE!

Bon appetite! 👍
I call my steaks Layita because she’s a sexy hot Spanish lady😋
That’s fine as long as you can eat her!

And I mean it in the best way possible...
My favorite part is biting the carne asada lips and stretching it. Then letting it go and watching it snap back😍😍😍
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Idiot! Lmao

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No way. Buddhist monks eat meat as well
Just don’t call your steak ‘barney’ and while cooking don’t say ‘you looking good, Barney...you are sizzling good friend...’ and you are FINE!

Bon appetite! 👍
I call my steaks Layita because she’s a sexy hot Spanish lady😋
That’s fine as long as you can eat her!

And I mean it in the best way possible...
My favorite part is biting the carne asada lips and stretching it. Then letting it go and watching it snap back😍😍😍
Idiot! Lmao

You are good regard! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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You haven’t ate Teena have you? Lol
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I eat meat but those image of read meat look gross 😕

Chicken and fish at the moment for me
Lol chicken, fish and pork but I get my meats in a local farm.
Pig not good!

Makes you angry lol

😡
Lol red meat clogs your arteries is stay away from that.
Yes and very dificult to digest ....

My dad told me about pig making you angry....I think he was Jewish in his last life haha. My natural doc told me to stay away from it too, so maybe I was

Oy vey! 🌟
Haha 🐖🐖🐖
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Also, part of my culture is from Southeast Asia, Indo-China, or whatever you want to call it. We and my family have slaughtered our own cows, chicken, and pigs for consumption. I find it completely normal and we use almost every part of the animal.
Hey even am from there. But we worship cows and can't even think of killing them. But i wanted to know from the perspective of conscience. Maybe it's normal for you but idk why I feel it's not right.
If you worship cows, then I’m assuming you’re Indian descent. Part of my family’s cultural background is from Laos and the people of Lao, or most of Southeast Asia are not vegetarian. We slaughter our own animals, rear them for food, as well as use their blood for food. I’ve grown up this way as long as I can remember and see nothing wrong with it at all. I also don’t think I’m immoral at all. I grew up Buddhist when I was younger and probably am one of the nicest and friendliest guy you could meet.

But it’s how you grew up. We both grew up differently, but I don’t think anyone who eats meat is any less than a person who consumes only plant and animal by-products.
Yes I am from India. Yes I know most people from other Asian countries have meat as their main diet. And even here a lot of people are meat eaters I don't judge anyone on that. It's just when you think that a life is getting killed for your consumption and you won't be willing to do that yourself I feel it's morally wrong(not applied to you). But yeah everyone has their opinions and beliefs and no no one is less of a man since they eat meat. And i started thinking about these things since Saturn has been on me.
There’s nothing wrong with feeling that meat consumption is bad. Lots of people feel that it’s wrong and lots of people don’t find it wrong at all. Both groups aren’t wrong for their own life choice either. Not everyone is going to agree with it because from you’re cultural background, meat consumption is wrong. I know lots of Indians also eat meat, I forgot what area to be honest, either North Indian or South Indian, I really can’t recall.
Meat is allowed in my family. We don't have any restrictions on that. Both areas eat meat. Both have their own speciality in the way of preparing meat. With the north having a flavour of the Mughals. But yeah in South all kinds of meat are eaten compared to North. North people don't eat beef and pork.
Ahhh that’s very interesting to know. I enjoy hearing about other people’s cultures. I find Indian culture very interesting as well and met a lot of good Indian people here in California

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Yeah me too. Hehe we are everywhere these days.
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Those animals exist for human consumption. Their purpose is literally to be grown and slaughtered for our substanance.

If your a vegan your technically doing harm to animals still. Seeing as the crop lands growing your veggies had to be cleared and the homes of the animals that lived there destroyed.

Unless you grow your own food and it goes farm to table.

But like julliete pointed out, do you own clothes? Do you own a car? Home furnishings? Shoes?

Difficult to play the moral high ground when child labor made those Nike’s on your feet...



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Being created with a purpose doesn't mean said purpose is acceptable.

Crops cause the death of animals, yes, and many of those lands are destined to feed cattle that is going to be slaughtered, causing the destruction of lands, habitats and therefore animals, and cattle itself. Many vegetarians/vegans don't support current industrialization of farms and crops and many grow their own veggetables as you say.

Vegan people I know try to not consume any product linked to animal suffering, child labour etc. they are pretty aware. Truth be told, these products are often pricey and it sucks. I personally don't condemn eating meat, but awareness is good.
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NOPE, We are the top of the food chain!

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Are you willing to kill for your food then?
No, unfortunately not 😢 I would have to do it caveman style and let the man go hunt and me stay in my cave. If I had to kill an animal, I'd probably just eat ants and eggs. I couldn't bear the thought of slaughtering an animal.


You want burgers? I got you fam. ::pulls out knife sharpener::
I'm on my way! 😆


I made it nice and medium just for you and look! What’s this? Some melted Gouda on top🤤
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