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I think this generations adults have a lot of bad habits that need to be unlearned??_.having said that I think there is much to learn from them such as what not to do??_and they have a lot to learn from their kids I think the younger generation are being used like a big generator to bring in the new and exciting

When it comes to the generation gap thingy I am so beyond taking shit from adults. I have a hairdressing teacher for a mother she never taught me anything except on how to do her roots, she loved her career and loved her students even more because they made her feel young, she would throw parties for them and they would be at my house getting drunk and id be getting drunk too sometimes when I was like 12, I was like the child she had to go back to that was looking after her even younger child??_... My dad is a self taught musician and speaks fijian he taught me none of those would rather drink sitting on the couch with his guitar daydreaming about being on stage ??_..I love adults in general I think they are great friends but they think they hide their insecurities or that I don't notice them and then they want to try and shut me out and condescend to me. and I'm like fine be like that!

I miss the adults of the 40s and the 50s they were just so glam back then and had completely separate lives to their children ??_.now days you can't tell the diff??_.I'm talking about in the western culture you know places where there are mcdonalds and happy meals that attract parents who want to buy their kids a cheap meal with a cheap toy to shut them up??_..those places are especially designed for that purpose and parents fall straight into it??_all the consumerism and advertising is just utter bullshit that the generation of today were force fed when they were kids and its now happening to our kids??_but our kids are getting smarter and faster and they are gonna wake up to this shit..

The only thing thing adults of today are good for are not thinking about their kids!!??_.whatever happened to preserving the world for our children and our children's children—_..no one thinks of the fucking children??_.its all bombs, whaling, global meltdown, nuclear power plants leaking in the pacific, and all while this shit is going on you have the adults sitting there with their finger up their ass and the other one pointing at themselves saying "what about me"?
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Its like with anything these days

you shut up, you mind your own business, you do your job and once all these things are able to be done then only then that it is I can do mine!

Yeh so get on with it coz I am sick of waiting around for people too lazy to be doing what they ought to

In reality it should have been done already and its only because of said few that nothing has eventuated yeh and dont blame that on me

couldve have instead of bithcing about everything but the kitchen sink be celebrating the success of our labours but noooo you people are to whinging for that to have happen, go blame a stick or voodoo omen
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All about respect when communicating, especially in the written form. 80% of communication is non verbal- so when one is posting on an internet forum a lot is missing and the only thing visible is what is typed. The reader then puts their own tone or emotions to what they are reading. Sometimes that can cause triggers in the reader and can cause a response that can be tainted for lack of a better word or can be delivered positively.

At times I am one of the harsh or blunt posters other have mentioned, I don't mean to be, but I do know I come across that way at times, so I try to inject a 🙂 to soften it. It's how I communicate. I try not to be rude however, there is a huge difference in a blunt delivery and a downright rude one. Sometimes posters don't see their own rudeness which in turn elicits the reactions they receive from others. Also, some posters think there shit don't stink- which causes me to crack up, because we are humans, we are not perfect.

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Also I am reaady to go so we need more workers /

also aries are good at organising and delegating tasks, the show so needs a few of them on the road

taurus to walk the walk, to get things laid down foundations to walk upon so everything else goes smoothly

all the rest of yous geminis to talk the talk, what is this without the gift of the gab needed in all situations

cancer to feel their way through any given situation allows the rest to go with how each and every situation feels

Leo to be the warmth that everyones need to help keep going through the most perilous of situations

Virgo (so help the god/s) cant be done without these picky faultfinding critters without these enduring qualities the show could not ever begin

libras to balance and make nice and negotiate important matters and the like

good sweet scorps to get down to the bottom of things (the nitty grittiness of things) to ensure a permanant solution can be applied also ensures smooth sailing

Sagittarius offer the long held scope of with which situations are to played to and within of without these philophical views there is no direction to any situation

/capricorns to get this happening they are the workers of the zodiac and are reliable to do what they say they do and actually get on with what they have to do

Aquarius are the peoples humanity without which any cause is lost, of which many new ideas are inverted and upheld in most situation/s

and the dear ol' pisces they are the idealists, the true heart of what the show is all, about the root of what any situaion is meaning on and of

Now without each and everyone of you peoples working towards and together this show can not be done, we need each other to do this, so stop your whinging and bitching towards each other its not helping one bit as you can see from this little thing that we all need everyone, regardless of their starsign, because it all works out that way

so hows about it and lets get on with the show?
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Posted by mfwb55
Also I am reaady to go so we need more workers /

also aries are good at organising and delegating tasks, the show so needs a few of them on the road

taurus to walk the walk, to get things laid down foundations to walk upon so everything else goes smoothly

all the rest of yous geminis to talk the talk, what is this without the gift of the gab needed in all situations

cancer to feel their way through any given situation allows the rest to go with how each and every situation feels

Leo to be the warmth that everyones need to help keep going through the most perilous of situations

Virgo (so help the god/s) cant be done without these picky faultfinding critters without these enduring qualities the show could not ever begin

libras to balance and make nice and negotiate important matters and the like

good sweet scorps to get down to the bottom of things (the nitty grittiness of things) to ensure a permanant solution can be applied also ensures smooth sailing

Sagittarius offer the long held scope of with which situations are to played to and within of without these philophical views there is no direction to any situation

/capricorns to get this happening they are the workers of the zodiac and are reliable to do what they say they do and actually get on with what they have to do

Aquarius are the peoples humanity without which any cause is lost, of which many new ideas are inverted and upheld in most situation/s

and the dear ol' pisces they are the idealists, the true heart of what the show is all, about the root of what any situaion is meaning on and of

Now without each and everyone of you peoples working towards and together this show can not be done, we need each other to do this, so stop your whinging and bitching towards each other its not helping one bit as you can see from this little thing that we all need everyone, regardless of their starsign, because it all works out that way

so hows about it and lets get on with the show?

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Young uns today seem spoiled and entitled. That is their generation. DeeG, you are right. It's our generation that spoiled them by being their friend and not demanding as much respect as perhaps we should have.

I think the generation coming up behind them will be different, though. They're not as spoiled as parents can't afford to give them as much. As children, they've lived through 9-1-1 and seen the economic collapse and massive job layoffs. I read somewhere they are more aligned with my grandparents generation and how the cycle is starting all over again.

Of course my generation, Generation X, were considered spoiled too. We grew up during easy economic times. My generation is the instant gratification generation - microwaves, VCRs, instant credit, instant oatmeal/coffee/potatoes, etc.

Yeah I completely agree about the instant gratification society it isn't just passed on to kids through parents solely by racking up debt to acquire the latest gadgetry. But it is also passed on through competitive sports. I mean when every child gets a trophy solely for just participating, its raising children to believe things are just given to them. And not through the value of hard work and trials. So later on in life as adults they can't handle set backs. I played competive sports all my years of growing up, and when I wasn't playing on a team friends and I would have enough gumption ourselves to set games up. I never see kids having games at schools and parks really, unless maybe there their for brother or sisters game.
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To me it only seems logical that the generation gap can also be due to the means of communication. I mean younger generation typical communication is social media and texting. So as far as respect is concerned, its easier to forget their is another person on the other end of your negative comments. Where as in person both individuals will be able to relate to each other more on a identifiable level, and more apt to show respect.
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In China and many other countries they respect their elders regardless. I'm assumimg this had to do with what happened to PA earlier today?



I think that approach is wrong though tbh. I come from a culture that believes the younger generation should respect the older generation regardless and some elders abuse it and try to dictate the younger generation. True I've always been respectful towards my parents and elders, it's only right. But that doesn't mean I have to agree with everything elders think or say. I'm still my own person with my own mind.



Not taking their advice and disrespecting them, are two different things.



I completely agree. I was just trying to point out that with countries where you see respect for elderly regardless not everything is perfect.
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I never said it was. I was just trying to point out that it's not unheard of in this world to be respectful of elders.

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I accept advice given that a person knows what the hell they're talking about. Older does not always mean wiser as everyone has differing life experiences. Someone older may have never experienced what someone younger has, and in turn the younger one is wiser in that area.

Depending on how much older, when it comes to dating and relationships, older may encourage an old mindset that was okay maybe 20-30 years ago, but today is no longer a widely held belief since, you know, things progress and they just refuse to evolve. This would likely apply to those who think being a beaten, agreeable housewife is the way to go when winning a guy over- just an example of a mindset then compared to now.

As for some of the typical experiences that everyone goes through as a part of growing up, if younger doesn't want to listen to older, fine. They'll just learn like everyone else did. Again, part of evolving into a mature adult.

In regard to this site in particular, it terrifies me when I find out that a certain user is x age (older) after the way they behave and the advice they gives. So no, older does not get instant respect because omgz I'm older and better. Not on DXP, anyway.
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I don't think the problem is a generation gap .... I can remember my mother, grandmother, aunts ... going back 50 years ... and the FACT that there have always been "generation" never seemed to cause this block.

Some, but, not like it is today.


The problem here is that the modern parents don't tell their children "no". Children are lead to believe that everything they do or say is right.

Now, these kids are young adults .... and they believe that they don't err ... because they've never had to actually sit on the bench and WORK for respect.
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I accept advice given that a person knows what the hell they're talking about. Older does not always mean wiser as everyone has differing life experiences. Someone older may have never experienced what someone younger has, and in turn the younger one is wiser in that area.

Depending on how much older, when it comes to dating and relationships, older may encourage an old mindset that was okay maybe 20-30 years ago, but today is no longer a widely held belief since, you know, things progress and they just refuse to evolve. This would likely apply to those who think being a beaten, agreeable housewife is the way to go when winning a guy over- just an example of a mindset then compared to now.

As for some of the typical experiences that everyone goes through as a part of growing up, if younger doesn't want to listen to older, fine. They'll just learn like everyone else did. Again, part of evolving into a mature adult.

In regard to this site in particular, it terrifies me when I find out that a certain user is x age (older) after the way they behave and the advice they gives. So no, older does not get instant respect because omgz I'm older and better. Not on DXP, anyway.



Showing respect for someone much older, doesn't mean they're better, it means you have some class and some manners. Even if that person acts like an ass. The fact that a young adult doesn't engage in a mouthing off contest, shows a great deal about their upbringing.
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Believe me I've been around long enough to see many of my friends loose it when they hit their mid-lives, they were so "MATURE" when they were younger, that they try to re-live their youth when they get older.

Its ok to keep some of that youthful quality as the years go by. Some youths on here are like old people. That's not maturity, that just crotchety. Maturity doesn't mean you have to sit home and read a book on a Saturday night, not at any age.

I always loved astrology, why should I not love it anymore, because I'm 48? that's just the stupidest thing I ever heard of. As for adults being on DXP, why not? I feel sorry for the youths that are on this site 24/7, that's not just immature but depressing.

I had an amazing social life in my teens, twenties, thirties and still going strong and living life in my forties.
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Posted by mrdesperado
To me it only seems logical that the generation gap can also be due to the means of communication. I mean younger generation typical communication is social media and texting. So as far as respect is concerned, its easier to forget their is another person on the other end of your negative comments. Where as in person both individuals will be able to relate to each other more on a identifiable level, and more apt to show respect.



This is a very good point.

Also, I am thankful that the internet and social media were not around when I was in my teens and early 20s. I can't imagine how more complicated that makes things.
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Posted by DeeG
As for adults being on DXP, why not? I feel sorry for the youths that are on this site 24/7, that's not just immature but depressing.
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I'm going to challenge this statement. How does simply spending a lot of time on the internet equal immaturity? I know people who spend a great deal of time on the internet but also do well in school, study, work hard, etc. If 'mature' is supposed to be acting like an adult, why do you say it's okay for adults to be here and don't talk about anything being wrong with them being on here 24/7 but when youths emulate that they're immature? That goes against the definition of maturity.

And just because you had good experiences being social does not mean it's immature or wrong to not be social, whether young or old. Some people enjoy the internet and are still responsible people.
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Personally I don't really enjoy a "social life." I have a few people who I talk to and hang out with, but I'm not a fan of being out in the crowd. While you're out, I'm learning something new that I wanted to. Guess what's crazy about that though? We're both doing what we want to do. You're building social skills and I'm building the skills to have the company to hire you with your social skills. 😛




yes..there is this discourse thing..one word is associated with positive values while the other is with negatives.. today, being extroverts is considered positive..the word extrovert is associated with things/values like - outgoing, sociable, outspoken, enjoy sports, outdoorsy activities, makes friends instantly & easily .. whilst the word introvert is associated with things like - quiet(or on the more positive note..reserved), shy(which is not true..some extroverts are shy as well..and actually being shy and being introvert are two different things), has a few or small circle of close friends
..which give one party power and superiority..by marginalizing the other party
probably it is because..this era we're living in now puts much emphasis positions or materials that can be earned...probably..with more ease..by being extrovert than being introvert ..like well, when one goes to a job interview..people tend to emphasize: I've got great interpersonal skills..I'm very sociable..I make acquaintances quickly and easily.. I love to socialize, etc.
so people..even without being aware of oneself..tend to think 'ah, being an extrovert is good..better than being an introvert'
yet probably this might be true in some sense..like in the area of job promotions..there probably is more chance and possibility for an extrovert to get ahead than an introvert..but then it's about the society and what values it promotes.. not about one being naturally either an introvert or extrovert
but it's also reported in researches that as people age, introverts tend to enjoy life more (as people get old..they cannot enjoy outdoorsy activities as much as they did when they were young..and expanding one's social circle becoming somewhat harder also) than extroverts tend to.. so each has some advantages/or disadvantages of being either(introvert/extrovert)
and other researches say among lots of successful CEOs or such people..there are many introverts, too..

so I think I'd say th
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Posted by Lucciferi
Personally I don't really enjoy a "social life." I have a few people who I talk to and hang out with, but I'm not a fan of being out in the crowd. While you're out, I'm learning something new that I wanted to. Guess what's crazy about that though? We're both doing what we want to do. You're building social skills and I'm building the skills to have the company to hire you with your social skills. 😛




so I think I'd say there's nothing wrong about being either introvert or extrovert..and neither has reason to feel superior over the other..or unnecessarily proud..
just my thought..
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I accept advice given that a person knows what the hell they're talking about. Older does not always mean wiser as everyone has differing life experiences. Someone older may have never experienced what someone younger has, and in turn the younger one is wiser in that area.

Depending on how much older, when it comes to dating and relationships, older may encourage an old mindset that was okay maybe 20-30 years ago, but today is no longer a widely held belief since, you know, things progress and they just refuse to evolve. This would likely apply to those who think being a beaten, agreeable housewife is the way to go when winning a guy over- just an example of a mindset then compared to now.

As for some of the typical experiences that everyone goes through as a part of growing up, if younger doesn't want to listen to older, fine. They'll just learn like everyone else did. Again, part of evolving into a mature adult.

In regard to this site in particular, it terrifies me when I find out that a certain user is x age (older) after the way they behave and the advice they gives. So no, older does not get instant respect because omgz I'm older and better. Not on DXP, anyway.



Showing respect for someone much older, doesn't mean they're better, it means you have some class and some manners. Even if that person acts like an ass. The fact that a young adult doesn't engage in a mouthing off contest, shows a great deal about their upbringing.
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For some people its impossible to show respect to a person who acts like an ass??_??_.The only older people I respect are people like Einstein, Buddah, Newton or any other elder who has their head stuck in their craft or practice not up their asses.
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To the introverts- I encourage you to get out of your comfort zone and try to fine tune your social skills. It will help you in your career and business dealings. I'm a little bit introverted myself so I understand your preferences. I used to be timid in social situations. Still am at times. After years in the workforce, I figured out that people who are comfortable socially tend to create the network necessary that helps them move ahead faster than others. Of course there are advantages of being introverted, but social skills open alot of doors. Just a thought to consider.
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As for adults being on DXP, why not? I feel sorry for the youths that are on this site 24/7, that's not just immature but depressing.
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I'm going to challenge this statement. How does simply spending a lot of time on the internet equal immaturity? I know people who spend a great deal of time on the internet but also do well in school, study, work hard, etc. If 'mature' is supposed to be acting like an adult, why do you say it's okay for adults to be here and don't talk about anything being wrong with them being on here 24/7 but when youths emulate that they're immature? That goes against the definition of maturity.

And just because you had good experiences being social does not mean it's immature or wrong to not be social, whether young or old. Some people enjoy the internet and are still responsible people.
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I was responding in jest, to a post a few pages back, that implied older people shouldn't be into astrology or be an the internet cus it's immature. I don't think its immature at all for anyone to be on the internet but moderation goes a long way.
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Gotcha dg ; )

And truecap, you should change the word 'introvert' into 'shy' in your post. Introverts can have great social skills it's just they get worn out from socializing too much and need a break. Extroverts are those who thrive around people instead of alone. They may not have great social skills either but just prefer to be around others even if they can't communicate well. Introverts don't automatically have bad social skills nor are they automatically shy.
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Gotcha dg ; )

And truecap, you should change the word 'introvert' into 'shy' in your post. Introverts can have great social skills it's just they get worn out from socializing too much and need a break. Extroverts are those who thrive around people instead of alone. They may not have great social skills either but just prefer to be around others even if they can't communicate well. Introverts don't automatically have bad social skills nor are they automatically shy.



No problem Scenic....I love the internet, glad it came around when it did, I don't get out as much as I used to. I really brushed up on my typing and spelling.
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Gotcha dg ; )

And truecap, you should change the word 'introvert' into 'shy' in your post. Introverts can have great social skills it's just they get worn out from socializing too much and need a break. Extroverts are those who thrive around people instead of alone. They may not have great social skills either but just prefer to be around others even if they can't communicate well. Introverts don't automatically have bad social skills nor are they automatically shy.




I agree.. extroverts and introverts are not about having one has social skills whilst the other does not.. being shy/being a wall flower is a different thing being an introvert ..the former two are socially awkward.. the latter is one who needs alone time more than the extroverts

psychologically..extroverts mean people who pick up energy around others, thus they recharge and get strength back by being around others..whilst introverts need to retreat to oneself to recharge..they often feel drained when spend too much time being around others..but this does not mean they avoid interactions other humans

and no one says 'you should be more introverted..' whilst they are many who say 'you should be more extroverted..' I think this is that discourse thing I mentioned in my previous post.. one should think what this phenomenon means behind

I consider myself a bit introverted as well..I enjoy socializing.. I get often promoted to take a position of a leader in many projects or clubs I participate, have no problem with approaching and striking a conversation with total strangers.. but there are certain intervals I must be left alone and recharge myself..and in that regard, I consider myself an introvert, not based on social skills I have
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Posted by Lucciferi
Personally I don't really enjoy a "social life." I have a few people who I talk to and hang out with, but I'm not a fan of being out in the crowd. While you're out, I'm learning something new that I wanted to. Guess what's crazy about that though? We're both doing what we want to do. You're building social skills and I'm building the skills to have the company to hire you with your social skills. 😛



LOL...I don't think so, by the time you're ready to have your own business, I'll be retiring. I didn't say I had an amazing social life to piss anyone off, yet I see a lot of defensive responses.

What? I'm not allowed to say I had an amazing Social Life? I'm sorry if that offends you, it wasn't meant to be taken that way. If you're gonna own your own business ya better toughen up, news flash,, "its a jungle out there."
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I had an amazing social life in my teens, twenties, thirties and still going strong and living life in my forties.



This honestly comes across as dimissive towards introverts. Not everyone wants an amazing social life, and some actually enjoy staying in and reading books.



Introverts are integral to society. They are truly thinkers and problem-solvers with unique and thoughtful perspectives.

And I'm not only saying this because my virgo is an introvert, and constantly inspired me to consider a new approach to something I always took for granted. It takes all kinds to make a world and, unfortunately, the world is biased towards extroverts.
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Ok, another response to my "Amazing Social Life as a youth" comment...sorry that offended you to. Bunch of cry babies on this sight.

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Gotcha dg ; )

And truecap, you should change the word 'introvert' into 'shy' in your post. Introverts can have great social skills it's just they get worn out from socializing too much and need a break. Extroverts are those who thrive around people instead of alone. They may not have great social skills either but just prefer to be around others even if they can't communicate well. Introverts don't automatically have bad social skills nor are they automatically shy.




I agree.. extroverts and introverts are not about having one has social skills whilst the other does not.. being shy/being a wall flower is a different thing being an introvert ..the former two are socially awkward.. the latter is one who needs alone time more than the extroverts

psychologically..extroverts mean people who pick up energy around others, thus they recharge and get strength back by being around others..whilst introverts need to retreat to oneself to recharge..they often feel drained when spend too much time being around others..but this does not mean they avoid interactions other humans

and no one says 'you should be more introverted..' whilst they are many who say 'you should be more extroverted..' I think this is that discourse thing I mentioned in my previous post.. one should think what this phenomenon means behind

I consider myself a bit introverted as well..I enjoy socializing.. I get often promoted to take a position of a leader in many projects or clubs I participate, have no problem with approaching and striking a conversation with total strangers.. but there are certain intervals I must be left alone and recharge myself..and in that regard, I consider myself an introvert, not based on social skills I have
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Yeh I'm an energetic person I exercise a lot I go out clubbing and I can dance until morning without getting tired??_.but having to talk to people, now thats draining??_.I once had a one way conversation with this chick telling me all the types of cigarettes she liked and I'm like "i really need to go to the toilet"??_and just went back to the dance floor and i'm unapologetic about doing that stuff??_..I love being alone but I don't like being lonely I remember reading somewhere and its true??_.I hate myself sometimes because I'm socially awkward
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Or maybe it's because we can't see each other. I'm sure if we were standing face to face things would be much different.



Yes this is possible. I was just reminded... very clearly put as well... from an older sagi woman,that she is 30 years my elder.

Thing is, though, that I have caught her getting caught up in her ego and sacrificing the more important picture for her ego and sticking to her guns. When I pointed it out to her she blew me off but I noticed from her actions afterwards that maybe she did hear what I said.
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That's a good thing, not saying a young person can't teach an old dog new tricks. Maybe she didn't want to admit it. You have always come across very well mannered that's just what I've noticed.