
Astrobyn
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Posted by CoffeeAndCreamPosted by Aqua-Marine
I don’t understand what you’re trying to say ?
the question is why 68 million mostly white Americans voted TRUMPclick to expand

Posted by CoffeeAndCreamPosted by Aqua-Marine
I don’t understand what you’re trying to say ?
the question is why 68 million mostly white Americans voted TRUMPclick to expand




Posted by aquarius_man_Posted by Astrobyn
Astrobyn: Just a broad observation of history... European's coming from a depressing culture with little path to prosperity, came over here looking to take whatever they could take, even if it takes a genocide.
Europeans, not European's. What depressing culture are you talking about? Little path to prosperity? LOLclick to expand


Posted by AstrobynPosted by CoffeeAndCreamPosted by Aqua-Marine
I don’t understand what you’re trying to say ?
the question is why 68 million mostly white Americans voted TRUMP
But is the root of that question really, why do American's vote for themselves rather then voting for their community.
I guess that's how I see the question.click to expand


Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by ooru-u
Probably, God has to throw miracles my way so I actually can figure things out here. Divine Mother, not necessary any more - I believe, now. Over and out - back to my seclusion, carry on.
Is @jazzymom your mum?click to expand

Posted by MrsElleCappysnatch
Can we just pick a planet and shuttle Trump and 68 million people to it?
That can be a new starting point.

Posted by MrsElleCappysnatch
Can we just pick a planet and shuttle Trump and 68 million people to it?
That can be a new starting point.

Posted by jazzykidPosted by MrsElleCappysnatch
Can we just pick a planet and shuttle Trump and 68 million people to it?
That can be a new starting point.
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Posted by MrsElleCappysnatch
Can we just pick a planet and shuttle Trump and 68 million people to it?
That can be a new starting point.

Posted by Ixi
Can we just press the easy button here and say if you can ignore morality as you throw a kid in a cage... one's amorality, in that instance, is in fact immorality?

Posted by Dread_Pirate_PhantaPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Ixi
Can we just press the easy button here and say if you can ignore morality as you throw a kid in a cage... one's amorality, in that instance, is in fact immorality?
What "cages" are you referring to specifically? Would you call Obama immoral?
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-democratic-national-convention-ap-fact-check-immigration-politics-2663c84832a13cdd7a8233becfc7a5f3
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/sep/13/joe-biden/fact-checking-biden-use-cages-during-obama-adminis/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN24117B
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/06/18/us/photo-migrant-child-cage-trnd/index.html
If someone stole a bunch of children and locked them in a prison right now, you wouldn't blame the people who built the prison building for adult offenders. That would be illogical.click to expand


Posted by Dread_Pirate_PhantaPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Dread_Pirate_PhantaPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Ixi
Can we just press the easy button here and say if you can ignore morality as you throw a kid in a cage... one's amorality, in that instance, is in fact immorality?
What "cages" are you referring to specifically? Would you call Obama immoral?
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-democratic-national-convention-ap-fact-check-immigration-politics-2663c84832a13cdd7a8233becfc7a5f3
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/sep/13/joe-biden/fact-checking-biden-use-cages-during-obama-adminis/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN24117B
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/06/18/us/photo-migrant-child-cage-trnd/index.html
If someone stole a bunch of children and locked them in a prison right now, you wouldn't blame the people who built the prison building for adult offenders. That would be illogical.
Splitting hairs, twisting words.
Just bc an area of space is defined by bars or wires doesn't "morally" make it a cage. You could choose to call it that, but ultimately you could choose not to aswell, and you'd be right either way.
If there were four walls instead of wires you wouldn't call it a cage, but is it any more or any less of a cage... morally speaking? It serves the same purpose. And provided those detained aren't treated like Guantanamo inmates I don't get the big deal. It's just being dishonest about what we're really talking about
The problem is putting children there. It's not semantics. They did it intentionally to cause pain so people would stop coming.click to expand

Posted by MrsElleCappysnatch
Omg....Space Force.
I will be so happy if that gets dissolved. It annoys me so much.

Posted by LadyNeptune
Don’t entertain the rape apologist. Pointless to go down that road and reason with the illogical @dread_pirate_phanta

Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Dread_Pirate_PhantaPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Dread_Pirate_PhantaPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Ixi
Can we just press the easy button here and say if you can ignore morality as you throw a kid in a cage... one's amorality, in that instance, is in fact immorality?
What "cages" are you referring to specifically? Would you call Obama immoral?
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-democratic-national-convention-ap-fact-check-immigration-politics-2663c84832a13cdd7a8233becfc7a5f3
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/sep/13/joe-biden/fact-checking-biden-use-cages-during-obama-adminis/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN24117B
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/06/18/us/photo-migrant-child-cage-trnd/index.html
If someone stole a bunch of children and locked them in a prison right now, you wouldn't blame the people who built the prison building for adult offenders. That would be illogical.
Splitting hairs, twisting words.
Just bc an area of space is defined by bars or wires doesn't "morally" make it a cage. You could choose to call it that, but ultimately you could choose not to aswell, and you'd be right either way.
If there were four walls instead of wires you wouldn't call it a cage, but is it any more or any less of a cage... morally speaking? It serves the same purpose. And provided those detained aren't treated like Guantanamo inmates I don't get the big deal. It's just being dishonest about what we're really talking about
The problem is putting children there. It's not semantics. They did it intentionally to cause pain so people would stop coming.
So let me get this straight: the administration low-key deliberately chose to display the caged kids as part of some scare campaign that would for sure compromize the administration's popularity but they figured it's more effective to scare ppl (who come from way scarier circumstances than a friggin "cage" in the free world!) than just go through the motions quietly and spare themselves the children-in-cages rep ?Give me a break! 😂click to expand
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Astrobyn: Just a broad observation of history... European's coming from a depressing culture with little path to prosperity, came over here looking to take whatever they could take, even if it takes a genocide. Keep taking what you can take. But also white or not this is human nature in a position of depleted resources. I guess you can argue people in a lower class vote the opposite for the same reason. Those are some of my thoughts
CC: so its human nature?
Astrobyn: People sometimes revere Native American culture comparing the difference to European cultures, because they share shit, and take care of old and disabled people and nobody goes to jail.
I often question, how the fuck do we really know what it was like. We killed like 90% and then de-programed the of them, and what we know is always viewed through the lens of white people or compared to white people.
But back to my depleted resources idea, Native American’s had an abundance of resources, and really didn’t know much hardship.... till you know the white people.
So this just comes down to the chimpanzee and bonobo theory. White people are assholes because they are just the chimpanzees that are all angry fighting each other because there’s not enough to go around.
So finally, yes I think it is human nature.