
xtina
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Posted by xcakePosted by CapTennPosted by xcake
Why did we turn into a monogamous society?
The Garden of Eden at creation.
It's been our Father's plan from the get-go.
Abraham had multiple wives.click to expand


Posted by ScorpioFishPosted by CapTennPosted by truecap
Interesting topic.
So, what about this thought: if a man is genetically wired to hunt, provide and reproduce, then they would naturally feel compelled compete for women. So women become the prize amongst the men?
If so, where did we women go wrong in not maintaining being the prize?
Feminization and the sexual revolution in the 60's. It's all been downhill from there.
I always see women ask "Where are the real men at?". Well, you didn't want us anymore.
Men haven't changed that much, women have however.
Bingo.
Unrestrained and uncontrolled, wild women eventually become sluts who aren't respected by ANYONE.
The sluttier the girl, the more lonely and miserable she becomes.
Reputation will destroy a girl once word gets out.click to expand

Posted by xcakePosted by CapTennPosted by xcakePosted by CapTennPosted by xcake
Why did we turn into a monogamous society?
The Garden of Eden at creation.
It's been our Father's plan from the get-go.
Abraham had multiple wives.
So? There was only One that was sinless.
So? What does that mean for the rest of the women who he had multiple children with?
Interesting how women are always described as the sinners, the devils who walk earth.
Eve, Jezebel, Lot...Just a few.
click to expand

Posted by WaterCupPosted by ScorpioFishPosted by CapTennPosted by truecap
Interesting topic.
So, what about this thought: if a man is genetically wired to hunt, provide and reproduce, then they would naturally feel compelled compete for women. So women become the prize amongst the men?
If so, where did we women go wrong in not maintaining being the prize?
Feminization and the sexual revolution in the 60's. It's all been downhill from there.
I always see women ask "Where are the real men at?". Well, you didn't want us anymore.
Men haven't changed that much, women have however.
Bingo.
Unrestrained and uncontrolled, wild women eventually become sluts who aren't respected by ANYONE.
The sluttier the girl, the more lonely and miserable she becomes.
Reputation will destroy a girl once word gets out.
IMO, most men like girls like that, but only to use them.click to expand

Posted by FoxPosted by MoonArtistPosted by Fox
The risks involved prevents me from saying sleeping around is okay for both men/women. Also, I don't think it creates good role-models for children/young adults. I feel like sex is losing meaning & by sleeping around, in a way, illustrates how easily people can use eachother and that it's okay to do so. I'm only 19 though, so...
I felt that way at your age. I'm seeing things in a much more different light now. It's more about learning who YOU are as an individual and what you want and like, not to mention how to interact with all the other different people out there and how they fit in your life or how they don't. Only experience and growing can teach you these things fully. 🙂
I think self-discovery is important in life, but to feel like someone would have to do it by sleeping around/potentially ending up with an STD, AIDS or the responsibility of having and taking care of a child is worrisome to me.click to expand

Posted by CapTennPosted by xcakePosted by CapTennPosted by xcakePosted by CapTennPosted by xcake
Why did we turn into a monogamous society?
The Garden of Eden at creation.
It's been our Father's plan from the get-go.
Abraham had multiple wives.
So? There was only One that was sinless.
So? What does that mean for the rest of the women who he had multiple children with?
Interesting how women are always described as the sinners, the devils who walk earth.
Eve, Jezebel, Lot...Just a few.
I don't ever see women described that way... EVER.
Don't know where you've been living? LOL
This should make you feel better. We're all sinners, boys and girls. Period.click to expand

Posted by MoonArtistPosted by FoxPosted by MoonArtistPosted by Fox
The risks involved prevents me from saying sleeping around is okay for both men/women. Also, I don't think it creates good role-models for children/young adults. I feel like sex is losing meaning & by sleeping around, in a way, illustrates how easily people can use eachother and that it's okay to do so. I'm only 19 though, so...
I felt that way at your age. I'm seeing things in a much more different light now. It's more about learning who YOU are as an individual and what you want and like, not to mention how to interact with all the other different people out there and how they fit in your life or how they don't. Only experience and growing can teach you these things fully. 🙂
I think self-discovery is important in life, but to feel like someone would have to do it by sleeping around/potentially ending up with an STD, AIDS or the responsibility of having and taking care of a child is worrisome to me.
That's why one should only engage in sex when one is comfortable with making sure protection is used. NEVER take the other party's word for anything. I personally think people should be mature enough to talk about whether or not they have an STD and if not, have the test results to back it up if need be.click to expand

Posted by NemesisPosted by WaterCupPosted by MontgomeryPosted by WaterCupPosted by aquapiscescusp
I don't know about how you ladies feel but I don't like a man who's been around with MANY women.
Me neither. That & a virgin.
heh.. exactly. 🙂
You also don't want someone humping your inner thigh, believing it's in? LOL!
OMG lmfao......😄 this is hilarious!!!!!!!!click to expand

Posted by tizianiPosted by xtina
or at least I believe so if we want to face the real problems at hand.
I can definitely agree in so far as it's not a competition for me either. I see a lot of people act with the Fear of Missing Out. Yes, maybe that kind of sales tactic does come from the media by and large, having been working in media sales myself.click to expand

Posted by ElusiveSoulPosted by Nemesis
and may i add Lilith - who was banned from Eden because she refused to be under Adam during sexual intercourse. she wanted to be on top.
How dare she?! 😛click to expand

Posted by tiziani
Every woman I've ever been in love with (not many) has had her slutty moments. As long as she feels comfortable to share all sides of herself with me, that's a great bond to have. I don't see why people - men or women - should live in fear of what they've done or what they get up to.
If I can't go home and tell my family about it, I don't do it. That's what works for me. No fear.

Posted by xtinaPosted by tiziani
Every woman I've ever been in love with (not many) has had her slutty moments. As long as she feels comfortable to share all sides of herself with me, that's a great bond to have. I don't see why people - men or women - should live in fear of what they've done or what they get up to.
If I can't go home and tell my family about it, I don't do it. That's what works for me. No fear.
People were made to fear and be ashamed of their sexuality... when stats said there is a higher rate of crime and violence where and when sexuality is repressed.click to expand



Posted by SlicksPosted by CapTennPosted by xcakePosted by CapTennPosted by xcakePosted by CapTennPosted by xcake
Why did we turn into a monogamous society?
The Garden of Eden at creation.
It's been our Father's plan from the get-go.
Abraham had multiple wives.
So? There was only One that was sinless.
So? What does that mean for the rest of the women who he had multiple children with?
Interesting how women are always described as the sinners, the devils who walk earth.
Eve, Jezebel, Lot...Just a few.
I don't ever see women described that way... EVER.
Don't know where you've been living? LOL
This should make you feel better. We're all sinners, boys and girls. Period.
in other words.. women tend to get the shorter end of the stick when it comes to moral judgements regarding marital issues. They're also more likely to be stigmatized due to being considered more "emotional" and "corruptible" compared men, who coincidentally, happen to make the rules. Well the powerful ones at least, but most of us internalize these ideas, men, women, children from all corners of society, to the extent where this is normalized and common sense to feel this way.click to expand

Posted by FoxIn a perfect world we would move on from this damned argument but you know someone always got to bring it up 😛Posted by MoonArtistPosted by FoxPosted by MoonArtistPosted by Fox
The risks involved prevents me from saying sleeping around is okay for both men/women. Also, I don't think it creates good role-models for children/young adults. I feel like sex is losing meaning & by sleeping around, in a way, illustrates how easily people can use eachother and that it's okay to do so. I'm only 19 though, so...
I felt that way at your age. I'm seeing things in a much more different light now. It's more about learning who YOU are as an individual and what you want and like, not to mention how to interact with all the other different people out there and how they fit in your life or how they don't. Only experience and growing can teach you these things fully. 🙂
I think self-discovery is important in life, but to feel like someone would have to do it by sleeping around/potentially ending up with an STD, AIDS or the responsibility of having and taking care of a child is worrisome to me.
That's why one should only engage in sex when one is comfortable with making sure protection is used. NEVER take the other party's word for anything. I personally think people should be mature enough to talk about whether or not they have an STD and if not, have the test results to back it up if need be.
In an ideal world this would be implemented. I can only hope that people stop focusing on gender and focus on the real issues here. I'm so bored with the whole male vs female shit. We have biological difference, aye - but we're all humans. It's time to move on from this outdated, useless argument IMO.click to expand

Posted by xtinaPosted by MoonArtistPosted by FoxPosted by MoonArtistPosted by Fox
The risks involved prevents me from saying sleeping around is okay for both men/women. Also, I don't think it creates good role-models for children/young adults. I feel like sex is losing meaning & by sleeping around, in a way, illustrates how easily people can use eachother and that it's okay to do so. I'm only 19 though, so...
I felt that way at your age. I'm seeing things in a much more different light now. It's more about learning who YOU are as an individual and what you want and like, not to mention how to interact with all the other different people out there and how they fit in your life or how they don't. Only experience and growing can teach you these things fully. 🙂
I think self-discovery is important in life, but to feel like someone would have to do it by sleeping around/potentially ending up with an STD, AIDS or the responsibility of having and taking care of a child is worrisome to me.
That's why one should only engage in sex when one is comfortable with making sure protection is used. NEVER take the other party's word for anything. I personally think people should be mature enough to talk about whether or not they have an STD and if not, have the test results to back it up if need be.
Agreed! But then you have all these naysayers that make ANYone feel guilty for enjoying their sexuality and these poor uneducated lot end up having STD spreading it... having babies and spreading it.click to expand


Posted by xcake
Ever question the intention of God? If God is so good he made temptress walk on earth.

Posted by Lucciferi
What if you live in an unrealistically sappy novel!?

Posted by Nemesis
god is man??s conscience - his guilt trip. a tool of regulation.

Posted by TMV
I'm also not entirely sure why so many people want to put sex on some grand pedestal. Stop and think about it for a moment.
And I mean really think about it. Until you reach the point where it gets gross with all the sweat, awkward sounds, and funky noises and bodily fluids.
All it really amounts to is skin rubbing against skin and stimulating some nerve endings that give a temporary happy is it's done right. Maybe some warm fuzzy "afterglow" hormones.
And that's it. The end. Goodnight Nashville, nothing more to see here.
Not that big of a deal unless you pay way too much attention to the glorified version portrayed by popular media and unrealistically sappy dime novels.

Posted by starloverPosted by ScorpioFishPosted by xcakePosted by CapTennPosted by xcake
Why did we turn into a monogamous society?
The Garden of Eden at creation.
It's been our Father's plan from the get-go.
Abraham had multiple wives.
Yeah, and I feel bad for any man who is stupid enough to try having marriages with multiple women.
Today's women are so selfish, catty and rude, that I can only handle one at a time.
I really do wish I could get into a time machine, and just get out of here.
And lots of men are ignorant insensitive *brains in their pants* cowards, so it works both ways Mr Fishy 🙂click to expand

Posted by ElusiveSoulPosted by Nemesis
and may i add Lilith - who was banned from Eden because she refused to be under Adam during sexual intercourse. she wanted to be on top.
How dare she?! 😛click to expand

Posted by TMV
I'm also not entirely sure why so many people want to put sex on some grand pedestal. Stop and think about it for a moment.
And I mean really think about it. Until you reach the point where it gets gross with all the sweat, awkward sounds, and funky noises and bodily fluids.
All it really amounts to is skin rubbing against skin and stimulating some nerve endings that give a temporary happy is it's done right. Maybe some warm fuzzy "afterglow" hormones.
And that's it. The end. Goodnight Nashville, nothing more to see here.
Not that big of a deal unless you pay way too much attention to the glorified version portrayed by popular media and unrealistically sappy dime novels.

Posted by NemesisPosted by MoonArtistPosted by Nemesis
god is man??s conscience - his guilt trip. a tool of regulation.
I think humanity has completely warped the whole notion of the divine in the first place. A huge box was put around it complete with limitations and man-made ideals. Definitely a tool of regulation!
that is how i see it, too. 🙂 woe behold those who thought outside the box ....click to expand

Posted by xcakePosted by WaterCupPosted by TMV
I'm also not entirely sure why so many people want to put sex on some grand pedestal. Stop and think about it for a moment.
And I mean really think about it. Until you reach the point where it gets gross with all the sweat, awkward sounds, and funky noises and bodily fluids.
All it really amounts to is skin rubbing against skin and stimulating some nerve endings that give a temporary happy is it's done right. Maybe some warm fuzzy "afterglow" hormones.
And that's it. The end. Goodnight Nashville, nothing more to see here.
Not that big of a deal unless you pay way too much attention to the glorified version portrayed by popular media and unrealistically sappy dime novels.
If it was that simple then we wouldn't be seeing all these stories about FWB here on this site. And it's not about "glorifying" sex. Some of us are actually taught to respect ourselves. By respect I mean, don't be like a grocery store free sample, tasted by many. It may be no big deal to you & others, but it is a big deal to some of us. We can't all be the same.
Our views change over time.
click to expand

Posted by NemesisPosted by enfant_terriblePosted by ElusiveSoulPosted by Nemesis
and may i add Lilith - who was banned from Eden because she refused to be under Adam during sexual intercourse. she wanted to be on top.
How dare she?! 😛
I like her already, lol
you lazy lion! 😄 of course you would!click to expand

Posted by XXMR2NICEXX
We've all heard of the double standard where men are studs and women are sluts if they get around blah blah blah.
But I was wondering if women look down on men who sleep around or think of guys as slutty or as womanizers or players if they get around too much.

Posted by WaterCup
If it was that simple then we wouldn't be seeing all these stories about FWB here on this site. And it's not about "glorifying" sex. Some of us are actually taught to respect ourselves. By respect I mean, don't be like a grocery store free sample, tasted by many. It may be no big deal to you & others, but it is a big deal to some of us. We can't all be the same.

Posted by xtina
I really don't understand this competition between men and women?? I know men are feeling less validated now because of women being in the work force and on top of that social media programing women into believing they need to marry their knight and prince in shining armor.
But can't we be adults about this and look at ALL of this from an OBJECTIVE perspective? Women! Stop your entitled BUULLshit. If you want your damn equality you have to work at it just like men! You aren't entitled to SHIIIT! And if you continue to feel entitled than you really don't want equality for the sexes you want the advantage for women and ONLY women.
MEN!! Quit your whining and learn to exercise some fuucking compassion. Do you realize society has women in a vice gripe to be the PERFECT superwoman (we have to be skinny, beautiful, cook, clean, raise kids, and be strong independent career women to feel validated??) I'm not saying it's a good excuse but it's women like me that have awaken to these double standards that are trying to make a difference.., and you know something like that isn't going to rewrite itself over night.
The world needs a little more compassion and understanding from both sides. This is not a black and white world y'all! It has colors!! LOTS and LOTS of it, you just got to open your eyes 🙂

Posted by NemesisPosted by MoonArtistPosted by NemesisPosted by MoonArtistPosted by Nemesis
god is man??s conscience - his guilt trip. a tool of regulation.
I think humanity has completely warped the whole notion of the divine in the first place. A huge box was put around it complete with limitations and man-made ideals. Definitely a tool of regulation!
that is how i see it, too. 🙂 woe behold those who thought outside the box ....
That makes us "people who color outside the lines". WOOHOO! Lets scribble a bit 😄
lol!
with crayons or permanent felt tip markers? 😄click to expand

Posted by TMV
Shame is a great factor here, whether it comes from social interactions or the partner, if a woman feels like she is going to be shamed for expressing herself and her wants she is far less likely to let her —freak flag fly?? so to speak. Of course there are more aggressive women out there that don't worry about these issues but they??re less common than the public would like to believe so we end with a general sense that women are more likely to sexually enjoy themselves in the confines of a monogamous relationship but the reasons for why are taken out of context.
I won't even get started on the lack of education about female sexuality. It's nothing short of tragic how many women out there don't even know how their own bodies function.

Posted by duchessedenemours
I disagree that it takes skill to get laid for a woman. All you have to do is show up at a bar and someone will want to screw you.

Posted by aquapiscescusp
I don't know about how you ladies feel but I don't like a man who's been around with MANY women.

Posted by duchessedenemoursPosted by TMVPosted by duchessedenemours
I disagree that it takes skill to get laid for a woman. All you have to do is show up at a bar and someone will want to screw you.
Unless you're me apparently LOL. I must be the only woman on the planet that has to actually for it. 😛
Aww you can ask me anytime! I've got my glitter and muffins ready!click to expand

Posted by TMVPosted by WaterCup
If it was that simple then we wouldn't be seeing all these stories about FWB here on this site. And it's not about "glorifying" sex. Some of us are actually taught to respect ourselves. By respect I mean, don't be like a grocery store free sample, tasted by many. It may be no big deal to you & others, but it is a big deal to some of us. We can't all be the same.
And this is an example of what I mean by "shaming". Why assume that because a woman enjoys sexual pleasure and the biological workings of her own body that she has no self respect? Why assume that sex isn't a "big deal" to her? Conversely, I would expect it to be of great importance to her or there wouldn't be any logical reason to pursue sex and that she must have a strong sense of respect for herself and her boundaries or else she would become one of these clingers who refuse to acknowledge their own faults being played out in FWB relationships.
I never stated that everyone is or should be the same, or that everyone does or should enjoy the same thing. I encourage people to find out what works for themselves and develop their own opinions rather than blindly follow "teachings". Question everything. And I also don't put others down where they differ from my own line of thinking.click to expand

Posted by WaterCup
I don't know how promiscuous women feel or think, so I can't speak for them. Only they know if they have self-respect or not & etc. My own reasons for not sleeping around are based on my own self-respect. Something inside me doesn't allow me to give myself away just like that.

Posted by xcakePosted by WaterCupPosted by xcakePosted by WaterCupPosted by TMV
I'm also not entirely sure why so many people want to put sex on some grand pedestal. Stop and think about it for a moment.
And I mean really think about it. Until you reach the point where it gets gross with all the sweat, awkward sounds, and funky noises and bodily fluids.
All it really amounts to is skin rubbing against skin and stimulating some nerve endings that give a temporary happy is it's done right. Maybe some warm fuzzy "afterglow" hormones.
And that's it. The end. Goodnight Nashville, nothing more to see here.
Not that big of a deal unless you pay way too much attention to the glorified version portrayed by popular media and unrealistically sappy dime novels.
If it was that simple then we wouldn't be seeing all these stories about FWB here on this site. And it's not about "glorifying" sex. Some of us are actually taught to respect ourselves. By respect I mean, don't be like a grocery store free sample, tasted by many. It may be no big deal to you & others, but it is a big deal to some of us. We can't all be the same.
Our views change over time.
Maybe with some people. My views may change on some topics, but not with sex. I'd rather eat broken glass than be that casual about sex.
Where did your views come from? It must have rooted from somewhere.click to expand

Posted by TMVPosted by WaterCup
I don't know how promiscuous women feel or think, so I can't speak for them. Only they know if they have self-respect or not & etc. My own reasons for not sleeping around are based on my own self-respect. Something inside me doesn't allow me to give myself away just like that.
Gotta do what's right for you. It's all glitter and rainbows after that when you can pave your own path in life.click to expand


Posted by XXMR2NICEXX
3 Third, men have evolutionary reasons to be programmed to sleep around. A lot of women roll their eyes when they hear that men are —hard-wired?? to sleep around. But from an evolutionary standpoint, it makes total sense. If the two primal drives of humans are to survive and to reproduce, nothing leads to maximum reproduction like one man sleeping with multiple women. If one women slept with many men, in a nine month period, she would still only get pregnant just once. Nine months of rampant promiscuity would give the same result as nine months of highly sexed monogamy: one pregnancy. Now if one man sleeps with many women, you can get many pregnancies. The more women he sleeps with, the more pregnancies. So from an evolutionary standpoint, there are concrete advantages to men sleeping around with multiple partners rather than women.





Posted by FoxPosted by aquapiscescusp
I don't know about how you ladies feel but I don't like a man who's been around with MANY women.
I feel the same.click to expand

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in the bigger picture the greater source is the media... women on women hate is a means to keep the platform a float. IMO it is with men NOT all men but there has been the recent movement of men (MRM) to counteract the feminist movement, also you get post likes this and the snarky comments from men on this... not saying its wrong but there has been enough of dissatisfied men to make this kind of movement happen. I'm not saying there should be competition mind you but you see BOTH sexes putting the other down and it should NOT be that way... or at least I