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It is kinda weird that the last 2 rebates to US citizens will have been by Republican presidents. While the last debate Iran received was from a Democratic US president.

Lame sauce. The world didn't fall apart under the last Democratic president.

We also didnt have everyone wanting to shut down the world during the H1N1 virus. Iran says thanks though
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H1N1 didn't have a R-Naught that could cripple healthcare infrastructure.
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It is kinda weird that the last 2 rebates to US citizens will have been by Republican presidents. While the last debate Iran received was from a Democratic US president.

Lame sauce. The world didn't fall apart under the last Democratic president.

We also didnt have everyone wanting to shut down the world during the H1N1 virus. Iran says thanks though

H1N1 didn't have a R-Naught that could cripple healthcare infrastructure.

Let's be real though, we dont really know when the virus actually got here therefore numbers are going to be extremely hard to get accurate Several well respected doctors in my area are adamant that late October's beginning of walking pneumonia diagnoses were in fact the virus. We just didnt know what it was at the time. If that's the case the numbers get skewed.
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I'm in a profession that has to rely on the numbers given by the healthcare community. We have precautions for a reason. I've been in the trenches for years and have seen what even the slightest increase in patient flow can do to a facility... and that's with the ability to transfer out, which we won't have if every facility in the nation is met with the same increase.

Hope that makes sense.
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.


Yo I'm trying to get some money. If they don't want their checks.. I'll gladly accept them.
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I’m not understanding what Trump is doing so wrong as it pertains to -this- particular situation. Every country is struggling and had issues accessing tests, and I don’t see us any worse off. Europe seems to be struggling a lot more right now, condemning Trump and then doing the exact thing he did, two weeks later. So what is it? Can someone explain please.

It's very simple: both his and his administration's lack of give a shit put us behind roughly three weeks in real time. In viral time, it really set us back 3 months.

At this point we're putting Band-Aids over a gaping wound. I guess if you put enough Band-Aids, even the largest wound will be covered but I wouldn't call it a solution to your problem.

We are one of the richest countries on planet Earth and we completely screwed the pooch on this one. I can't wait for somebody to start digging when this all settles out and we find out that the main office is responsible for coordinating our efforts against this virus or any other, response teams were shut down to have border wall funding.

We should have been on this since January. We are now halfway into March and we are following the exact trajectory that Italy is on right now. Somebody asked the Italians how they're doing...

What more could have been done, in January, when China wasn’t even really cooperating with other countries? Their own media is whistleblowing, right now, about how their government ordered an entire coverup - made to destroy samples, punished the people who were getting word out, etc.

It wasn’t until the end of January that I feel anyone had a clue of what was truly going on and what the extent was. And then it was too late. And it’s too late for every other country too, because literally no one else has this under control right now. So I don’t necessarily agree with this being a TRUMP problem. At all. Only if everyone else was way ahead of the game would this argument make more sense to me.

Doctors in my area, and I'm beginning to see more say the same in other areas, say since October there has been a surge in walking pneumonia diagnoses they truly believe was the virus. We just didnt know what it was at the time, and "Walking Pneumonia" is kind of a catchall diagnosis for respiratory illness.
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Exactly what I've been saying all a long...this shit didn't just pop up all the sudden. It's been here...and I bet due to all the holiday travel.
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.

Yo I'm trying to get some money. If they don't want their checks.. I'll gladly accept them.
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No...you and I both know exactly what you're doing. Stirring the pot....
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.

Yo I'm trying to get some money. If they don't want their checks.. I'll gladly accept them.

No...you and I both know exactly what you're doing. Stirring the pot....
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And trying to get some money...
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.

You thought it was a hoax like three days ago. Seriously?
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No, I said I didn't know what to believe but I definitely dont believe what I'm told like majority of people.
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.

You thought it was a hoax like three days ago. Seriously?

No, I said I didn't know what to believe but I definitely dont believe what I'm told like majority of people.

It was fine to play politics when your side was telling us all to shut up and not worry about it. It's our turn. We were fucking right.
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When did I play politics and when did I get a side...this is new information to me...did CNN tell you?
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.

Do you understand how the two are related? Can you explain how the government responds to this situation, is not relevant? Because there are millions of people with a lot at stake right now. Expecting/needing our government to make crucial decisions about their lives.
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And you just said they are doing the best they can given the circumstances...what more can you expect. Do you think bashing each other is helping? Do you think it's changing anything? Is everyone suddenly healed now because of this discussion?
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.

You thought it was a hoax like three days ago. Seriously?

No, I said I didn't know what to believe but I definitely dont believe what I'm told like majority of people.

It was fine to play politics when your side was telling us all to shut up and not worry about it. It's our turn. We were fucking right.

When did I play politics and when did I get a side...this is new information to me...did CNN tell you?
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How is making jokes about this serious situation any better?
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.

You thought it was a hoax like three days ago. Seriously?

No, I said I didn't know what to believe but I definitely dont believe what I'm told like majority of people.

It was fine to play politics when your side was telling us all to shut up and not worry about it. It's our turn. We were fucking right.

When did I play politics and when did I get a side...this is new information to me...did CNN tell you?

I read your posts.
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And? If you actually did...you'd know i don't have a side. I don't even vote and never have or will. I morally can't be apart of the bs on both sides and it brings out the ugly ...like really ugly in everyone. No thanks
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He also said the disease was a democratic hoax and convinced people not to take it seriously for weeks.

Edit: My bad, "Democrat hoax" because Republicans can't spell.

He didn’t say that. I actually watched that myself. He was referring to the media blasting his administration on its response, as the “next hoax” (previously referring to the impeachment trials he calls a hoax)

The message that got out and that was repeated on Fox News was that the extent of the crisis was a hoax. I heard him say over and over that the risk to Americans was very low. I heard him say that there were only 15 cases, and they were all getting better, and it was going to down to zero in the next couple weeks.

I guess Biden did make up the charge against Trump over the tests, so I'm sorry I repeated it. https://khn.org/news/biden-falsely-blames-trump-administration-for-rejecting-who-coronavirus-test-kits-that-were-never-offered/. Regardless, the Germans had a protocol that we didn't use, and the version we developed was flawed, so our people did fuck up...just not sure why.

I still can’t eat up the “it’s all Trump’s fault” narrative. Okay but I can definitely agree that absolutely EVERY country could have handled things better in their own right. There’s a lot of fucked-upness going on. I’m following a few countries specifically and have been reading their newspapers. It’s great to get other perspectives, lots of mistakes going on. I think we are all doing our best, and I think Trump is doing alright. I’ve been watching his press briefings. Who knows.. if what he says they are doing is all bullshit... has yet to be determined. We are going to have to wait and see how this thing pans out.
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I think in general it's his words and how his base responds to them. As in.. downplaying the severity of the situation and continuing to go about their daily rituals like nothing is going on.
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.

You thought it was a hoax like three days ago. Seriously?

No, I said I didn't know what to believe but I definitely dont believe what I'm told like majority of people.

It was fine to play politics when your side was telling us all to shut up and not worry about it. It's our turn. We were fucking right.

When did I play politics and when did I get a side...this is new information to me...did CNN tell you?

How is making jokes about this serious situation any better?
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How is it not? Again...as I said, I'll do my part because I already do but I don't necessarily believe everything being reported. But you can believe all you want on what's being fed to you. The government has never lied or steered us wrong before.
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.

You thought it was a hoax like three days ago. Seriously?

No, I said I didn't know what to believe but I definitely dont believe what I'm told like majority of people.

It was fine to play politics when your side was telling us all to shut up and not worry about it. It's our turn. We were fucking right.

When did I play politics and when did I get a side...this is new information to me...did CNN tell you?

How is making jokes about this serious situation any better?

How is it not? Again...as I said, I'll do my part because I already do but I don't necessarily believe everything being reported. But you can believe all you want on what's being fed to you. The government has never lied or steered us wrong before.
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I'm not being fed anything. These are numbers and statistics I deal with daily from professionals in my field.

Making light of the situation is no better than spreading misinformation.
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.

You thought it was a hoax like three days ago. Seriously?

No, I said I didn't know what to believe but I definitely dont believe what I'm told like majority of people.

It was fine to play politics when your side was telling us all to shut up and not worry about it. It's our turn. We were fucking right.

When did I play politics and when did I get a side...this is new information to me...did CNN tell you?

How is making jokes about this serious situation any better?

How is it not? Again...as I said, I'll do my part because I already do but I don't necessarily believe everything being reported. But you can believe all you want on what's being fed to you. The government has never lied or steered us wrong before.

I'm not being fed anything. These are numbers and statistics I deal with daily from professionals in my field.

Making light of the situation is no better than spreading misinformation.
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Where the numbers come from in the first place...what based off government agencies... because again, they never lie. They could have you literally running in circles on your data and statistics and laughing about it because we are that gullible. They can literally feed you any numbers they want and you'd never be the wiser...ever.
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.

Do you understand how the two are related? Can you explain how the government responds to this situation, is not relevant? Because there are millions of people with a lot at stake right now. Expecting/needing our government to make crucial decisions about their lives.

And you just said they are doing the best they can given the circumstances...what more can you expect. Do you think bashing each other is helping? Do you think it's changing anything? Is everyone suddenly healed now because of this discussion?

Who is bashing? I asked a question to try to gain understandomg about this anti-Trump sentiment.

Why are you so opposed to people having a conversation about this right now?

Some people are trapped at home and want to discuss these things. For everything else, there are other threads about people being left by their spouse and the front page for memes.
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Because this thread wasn't based on a legitimate discussion....
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.

You thought it was a hoax like three days ago. Seriously?

No, I said I didn't know what to believe but I definitely dont believe what I'm told like majority of people.

It was fine to play politics when your side was telling us all to shut up and not worry about it. It's our turn. We were fucking right.

When did I play politics and when did I get a side...this is new information to me...did CNN tell you?

How is making jokes about this serious situation any better?

How is it not? Again...as I said, I'll do my part because I already do but I don't necessarily believe everything being reported. But you can believe all you want on what's being fed to you. The government has never lied or steered us wrong before.

I'm not being fed anything. These are numbers and statistics I deal with daily from professionals in my field.

Making light of the situation is no better than spreading misinformation.

Where the numbers come from in the first place...what based off government agencies... because again, they never lie. They could have you literally running in circles on your data and statistics and laughing about it because we are that gullible. They can literally feed you any numbers they want and you'd never be the wiser...ever.
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You don't understand the concept of healthcare statistics and physician reviewed journals. It's okay.
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.

You thought it was a hoax like three days ago. Seriously?

No, I said I didn't know what to believe but I definitely dont believe what I'm told like majority of people.

It was fine to play politics when your side was telling us all to shut up and not worry about it. It's our turn. We were fucking right.

When did I play politics and when did I get a side...this is new information to me...did CNN tell you?

How is making jokes about this serious situation any better?

How is it not? Again...as I said, I'll do my part because I already do but I don't necessarily believe everything being reported. But you can believe all you want on what's being fed to you. The government has never lied or steered us wrong before.

I'm not being fed anything. These are numbers and statistics I deal with daily from professionals in my field.

Making light of the situation is no better than spreading misinformation.

Where the numbers come from in the first place...what based off government agencies... because again, they never lie. They could have you literally running in circles on your data and statistics and laughing about it because we are that gullible. They can literally feed you any numbers they want and you'd never be the wiser...ever.
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Ps.. before you go any further. The CDC and government agencies get their numbers from us, not the other way around.
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.

You thought it was a hoax like three days ago. Seriously?

No, I said I didn't know what to believe but I definitely dont believe what I'm told like majority of people.

It was fine to play politics when your side was telling us all to shut up and not worry about it. It's our turn. We were fucking right.

When did I play politics and when did I get a side...this is new information to me...did CNN tell you?

How is making jokes about this serious situation any better?

How is it not? Again...as I said, I'll do my part because I already do but I don't necessarily believe everything being reported. But you can believe all you want on what's being fed to you. The government has never lied or steered us wrong before.

I'm not being fed anything. These are numbers and statistics I deal with daily from professionals in my field.

Making light of the situation is no better than spreading misinformation.
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That's the thing...we really do not know what the situation is except what we are being told. Anyone claiming they have it and are being shown on TV could very well be getting paid to lie (cause that's never happened before), everything on TV can be manipulated to cause fear and panic or relief and happiness. Bottom line...we have no real idea of what is going on.
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He also said the disease was a democratic hoax and convinced people not to take it seriously for weeks.

Edit: My bad, "Democrat hoax" because Republicans can't spell.

He didn’t say that. I actually watched that myself. He was referring to the media blasting his administration on its response, as the “next hoax” (previously referring to the impeachment trials he calls a hoax)

The message that got out and that was repeated on Fox News was that the extent of the crisis was a hoax. I heard him say over and over that the risk to Americans was very low. I heard him say that there were only 15 cases, and they were all getting better, and it was going to down to zero in the next couple weeks.

I guess Biden did make up the charge against Trump over the tests, so I'm sorry I repeated it. https://khn.org/news/biden-falsely-blames-trump-administration-for-rejecting-who-coronavirus-test-kits-that-were-never-offered/. Regardless, the Germans had a protocol that we didn't use, and the version we developed was flawed, so our people did fuck up...just not sure why.

I still can’t eat up the “it’s all Trump’s fault” narrative. Okay but I can definitely agree that absolutely EVERY country could have handled things better in their own right. There’s a lot of fucked-upness going on. I’m following a few countries specifically and have been reading their newspapers. It’s great to get other perspectives, lots of mistakes going on. I think we are all doing our best, and I think Trump is doing alright. I’ve been watching his press briefings. Who knows.. if what he says they are doing is all bullshit... has yet to be determined. We are going to have to wait and see how this thing pans out.

I think in general it's his words and how his base responds to them. As in.. downplaying the severity of the situation and continuing to go about their daily rituals like nothing is going on.

See, I don’t understand that either. Go about their days? He has had a press briefing every single day telling people exactly NOT to do that.
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Read through Supes' and TheSag's post history for the pat few days to get a better understanding. That is his "base".
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.

You thought it was a hoax like three days ago. Seriously?

No, I said I didn't know what to believe but I definitely dont believe what I'm told like majority of people.

It was fine to play politics when your side was telling us all to shut up and not worry about it. It's our turn. We were fucking right.

When did I play politics and when did I get a side...this is new information to me...did CNN tell you?

How is making jokes about this serious situation any better?

How is it not? Again...as I said, I'll do my part because I already do but I don't necessarily believe everything being reported. But you can believe all you want on what's being fed to you. The government has never lied or steered us wrong before.

I'm not being fed anything. These are numbers and statistics I deal with daily from professionals in my field.

Making light of the situation is no better than spreading misinformation.

Where the numbers come from in the first place...what based off government agencies... because again, they never lie. They could have you literally running in circles on your data and statistics and laughing about it because we are that gullible. They can literally feed you any numbers they want and you'd never be the wiser...ever.

Ps.. before you go any further. The CDC and government agencies get their numbers from us, not the other way around.
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And you don't think your health professionals can be bought and numbers be skewed. You don't think the CDC and government agencies don't have people in place as your health professionals? Hell...the numbers and statistics are skewed right now... everywhere. Open your eyes and mind...funny to have to tell a Scorpio that.
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Will the not my president gang do the same?

Exactly. They’ll take it and say he’s trash tomorrow

Can I have your socialism check if they get sent out?

Nope. Mines going to Wounded Warriors, a good cause.
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May I suggest you use it to help buy supplies for your local VA hospital where it can actually be used now in a time of crisis.
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.

You thought it was a hoax like three days ago. Seriously?

No, I said I didn't know what to believe but I definitely dont believe what I'm told like majority of people.

It was fine to play politics when your side was telling us all to shut up and not worry about it. It's our turn. We were fucking right.

When did I play politics and when did I get a side...this is new information to me...did CNN tell you?

How is making jokes about this serious situation any better?

How is it not? Again...as I said, I'll do my part because I already do but I don't necessarily believe everything being reported. But you can believe all you want on what's being fed to you. The government has never lied or steered us wrong before.

I'm not being fed anything. These are numbers and statistics I deal with daily from professionals in my field.

Making light of the situation is no better than spreading misinformation.

Where the numbers come from in the first place...what based off government agencies... because again, they never lie. They could have you literally running in circles on your data and statistics and laughing about it because we are that gullible. They can literally feed you any numbers they want and you'd never be the wiser...ever.

Ps.. before you go any further. The CDC and government agencies get their numbers from us, not the other way around.

And you don't think your health professionals can be bought and numbers be skewed. You don't think the CDC and government agencies don't have people in place as your health professionals? Hell...the numbers and statistics are skewed right now... everywhere. Open your eyes and mind...funny to have to tell a Scorpio that.

Which numbers are skewed?
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The lotto numbers...wtf do you think? 🙄
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This isn’t socialism.

I want to see all the “Orange man is bad” folk return theirs.

So you're going to accept a check from the government, that your didn't work for, and is funded by tax payer money?

Well I am a tax payer, and you know this isn’t socialism, right?

But I don’t know if I’m going to take it. I might donate part of it. I haven’t really spent much thought on it.

What’s happening on this thread, which represents the fringe left of the Democrat party, is that some desperate socialists are excited about getting a check in the mail. So they’re calling it “socialism” and trying to make a point about it. No. This is by Bernie loses.
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Keep changing your definition of socialism to suit your agenda. lol
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He also said the disease was a democratic hoax and convinced people not to take it seriously for weeks.

Edit: My bad, "Democrat hoax" because Republicans can't spell.

He didn’t say that. I actually watched that myself. He was referring to the media blasting his administration on its response, as the “next hoax” (previously referring to the impeachment trials he calls a hoax)

The message that got out and that was repeated on Fox News was that the extent of the crisis was a hoax. I heard him say over and over that the risk to Americans was very low. I heard him say that there were only 15 cases, and they were all getting better, and it was going to down to zero in the next couple weeks.

I guess Biden did make up the charge against Trump over the tests, so I'm sorry I repeated it. https://khn.org/news/biden-falsely-blames-trump-administration-for-rejecting-who-coronavirus-test-kits-that-were-never-offered/. Regardless, the Germans had a protocol that we didn't use, and the version we developed was flawed, so our people did fuck up...just not sure why.

I still can’t eat up the “it’s all Trump’s fault” narrative. Okay but I can definitely agree that absolutely EVERY country could have handled things better in their own right. There’s a lot of fucked-upness going on. I’m following a few countries specifically and have been reading their newspapers. It’s great to get other perspectives, lots of mistakes going on. I think we are all doing our best, and I think Trump is doing alright. I’ve been watching his press briefings. Who knows.. if what he says they are doing is all bullshit... has yet to be determined. We are going to have to wait and see how this thing pans out.

I think in general it's his words and how his base responds to them. As in.. downplaying the severity of the situation and continuing to go about their daily rituals like nothing is going on.

See, I don’t understand that either. Go about their days? He has had a press briefing every single day telling people exactly NOT to do that.

Read through Supes' and TheSag's post history for the pat few days to get a better understanding. That is his "base".

The logical ones who use facts, not emotions.

That’s his base
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.

You thought it was a hoax like three days ago. Seriously?

No, I said I didn't know what to believe but I definitely dont believe what I'm told like majority of people.

It was fine to play politics when your side was telling us all to shut up and not worry about it. It's our turn. We were fucking right.

When did I play politics and when did I get a side...this is new information to me...did CNN tell you?

How is making jokes about this serious situation any better?

How is it not? Again...as I said, I'll do my part because I already do but I don't necessarily believe everything being reported. But you can believe all you want on what's being fed to you. The government has never lied or steered us wrong before.

I'm not being fed anything. These are numbers and statistics I deal with daily from professionals in my field.

Making light of the situation is no better than spreading misinformation.

Where the numbers come from in the first place...what based off government agencies... because again, they never lie. They could have you literally running in circles on your data and statistics and laughing about it because we are that gullible. They can literally feed you any numbers they want and you'd never be the wiser...ever.

Ps.. before you go any further. The CDC and government agencies get their numbers from us, not the other way around.

And you don't think your health professionals can be bought and numbers be skewed. You don't think the CDC and government agencies don't have people in place as your health professionals? Hell...the numbers and statistics are skewed right now... everywhere. Open your eyes and mind...funny to have to tell a Scorpio that.
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I haven't been bought and my numbers aren't skewed. I would lose my job if I fudged my numbers.
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He also said the disease was a democratic hoax and convinced people not to take it seriously for weeks.

Edit: My bad, "Democrat hoax" because Republicans can't spell.

He didn’t say that. I actually watched that myself. He was referring to the media blasting his administration on its response, as the “next hoax” (previously referring to the impeachment trials he calls a hoax)

The message that got out and that was repeated on Fox News was that the extent of the crisis was a hoax. I heard him say over and over that the risk to Americans was very low. I heard him say that there were only 15 cases, and they were all getting better, and it was going to down to zero in the next couple weeks.

I guess Biden did make up the charge against Trump over the tests, so I'm sorry I repeated it. https://khn.org/news/biden-falsely-blames-trump-administration-for-rejecting-who-coronavirus-test-kits-that-were-never-offered/. Regardless, the Germans had a protocol that we didn't use, and the version we developed was flawed, so our people did fuck up...just not sure why.

I still can’t eat up the “it’s all Trump’s fault” narrative. Okay but I can definitely agree that absolutely EVERY country could have handled things better in their own right. There’s a lot of fucked-upness going on. I’m following a few countries specifically and have been reading their newspapers. It’s great to get other perspectives, lots of mistakes going on. I think we are all doing our best, and I think Trump is doing alright. I’ve been watching his press briefings. Who knows.. if what he says they are doing is all bullshit... has yet to be determined. We are going to have to wait and see how this thing pans out.

I think in general it's his words and how his base responds to them. As in.. downplaying the severity of the situation and continuing to go about their daily rituals like nothing is going on.

See, I don’t understand that either. Go about their days? He has had a press briefing every single day telling people exactly NOT to do that.

Read through Supes' and TheSag's post history for the pat few days to get a better understanding. That is his "base".

Yea but that doesn’t necessarily align with what Trump is saying right now. Watch some of his press briefings and tell me what you think. I think there are some good things going on. I for one am shocked about this check thing. I mean ffs even Tom Cotton proposed monthly checks for low income and middle class Americans. What is the world coming to, this must be the end
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You're correct. His tune has changed. Now we just wait for his base to change theirs as well.

Ps.. fuck Tom Cotton.
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This isn’t socialism.

I want to see all the “Orange man is bad” folk return theirs.

So you're going to accept a check from the government, that your didn't work for, and is funded by tax payer money?

Well I am a tax payer, and you know this isn’t socialism, right?

But I don’t know if I’m going to take it. I might donate part of it. I haven’t really spent much thought on it.

What’s happening on this thread, which represents the fringe left of the Democrat party, is that some desperate socialists are excited about getting a check in the mail. So they’re calling it “socialism” and trying to make a point about it. No. This is by Bernie loses.

Keep changing your definition of socialism to suit your agenda. lol

It seems that’s what you’re doing. “Oh, the government is sending me a check, this must be socialism.” Come on dude. The government did the same thing with the banks in 2008. Bernie opposed that. He’s a communist, and in a communist country something like this wouldn’t happen.
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.

You thought it was a hoax like three days ago. Seriously?

No, I said I didn't know what to believe but I definitely dont believe what I'm told like majority of people.

It was fine to play politics when your side was telling us all to shut up and not worry about it. It's our turn. We were fucking right.

When did I play politics and when did I get a side...this is new information to me...did CNN tell you?

How is making jokes about this serious situation any better?

How is it not? Again...as I said, I'll do my part because I already do but I don't necessarily believe everything being reported. But you can believe all you want on what's being fed to you. The government has never lied or steered us wrong before.

I'm not being fed anything. These are numbers and statistics I deal with daily from professionals in my field.

Making light of the situation is no better than spreading misinformation.

Where the numbers come from in the first place...what based off government agencies... because again, they never lie. They could have you literally running in circles on your data and statistics and laughing about it because we are that gullible. They can literally feed you any numbers they want and you'd never be the wiser...ever.

Ps.. before you go any further. The CDC and government agencies get their numbers from us, not the other way around.

And you don't think your health professionals can be bought and numbers be skewed. You don't think the CDC and government agencies don't have people in place as your health professionals? Hell...the numbers and statistics are skewed right now... everywhere. Open your eyes and mind...funny to have to tell a Scorpio that.

I haven't been bought and my numbers aren't skewed. I would lose my job if I fudged my numbers.
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For those who don’t know, this is a form of capitalism.

Companies being bailed out by the people in a time of crisis?

“The People?” Have you read economics outside of Karl Marx? The “people“ are the companies. If it weren’t for the 08 bailouts, the effect of the economy would have been catastrophic. “The People,” especially the biggest taxpayers, would have been devastated.

This whole thread is the result of some wormy socialist-wanna be crawling out of the wood work. Trump is doing a great job with coronovavirus management, and he’s using capitalism to do it. Get over it.
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The "biggest taxpayers" got tax cuts and put it all in hedge funds and offshore accounts.
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.

You thought it was a hoax like three days ago. Seriously?

No, I said I didn't know what to believe but I definitely dont believe what I'm told like majority of people.

It was fine to play politics when your side was telling us all to shut up and not worry about it. It's our turn. We were fucking right.

When did I play politics and when did I get a side...this is new information to me...did CNN tell you?

How is making jokes about this serious situation any better?

How is it not? Again...as I said, I'll do my part because I already do but I don't necessarily believe everything being reported. But you can believe all you want on what's being fed to you. The government has never lied or steered us wrong before.

I'm not being fed anything. These are numbers and statistics I deal with daily from professionals in my field.

Making light of the situation is no better than spreading misinformation.

Where the numbers come from in the first place...what based off government agencies... because again, they never lie. They could have you literally running in circles on your data and statistics and laughing about it because we are that gullible. They can literally feed you any numbers they want and you'd never be the wiser...ever.

Ps.. before you go any further. The CDC and government agencies get their numbers from us, not the other way around.

And you don't think your health professionals can be bought and numbers be skewed. You don't think the CDC and government agencies don't have people in place as your health professionals? Hell...the numbers and statistics are skewed right now... everywhere. Open your eyes and mind...funny to have to tell a Scorpio that.

I haven't been bought and my numbers aren't skewed. I would lose my job if I fudged my numbers.

Are you the top in your field?
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Top 96% in what my data is used for.

Would you like me to poke my head into the office next to me and ask my infection control specialist coworker where they have to send all of their data?
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@Dazed tries

How do you plan to spend your government check?

That’s a personal question. I wouldn’t get hung up on this whole “check.” It’s capitalism. Remember Bernie opposes the bank bailouts of 2008. He’s a Communist. Do you really think Cuba or Venezuela could write checks like this?

It's good social policy, like Medicare and Social Security. It's socialism. It's delicious!

It’s capitalism. It’s a relief measure that would only be possible in a capitalist economy. You just don’t know the difference between the government writing a check and socialist economy.

Your simpleness has never been so clear before.

You’re projecting. “Oh my God, Trump is sending me money! That literally never happened before in history! This must be socialism!” Give me a break. You’re making the world dumber by posting.

Thank you for pointing out to the crowd that the government providing needed resources to its people doesn't necessarily mean we've turned to socialism.
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For those who don’t know, this is a form of capitalism.

Companies being bailed out by the people in a time of crisis?

“The People?” Have you read economics outside of Karl Marx? The “people“ are the companies. If it weren’t for the 08 bailouts, the effect of the economy would have been catastrophic. “The People,” especially the biggest taxpayers, would have been devastated.

This whole thread is the result of some wormy socialist-wanna be crawling out of the wood work. Trump is doing a great job with coronovavirus management, and he’s using capitalism to do it. Get over it.

The "biggest taxpayers" got tax cuts and put it all in hedge funds and offshore accounts.

Don’t get lost now. You called Trumps relief program socialism, and you questioned my and supes sincerity?

Where is yours? Will you actually be spending this money, this capitalist money handed to you by “the bad orange man?” Or will you bite the bullet and fill that greed in your soul?
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I have nothing against accepting a government handout. Never said I did, unlike you two.
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Just a couple of things.

As to the falsehood about refusal of WHO test kits,:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/us-coronavirus-test/

"The accusation was even echoed on the presidential election debate stage, with 2020 Democratic candidate Joe Biden saying: “Look, the World Health Organization offered the testing kits that they have available and to give it to us now. We refused them. We did not want to buy them. We did not want to get them from them. We wanted to make sure we had our own.”

We sent emails to the CDC and WHO asking about WHO’s test and why it was not adopted in the U.S., but did not get a reply in time for publication. However, WHO told PolitiFact that the organization had never discussed providing testing kits to the United States, and The Washington Post reported that it’s typical, historically, for the U.S. to develop its own methods under such circumstances:"

And what subsequently happened from the CDC and a bad ingredient from the initial test kits, interesting story here:

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-coronavirus-testing-problems-timeline-2020-3?op=1

Now the infantile among us will continue to perpetuate that lie. Dont really care, and I think most people are ignoring it.

Trump did not claim the virus was a hoax. He was saying those in the media and irresponsible politicians were onto their next scam of politicizing this for political gain (pretty reprehensible, and hopefully those doing it get treated the way French collaborators were treated after WW2).

As far as him telling people to stay calm, would it have been better if he ran back and forth screaming "my god, we're all gonna die!"?

Grow the fuck up people.

As far as the check, mine goes to a local establishment that is going to have it rough since bars/restaurants are closed down.

Now, when Trump starts nationalizing industries in the name of fighting Covid-19, we can talk socialism.
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.

You thought it was a hoax like three days ago. Seriously?

No, I said I didn't know what to believe but I definitely dont believe what I'm told like majority of people.

It was fine to play politics when your side was telling us all to shut up and not worry about it. It's our turn. We were fucking right.

When did I play politics and when did I get a side...this is new information to me...did CNN tell you?

How is making jokes about this serious situation any better?

How is it not? Again...as I said, I'll do my part because I already do but I don't necessarily believe everything being reported. But you can believe all you want on what's being fed to you. The government has never lied or steered us wrong before.

I'm not being fed anything. These are numbers and statistics I deal with daily from professionals in my field.

Making light of the situation is no better than spreading misinformation.

Where the numbers come from in the first place...what based off government agencies... because again, they never lie. They could have you literally running in circles on your data and statistics and laughing about it because we are that gullible. They can literally feed you any numbers they want and you'd never be the wiser...ever.

Ps.. before you go any further. The CDC and government agencies get their numbers from us, not the other way around.

And you don't think your health professionals can be bought and numbers be skewed. You don't think the CDC and government agencies don't have people in place as your health professionals? Hell...the numbers and statistics are skewed right now... everywhere. Open your eyes and mind...funny to have to tell a Scorpio that.

I haven't been bought and my numbers aren't skewed. I would lose my job if I fudged my numbers.

Are you the top in your field?

Top 96% in what my data is used for.

Would you like me to poke my head into the office next to me and ask my infection control specialist coworker where they have to send all of their data?
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If we could just print out the majority of dxpnet. Then we would have enough toilet paper to feed the elderly.

Print it on what?
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Idk, everyone can use their imagination lol. Besides feeling the need to randomly interrupt other people's conversations with nothing really factual or progressive, I truly can't stop myself from being a dick at times.

The good news is in a few months the trees will grow their leaves back. So theres that to look forward to. Just don't wipe with weird looking ivy
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The fact that youre still fighting over politics is honestly disgraceful. That's not what we need right now but yet...here you all are ready to jump on anyone and everyone 🙄. Like have a big fucking seat and just STFU for once...the people dying don't give a shit about your damn political agendas. They should cut off the internet for anyone making this about politics right now.

You thought it was a hoax like three days ago. Seriously?

No, I said I didn't know what to believe but I definitely dont believe what I'm told like majority of people.

It was fine to play politics when your side was telling us all to shut up and not worry about it. It's our turn. We were fucking right.

When did I play politics and when did I get a side...this is new information to me...did CNN tell you?

How is making jokes about this serious situation any better?

How is it not? Again...as I said, I'll do my part because I already do but I don't necessarily believe everything being reported. But you can believe all you want on what's being fed to you. The government has never lied or steered us wrong before.

I'm not being fed anything. These are numbers and statistics I deal with daily from professionals in my field.

Making light of the situation is no better than spreading misinformation.

Where the numbers come from in the first place...what based off government agencies... because again, they never lie. They could have you literally running in circles on your data and statistics and laughing about it because we are that gullible. They can literally feed you any numbers they want and you'd never be the wiser...ever.

Ps.. before you go any further. The CDC and government agencies get their numbers from us, not the other way around.

And you don't think your health professionals can be bought and numbers be skewed. You don't think the CDC and government agencies don't have people in place as your health professionals? Hell...the numbers and statistics are skewed right now... everywhere. Open your eyes and mind...funny to have to tell a Scorpio that.

I haven't been bought and my numbers aren't skewed. I would lose my job if I fudged my numbers.

Are you the top in your field?

Top 96% in what my data is used for.

Would you like me to poke my head into the office next to me and ask my infection control specialist coworker where they have to send all of their data?

Yes
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CDC, NHSN, CMS, ACS, AHRQ, JCAHO

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