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As for OP, stop blaming the full moon, your period, aries mars, working too much, being stressed out.

Let's call a spade of spade.

Who is the real danger to society? People collecting benefits unfairly or people going behind the wheel while impaired putting lives at stake?

Muster some decency and count your blessings. You'd be in jail in my country by now.

What a nerve you have to go at people in this topic.
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@Faiyaz

I have to say something... I know this is just a lack of understanding cuz you have never been thru it. But, let me tell you.. having a mental disability is not "fun".

And, seeing how, obviously, you've never had to suffer with it... I really, truly, hope you never do!

Agoraphobia is a fear of open spaces, or more specifically, a fear of leaving YOUR HOUSE. It is a very disabling feeling! To never go to the store for your basic needs, to never go out to eat, to never enjoy trips, or even nature! The anxiety attacks alone feel like a heartattack!! To even check your mail feels like you're going to die!!

As, I've said, I hope you never have to experience that! Nor, anything like schizophrenia. To have your reality so warped... to have outbursts of uncontrollable actions. My uncle and mother-in-law suffer from this.

I am a recovering agoraphobe! And, I still have my days. It is very hard to rewire your brain, especially when you're so used to it.

Now, to answer your question. No, I've never been on disability. I was turned down!

How to get diability is a very long and lengthy process, as was said earlier in the tread.

It's really not that easy to get it...

Remember to STOP, THINK, and RESEARCH it....
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I agree with you, i hate it. I seen fully able bodies come out of a car and just milk it. I met a guy that pretended to the doctor that he was mentally retarded. Wtf—! Not mentally retarded like the stereotype that we know, but the not so known ones. Idk what they are but he says he acts dumb with the doc and talks offbeat. He "failed" an IQ test and has been labeled with down syndrome. The lowliness of the things people do for a handout....
You know that person's medical records?

My mother is fully able bodied and gets assistance because she is schizophrenic and bipolar. There are times she's in a complete danger to herself, let alone not be able to work. She isn't able to gauge reality.

There will always be people who game whatever system...to throw the whole system away because we know a person or two or three or ten who abuse it? You people are unreal.
I can agree that there are truths, but you can't disagree that there are equal falses. Theres too many "disabilities" where i live. Ive omly met a few people who actually have real disabilities. My brother for one is disabled. Post traumatic war with hpb and a blood clot sitting in his brain today, but for some odd reason, he will not take disability. I just see it as 50/50. Half of them are disabled and the other half are not.
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So basically if someone would see your brother on the street...they would have no idea he has disabilities. Meanwhile you can absolutely tell who has them or doesn't because you said you only met few people who do. On top of the fully bodied people getting out of cars who for sure have no disability because..you know all about their medical records.

We can't tell the percentages but even if it were 50-50. The 50% who do have disabilities should not receive aid because the other 50% do? It's pretty much the same principle with justice...let a guilty man walk free than condemn an innocent.

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I agree with you, i hate it. I seen fully able bodies come out of a car and just milk it. I met a guy that pretended to the doctor that he was mentally retarded. Wtf—! Not mentally retarded like the stereotype that we know, but the not so known ones. Idk what they are but he says he acts dumb with the doc and talks offbeat. He "failed" an IQ test and has been labeled with down syndrome. The lowliness of the things people do for a handout....
You know that person's medical records?

My mother is fully able bodied and gets assistance because she is schizophrenic and bipolar. There are times she's in a complete danger to herself, let alone not be able to work. She isn't able to gauge reality.

There will always be people who game whatever system...to throw the whole system away because we know a person or two or three or ten who abuse it? You people are unreal.
I can agree that there are truths, but you can't disagree that there are equal falses. Theres too many "disabilities" where i live. Ive omly met a few people who actually have real disabilities. My brother for one is disabled. Post traumatic war with hpb and a blood clot sitting in his brain today, but for some odd reason, he will not take disability. I just see it as 50/50. Half of them are disabled and the other half are not.
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So is this an assumption or a statement of fact? If it is a statement of fact, how did you manage to get hold of the medical records of the 50% who you claim are falsely declaring disabilities? I am interested to know.

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I agree with you, i hate it. I seen fully able bodies come out of a car and just milk it. I met a guy that pretended to the doctor that he was mentally retarded. Wtf—! Not mentally retarded like the stereotype that we know, but the not so known ones. Idk what they are but he says he acts dumb with the doc and talks offbeat. He "failed" an IQ test and has been labeled with down syndrome. The lowliness of the things people do for a handout....
You know that person's medical records?

My mother is fully able bodied and gets assistance because she is schizophrenic and bipolar. There are times she's in a complete danger to herself, let alone not be able to work. She isn't able to gauge reality.

There will always be people who game whatever system...to throw the whole system away because we know a person or two or three or ten who abuse it? You people are unreal.
I can agree that there are truths, but you can't disagree that there are equal falses. Theres too many "disabilities" where i live. Ive omly met a few people who actually have real disabilities. My brother for one is disabled. Post traumatic war with hpb and a blood clot sitting in his brain today, but for some odd reason, he will not take disability. I just see it as 50/50. Half of them are disabled and the other half are not.
If he did take disability allowance, would it come with stipulations? Would he have to accept counselling/physiotherapy or do they just wire the money?


It would actually be wired directly, the medical doctors have concluded he is eligible but he chooses not

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An honor thing then.

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I agree with you, i hate it. I seen fully able bodies come out of a car and just milk it. I met a guy that pretended to the doctor that he was mentally retarded. Wtf—! Not mentally retarded like the stereotype that we know, but the not so known ones. Idk what they are but he says he acts dumb with the doc and talks offbeat. He "failed" an IQ test and has been labeled with down syndrome. The lowliness of the things people do for a handout....
You know that person's medical records?

My mother is fully able bodied and gets assistance because she is schizophrenic and bipolar. There are times she's in a complete danger to herself, let alone not be able to work. She isn't able to gauge reality.

There will always be people who game whatever system...to throw the whole system away because we know a person or two or three or ten who abuse it? You people are unreal.
I can agree that there are truths, but you can't disagree that there are equal falses. Theres too many "disabilities" where i live. Ive omly met a few people who actually have real disabilities. My brother for one is disabled. Post traumatic war with hpb and a blood clot sitting in his brain today, but for some odd reason, he will not take disability. I just see it as 50/50. Half of them are disabled and the other half are not.
So basically if someone would see your brother on the street...they would have no idea he has disabilities. Meanwhile you can absolutely tell who has them or doesn't because you said you only met few people who do. On top of the fully bodied people getting out of cars who for sure have no disability because..you know all about their medical records.

We can't tell the percentages but even if it were 50-50. The 50% who do have disabilities should not receive aid because the other 50% do? It's pretty much the same principle with justice...let a guilty man walk free than condemn an innocent.


I am only referring to the ones that are not disabled. Ican see where you are pulling this, for the ones that are not visibly disabled but i will not rescind my statement, as much as i adore you. I honestly feel there are as much an equal amount of people that take full advantage of it vs the ones that are truly disabled.
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It wasn't the percentages I was debating..I have no way of knowing the actual ones.

Just the...not every disability is on the surface, you know? Many lurk beneath.

Pisceans always in a state of disgruntlement with the world.
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As for OP, stop blaming the full moon, your period, aries mars, working too much, being stressed out.

Let's call a spade of spade.

Who is the real danger to society? People collecting benefits unfairly or people going behind the wheel while impaired putting lives at stake?

Muster some decency and count your blessings. You'd be in jail in my country by now.

What a nerve you have to go at people in this topic.
She'd probably get 10-15 years max, in my country.
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@damnata this is outside astrology for me. Im actually quite happy with my path by the way

. But absolutely there are people truly disabled under the surface. Like i said, Im only referring to the ones that are not disabled. I feel that people do milk it if given the opportunity. An easy life is appeasing to most of the population.
No, you're not. Because you don't know who these people are - you are referring to the people you think are not disabled.
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No one here is disabled. Only mentally.
I explained mental disability on your other thread.
You dont owe her any explanation. Tell her to go fuck herself. She's rude.


Yeah, but the best way to fight ideas like these is with information. She lacks understanding on how mental health issues work and their impact on people. Maybe if she gains a better understanding, her ideas will change. At least that's what I'm hoping for @.@
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She's a nurse and active in the medical field. She knows.

Claiming innocence and lack of understanding as a justification to act this way? Don't think so.

Or it's the full moon and PmS! Fuxk that.
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Awwwwwwww so THATS what agoraphobia means? Well shit I didn't know that. is that a disability cuz I suffer from that BIG TIME.

Thanks misslissa for that explanation.

@fayiaz or whatever your name is.

Some of these people making some pretty good points here on the last page.

I don't think this is some kind of joke until you yourself go thru this situation.



But ima leave you to fight that out with these folks. I'm trying to bring positive vibes here. You on your own.

@misslissa can I get disability for that whatever it is you had mentioned?
Yes, that's what it means. Find some time to research it and be sure to talk about it with your doctor. And, you'll have to check your state's guildlines on what qualifies and what doesn't. Here in michigan it DOES qualify.
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Awwwwwwww so THATS what agoraphobia means? Well shit I didn't know that. is that a disability cuz I suffer from that BIG TIME.

Thanks misslissa for that explanation.

@fayiaz or whatever your name is.

Some of these people making some pretty good points here on the last page.

I don't think this is some kind of joke until you yourself go thru this situation.



But ima leave you to fight that out with these folks. I'm trying to bring positive vibes here. You on your own.

@misslissa can I get disability for that whatever it is you had mentioned?
Yes, that's what it means. Find some time to research it and be sure to talk about it with your doctor. And, you'll have to check your state's guildlines on what qualifies and what doesn't. Here in michigan it DOES qualify.


Yeah ok I'll look in to that definitely. But I'll have to write all that information down cuz I wouldn't know what to say. Especially will have to write that word agor....something, I can't pronounce it.

I really should be pissed off working for so many years knowing I been had problems like this for such a very long time.

I should have BEEN on the disabled list since birth.

But noooo people look at me and see a big broad muscular guy and figure ain't nothing wrong with me physically. Really burns me up when they don't know what's going on on the inside.



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Agora-phobia, the O is a long sound.

Well, if you think about it... not to offend... you have a responsibility in speaking up, too. When it comes to mental disorders no one can see it unless you say something, or behave VERY oddly.

No one saw mine, cuz I hid it. I didn't want friends, or even close family, to know there was something wrong with me. So, I internalized the anxiety for YEARS. Which is not a healthy thing, either... No one knew, cuz I didn't speak up.

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Awwwwwwww so THATS what agoraphobia means? Well shit I didn't know that. is that a disability cuz I suffer from that BIG TIME.

Thanks misslissa for that explanation.

@fayiaz or whatever your name is.

Some of these people making some pretty good points here on the last page.

I don't think this is some kind of joke until you yourself go thru this situation.



But ima leave you to fight that out with these folks. I'm trying to bring positive vibes here. You on your own.

@misslissa can I get disability for that whatever it is you had mentioned?
Yes, that's what it means. Find some time to research it and be sure to talk about it with your doctor. And, you'll have to check your state's guildlines on what qualifies and what doesn't. Here in michigan it DOES qualify.


Yeah ok I'll look in to that definitely. But I'll have to write all that information down cuz I wouldn't know what to say. Especially will have to write that word agor....something, I can't pronounce it.

I really should be pissed off working for so many years knowing I been had problems like this for such a very long time.

I should have BEEN on the disabled list since birth.

But noooo people look at me and see a big broad muscular guy and figure ain't nothing wrong with me physically. Really burns me up when they don't know what's going on on the inside.




Agora-phobia, the O is a long sound.

Well, if you think about it... not to offend... you have a responsibility in speaking up, too. When it comes to mental disorders no one can see it unless you say something, or behave VERY oddly.

No one saw mine, cuz I hid it. I didn't want friends, or even close family, to know there was something wrong with me. So, I internalized the anxiety for YEARS. Which is not a healthy thing, either... No one knew, cuz I didn't speak up.


So how do you go about doing that? Don't they gone want proof if you never reacted?

So in other words they automatically believe you thru word of mouth that you got that illness?

Cuz I've hidden mines for years too and like you I didn't want my family to know either.

Yeah I fear being around too much people. I'm a one on one person.

Been like that all my life.

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You have to start talking with a therapist, or psychiatrist, about it...

And, me too.

But, I have a silver-lining. I worked HARD to overcome it!! Now, I'm married, I go on trips, I go to the grocery store, I take walks, and I work in customer service. 🙂
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Psssst don't talk to yourself. I'm here.........

I'm classified as disabled by my school because I have three mental illnesses and one that's in remission. What do you mean by "how do I justify my disability and what it qualifies?"
Are you trolling me?



Mental illness?

Like what?

New.

OCD, GAD, and Agoraphobia.

PTSD is in remission.


Good to hear your PTSD is on the down hill run 😎 it's frikken tough to beat! 🤗
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PTSD is treatable if you find a good psychotherapist - forget the dime store therapists - go for someone who has the education and experience and they will help you quickly and efficiently - been there, done that, much better - but it never affected my ability to raise my child and myself on my own - I've taken care of myself my entire life - I had to work and I believe there should be people in our societal structure that work with the disabled to help them be productive no matter what type of disability they have. It's good for the soul to be able to be productive in society no matter what you do - even if it's just earning a bit along with what they receive. But we don't have that structure. So the disabled just stay in limbo, still living at home with family members - which most times isn't the best scenario for them, collecting a little to try to survive on, etc.

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PTSD is treatable if you find a good psychotherapist - forget the dime store therapists - go for someone who has the education and experience and they will help you quickly and efficiently - been there, done that, much better - but it never affected my ability to raise my child and myself on my own - I've taken care of myself my entire life - I had to work and I believe there should be people in our societal structure that work with the disabled to help them be productive no matter what type of disability they have. It's good for the soul to be able to be productive in society no matter what you do - even if it's just earning a bit along with what they receive. But we don't have that structure. So the disabled just stay in limbo, still living at home with family members - which most times isn't the best scenario for them, collecting a little to try to survive on, etc.





Well of course the Cap Moonn touts the benefits of working and productivity. 😛

Well said, I agree. Working is good for the soul. Otherwise you end up on here for too long.



HA - yes well I guess that is some Taurus, Cappie and Aries along with the Pisces dreaming LOL - I hope I didn't sound harsh because that is not where I was coming from. I just think waking up daily with more to think about than your pain could be helpful to your brain outlook ... and besides, if we had that structure in place, there would be more jobs for those who helped the disabled work all this out - no pun intended ...

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My experience with PTS😱 - abusive childhood -

Trauma is stored in the frontal cortex of the brain (in the wrong place because it was traumatic and at the time that is all there was so you had to be on top of things) - therefore it is still too frequently available and accessed and triggered by even the smallest of relation - look into EMDR therapy - Dr. Francis Shapiro ... this therapy took me back through that pain in order to store those thoughts as a memory in the correct part of the brain where it should be - a re-file so to speak, in the back cabinet not the front and stored as a memory just like any other memory - you know it happened in the past but things are different now so it is just a memory and no longer triggered by random daily activities - now it is not affecting me all the time. I consider my psychotherapist an angel and hope you all find your angel too. She was more help to me than anyone else in my life. I owe her the world.

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That's excellent that you've come that far with it. I hope that the paranoia will fade for you. I can relate to the problem of focusing on the past and what ifs. Great change that you made with how you look at it!

With the lucid dreaming, is that something that you used specific techniques to achieve? Some people seem to have lucid dreams often, w/o any techniques, others have to try techniques, from what I understand.

I went through a trauma a few years ago and I've made progress but I've been triggered lately so I'm doing what I can to address it so it doesn't take me down more than it has.





I learned how to lucid dream on my own via my desperation to escape nightmares. And Jimmy Neutron. So I would be lucid during a good deal of my nightmares.

I just didn't know how to wake myself up from them. Then I watched JN, he said that killing yourself in your sleep would wake you up. And that was the beginning. I had to keep learning new tricks because the better I got at it, the more problems i encountered. Usually just changing the dream completely when I was trying to wake up. False awakenings were a major issue for me.



And I'm sorry 😢. Something similar happened to me a months ago when we were studying PTSD. I think what you're doing is the best. Identification goes far. I would also advise you, from personal experience, not to completely avoid your triggers, if you can. It can create a cycle of anxiety that is self sustaining.
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That's really interesting! I learned how to wake myself up from bad dreams, and sometimes I've been able to change dreams. I also can sometimes continue dreams if I wake up and go back to sleep, if they're good dreams I'm enjoying. I don't know how I learned how to do any of this, it began maybe in late childhood. I would sometimes dream I was falling or being stabbed and I'd wake up before dying, or sometimes I'd die and then wake up.

False awakenings are the strangest - I've had that happen a few times.

Thanks for the advice about PTSD. I was told I have post traumatic stress effects, or something like that, but right after the trauma it was definitely more like PTSD. My triggers aren't things I can for sure avoid, so as unpleasant as it is, maybe that's for the best from what you're describing, once I handle my reaction to them better.





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My experience with PTS😱 - abusive childhood -

Trauma is stored in the frontal cortex of the brain (in the wrong place because it was traumatic and at the time that is all there was so you had to be on top of things) - therefore it is still too frequently available and accessed and triggered by even the smallest of relation - look into EMDR therapy - Dr. Francis Shapiro ... this therapy took me back through that pain in order to store those thoughts as a memory in the correct part of the brain where it should be - a re-file so to speak, in the back cabinet not the front and stored as a memory just like any other memory - you know it happened in the past but things are different now so it is just a memory and no longer triggered by random daily activities - now it is not affecting me all the time. I consider my psychotherapist an angel and hope you all find your angel too. She was more help to me than anyone else in my life. I owe her the world.


What would you recommend for years of emotional abuse from my mother? Because I'm pretty sure that's why my self worth is -0.
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what I mentioned above - that is what I had and it helped a lot - verbal and emotional abuse - so many people do not understand how traumatic that is to a child and how it affects the child growing up - there are lots of books too if you can read about it -

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That's excellent that you've come that far with it. I hope that the paranoia will fade for you. I can relate to the problem of focusing on the past and what ifs. Great change that you made with how you look at it!

With the lucid dreaming, is that something that you used specific techniques to achieve? Some people seem to have lucid dreams often, w/o any techniques, others have to try techniques, from what I understand.

I went through a trauma a few years ago and I've made progress but I've been triggered lately so I'm doing what I can to address it so it doesn't take me down more than it has.





I learned how to lucid dream on my own via my desperation to escape nightmares. And Jimmy Neutron. So I would be lucid during a good deal of my nightmares.

I just didn't know how to wake myself up from them. Then I watched JN, he said that killing yourself in your sleep would wake you up. And that was the beginning. I had to keep learning new tricks because the better I got at it, the more problems i encountered. Usually just changing the dream completely when I was trying to wake up. False awakenings were a major issue for me.



And I'm sorry 😢. Something similar happened to me a months ago when we were studying PTSD. I think what you're doing is the best. Identification goes far. I would also advise you, from personal experience, not to completely avoid your triggers, if you can. It can create a cycle of anxiety that is self sustaining.
That's really interesting! I learned how to wake myself up from bad dreams, and sometimes I've been able to change dreams. I also can sometimes continue dreams if I wake up and go back to sleep, if they're good dreams I'm enjoying. I don't know how I learned how to do any of this, it began maybe in late childhood. I would sometimes dream I was falling or being stabbed and I'd wake up before dying, or sometimes I'd die and then wake up.

False awakenings are the strangest - I've had that happen a few times.

Thanks for the advice about PTSD. I was told I have post traumatic stress effects, or something like that, but right after the trauma it was definitely more like PTSD. My triggers aren't things I can for sure avoid, so as unpleasant as it is, maybe that's for the best from what you're describing, once I handle my reaction to them better.

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I lucid dream too, but I don't kill myself to wake up. it's good that everyone has different methods to get out of the nightmare.
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Granted... I have a part time gig on the side. Its not paying much but its a good job for elderly and retired citizens and for those (like myself) are disabled.

I also still have my upholstery business too. That ain't going no where.


I thought that, correct me if I'm wrong, you can't receive disability if you have an 'under the table job" (which means keep it hush hush )

What side work do you do??
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No one here is disabled. Only mentally.
😄 so does being disabled necessarily means you have to have broken limbs, like a broken leg confined to a wheelchair? Or a broken arm?

Not necessarily. You can be mentally disabled and be considered disabled. Hell you can even have a split disc in your back and still be considered disabled.

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Lol

Imo yes, and even then.. you can still work, or be productive helping at a call center. Or be an advocate.



There are exceptions



But according to our government, (our as in mine, usa) "nearly one in five have a disability"



But how many people work despite them?
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No one here is disabled. Only mentally.


how in the world would you know if someone is disable or not? considering how you have repsonded to the few that spoke up in here.. if i was disabled physcially i sure the fuck would not speak up in here about it.

You need to check yourself.

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I was aggressive.

The point I wanted to root out was how come people claim disabilities when in my mind, I find it weakness of spirit.

Think about it. Some disabilities are not going to fall into this category.

However, many people claim disability and milk it. (Whatever their game)

I want to know what is TRULY a disability. When I hear psychosomatic issues I know that's mental. But alike all things, mental disabilities are only limiting if you let them limit you.

I address as if it were myself being spoken to, which is wrong. We are all different.

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Yes.

It feels so hateful, OP, the way you keep drilling some of the people here about their financial status in terms of their disabilities.

In truth, it is NONE of your damned business how or why they get it. I especially disliked the way you drilled Shadowcat even though she said she's not getting financial assistance but that her mother is. And you still asked her again why SHE felt she needed to get financial assistance (Correct me if I am wrong on this, @Shadowcat )

And please, for the love of god, STOP using PMS as a reason to vent and belittle others. Own up to your judgmental, cunty behaviour, and stop doing women everywhere a big disservice by using PMS as a reason for your behaving like an absolute bitch.
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I deserve this.

It wasn't my intention to be a cookiemonster.

I wanted to learn what kinds of disabilities were being compensated for. I owe someone a huge apology.

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Posted by Faiyaz
Posted by metalaquamonkey
Mental illness is a disability and has nothing to do with self esteem.

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This is a cat scan of the brain, showing serotonin and dopamine?

Do you mind sharing the link?

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You're joking right? You need a link to support the FACT that mental illness has effects on the brain?

Your capable of using Google so do it yourself.

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Posted by justagirl
Posted by Faiyaz
No one here is disabled. Only mentally.


how in the world would you know if someone is disable or not? considering how you have repsonded to the few that spoke up in here.. if i was disabled physcially i sure the fuck would not speak up in here about it.

You need to check yourself.




However, many people claim disability and milk it. (Whatever their game)


Do you mind sharing a link supporting that claim?
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Despite my own testimony, of course. I don't want this to be a hateful thread. Please know that from the start. I'm harboring a sharp tongue and im naive with my speech.



There are facts both ways. But you ask, so you will receive



Here are a couple I found by searching credited websites.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3395671/Benefits-cheat-claimed-disabled-not-work-caught-pulling-pints-customers-bar-running-three-pubs.html

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/16/fake-disability-claims-cost-taypayers-billions/

https://oig.ssa.gov/making-false-statements-claims



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Posted by metalaquamonkey
Posted by Faiyaz
Posted by metalaquamonkey
Mental illness is a disability and has nothing to do with self esteem.

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This is a cat scan of the brain, showing serotonin and dopamine?

Do you mind sharing the link?


You're joking right? You need a link to support the FACT that mental illness has effects on the brain?

Your capable of using Google so do it yourself.

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Ok. I'm no brain surgeon so I cannot read scans.

I had hoped you had a link to reference your claim.

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Posted by deelish
I became disabled in 2013 after working pretty much all my life. I have multiple sclerosis. I woke up one morning and my whole left side was numb and I couldn't walk without assistance. I am now able to walk with minimum assistance, but I still use a cane sometimes. My disease is incurable and is progressive. I would prefer to work but I can't, I prefer to have earned income instead of waiting on a check every month. I have had broken bones, scrape and bruises from falls and trips. I was put on disability 6 months after I applied after many interviews physical and mental tests from my doctor and disability doctor. Fortunately I am on military insurance which covers my medical care.
I'm just reading the responses now.

My aunt had MS. It's not easy and life cannot predict it.

Was it difficult to get the care you needed ?

I'm glad the VA took care of you. I think we take our care for granted in the US.



A patient told me today that in Africa, thisan walked for 12 DAYS just to let the doctor beyond borders listen to her heart murmur. 12 days, he walked with a 2 year old who could breathe and passed out. Like life...

We can't choose the cards we are dealt.

MS isn't an easy diagnosis. We're you given any prognosis ?
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Posted by Faiyaz
Posted by GetMisted
Posted by Faiyaz
Posted by justagirl
Posted by Faiyaz
No one here is disabled. Only mentally.


how in the world would you know if someone is disable or not? considering how you have repsonded to the few that spoke up in here.. if i was disabled physcially i sure the fuck would not speak up in here about it.

You need to check yourself.




However, many people claim disability and milk it. (Whatever their game)


Do you mind sharing a link supporting that claim?


Despite my own testimony, of course. I don't want this to be a hateful thread. Please know that from the start. I'm harboring a sharp tongue and im naive with my speech.



There are facts both ways. But you ask, so you will receive



Here are a couple I found by searching credited websites.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3395671/Benefits-cheat-claimed-disabled-not-work-caught-pulling-pints-customers-bar-running-three-pubs.html

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/16/fake-disability-claims-cost-taypayers-billions/

https://oig.ssa.gov/making-false-statements-claims


While the Social Security Administration link is legit.. "Dailymail" and "Washingtontimes" are not.

The SSA link offered no insight to the actual figures regarding disability fraud. Try again.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3395671/Benefits-cheat-claimed-disabled-not-work-caught-pulling-pints-customers-bar-running-three-pubs.html

Do you want

....



Dot org?

Dot gov?

What's crediable to you?
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is narcissism a disability?
It should be. The treatment would be pushing them off a cliff. 100% coverage from insurance companies because the treatment would be so efficient and cost effective.

Win-win!
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Where is the line considering disabilities? Diagnoses? So some don't deserve help and can pushed off a cliff (narcissist)while others are entitled to it?

I'm not being fresh. Just asking.
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Posted by OceanBoy88
I agree with you, i hate it. I seen fully able bodies come out of a car and just milk it. I met a guy that pretended to the doctor that he was mentally retarded. Wtf—! Not mentally retarded like the stereotype that we know, but the not so known ones. Idk what they are but he says he acts dumb with the doc and talks offbeat. He "failed" an IQ test and has been labeled with down syndrome. The lowliness of the things people do for a handout....
That scenario, yes.

I once was at a stop light and I guess my foot came off the clutch, so I hit the back of an old station wagon going maybe.. 3 mph. She said she had whiplash nd needed disability, took me to court too.

She lost. Because her testimony defeated physics with what happened. But my insurance jumped up 100 $ /month because of it. No scratch on her car to boot.
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Posted by OceanBoy88
I agree with you, i hate it. I seen fully able bodies come out of a car and just milk it. I met a guy that pretended to the doctor that he was mentally retarded. Wtf—! Not mentally retarded like the stereotype that we know, but the not so known ones. Idk what they are but he says he acts dumb with the doc and talks offbeat. He "failed" an IQ test and has been labeled with down syndrome. The lowliness of the things people do for a handout....
You know that person's medical records?

My mother is fully able bodied and gets assistance because she is schizophrenic and bipolar. There are times she's in a complete danger to herself, let alone not be able to work. She isn't able to gauge reality.

There will always be people who game whatever system...to throw the whole system away because we know a person or two or three or ten who abuse it? You people are unreal.
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Thw system is there for those who NEED IT.

Id think you'd be more outraged that other people claim illness when you were born from a woman who actually has one.



Mental illness is real.

Physical incapabilities are real.



Lack of morality is the REAL issue I want to address
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Posted by sunkisses26
what is up with this thread your pissed cause you THINK people are playing the system how about you thank your lucky stars that you aren't disabled mentally or physically ...don't pick on the disabled that's not cool 😢 for anybody putting that much time into actually playing the system they will get theirs....


No no no, I may have presented my question wrong.

I work where I see it, day in and day out.

So I started to question.. what really qualifies for a disability?

Hearing stories about other people, their families and such is life. It's true. Being empathic isn't simply telling everyone they are wrong if they claim disability.

It's seeing grey areas. Life isn't black.or.white.

I believe that some people need to be awoken to understand their potential.a and it'd not my place. Im hard when I think it's needed, soft where it's deserved.

I pity the bully and build up the bullied



I just think his whole thread went crazy, I'm still not half way through this thread. I pissed people off.

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Posted by Faiyaz


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3395671/Benefits-cheat-claimed-disabled-not-work-caught-pulling-pints-customers-bar-running-three-pubs.html

Do you want

....



Dot org?

Dot gov?

What's crediable to you?


Like really... do your own research here. Find the sources in bedded into the links you provide.

http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/09/08/busting-the-myths-about-disability-fraud/?_r=0

And the source link within it..

http://www.cbpp.org/research/chart-book-social-security-disability-insurance

The fact that 60% over disability cases alone.. are denied, even after appeals, should tell you how difficult it is to obtain.

And of those 40% that can actually get it.. they are three to six times more likely to die than people in their age group who are not on disability. If people on disability were faking it, they wouldn’t have such high death rates.

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THE REASON LEGITIMATE CLAIMS ARE DENIED IS BECAUSE OF FRAUD.

And it not ok.



I'm saying that our system doesn't exactly do their job well.

I want to know who is ACTUALLY eligible for it when I see soany patients who clearly are not.

Jeezus. I have 3 more.pages to read about how horrible i am. Excuse me
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Posted by Faiyaz
Posted by Damnata
Posted by OceanBoy88
I agree with you, i hate it. I seen fully able bodies come out of a car and just milk it. I met a guy that pretended to the doctor that he was mentally retarded. Wtf—! Not mentally retarded like the stereotype that we know, but the not so known ones. Idk what they are but he says he acts dumb with the doc and talks offbeat. He "failed" an IQ test and has been labeled with down syndrome. The lowliness of the things people do for a handout....
You know that person's medical records?

My mother is fully able bodied and gets assistance because she is schizophrenic and bipolar. There are times she's in a complete danger to herself, let alone not be able to work. She isn't able to gauge reality.

There will always be people who game whatever system...to throw the whole system away because we know a person or two or three or ten who abuse it? You people are unreal.


Thw system is there for those who NEED IT.

Id think you'd be more outraged that other people claim illness when you were born from a woman who actually has one.



Mental illness is real.

Physical incapabilities are real.



Lack of morality is the REAL issue I want to address


If you seriously want to address it, write letters to your congress men and women. Congress continually refuses to give the Social Security Administration the funds it needs to fight disability fraud. And because of it.. they reject many more cases than they should, inadvertently denying those with the assistance they desperately need.

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That's brilliant and I will. When they go unheard I make bigger noise.

Revolution anyone?
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Posted by OceanBoy88
Posted by Damnata
Posted by OceanBoy88
I agree with you, i hate it. I seen fully able bodies come out of a car and just milk it. I met a guy that pretended to the doctor that he was mentally retarded. Wtf—! Not mentally retarded like the stereotype that we know, but the not so known ones. Idk what they are but he says he acts dumb with the doc and talks offbeat. He "failed" an IQ test and has been labeled with down syndrome. The lowliness of the things people do for a handout....
You know that person's medical records?

My mother is fully able bodied and gets assistance because she is schizophrenic and bipolar. There are times she's in a complete danger to herself, let alone not be able to work. She isn't able to gauge reality.

There will always be people who game whatever system...to throw the whole system away because we know a person or two or three or ten who abuse it? You people are unreal.
I can agree that there are truths, but you can't disagree that there are equal falses. Theres too many "disabilities" where i live. Ive omly met a few people who actually have real disabilities. My brother for one is disabled. Post traumatic war with hpb and a blood clot sitting in his brain today, but for some odd reason, he will not take disability. I just see it as 50/50. Half of them are disabled and the other half are not.
So basically if someone would see your brother on the street...they would have no idea he has disabilities. Meanwhile you can absolutely tell who has them or doesn't because you said you only met few people who do. On top of the fully bodied people getting out of cars who for sure have no disability because..you know all about their medical records.

We can't tell the percentages but even if it were 50-50. The 50% who do have disabilities should not receive aid because the other 50% do? It's pretty much the same principle with justice...let a guilty man walk free than condemn an innocent.

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Damn @damnata

Philosophical much?

Imo, we are all crazy. We are all diseased. We all have hangups. My aunt is schizophrenic, took lithium for years. She took her newborn son and placed him in a ditch and covered him with baby powder. They found her, 3 days later in a different ditch in her gown, crying



Sometimes

I don't.knoe what to believe. What if there was some.unseen entity after her son and powder protected him... I dunno. But Ive seen her wild episodes.and I know mental illness.

I have a hard time with people who claim stress, anxiety and panic attacks. those, without hallucinations, are people who can't man up.and deal with their life.
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To the op .

Another small minded person that thinks of only the money people receive and not the bigger issue , have you ever considered how ' disabled ' people go through life and how hard life can be for them ?? No course not because you're only bitter about the help they receive .

I expect a disabled person whether it's mental or physical disabilities would dream of living a ' normal ' life like you do . Mental illness is nothing to be scoffed at ! People who suffer these conditions live their often very sheltered life in fear and I'm sure every person who you asked and not attacked would tell you no amount of money in the world can make that any easier to deal with .

People who recieve help don't just get it thrown at them , they have to have medical evidence to back up what they are claiming so for the most the people you are attacking are genuinely unwell people . You should be ashamed of yourself .

Disability isn't always something you're born with , it can happen to any one of us at any time and I hope you NEVER have to experience what some people do given how there's vile judgmental , greedy people like you in the world who unfairly attack people who through no fault of their are unwell .

Oh and one more thing we all suffer pms girl but we don't all go verbally attacking people because of it . Get a grip !
I was just thinking about posting this last nite. The bold sentence that is. But didn't quite knew how to put it. You explained it quite well. But don't you guys think y'all being a little too hard on the OP?

I know just from the posts of hers that she don't know what's it like to be disabled mentally or physically. I just leave stuff like this to the good man upstairs to let her see for herself. Not bragging here but some of you couldn't live the life I'm living dealing with both mental and physical problems.

I'm gonna be real here. When the OP said none of us are disabled, right then I knew something was a little off in that picture.

Like how can one say that when you don't know what I go thru. Not just being disabled, but the shit I go thru with people literately make me wanna shoot to kill randomly and that's no joke.

Now you tell me that's normal. That's considered a mental problem but yet the op sit here and say none of us are disabled?! Come the fuck on.

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But wtf is normal



There is no normalcy.

We are all weird