
Madhatter
@Hatter1111
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Posted by PilatesBod
The internet disrupted the gatekeepers of women’s sexuality. For a long time men controlled women’s sexuality by owning the companies, financing the production, controlling the distribution and decided what was marketable. Now social media allows women to bypass those men and monetize themselves directly. Some people will experience this as liberation for women. Some will feel resentment.
Brooke Shields was 10 years old when she was photographed for Playboy by Garry Gross. That was in 1975. That was 51 years ago.
Im not saying any of this is healthy or harmless but I guess I just don’t see it as a moral collapse point. I am worried about the impact, not because I think it will be worse than ever before , but because it’s different than ever before.


Posted by victoria-sakura
People are products of their environment. Sometimes the things they do are means to an end. The only real way to start change is by being an example to those around you.



Posted by PilatesBod
The internet disrupted the gatekeepers of women’s sexuality. For a long time men controlled women’s sexuality by owning the companies, financing the production, controlling the distribution and decided what was marketable. Now social media allows women to bypass those men and monetize themselves directly. Some people will experience this as liberation for women. Some will feel resentment.
Brooke Shields was 10 years old when she was photographed for Playboy by Garry Gross. That was in 1975. That was 51 years ago.
Im not saying any of this is healthy or harmless but I guess I just don’t see it as a moral collapse point. I am worried about the impact, not because I think it will be worse than ever before , but because it’s different than ever before.

Posted by jazzykid
Society figured out how to monetize insecurity.
I blame the culture and platforms that reward shallow validation and transactional relationships more than the people caught up in it. I also don’t really see it as a generations issue or a men vs. women issue as much as just a bigger shift in culture that affects everyone differently.

Posted by Generously910
I'm gonna speak from my own experience, for a long time I've been an advocate for equality and not treating men as a cash machine, where did that get me? Nowhere tbh
I don't know about the west but where I live it's a very patriarchal society, men here are at the centre of attention, equality between men and women is an illusion imo, most women do all the emotional labor, I was brought up to do so as well and it took me my entire life to realize that.
How different that is from the west?
More than 50% of billionaires in the world are men, so it'll always cater to them, they make the rules, so why shouldn't women profit off that? Oh wait they are called hoes and gold diggers when they do.
But for once these qualities are praised in social media and in society by men themselves, they follow Instagram models and they like their provocative posts, women notice that, so why should they take the high road when it leads nowhere?
I'm not defending all this, I'm just saying it's the result of living under capitalism and patriarchy.




Posted by Hatter1111Posted by Generously910
I'm gonna speak from my own experience, for a long time I've been an advocate for equality and not treating men as a cash machine, where did that get me? Nowhere tbh
I don't know about the west but where I live it's a very patriarchal society, men here are at the centre of attention, equality between men and women is an illusion imo, most women do all the emotional labor, I was brought up to do so as well and it took me my entire life to realize that.
How different that is from the west?
More than 50% of billionaires in the world are men, so it'll always cater to them, they make the rules, so why shouldn't women profit off that? Oh wait they are called hoes and gold diggers when they do.
But for once these qualities are praised in social media and in society by men themselves, they follow Instagram models and they like their provocative posts, women notice that, so why should they take the high road when it leads nowhere?
I'm not defending all this, I'm just saying it's the result of living under capitalism and patriarchy.
I was hoping youd respond. I do think your culture adds a twist to what im saying vs the west. And ive told you before I think cultures like yours put too much respect (good or bad) on genitals.
Im curious on what you mean by emotional labor? Do you mean what i was referring to about suppressing your emotions to please society, like I referenced the boomers doing, or their parents to them? To me thats cultural. The west went from very conservative to more liberal, culturally, pretty quick once the ball started rolling. I feel like some cultures just lag behind.click to expand

Posted by Generously910Posted by Hatter1111Posted by Generously910
I'm gonna speak from my own experience, for a long time I've been an advocate for equality and not treating men as a cash machine, where did that get me? Nowhere tbh
I don't know about the west but where I live it's a very patriarchal society, men here are at the centre of attention, equality between men and women is an illusion imo, most women do all the emotional labor, I was brought up to do so as well and it took me my entire life to realize that.
How different that is from the west?
More than 50% of billionaires in the world are men, so it'll always cater to them, they make the rules, so why shouldn't women profit off that? Oh wait they are called hoes and gold diggers when they do.
But for once these qualities are praised in social media and in society by men themselves, they follow Instagram models and they like their provocative posts, women notice that, so why should they take the high road when it leads nowhere?
I'm not defending all this, I'm just saying it's the result of living under capitalism and patriarchy.
I was hoping youd respond. I do think your culture adds a twist to what im saying vs the west. And ive told you before I think cultures like yours put too much respect (good or bad) on genitals.
Im curious on what you mean by emotional labor? Do you mean what i was referring to about suppressing your emotions to please society, like I referenced the boomers doing, or their parents to them? To me thats cultural. The west went from very conservative to more liberal, culturally, pretty quick once the ball started rolling. I feel like some cultures just lag behind.click to expand
Yeah it's exactly that, women basically shouldn't have a voice here, it's not Afghanistan but it's women who should do all the housework and the raising of the kids, and work outside,
Things are changing but into what exactly?
It's not as great in the West as well or any part of the world,
Maybe I'm just being pessimisticclick to expand

Posted by Hatter1111
I want to preface this by saying this isnt aimed at any one particular person, just a trend that looks glaringly obvious to me, from a perspective that literally dumped all social media aside from DXP (because as dumb as some of the users can be, there is some actual depth here, about real shit, and I appreciate that) for about 15 years and has recently got back on.
Now on with my thoughts...
We're all a product of our parents, both physically as in we exist because of them, but also our whole operational system is a product of how we were treated by them. It affects everyone, there is no escaping it, and we pass parts of this onto the nexte generation. And im not talking generational trauma in the traditional sense.. Theres a generational theme/pattern that really starts to show up every new generation - the boomers' parents shaped them, the boomers shaped generations X amd the millennials, gen X and millennial as are shaping this generation, so on and so forth... the world is constantly changing, amd not always for the better, and even sometimeswhen it seems its better it has unintendedconsequences that we pay for down the road. Dating apps and social media, along with a generation of kids whose parents told them to suck it up, or I'll give you something to cry about, or really only gave achievement-based attention to their kids oftentimes pitting one child against another to outdo the other for attention (narcissistictupe mothers whose validation cones from their kids). These folks are now grown and having children of their own.. all while dating apps and SM has made shallow validation an achievement within itself... DOPAMINE is really the biggest addiction we have today imo..
In the past month alone so many 30-to early 40 year old girls (because they're really just immature girls IMO) have sent friend requests (local chicks that I either know, or have ran into at some point) then asked me if I wanted to see them nude.. then asked if id subscribe.. like what? I found you boring before, why would I pay to be bored by you again, only naked? It seems predatory. But is this more of a state of where a lot of guys are? It does seem like a lot of guys aren't really seen by women, or they're passed over, or they have these lofty expectations of what they deserve looks-wise, so the girls just exploit that with a fantasy that these guys buy into? Like a dopamine tradeoff - the guy can pretend shes actually atrracted to him, and she has another fly in her web.. Im really not sure? But, what makes me wonder most is, these girls have children, most of them ive seen, and thankfully they do state upfront tgat they have kids, but these kids are learning from mom, here... clearly dad either isnt in the picture, or just isnt involved enough to know whats going on, or so it would seem..
One of the girls ive known for a while, she has a daughter around 10, she just gave birth to a baby.. dad isnt in the picture.. not that he isnt present in the baby or mom's life, but literally isnt in any pictures. There is no evidence this man exists, yet people who know them know they're in a relationship and have been for some time now.. this girl posts selfie basically daily, hustles her subscriber shit, but not a single Pic of dad/boyfriend... now I have seen 1 of these types of girls post their boyfriend and laughed because she had zero attention or validation from that1 particular post, and she deleted it.
Now im seeing the one girl's daughter, the 10 yo, wearing makeup, has her own SM pages, and shes posing just like mom... shes 10.. she's the next gen.. what happens when she has kids? How far do we fall? Just a bunch of women who couldnt keep a conversation going if their life depended on it, but as soon as they think youre loosing interest "wanna see my tits?".. peak bimbo culture IMO
I get its the throw away culture the world lives in. - dont fix, just trash and move onto the next, ive been there and guilty myself, unfortunately.. but what do you forsee ad the culmination of all this?
I still cant wrap my mind around the fact that society still bitches about millionaires through the lense of industrial magnates, yet many, many, many Only fans girls have surpassed their local business owners in wealth, who actually employ and help to build the communities they're established in. And its a bunch of simp men who are paying the way, and incentivizing the next generation, also..
I hate all the shallow shit. I fucking hate it with all the passion I have, i fucking hate it. And I just see it as a bottomless pit, with people digging and refusing to drop the shovel.

Posted by Hatter1111
Here's another thing, so all this stuff about women and sexual repression, I have a question...
Why do women get embarrassed when the squirt or soak the bed.. isnt that what we're aiming for? Congratulations! High five!! Why are you apologizing?


Posted by Hatter1111Posted by Generously910Posted by Hatter1111Posted by Generously910
I'm gonna speak from my own experience, for a long time I've been an advocate for equality and not treating men as a cash machine, where did that get me? Nowhere tbh
I don't know about the west but where I live it's a very patriarchal society, men here are at the centre of attention, equality between men and women is an illusion imo, most women do all the emotional labor, I was brought up to do so as well and it took me my entire life to realize that.
How different that is from the west?
More than 50% of billionaires in the world are men, so it'll always cater to them, they make the rules, so why shouldn't women profit off that? Oh wait they are called hoes and gold diggers when they do.
But for once these qualities are praised in social media and in society by men themselves, they follow Instagram models and they like their provocative posts, women notice that, so why should they take the high road when it leads nowhere?
I'm not defending all this, I'm just saying it's the result of living under capitalism and patriarchy.
I was hoping youd respond. I do think your culture adds a twist to what im saying vs the west. And ive told you before I think cultures like yours put too much respect (good or bad) on genitals.
Im curious on what you mean by emotional labor? Do you mean what i was referring to about suppressing your emotions to please society, like I referenced the boomers doing, or their parents to them? To me thats cultural. The west went from very conservative to more liberal, culturally, pretty quick once the ball started rolling. I feel like some cultures just lag behind.click to expand
Yeah it's exactly that, women basically shouldn't have a voice here, it's not Afghanistan but it's women who should do all the housework and the raising of the kids, and work outside,
Things are changing but into what exactly?
It's not as great in the West as well or any part of the world,
Maybe I'm just being pessimisticclick to expand
Have you ever considered moving? You don't seem to really fit your culture in that regard.
I know some women want to be housewives and do that whole shtick, but youre clearly not that. I dont even take you as wanting to be a hoe when you talk about sexual liberation.. I get more, well, honestly, FA vibes where you dont want to be tied to something and make the wrong decision you cant get out of.. and thats a perfectly legitimate view, I think. How are divorces or separations handled in your culture? Are they allowed?
What the original post was about was really me saying I feel like current culture is more or less reverting back to singling out sex as the only thing women have to offer the world. And thats a step back in my opinion. And kinda, sometimes, I feel like you guys put yourselves in a box when you dont need to. Lien I get that its ingrained, but in the west anyway, many guys aren't as backwards and really do fuck with women’s brains in a good good way.. I mean, sex is good, im still on board with all that, but like I said earlier thats a basic biological need.. thats lizard brain shit.. why are we establishing an entire relationship in just that.. I guess if sex is terrible maybe a hard pass, but if its good or decent let's elevate ourselves above the beasts, I guess. But I guess that goes with having actual respect for a whole other person?
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Now on with my thoughts...
We're all a product of our parents, both physically as in we exist because of them, but also our whole operational system is a product of how we were treated by them. It affects everyone, there is no escaping it, and we pass parts of this onto the nexte generation. And im not talking generational trauma in the traditional sense.. Theres a generational theme/pattern that really starts to show up every new generation - the boomers' parents shaped them, the boomers shaped generations X amd the millennials, gen X and millennial as are shaping this generation, so on and so forth... the world is constantly changing, amd not always for the better, and even sometimeswhen it seems its better it has unintendedconsequences that we pay for down the road. Dating apps and social media, along with a generation of kids whose parents told them to suck it up, or I'll give you something to cry about, or really only gave achievement-based attention to their kids oftentimes pitting one child against another to outdo the other for attention (narcissistictupe mothers whose validation cones from their kids). These folks are now grown and having children of their own.. all while dating apps and SM has made shallow validation an achievement within itself... DOPAMINE is really the biggest addiction we have today imo..
In the past month alone so many 30-to early 40 year old girls (because they're really just immature girls IMO) have sent friend requests (local chicks that I either know, or have ran into at some point) then asked me if I wanted to see them nude.. then asked if id subscribe.. like what? I found you boring before, why would I pay to be bored by you again, only naked? It seems predatory. But is this more of a state of where a lot of guys are? It does seem like a lot of guys aren't really seen by women, or they're passed over, or they have these lofty expectations of what they deserve looks-wise, so the girls just exploit that with a fantasy that these guys buy into? Like a dopamine tradeoff - the guy can pretend shes actually atrracted to him, and she has another fly in her web.. Im really not sure? But, what makes me wonder most is, these girls have children, most of them ive seen, and thankfully they do state upfront tgat they have kids, but these kids are learning from mom, here... clearly dad either isnt in the picture, or just isnt involved enough to know whats going on, or so it would seem..
One of the girls ive known for a while, she has a daughter around 10, she just gave birth to a baby.. dad isnt in the picture.. not that he isnt present in the baby or mom's life, but literally isnt in any pictures. There is no evidence this man exists, yet people who know them know they're in a relationship and have been for some time now.. this girl posts selfie basically daily, hustles her subscriber shit, but not a single Pic of dad/boyfriend... now I have seen 1 of these types of girls post their boyfriend and laughed because she had zero attention or validation from that1 particular post, and she deleted it.
Now im seeing the one girl's daughter, the 10 yo, wearing makeup, has her own SM pages, and shes posing just like mom... shes 10.. she's the next gen.. what happens when she has kids? How far do we fall? Just a bunch of women who couldnt keep a conversation going if their life depended on it, but as soon as they think youre loosing interest "wanna see my tits?".. peak bimbo culture IMO
I get its the throw away culture the world lives in. - dont fix, just trash and move onto the next, ive been there and guilty myself, unfortunately.. but what do you forsee ad the culmination of all this?
I still cant wrap my mind around the fact that society still bitches about millionaires through the lense of industrial magnates, yet many, many, many Only fans girls have surpassed their local business owners in wealth, who actually employ and help to build the communities they're established in. And its a bunch of simp men who are paying the way, and incentivizing the next generation, also..
I hate all the shallow shit. I fucking hate it with all the passion I have, i fucking hate it. And I just see it as a bottomless pit, with people digging and refusing to drop the shovel.