When your S.O.'s plot

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to murder you backfires.

This popped up in my newsfeed. It's terrifying yet kinda lol she nailed his psycho ass.

Noela Rukundo sat in a car outside her home in Melbourne, Australia, watching as the last few mourners filed out. They were leaving a funeral — her funeral.

Finally, she spotted the man she’d been waiting for. She stepped out of her car, and her husband put his hands on his head in horror.



Read the rest here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/02/05/wife-crashes-her-own-funeral-horrifying-her-husband-who-had-paid-have-her-killed/
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to murder you backfires.

This popped up in my newsfeed. It's terrifying yet kinda lol she nailed his psycho ass.

Noela Rukundo sat in a car outside her home in Melbourne, Australia, watching as the last few mourners filed out. They were leaving a funeral — her funeral.

Finally, she spotted the man she’d been waiting for. She stepped out of her car, and her husband put his hands on his head in horror.



Read the rest here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/02/05/wife-crashes-her-own-funeral-horrifying-her-husband-who-had-paid-have-her-killed/

i read that. i thought that was awesome of the supposed "hired killers" to plot against the husband. I mean they are still killers but they dont want to kill a woman.
some of the things i read i'm really shocked alot. like why would these men want to kill their wives? then i remembered all the murder mysteries, and wanting the high Insurance money after death thing...
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That's another point. Why are some seemingly good people spared and other seemingly good people not spared? Like all those shows on ID about how wonderful that person was but yet met their fate at the hands of a murderiys predator.
Because there is no higher force that's overlooking a freak occurance known as life and bc the universe is indifferent.
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I read about this a few days ago, stuff like this makes me think about Karma or having an angel in your must. If she was a bad person, would the unseen forces and enemies allow this to happen to her? Obviously she had Angels.
i believe it.

she did have angels.

because why did these type of things happen to other people who are innocent?
That's another point. Why are some seemingly good people spared and other seemingly good people not spared? Like all those shows on ID about how wonderful that person was but yet met their fate at the hands of a murderiys predator.
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the SEEMINGLY good people....
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That's another point. Why are some seemingly good people spared and other seemingly good people not spared? Like all those shows on ID about how wonderful that person was but yet met their fate at the hands of a murderiys predator.
Because there is no higher force that's overlooking a freak occurance known as life and bc the universe is indifferent.
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maybe. maybe not.

you dont know..
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This reminds me of the Michael Dippolito case. Even after she got caught, still denied it even with video/voice recording edvidence.
Lol yeah that was a trip. I kinda felt sorry for her, the police totally trolled her.

Them Libra tears though 😄


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Lol!

But did you hear the phone call between her and Michael after she got caught? Master manipulator! He almost gave in.
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That's another point. Why are some seemingly good people spared and other seemingly good people not spared? Like all those shows on ID about how wonderful that person was but yet met their fate at the hands of a murderiys predator.
Because there is no higher force that's overlooking a freak occurance known as life and bc the universe is indifferent.
maybe. maybe not.

you dont know..
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Yet you just deconstructed the flawed (spiritual) logic to yourself by asking why karma or god is so inconsistent. What more would it take?

And those who engage in dangerous behaviour run a higher risk of ending on the short stick of that. It's not karma, it's just logic.

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That's another point. Why are some seemingly good people spared and other seemingly good people not spared? Like all those shows on ID about how wonderful that person was but yet met their fate at the hands of a murderiys predator.
Because there is no higher force that's overlooking a freak occurance known as life and bc the universe is indifferent.
maybe. maybe not.

you dont know..
Yet you just deconstructed the flawed (spiritual) logic to yourself by asking why karma or god is so inconsistent. What more would it take?

And those who engage in dangerous behaviour run a higher risk of ending on the short stick of that. It's not karma, it's just logic.

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why are you attacking me for my beliefs??

i dont care what you believe in, so why is it so important to you?
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I read about this a few days ago, stuff like this makes me think about Karma or having an angel in your must. If she was a bad person, would the unseen forces and enemies allow this to happen to her? Obviously she had Angels.
i believe it.

she did have angels.

because why did these type of things happen to other people who are innocent?
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Everyone has angels
And Karma brings about unfortunate things to good people
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I read about this a few days ago, stuff like this makes me think about Karma or having an angel in your must. If she was a bad person, would the unseen forces and enemies allow this to happen to her? Obviously she had Angels.
i believe it.

she did have angels.

because why did these type of things happen to other people who are innocent?
Everyone has angels
And Karma brings about unfortunate things to good people
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yes that too.

i believe we discussed this in the metaphysical forum before.

that you carry the burden of your ancestor's sins...

the "you pay for your father's sins" saying..
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she did have angels.

because why did these type of things happen to other people who are innocent?
*mother of all facepalms*
oh yeah on what she said below.

should have been more clear.

it just SEEMS innocent because we dont know.
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And this is an extremely insensitive and offensive remark. So an "innocent" person gets mauled and faith will have you question their innocence.. bc why else would it happen to them?

Try telling it to that person's family.




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she did have angels.

because why did these type of things happen to other people who are innocent?
*mother of all facepalms*
oh yeah on what she said below.

should have been more clear.

it just SEEMS innocent because we dont know.
And this is an extremely insensitive and offensive remark. So an "innocent" person gets mauled and faith will have you question their innocence.. bc why else would it happen to them?

Try telling it to that person's family.




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why would it be insensitive.

i'm glad that NOTHING happened to her. which is my INITIAL response

further into the discussion, we started all going off on karma and seemingly innocent beings.

i dont understand why the universe does what it does. Why did shit happen to people when it shouldnt??

i am no god and neither are you.

trying to find answers is only perfectable understandable, because we CARE.

if we didnt care, we dont seek answers as to why people are Always targeted.
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That's another point. Why are some seemingly good people spared and other seemingly good people not spared? Like all those shows on ID about how wonderful that person was but yet met their fate at the hands of a murderiys predator.
Because there is no higher force that's overlooking a freak occurance known as life and bc the universe is indifferent.
I don't believe the Universe is different. God CHOSE to save her life. And to me God chooses not to save others, why? I don't know. But once a choice is involved then the powers that be in the Universe cares. That's how I see it.
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That would imply that there is an established code or moral in the universe that preceeds the existence of mankind, even preceeding the existence of the universe as we know it. That's reaching for it, to say the least.





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That's another point. Why are some seemingly good people spared and other seemingly good people not spared? Like all those shows on ID about how wonderful that person was but yet met their fate at the hands of a murderiys predator.
Because there is no higher force that's overlooking a freak occurance known as life and bc the universe is indifferent.
I don't believe the Universe is different. God CHOSE to save her life. And to me God chooses not to save others, why? I don't know. But once a choice is involved then the powers that be in the Universe cares. That's how I see it.
That would imply that there is an established code or moral in the universe that preceeds the existence of mankind, even preceeding the existence of the universe as we know it. That's reaching for it, to say the least.




If that's reaching for it, then what is FATE? which you just described.
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I didn't, fate implies something is predestined. I believe in chance and coincidence. However, you seem to INTERPRET it as fate and I can't argue against your beliefs becaue that's all they are. From where I stand, actions may or may not lead to a certain outcome. For you it's people fulfilling their fate. Meanwhile,you're asking yourselves why god lets bad things happen to good people and why he spares the rotten apples.. well, that if anything says the universe picks no favourites. It's indifferent.. organized chaos, at best.
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I don't believe in chaos. The universe gets everything else right including small particle units like atoms, all elements formed in a stable state, yet when it gets to mankind it FKs that up? Tragedy doesn't just affect the victim, it affects their families, like small children who are forever changed. That's not chaos to me. That's a sequence. A sequence of events, perfectly ordered, planned, and predestined, as horrific as it may be.
Who says that atoms are by definition "getting it right"? As oppose to what? It's just sustainability. Organized chaos. There's nothing intelligent about it. Your logic is, "oh existence can/does exists, must mean there's a plan".

And chain reactions, whether on a huge scale or a microscopic one, are just that. Chain reactions. Nothing about it screams fate to me. You live by the sword chances are you're gonna die by the sword. Not guaranteed though seen as there's no justice except for the one that we make for ourselves.. same as with principles and morals.





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I don't believe in chaos. The universe gets everything else right including small particle units like atoms, all elements formed in a stable state, yet when it gets to mankind it FKs that up? Tragedy doesn't just affect the victim, it affects their families, like small children who are forever changed. That's not chaos to me. That's a sequence. A sequence of events, perfectly ordered, planned, and predestined, as horrific as it may be.
Who says that atoms are by definition "getting it right"? As oppose to what? It's just sustainability. Organized chaos. There's nothing intelligent about it. Your logic is, "oh existence can/does exists, must mean there's a plan".

And chain reactions, whether on a huge scale or a microscopic one, are just that. Chain reactions. Nothing about it screams fate to me. You live by the sword chances are you're gonna die by the sword. Not guaranteed though seen as there's no justice except for the one that we make for ourselves.. same as with principles and morals.





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I think it's kind of funny that you quoted Jesus to make your point, though.



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As opposed to chaos. What, electrons are more stable In their outer 8th shell right? That's basic science. Even random particles bounce around until eventually bonded with another particle, to achieve STABILITY. The universe loves stable. It doesn't love chaos. So how can the things we have no control over be just a random chaos? Someone up there is in charge of these driven events.

You don't see it as a plan because you don't believe in a higher power.
Adapting is stability too, but I don't see say evolution as proof of intelligent design. Organized chaos = accidental patterns that form out of chaos and create (in this case) sustainability for a period of time. I for one am not spiritually overwhelmed yet.

So from a religious/spiritual POV, this higher power with its pointing stick,karma, morals, whathaveyou... created a chain event in which it would have to wait for 13,8 BILLION years for its moral teachings to be heard by the only beings capable of snapping it up via another freak occurance, the ability of critical thinking, on an insignificant blue planet called Earth in the vast universe?

But all of that's really irrelevant, the core of the disagreement is that you're arguing for an universer with a moral core (or karma based on good/evil) while I'm saying the universe is indifferent. Events are neither good or evil, those are definitions that only exist when applied a meaning by the human mind. And the human mind has not been for long. The universe in its indifferent state,has.
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I don't believe in chaos. The universe gets everything else right including small particle units like atoms, all elements formed in a stable state, yet when it gets to mankind it FKs that up? Tragedy doesn't just affect the victim, it affects their families, like small children who are forever changed. That's not chaos to me. That's a sequence. A sequence of events, perfectly ordered, planned, and predestined, as horrific as it may be.
Who says that atoms are by definition "getting it right"? As oppose to what? It's just sustainability. Organized chaos. There's nothing intelligent about it. Your logic is, "oh existence can/does exists, must mean there's a plan".

And chain reactions, whether on a huge scale or a microscopic one, are just that. Chain reactions. Nothing about it screams fate to me. You live by the sword chances are you're gonna die by the sword. Not guaranteed though seen as there's no justice except for the one that we make for ourselves.. same as with principles and morals.




I think it's kind of funny that you quoted Jesus to make your point, though.



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Oh gosh then I guess Jesus must have been right. Totally converted here.