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It depends on what a woman believes is valuable to her.

If you're talking about forging careers and goals, then it's a win. Tons of women are running businesses.

If we're discussing families and the impact it has on children then it's a loss. Not to mention the on-going issues with abortion.

What we do know is that statistically speaking, women are unhappier than they were 60 years ago. The reason for this eludes even the people who conducted the studies.

If I can suggest my opinion, I think social media influence and the money-driven market of dating has disappointed and confused tons of women. Men too..

Love has replaced sex with selling!
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The egalitarianism that seems embedded in Nordic countries' DNA can be traced back to the age of the Vikings when women in Norse societies had strong positions in the societal hierarchy.

Later during the transition to the modern age, these countries were among the first to give women formalized right to property, to tear down legislative barriers that stopped them from taking professional occupations and also by extending the right to vote to both genders.

They also have progressive childcare and parental leave policies in place that have allowed women to flourish in their careers without the same risk of being penalized in the workplace for having a child as they'd find in other countries maybe.

So the idea of Scandinavia as a socialist utopia is, in some senses, earned over a long time. But it may be difficult for other nations to replicate this model, given the demographic and governmental structures that are quite unique to our part of the world. The Nordic countries are relatively small and ethnically homogeneous, at least historically (my country was very restrictive regarding migration, and I didn’t encounter a person of colour until I finished school. That changed somewhat by now, but it’s still mostly Europeans who migrate), and they have high levels of taxation. There is universal health care, a great welfare program and a living wage. In my country it has been mandatory since 2013 that both parents take at least fourteen weeks of parental leave after birth of their child.

All this does not, however, preclude Scandinavian countries from falling victim to the same gendered notions of work, and what and who is valuable, that pervades societies around the world. Utilizing the link below you can read about this and also the „feminism of difference“ in more detail, and while you may find that some things work out well you’ll also find that our labour market still isn’t perfect and that despite an egalitarian approach men dominate in STEM professions.

https://www.decryptage-citoyen.org/post/gender-equality-in-scandinavia-and-a-focus-on-the-norwegian-society
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It depends on what a woman believes is valuable to her.


If you're talking about forging careers and goals, then it's a win. Tons of women are running businesses.


If we're discussing families and the impact it has on children then it's a loss. Not to mention the on-going issues with abortion.


What we do know is that statistically speaking, women are unhappier than they were 60 years ago. The reason for this eludes even the people who conducted the studies.


If I can suggest my opinion, I think social media influence and the money-driven market of dating has disappointed and confused tons of women. Men too..


Love has replaced sex with selling!


I disagree with the “families” part.

Women are still doing both career and home.

However, men are still in upper management and y’all keep voting them in office. These men don’t prioritize families because they can’t make babies. If men could give birth, look out. Pregnancy would be a vacation and after birth would be stellar. Childcare would be free. Shit, it would be free to give birth. Maternal leave would be enviable.

Men haven’t nearly evolved as women have. No offense, but your role models are not that great.

As women become more enlightened, we’re not going to accept getting pregnant with no safety net. Why have a family with a jerk who doesn’t appreciate you? Women don’t have to stick around for mediocrity.

Instead of getting rid of abortion make it attractive to get pregnant.

I feel like men are digging in their heels and resisting their own evolution, committing crimes, dropping out the workforce
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The more power women are given, the quicker humanity descends to it's own destruction. And it is the truth. Look at what's happening today!
Have men evolved along with women ?

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You wanna be a boss babe, goahead. Enjoy your single life
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I mean, women are. It’s men who aren’t enjoying it lol.


https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/
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So true
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The more power women are given, the quicker humanity descends to it's own destruction. And it is the truth. Look at what's happening today!

Have men evolved along with women ?

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You wanna be a boss babe, goahead. Enjoy your single life
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But have men evolved?

No, not in my opinion.

Sometimes when you have everything you fall into complacency and laziness overcomes you
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I remember reading how this guy was complaining that women had a separate conference and he said that men should have their own conference..

Silly rabbit, all the conferences are geared towards men. So much so that it doesn’t have to be implied.

Did you know that workplaces are STILL designed for men. The temperature is kept cold due to men wearing suits on the office.

The patriarchy runs so deep that men forget and take their advantages for granted.

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When I look at the workplace now, I see a lot more women and I wonder where all the men are?

College was pretty much even.

Im in my 40s and I wonder why the boardroom is full of women. They’re buying their own homes. Yadda yadda yadda and I wonder where are the men in these spectrums.

20s you’re young and dumb

30s you start making better decisions

40s you should be fairly stable

So what happened men? What were some of y’all doing for the past 15-20 years.

Jail is an acceptable answer

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It depends on what a woman believes is valuable to her.

If you're talking about forging careers and goals, then it's a win. Tons of women are running businesses.

If we're discussing families and the impact it has on children then it's a loss. Not to mention the on-going issues with abortion.

What we do know is that statistically speaking, women are unhappier than they were 60 years ago. The reason for this eludes even the people who conducted the studies.

If I can suggest my opinion, I think social media influence and the money-driven market of dating has disappointed and confused tons of women. Men too..

Love has replaced sex with selling!
I disagree with the “families” part.

Women are still doing both career and home.

However, men are still in upper management and y’all keep voting them in office. These men don’t prioritize families because they can’t make babies. If men could give birth, look out. Pregnancy would be a vacation and after birth would be stellar. Childcare would be free. Shit, it would be free to give birth. Maternal leave would be enviable.

Men haven’t nearly evolved as women have. No offense, but your role models are not that great.

As women become more enlightened, we’re not going to accept getting pregnant with no safety net. Why have a family with a jerk who doesn’t appreciate you? Women don’t have to stick around for mediocrity.

Instead of getting rid of abortion make it attractive to get pregnant.

I feel like men are digging in their heels and resisting their own evolution, committing crimes, dropping out the workforce
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The maternity leave has nth to do with men and everything to do with making more money, I live in a third world country where macho men are everywhere even in the government and yet women still get their three month paid maternity leave, and less working hours once they resume just to have more time to breastfeed, we have equal pay, equal rights, women don't have to pay alimony even if they make more money and no child support as well,

So maybe the enemy is not the man but rather the big companies that are slaving everyone away(men and women) in the US
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Wow, a whole 3 months of maternity leave.

Lemme pick my suitcase
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The more power women are given, the quicker humanity descends to it's own destruction. And it is the truth. Look at what's happening today!

Have men evolved along with women ?

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You wanna be a boss babe, goahead. Enjoy your single life
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I mean, women are. It’s men who aren’t enjoying it lol.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/
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So true
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If you look at even more research it shows that men don’t enjoy being sexless and single.

I stumbled upon Jordan Peterson and he said something that made me go 🤔.

He said that men find purpose in their relationships. In providing and protecting. In mowing the lawn. In going to work. In being the king of the castle. Cutting that thanksgiving turkey while standing at the head of the table Ala Clark Griswald.

However when men don’t have relationships, they turn into misguided, unproductive, violent, depressed members of society. He said that way before the pandemic and the accompanying rise in violent crime the US is seeing.

With women choosing themselves, with women making more and more money, with women so productive in the workplace….with women choosing singledom, look at the increase in violent crime, murder, domestic violence, carjackings. They’re not as positively productive as they used to be.

I think for men, the switch happened so fast, almost overnight. They were no longer looked at as the sole provider. It could have been an ego blow but as you can see from this thread…men aren’t sharing what happened to them emotionally. How they truly feel.

They just say “we’ll have fun being single.” Lol

It’s like they choose to insult instead of talking through what is going on
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Let me tell you something crazy. If you want a man to do his fair share in the home you have to make him a stay at home father. Let me clarify this to say he won’t do the majority of the housework. He will just split the load with you. Only when you make 100% of the income will men split household responsibilities 50/50. There is NO scenario in a marriage when a man will do the majority of the household chores. This is comparable to having a roommate who doesn’t pay any bills but they do clean up after themselves. They don’t do your laundry or anything but they do their own. —?


They can’t even meet their own expectations! How long have we heard that if a woman is a stay at home wife and her husband is the primary earner, then ALL of the household chores and childcare are her responsibility? It’s the least she can do after he worked all day, right? Men don’t believe that when the roles are reversed.


Baby, why would I get married when I am guaranteed to have to carry the majority of the domestic labor unless I make him a stay at home husband, and even then he’s not helping me out in any way, he’s only pulling his own weight?! Absurd. I am just as well off if not better off on my own.



https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/


Girl, he gonna mix your whites with your colors and then blame you for not sorting.

I’m Not even going to blame his mama because YouTube University exists.
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When I look at the workplace now, I see a lot more women and I wonder where all the men are?


College was pretty much even.


Im in my 40s and I wonder why the boardroom is full of women. They’re buying their own homes. Yadda yadda yadda and I wonder where are the men in these spectrums.


20s you’re young and dumb

30s you start making better decisions

40s you should be fairly stable


So what happened men? What were some of y’all doing for the past 15-20 years.


Jail is an acceptable answer





The only board that matters is the mdf board keeping your ass from freezing.
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The egalitarianism that seems embedded in Nordic countries' DNA can be traced back to the age of the Vikings when women in Norse societies had strong positions in the societal hierarchy.


Later during the transition to the modern age, these countries were among the first to give women formalized right to property, to tear down legislative barriers that stopped them from taking professional occupations and also by extending the right to vote to both genders.

They also have progressive childcare and parental leave policies in place that have allowed women to flourish in their careers without the same risk of being penalized in the workplace for having a child as they'd find in other countries maybe.


So the idea of Scandinavia as a socialist utopia is, in some senses, earned over a long time. But it may be difficult for other nations to replicate this model, given the demographic and governmental structures that are quite unique to our part of the world. The Nordic countries are relatively small and ethnically homogeneous, at least historically (my country was very restrictive regarding migration, and I didn’t encounter a person of colour until I finished school. That changed somewhat by now, but it’s still mostly Europeans who migrate), and they have high levels of taxation. There is universal health care, a great welfare program and a living wage. In my country it has been mandatory since 2013 that both parents take at least fourteen weeks of parental leave after birth of their child.

All this does not, however, preclude Scandinavian countries from falling victim to the same gendered notions of work, and what and who is valuable, that pervades societies around the world. Utilizing the link below you can read about this and also the „feminism of difference“ in more detail, and while you may find that some things work out well you’ll also find that our labour market still isn’t perfect and that despite an egalitarian approach men dominate in STEM professions.


https://www.decryptage-citoyen.org/post/gender-equality-in-scandinavia-and-a-focus-on-the-norwegian-society

Believe it or not in Soviet of my childhood women were paid to leave work after 7 months pregnancy and until child is 3 y/old.
Helped them none!
Then they were paying women for every child extra. Helped ZERO!
Look at MTFKERS now…STOP socialistic bullshiting!
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The Soviet Union had a completely different concept of society and politics. I would not want to live under such a system. But that's comparing apples and oranges.
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The more power women are given, the quicker humanity descends to it's own destruction. And it is the truth. Look at what's happening today!

Have men evolved along with women ?

click to expand

You wanna be a boss babe, goahead. Enjoy your single life
click to expand
I mean, women are. It’s men who aren’t enjoying it lol.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/
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So true

If you look at even more research it shows that men don’t enjoy being sexless and single.

I stumbled upon Jordan Peterson and he said something that made me go 🤔.

He said that men find purpose in their relationships. In providing and protecting. In mowing the lawn. In going to work. In being the king of the castle. Cutting that thanksgiving turkey while standing at the head of the table Ala Clark Griswald.

However when men don’t have relationships, they turn into misguided, unproductive, violent, depressed members of society. He said that way before the pandemic and the accompanying rise in violent crime the US is seeing.

With women choosing themselves, with women making more and more money, with women so productive in the workplace….with women choosing singledom, look at the increase in violent crime, murder, domestic violence, carjackings. They’re not as positively productive as they used to be.

I think for men, the switch happened so fast, almost overnight. They were no longer looked at as the sole provider. It could have been an ego blow but as you can see from this thread…men aren’t sharing what happened to them emotionally. How they truly feel.

They just say “we’ll have fun being single.” Lol

It’s like they choose to insult instead of talking through what is going on
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I think Jordan is onto something there, D.

Generally speaking I think men need to be in a rship moreso than women. I remember my mum saying she hoped Dad passed first because if he didn’t “God help us”. She went first and I did a lot of 🙏. The poor guy fell

apart 😞
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The more power women are given, the quicker humanity descends to it's own destruction. And it is the truth. Look at what's happening today!

Have men evolved along with women ?

click to expand

You wanna be a boss babe, goahead. Enjoy your single life
click to expand

I mean, women are. It’s men who aren’t enjoying it lol.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/
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So true
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If you look at even more research it shows that men don’t enjoy being sexless and single.


I stumbled upon Jordan Peterson and he said something that made me go 🤔.


He said that men find purpose in their relationships. In providing and protecting. In mowing the lawn. In going to work. In being the king of the castle. Cutting that thanksgiving turkey while standing at the head of the table Ala Clark Griswald.


However when men don’t have relationships, they turn into misguided, unproductive, violent, depressed members of society. He said that way before the pandemic and the accompanying rise in violent crime the US is seeing.


With women choosing themselves, with women making more and more money, with women so productive in the workplace….with women choosing singledom, look at the increase in violent crime, murder, domestic violence, carjackings. They’re not as positively productive as they used to be.


I think for men, the switch happened so fast, almost overnight. They were no longer looked at as the sole provider. It could have been an ego blow but as you can see from this thread…men aren’t sharing what happened to them emotionally. How they truly feel.


They just say “we’ll have fun being single.” Lol


It’s like they choose to insult instead of talking through what is going on
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I think so too what with that behavioral sink in that rat utopia experiment.
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The more power women are given, the quicker humanity descends to it's own destruction. And it is the truth. Look at what's happening today!

Have men evolved along with women ?

click to expand

You wanna be a boss babe, goahead. Enjoy your single life
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But have men evolved?

No, not in my opinion.

Sometimes when you have everything you fall into complacency and laziness overcomes you
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Women have only evolved into their own demise. Just take a look around. I have never had any problems with women at all as many fall for me easy. But that's besides the point. We have evolved, past your BS. It's a slow process but many men are waking up. And what sort of complacency are you talking about? Some people never reach the success that they want be it man or woman and that is reality. A woman can reach all the success she wants, guess what? No guy gives a sh**. So then, what difference is that making? A woman could be a billionaire, but if she's not attractive, she is worthless. Sorry to burst your bubble. Having all of the success and money in the world will not guarentee you love. Because the reality is, what will the interested individual see first? What sticks out the most.

So what's worse a guy that only wants a chick for her looks or a chick that only wants a guy for his money? FYI, either scenario doesn't involve love of the other person.
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The reality as I said once more, is that NO guy cares about a woman's success when it comes to affairs of love and attraction.
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Speak for yourself man you seen the price of houses these days? Fuck servicing a mortgage by yourself.
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The more power women are given, the quicker humanity descends to it's own destruction. And it is the truth. Look at what's happening today!

Have men evolved along with women ?

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You wanna be a boss babe, goahead. Enjoy your single life
click to expand

But have men evolved?

No, not in my opinion.

Sometimes when you have everything you fall into complacency and laziness overcomes you
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Women have only evolved into their own demise. Just take a look around. I have never had any problems with women at all as many fall for me easy. But that's besides the point. We have evolved, past your BS. It's a slow process but many men are waking up. And what sort of complacency are you talking about? Some people never reach the success that they want be it man or woman and that is reality. A woman can reach all the success she wants, guess what? No guy gives a sh**. So then, what difference is that making? A woman could be a billionaire, but if she's not attractive, she is worthless. Sorry to burst your bubble. Having all of the success and money in the world will not guarentee you love. Because the reality is, what will the interested individual see first? What sticks out the most.

Not attractive to you =/= Not attractive to everyone


Meaning that the reality is that the choice to go for career success and being "unattractive" doesn't really deter a woman's chance at love. An "attractive" woman isn't guaranteed love either.
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Women have a very small time window to settle.
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No they don’t…
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The more power women are given, the quicker humanity descends to it's own destruction. And it is the truth. Look at what's happening today!

Have men evolved along with women ?

click to expand

You wanna be a boss babe, goahead. Enjoy your single life
click to expand

But have men evolved?

No, not in my opinion.

Sometimes when you have everything you fall into complacency and laziness overcomes you
click to expand

Women have only evolved into their own demise. Just take a look around. I have never had any problems with women at all as many fall for me easy. But that's besides the point. We have evolved, past your BS. It's a slow process but many men are waking up. And what sort of complacency are you talking about? Some people never reach the success that they want be it man or woman and that is reality. A woman can reach all the success she wants, guess what? No guy gives a sh**. So then, what difference is that making? A woman could be a billionaire, but if she's not attractive, she is worthless. Sorry to burst your bubble. Having all of the success and money in the world will not guarentee you love. Because the reality is, what will the interested individual see first? What sticks out the most.
Not attractive to you =/= Not attractive to everyone

Meaning that the reality is that the choice to go for career success and being "unattractive" doesn't really deter a woman's chance at love. An "attractive" woman isn't guaranteed love either.
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Women have a very small time window to settle.
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To have kids...not in terms of finding love.

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True

My Dad met a lovely lady years after mum passed…they were together a few years and they were over 70. It was lovely to see them so happy ❤️

It’s never too late to find love….
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I think the term equal rights is a double end sword no matter where it's used. Like equal rights to have what specifically? Also equal rights to other women, men, or something else entirely? Probably equal rights to white men is what you mean. If that's that case I 100% beg all of you to completely take over. I'm willing to sell out. It's honestly not worth it. Trying to keep up with everything on my plate is making my hair fall out. Only the parts that aren't turning gray that is.

I think women should have all the rights. Honestly take them. I absolutely hate it. Statistics say I'm privileged for being a white man, but I'm the enemy to 99% of other people. Including other white men. I'm either competition, or simply privileged. To anyone else I'm just a wage slave, and nothing more. So take it. The "world" is yours.
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Honestly I think the rising numbers of broken families is what led us to this war,

Not many kids are raised in a healthy father mother figure household.

I know single moms are doing their best but I think it's not enough without a father.

And then there's feminism pushing women to believe they don't need a man, and then these red pill podcasters pushing men to believe women should be servants for them, all this

And then there's social media and the hookup culture facilitating cheating

It's really difficult now a days to keep a relationship alive.

I think there's some interesting points, but a lot of nuances.

Agree the manosphere and the more extremist elements of third wave feminism are toxic and create a phony narrative of girls vs boys mainly to younger people.


I think hookup culture existed way before Tinder. Ask any man whose been out on the pull in a bar or club.


I think some single parents are great at taking care of their children, while some plop their brats down in front of cocomelon and go out, but not to work. I've known single parents who are great parents.


Relationships have always been difficult I think less people stay together for convenience that's all that's changed.
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Much of that actually has to do with culture I think. Dating expectations, gender, feminism, rights, raising kids - all that has to do with where you are living. From my perspective there are no gender wars, toxic feminism or incel stuff. Much of that seems centric to the English speaking world, or just the USA.

Here it’s common to live together without being married. It actually is the most common way. We have a lot of single parents too and no one perceives that as a bad thing. It doesn’t come with any stigma.

Regarding hook up culture, how do people meet each other? You are horny, so you go to a club and hook up with someone. Later, if all is good, you maybe go and get a coffee together. You may meet again for more sex. If all is good more casual dating follows, eventually leading into a relationship somewhere down the line. It’s “I want sex, and I’m going to go for it”. Sex is a natural thing here – talked about, encouraged, and considered a healthy and fun thing to do – rather than being kept under lock and key until a man goes through a series of courting rituals to win the woman over. We cannot grasp the idea of waiting to have sex. That’s how it works here. But maybe in other parts of the world, the man is expected to chase and seduce the woman, while the woman holds back on sex because that’s the way to get commitment.

Gender roles are considered antiquated here. Ladies, this means you will open your own door and pay your own bills. The man is not expected to lead or plan the dates; it’s an equal job. And it is not unusual that a Scandinavian woman might be the one to approach a guy in a bar.

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The more power women are given, the quicker humanity descends to it's own destruction. And it is the truth. Look at what's happening today!

Have men evolved along with women ?

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You wanna be a boss babe, goahead. Enjoy your single life
click to expand

But have men evolved?

No, not in my opinion.

Sometimes when you have everything you fall into complacency and laziness overcomes you
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Women have only evolved into their own demise. Just take a look around. I have never had any problems with women at all as many fall for me easy. But that's besides the point. We have evolved, past your BS. It's a slow process but many men are waking up. And what sort of complacency are you talking about? Some people never reach the success that they want be it man or woman and that is reality. A woman can reach all the success she wants, guess what? No guy gives a sh**. So then, what difference is that making? A woman could be a billionaire, but if she's not attractive, she is worthless. Sorry to burst your bubble. Having all of the success and money in the world will not guarentee you love. Because the reality is, what will the interested individual see first? What sticks out the most.
Not attractive to you =/= Not attractive to everyone

Meaning that the reality is that the choice to go for career success and being "unattractive" doesn't really deter a woman's chance at love. An "attractive" woman isn't guaranteed love either.
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Women have a very small time window to settle.

To have kids...not in terms of finding love.

What women consider love in their younger years and what they consider love when they hit the wall are 2 completely different things.
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That remains to be only your belief (and probably Rein's belief), that a woman who passed that window has hit the wall. It may be a bit presumptuous of you to make conclusive statements like that about anyone without really getting to know them and their circumstances first.
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Intelligent, rational and open minded as always 😘
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Honestly I think the rising numbers of broken families is what led us to this war,

Not many kids are raised in a healthy father mother figure household.

I know single moms are doing their best but I think it's not enough without a father.

And then there's feminism pushing women to believe they don't need a man, and then these red pill podcasters pushing men to believe women should be servants for them, all this

And then there's social media and the hookup culture facilitating cheating

It's really difficult now a days to keep a relationship alive.

I think there's some interesting points, but a lot of nuances.

Agree the manosphere and the more extremist elements of third wave feminism are toxic and create a phony narrative of girls vs boys mainly to younger people.

I think hookup culture existed way before Tinder. Ask any man whose been out on the pull in a bar or club.

I think some single parents are great at taking care of their children, while some plop their brats down in front of cocomelon and go out, but not to work. I've known single parents who are great parents.

Relationships have always been difficult I think less people stay together for convenience that's all that's changed.
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But seriously what do women want? Equality? I mean look at those women crying on TikTok cause a man didn't call back, or paid for a first date.

And also look at all these men complaining about women body counts, if you're gonna sleep with a lot of women why do you think you deserve to end up with a virgin?

Biologically speaking men are more in an advantage to find better and we'll paid jobs than women, to have kids late in life and to sleep around without any risk than women, women can't seem to accept that and maybe why they think men are still oppressing them?
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“if you're gonna sleep with a lot of women why do you think you deserve to end up with a virgin”

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Honestly I think the rising numbers of broken families is what led us to this war,

Not many kids are raised in a healthy father mother figure household.

I know single moms are doing their best but I think it's not enough without a father.

And then there's feminism pushing women to believe they don't need a man, and then these red pill podcasters pushing men to believe women should be servants for them, all this

And then there's social media and the hookup culture facilitating cheating

It's really difficult now a days to keep a relationship alive.

I think there's some interesting points, but a lot of nuances.

Agree the manosphere and the more extremist elements of third wave feminism are toxic and create a phony narrative of girls vs boys mainly to younger people.

I think hookup culture existed way before Tinder. Ask any man whose been out on the pull in a bar or club.

I think some single parents are great at taking care of their children, while some plop their brats down in front of cocomelon and go out, but not to work. I've known single parents who are great parents.

Relationships have always been difficult I think less people stay together for convenience that's all that's changed.
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Much of that actually has to do with culture I think. Dating expectations, gender, feminism, rights, raising kids - all that has to do with where you are living. From my perspective there are no gender wars, toxic feminism or incel stuff. Much of that seems centric to the English speaking world, or just the USA.


Here it’s common to live together without being married. It actually is the most common way. We have a lot of single parents too and no one perceives that as a bad thing. It doesn’t come with any stigma.


Regarding hook up culture, how do people meet each other? You are horny, so you go to a club and hook up with someone. Later, if all is good, you maybe go and get a coffee together. You may meet again for more sex. If all is good more casual dating follows, eventually leading into a relationship somewhere down the line. It’s “I want sex, and I’m going to go for it”. Sex is a natural thing here – talked about, encouraged, and considered a healthy and fun thing to do – rather than being kept under lock and key until a man goes through a series of courting rituals to win the woman over. We cannot grasp the idea of waiting to have sex. That’s how it works here. But maybe in other parts of the world, the man is expected to chase and seduce the woman, while the woman holds back on sex because that’s the way to get commitment.


Gender roles are considered antiquated here. Ladies, this means you will open your own door and pay your own bills. The man is not expected to lead or plan the dates; it’s an equal job. And it is not unusual that a Scandinavian woman might be the one to approach a guy in a bar.


Because Scandinavian women LOOKS like a guys so they HAVE to so guy knows it’s a woman…
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I think they are hot and put many others to shame because Vikings didn’t abduct the ugly ones 😉

But in the end, the idea of what you consider beautiful simply differs from place to place.

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It depends on what a woman believes is valuable to her.

If you're talking about forging careers and goals, then it's a win. Tons of women are running businesses.

If we're discussing families and the impact it has on children then it's a loss. Not to mention the on-going issues with abortion.

What we do know is that statistically speaking, women are unhappier than they were 60 years ago. The reason for this eludes even the people who conducted the studies.

If I can suggest my opinion, I think social media influence and the money-driven market of dating has disappointed and confused tons of women. Men too..

Love has replaced sex with selling!

I disagree with the “families” part.


Women are still doing both career and home.


However, men are still in upper management and y’all keep voting them in office. These men don’t prioritize families because they can’t make babies. If men could give birth, look out. Pregnancy would be a vacation and after birth would be stellar. Childcare would be free. Shit, it would be free to give birth. Maternal leave would be enviable.


Men haven’t nearly evolved as women have. No offense, but your role models are not that great.


As women become more enlightened, we’re not going to accept getting pregnant with no safety net. Why have a family with a jerk who doesn’t appreciate you? Women don’t have to stick around for mediocrity.


Instead of getting rid of abortion make it attractive to get pregnant.


I feel like men are digging in their heels and resisting their own evolution, committing crimes, dropping out the workforce
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The homes are less happy though and children are pretty much raised in daycare, if not by another relative. This doesn't mean women need to stay at home, but it means two parents having "careers" puts stress on the family. Even if children aren't involved, there are household duties and things get complicated when deciding who should split or assist with what ever. Both people are exhausted from working 50+ hours a week.

Men don't prioritize families because historically someone has to provide. The root word of husband comes from husbandry. Which means to tend to or to manage livestock, crops and anything under his care. This includes courtship of the man's wife or partner, now re-named.. how many shows or movies have you seen where the women criticizing the man to get a job or to provide. Women don't want to take care of a man.

Things obviously would be different if men gave birth. But this isn't an exclusive issue. Anyone in charge bends the rules to their liking.

Men cannot evolve unfortunately. Women have evolved, but still place the burden of dating on men as a whole. Not all, but many women have an issue with the idea of making more than their husband. Many still do not want to split checks at dinner or even pay for it as a whole. Toxic masculinity is a big thing going on now, but remember when the little boy cries, the mother tells him to stop, and boys don't do that. Men reinforce this mindset as they get older and refuse to open up.

Men cannot evolve.

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It depends on what a woman believes is valuable to her.


If you're talking about forging careers and goals, then it's a win. Tons of women are running businesses.


If we're discussing families and the impact it has on children then it's a loss. Not to mention the on-going issues with abortion.


What we do know is that statistically speaking, women are unhappier than they were 60 years ago. The reason for this eludes even the people who conducted the studies.


If I can suggest my opinion, I think social media influence and the money-driven market of dating has disappointed and confused tons of women. Men too..


Love has replaced sex with selling!

What we do know is that statistically speaking, women are unhappier than they were 60 years ago.

Where did you find this info? Just out of genuine curiosity

I do agree that I hate the current gender wars and it feels like no one really believes in love anymore. it seems most people are more focused on power struggles and who can get over on who first. etc. it’s difficult to trust anyone, when everyone is defensive.

But I don’t know that I agree that women were indeed happier 60 years ago, or if they were just STUCK and more financially dependent back then, which kept them in those marriages. (Not necessarily happy)

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I can do some digging and find the studies again. I believe it ties to women working long hours in their careers and then they come home to household duties. Then we need to factor in there is a higher amount of women who simply lack interest in household duties or need the man's help to cook etc. Also, women on average still spend more time with children than men.

Happiness fluctuates. The goal of a relationship is not to be in a constant state of happiness at all times. You see people are chasing the honey-moon phase or rainbows now and it fizzles out. Long-term relationships have become a thing of the past.

I think society confuses unhappiness with mistreatment. Nobody, man or woman should be in a distasteful, abusive or miserable relationship. But this isn't the same thing as being on cloud 9 all the time. The moment things get stale, someone is ready to bounce.

I mentioned earlier in the thread, love is for sale. The idea of a relationship has changed, but the vows you take a marriage have not. For better or worse, until death, care in sickness etc.

All now subject to how someone feels in that moment. Now what did people do differently 60 years ago other then give women equal resources to men. Certainly, all of our grandmothers weren't miserable.
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It depends on what a woman believes is valuable to her.

If you're talking about forging careers and goals, then it's a win. Tons of women are running businesses.

If we're discussing families and the impact it has on children then it's a loss. Not to mention the on-going issues with abortion.

What we do know is that statistically speaking, women are unhappier than they were 60 years ago. The reason for this eludes even the people who conducted the studies.

If I can suggest my opinion, I think social media influence and the money-driven market of dating has disappointed and confused tons of women. Men too..

Love has replaced sex with selling!

What we do know is that statistically speaking, women are unhappier than they were 60 years ago.


Where did you find this info? Just out of genuine curiosity


I do agree that I hate the current gender wars and it feels like no one really believes in love anymore. it seems most people are more focused on power struggles and who can get over on who first. etc. it’s difficult to trust anyone, when everyone is defensive.


But I don’t know that I agree that women were indeed happier 60 years ago, or if they were just STUCK and more financially dependent back then, which kept them in those marriages. (Not necessarily happy)

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I can do some digging and find the studies again. I believe it ties to women working long hours in their careers and then they come home to household duties. Then we need to factor in there is a higher amount of women who simply lack interest in household duties or need the man's help to cook etc. Also, women on average still spend more time with children than men.


Happiness fluctuates. The goal of a relationship is not to be in a constant state of happiness at all times. You see people are chasing the honey-moon phase or rainbows now and it fizzles out. Long-term relationships have become a thing of the past.


I think society confuses unhappiness with mistreatment. Nobody, man or woman should be in a distasteful, abusive or miserable relationship. But this isn't the same thing as being on cloud 9 all the time. The moment things get stale, someone is ready to bounce.


I mentioned earlier in the thread, love is for sale. The idea of a relationship has changed, but the vows you take a marriage have not. For better or worse, until death, care in sickness etc.


All now subject to how someone feels in that moment. Now what did people do differently 60 years ago other then give women equal resources to men. Certainly, all of our grandmothers weren't miserable.
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But some of them were…
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Posted by LuckyLibra7
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Posted by LuckyLibra7
It depends on what a woman believes is valuable to her.

If you're talking about forging careers and goals, then it's a win. Tons of women are running businesses.

If we're discussing families and the impact it has on children then it's a loss. Not to mention the on-going issues with abortion.

What we do know is that statistically speaking, women are unhappier than they were 60 years ago. The reason for this eludes even the people who conducted the studies.

If I can suggest my opinion, I think social media influence and the money-driven market of dating has disappointed and confused tons of women. Men too..

Love has replaced sex with selling!

What we do know is that statistically speaking, women are unhappier than they were 60 years ago.


Where did you find this info? Just out of genuine curiosity


I do agree that I hate the current gender wars and it feels like no one really believes in love anymore. it seems most people are more focused on power struggles and who can get over on who first. etc. it’s difficult to trust anyone, when everyone is defensive.


But I don’t know that I agree that women were indeed happier 60 years ago, or if they were just STUCK and more financially dependent back then, which kept them in those marriages. (Not necessarily happy)

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I can do some digging and find the studies again. I believe it ties to women working long hours in their careers and then they come home to household duties. Then we need to factor in there is a higher amount of women who simply lack interest in household duties or need the man's help to cook etc. Also, women on average still spend more time with children than men.


Happiness fluctuates. The goal of a relationship is not to be in a constant state of happiness at all times. You see people are chasing the honey-moon phase or rainbows now and it fizzles out. Long-term relationships have become a thing of the past.


I think society confuses unhappiness with mistreatment. Nobody, man or woman should be in a distasteful, abusive or miserable relationship. But this isn't the same thing as being on cloud 9 all the time. The moment things get stale, someone is ready to bounce.


I mentioned earlier in the thread, love is for sale. The idea of a relationship has changed, but the vows you take a marriage have not. For better or worse, until death, care in sickness etc.


All now subject to how someone feels in that moment. Now what did people do differently 60 years ago other then give women equal resources to men. Certainly, all of our grandmothers weren't miserable.

But some of them were…
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Yes… But men created divorce at the end of the day. Contrary to the popular belief of 8/10 women now initiating divorce.

Regardless of status or income, people have always been unhappy. The difference now is that it's trending to bounce from relationships. Whereas decades ago, it was trending to stay with a spouse.

The average length of a relationship is 2 years in America.

Everybody isn't cheated on or mistreated. You are told to be selfish and you are deserving without putting in effort.
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Women are coddled and handled with kids gloves in literally every way possible. So the women's right movement is fucking silly.

Feminism was only reasonable during the Silent Generation era when women had REAL shit to complain about. Like not being able to vote. But now it's far overreaching and downright misandry in a lot of cases.

By the way, that whole "Women's wage gap" thing is bullshit and has been disproved several time with basic data.
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Women are coddled and handled with kids gloves in literally every way possible. So the women's right movement is fucking silly.


Feminism was only reasonable during the Silent Generation era when women had REAL shit to complain about. Like not being able to vote. But now it's far overreaching and downright misandry in a lot of cases.


By the way, that whole "Women's wage gap" thing is bullshit and has been disproved several time with basic data.


“Worldwide gender pay gap statistics

On average, women earn 77 cents for every dollar earned by men. At the current rate, it is estimated that it will take 257 years to close the global gender pay gap”

Forbes ~ February 2023
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The more power women are given, the quicker humanity descends to it's own destruction. And it is the truth. Look at what's happening today!

Have men evolved along with women ?

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You wanna be a boss babe, goahead. Enjoy your single life
But have men evolved?

No, not in my opinion.

Sometimes when you have everything you fall into complacency and laziness overcomes you
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And this statement shows how deluded you really are.

Compare modern male attitudes towards women to those a century ago, and it's almost like night and day. If that's not 'evolution' in your eyes, I suggest you refer to a dictionary for the official definition of that word.

What's happening now is that men are gradually waking-up to fact the playing field is very uneven - they've been expected to 'evolve' and accommodate women's needs, but many women are vilifying, gaslighting and extorting men regardless (while still playing the victim card when it suits them).

A good example is the 'new man' movement, which first rose to prominence in the '80s and gathered a lot of momentum in the '90s. Remember that?

A man "who rejects sexist attitudes and the traditional male role, especially in the context of domestic responsibilities and childcare, and who is (or is held to be) caring, sensitive, and non-aggressive".

This had a positive effect on Western male attitudes, but it has now been conveniently swept under the carpet because it contradicts the toxic feminist agenda.

In recent decades, many men have shown greater empathy towards women and their needs. Maybe now it's time for many women to do the same, instead of selfishly exploiting their own gender for personal gain.

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I remember that in the early 90s. It was called SNAG Sensitive New-Age Guy. Here's one on a TV show on the right:



I think I spotted @Emhendo's mother at 18:30...
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Huh—— You don’t even know who my momma actually is in life.

Nothing against that beautiful black queen, but shut the hell up bro…….. I don’t fuck with you for you to be mentioning me in shit in some ol lame shit like that’s suppose to be funny or sweet.
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Posted by DMV
Posted by MrBalance
Posted by DMV
Posted by Midnite_Riser
The more power women are given, the quicker humanity descends to it's own destruction. And it is the truth. Look at what's happening today!

Have men evolved along with women ?

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You wanna be a boss babe, goahead. Enjoy your single life
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But have men evolved?

No, not in my opinion.

Sometimes when you have everything you fall into complacency and laziness overcomes you
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Women have only evolved into their own demise. Just take a look around. I have never had any problems with women at all as many fall for me easy. But that's besides the point. We have evolved, past your BS. It's a slow process but many men are waking up. And what sort of complacency are you talking about? Some people never reach the success that they want be it man or woman and that is reality. A woman can reach all the success she wants, guess what? No guy gives a sh**. So then, what difference is that making? A woman could be a billionaire, but if she's not attractive, she is worthless. Sorry to burst your bubble. Having all of the success and money in the world will not guarentee you love. Because the reality is, what will the interested individual see first? What sticks out the most.

So what's worse a guy that only wants a chick for her looks or a chick that only wants a guy for his money? FYI, either scenario doesn't involve love of the other person.
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The reality as I said once more, is that NO guy cares about a woman's success when it comes to affairs of love and attraction.
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First of all...crock of shit! Folks be saying "flea attracts fleas; money attracts more money!" not in vain. But that's besides the point...what flew over your head is that, in general, women aren't striving to earn money in hopes to attract a mate, but to crate some form of stability & if fortunate enough, a degree of comfort for themselves. But you cant possibly see that given your inability to pull your head out of your own ass!
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Posted by Saturn_Returns
Posted by DMV
Posted by MrBalance
Posted by DMV
Posted by Midnite_Riser
The more power women are given, the quicker humanity descends to it's own destruction. And it is the truth. Look at what's happening today!

Have men evolved along with women ?

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You wanna be a boss babe, goahead. Enjoy your single life

But have men evolved?

No, not in my opinion.

Sometimes when you have everything you fall into complacency and laziness overcomes you
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And this statement shows how deluded you really are.

Compare modern male attitudes towards women to those a century ago, and it's almost like night and day. If that's not 'evolution' in your eyes, I suggest you refer to a dictionary for the official definition of that word.

What's happening now is that men are gradually waking-up to fact the playing field is very uneven - they've been expected to 'evolve' and accommodate women's needs, but many women are vilifying, gaslighting and extorting men regardless (while still playing the victim card when it suits them).

A good example is the 'new man' movement, which first rose to prominence in the '80s and gathered a lot of momentum in the '90s. Remember that?

A man "who rejects sexist attitudes and the traditional male role, especially in the context of domestic responsibilities and childcare, and who is (or is held to be) caring, sensitive, and non-aggressive".

This had a positive effect on Western male attitudes, but it has now been conveniently swept under the carpet because it contradicts the toxic feminist agenda.

In recent decades, many men have shown greater empathy towards women and their needs. Maybe now it's time for many women to do the same, instead of selfishly exploiting their own gender for personal gain.

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I remember that in the early 90s. It was called SNAG Sensitive New-Age Guy. Here's one on a TV show on the right:




I think I spotted @Emhendo's mother at 18:30...

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Huh—— You don’t even know who my momma actually is in life.


Nothing against that beautiful black queen, but shut the hell up bro…….. I don’t fuck with you for you to be mentioning me in shit in some ol lame shit like that’s suppose to be funny or sweet.


Going by your reaction, it probably was your mother.

Wow, what a small world we live in.

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This is a supremely bizarre thread….. Men here talking about whether women are unhappy or not. LOL let me be clear… MEN don’t have the power to answer that on our behalf 💀 has got to be a joke

AWWWWWWWW SOMEONE'S UNHAPPY
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In all fairness I don't think I've ever seen nano post anything positive in any way ever. It's never fun or positive. Just a problem with some situations or topic.
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This is a supremely bizarre thread….. Men here talking about whether women are unhappy or not. LOL let me be clear… MEN don’t have the power to answer that on our behalf 💀 has got to be a joke



AWWWWWWWW SOMEONE'S UNHAPPY


In all fairness I don't think I've ever seen nano post anything positive in any way ever. It's never fun or positive. Just a problem with some situations or topic.

I was only messing around posting that. I personally enjoy her presence
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Oh, same... yea me too... Her posts are always entertaining. So much depth and entertainment. Like I can't even think of something less shallow and meaningless in a post. I actually genuinely laugh and love her posts every time tbh.
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Posted by Argus
Posted by Midnite_Riser
Posted by Findingbalance
Posted by Midnite_Riser
Posted by DMV
Posted by MrBalance
Posted by DMV
Posted by Midnite_Riser
The more power women are given, the quicker humanity descends to it's own destruction. And it is the truth. Look at what's happening today!

Have men evolved along with women ?

click to expand

You wanna be a boss babe, goahead. Enjoy your single life
click to expand

But have men evolved?

No, not in my opinion.

Sometimes when you have everything you fall into complacency and laziness overcomes you
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Women have only evolved into their own demise. Just take a look around. I have never had any problems with women at all as many fall for me easy. But that's besides the point. We have evolved, past your BS. It's a slow process but many men are waking up. And what sort of complacency are you talking about? Some people never reach the success that they want be it man or woman and that is reality. A woman can reach all the success she wants, guess what? No guy gives a sh**. So then, what difference is that making? A woman could be a billionaire, but if she's not attractive, she is worthless. Sorry to burst your bubble. Having all of the success and money in the world will not guarentee you love. Because the reality is, what will the interested individual see first? What sticks out the most.

So what's worse a guy that only wants a chick for her looks or a chick that only wants a guy for his money? FYI, either scenario doesn't involve love of the other person.
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The reality as I said once more, is that NO guy cares about a woman's success when it comes to affairs of love and attraction.


First of all...crock of shit! Folks be saying "flea attracts fleas; money attracts more money!" not in vain. But that's besides the point...what flew over your head is that, in general, women aren't striving to earn money in hopes to attract a mate, but to crate some form of stability & if fortunate enough, a degree of comfort for themselves. But you cant possibly see that given your inability to pull your head out of your own ass!


That is the lie that is leading women to disaster. It doesn't matter if she reaches her HIGH success career. She will be too damn old and way past her prime. She will get bumped and dumped by the Chads, Tyrons, Ricardos and guys like me. If she still has some sort of attraction left. Just like that old lady that is in her 50s, suicidal and has almost $ 1 million in the bank with no man. Keep up the boss babe stuff. See where that gets you lol
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I know your dxp shtick is to troll which is why I'm not gonna waste much of my energy on you other than to say, I'm sure most women are breathing a heartfelt sigh of relief for having dodged a bullet called Chad, Tyrone, Richardo or You ( no offense to decent human beings who go by aforementioned names, present company excluded)!!!