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I finally joined the local gym this week. Three workouts in and I feel better already.

Since I'm new, was wondering if any of you had a gym program and would appreciate any advice you could toss my way.

Such as:
What's your program?
What keeps you motivated?
What inspires you?
How do you keep from getting bored with it?
What time of day works best for you?
What machines work the best for you?
What machines do you feel aren't beneficial?
Etc.

Thanks in advance!


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Posted by DeepWaterSting
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What are your goals ?
I agree that your goals matter here. Are you just looking for tone or to build muscle mass? There are plenty of aerobic exercises that do better than using weight machines for most women. I would have to say most tone in women starts with their butt and legs and this can be accomplished using the walking machines at various speeds and inclines.

One thing I would caution you is take your time and gradually set daily goals that are reasonable to achieve. Too often people set high goals that are not achievable because they feel they can accomplish them without a lot of effort. If you are not used to it and you are a little older you can easily be discouraged.

Good luck with this. With your Capricorn nature I think you will do just fine.
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Thanks! I do want to be realistic.
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What's your program?
Program? As in what do I do at the gym? I do what I feel like, depending on the day. I just need to expel energy so whatever I’m feeling that day, is what I’ll do. Either yoga, cardio, and/or some light weights.

What keeps you motivated?
NOT GETTING FAT.

What inspires you?
Women that look amazing for their age.

How do you keep from getting bored with it?
Music, and self-motivation. I talk to myself in my head (ok, sometimes in the mirror), pump myself up. Sometimes I get lazy though, ridiculously lazy.

What time of day works best for you?
Right after work. Never been a morning person, and late at night, I’m usually plopped on the couch lol

What machines work the best for you?
For Yoga, I don’t use any equipment – I know you can, but I don’t find it necessary.

For Cardio, I use the Elliptical, but that’s bc I have sensitive knees and a very bad ankle from when I used to dance, and I’ve been told many, many, times to avoid running – it’s too bad bc the high can be great.

For Weights, I just use like 5-8lb weights just to tone my arms and chest. My legs are just fine naturally, always have been – yoga helps tone my legs too, which is more than enough for my body type.

What machines do you feel aren't beneficial?
They’re all good, depending on what you want to work on. But I personally hate the stationary bike – my upper body doesn’t get a workout, and something about sitting while working out just seems counterproductive to me – I don’t feel like I’m actually getting a good work out, if that makes sense. Plus, like I said, my legs never need that much work to look good.
I don't think I have the balance to do yoga, I'm kind clutzy. lol!
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Posted by YellowSubmarine
What's your program?
Program? As in what do I do at the gym? I do what I feel like, depending on the day. I just need to expel energy so whatever I’m feeling that day, is what I’ll do. Either yoga, cardio, and/or some light weights.

What keeps you motivated?
NOT GETTING FAT.

What inspires you?
Women that look amazing for their age.

How do you keep from getting bored with it?
Music, and self-motivation. I talk to myself in my head (ok, sometimes in the mirror), pump myself up. Sometimes I get lazy though, ridiculously lazy.

What time of day works best for you?
Right after work. Never been a morning person, and late at night, I’m usually plopped on the couch lol

What machines work the best for you?
For Yoga, I don’t use any equipment – I know you can, but I don’t find it necessary.

For Cardio, I use the Elliptical, but that’s bc I have sensitive knees and a very bad ankle from when I used to dance, and I’ve been told many, many, times to avoid running – it’s too bad bc the high can be great.

For Weights, I just use like 5-8lb weights just to tone my arms and chest. My legs are just fine naturally, always have been – yoga helps tone my legs too, which is more than enough for my body type.

What machines do you feel aren't beneficial?
They’re all good, depending on what you want to work on. But I personally hate the stationary bike – my upper body doesn’t get a workout, and something about sitting while working out just seems counterproductive to me – I don’t feel like I’m actually getting a good work out, if that makes sense. Plus, like I said, my legs never need that much work to look good.
I don't think I have the balance to do yoga, I'm kind clutzy. lol!
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Posted by truecap
I finally joined the local gym this week. Three workouts in and I feel better already.

Since I'm new, was wondering if any of you had a gym program and would appreciate any advice you could toss my way.

Such as:
What's your program?
What keeps you motivated?
What inspires you?
How do you keep from getting bored with it?
What time of day works best for you?
What machines work the best for you?
What machines do you feel aren't beneficial?
Etc.

Thanks in advance!

1) Deadlift. Squat. Shrug. Add in weighted dips and weighted pull-ups. Everything else is gravy.
2) Knowing that I'm about to do the above.
3) See 2.
4) Adding more plates to the bar.
5) During the week, late evenings. During weekends, early morning or late afternoon.
6) Machines? Nope. Free weights: Dumbbells, Oly bar + plates.
7) Most of them.
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Is it better to do more reps with less weight or to do more weight with less reps?
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Posted by truecap
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What are your goals ?
Get stronger, tone up and lose inches. And of course, to have more energy.
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I would start by getting a basic schedule for yourself...for example mine is:

Mondays: Triceps/Chest/Shoulders + 20 Min HIIT
Tuesdays: Quads/Calves/Abs + Hour Long Walk/Jog
Wednesdays: Biceps/Back + 20 Min HIIT
Thursdays: Hamstrings/Glutes/Abs + Hour Long Walk/Jog
Fridays: Rest or just a long walk after work
Sat/Sun: I try to hike or take a run on the beach

I lift pretty heavy and I do 3 sets of 15 for most machines, but I also have a slew of non-weight exercises (push-ups, planks, etc). Often times I find that the body weight exercises give me better results that the machines at the gym if you pay attention to form. I'd be happy to send you a list of what I do for each day.
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I'm 5'6 and 99 lbs which is very much genetic since my whole family is slim at all ages even after kids. I pretty much can't gain weight no matter how much I eat, which sounds great, but I'm seriously lacking in muscle and I hate feeling and looking fragile. I'm female so I don't want to be too vulnerable.

cardio is a no for me. I absolutely cannot afford to lose any more weight.
My goal is strength and fitness. I've tried gym stuff and all the repetition with weights and squats and stuff just hurts my joints. I feel like my knees would pop out their sockets. And this was under the guidance of a trainer, so it's not bad technique. Just not good for my body.

I did ballet for most of my childhood and really loved it and it was a great workout. I might revisit that.
I will trade bodies with you 🙂
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I'm 5'6 and 99 lbs which is very much genetic since my whole family is slim at all ages even after kids. I pretty much can't gain weight no matter how much I eat, which sounds great, but I'm seriously lacking in muscle and I hate feeling and looking fragile. I'm female so I don't want to be too vulnerable.

cardio is a no for me. I absolutely cannot afford to lose any more weight.
My goal is strength and fitness. I've tried gym stuff and all the repetition with weights and squats and stuff just hurts my joints. I feel like my knees would pop out their sockets. And this was under the guidance of a trainer, so it's not bad technique. Just not good for my body.

I did ballet for most of my childhood and really loved it and it was a great workout. I might revisit that.
I think diet could help you tremendously as a starting point to help propel you into a fitness regimen that will allow you to build muscle.

At 5'6" and 99lbs your BMI is 15.98 which is considered very low or even underweight, but since it is genetic I wouldn't worry too much about that. What I would do is eat around 1,600-1,700 calories a day, consisting of 200-230g carbs (to come from oats, brown rice, sweet potato...slow digesting carbs), 30-40g fat (avocado, coconut oil, nut butters), 20-25g fiber (fruits, veg, the oats), and the rest should come from protein sources (most protein has around 4 calories per gram). Aim for around 100g protein a day.
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Ghee is a better alternative to butter, but it’s benefits have been widely debated – I grew up around ghee, and just FYI, it’s often used in India to fatten up low-weight babies.. and it works every time. I would advise against it. Tastes like shit too.
Wait it's a better alternative to butter but you would still advise against it? Why?
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Haha wow 3,500 calories equates to a pound a day and you aren't gaining weight?!

I would gain weight at even 1,500 calories but that's because my metabolism is fucked and I'm constantly trying to turn it back into a furnace by eating enough. It's a catch 22.

Try using ghee also for your healthy fats. And nuts of course.
I love ghee 🙂

1500 calories is not very much 😢 Do you get enough sleep? That can really slow down metabolism due to the leptin/gremlin imbalance that occurs without at least 6 hours of restful sleep.
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Nope I have really, really bad insomnia (have for years) and I am sure that's the culprit. I am only taking melatonin and valerian root now because Ambien makes me sleep walk and sleep online shop/email and it got very bad, plus I would wake up feeling hungover. I usually get around 4 hours.
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Machines are awesome because they provide the best control, stability and safety. Most idiots out there with herniated discs, torn muscles, pulled tendons and other related avoidable accidents are the same fools who arrogantly proclaim that machines are badddddddd.

It's always amusing to hear their excuses as to why they can't work out for 6 months due to an injury, and their inevitable stupidity usually follows their arrogance right into the injury.
Yes, those who cheat and try to lift more than they can handle in a natural movement will suffer injuries.

However, free weights activate the stabilizer muscles while machines mainly activate the targeted area.

Free weights = having control over your body

Relying on machines = they have control over what should be your natural movements, thereby control over your body.

I only use machines to warm up.




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I used to feel the same way, but more so because I didn’t think I was flexible enough and that I’d look like a fool trying to be lol.. But doing it is what gets you there. It’s not about achieving the perfect pose, it’s about mastering your body – as you practice yoga, your body learns. The human body is an amazing thing – trust it.

Before I took actual classes, I had started with this:


Check out her other videos, they’re great for slowly advancing your practice.

Nothing, and I mean nothing, has helped me center myself and calm my thoughts the way yoga has. It’s fantastic for toning, and gives you a lot of energy – a calm energy, a manageable one.
Awesome!! Thanks so much!
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Doesn't building muscle mass increase your metabolism and burn more calories in day to day normal activities?
Yes, it does. Most people think "ok, muscle mass" so they start lifting like crazy - but this will only make you bulkier. Plus, no amount of toning will show unless you burn the fat that's covering it (cardio is key, and if you do HIIT, you only need it max 3 times a week).

If you want to achieve lean muscle, you gotta do fewer reps (I do 10-12) but faster (take only a 20-30 second break in between). As time goes on, you will feel less and less challenged. When this happens, increase the weight, but not the reps (unless you want to look like a body builder, in which case, increase both). Do it until you feel a burn that's bearable, and then do one more set, and stop. If you keep going past this point, it's counterproductive.

Diet plays a huge factor in metabolism too. You gotta eat smaller meals, but more often. Lower bad carbs and sugars, increase lean protein and good carbs.
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That really helps a lot. Thank you for breaking it down like that.
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What are your goals ?
Get stronger, tone up and lose inches. And of course, to have more energy.
I would start by getting a basic schedule for yourself...for example mine is:

Mondays: Triceps/Chest/Shoulders + 20 Min HIIT
Tuesdays: Quads/Calves/Abs + Hour Long Walk/Jog
Wednesdays: Biceps/Back + 20 Min HIIT
Thursdays: Hamstrings/Glutes/Abs + Hour Long Walk/Jog
Fridays: Rest or just a long walk after work
Sat/Sun: I try to hike or take a run on the beach

I lift pretty heavy and I do 3 sets of 15 for most machines, but I also have a slew of non-weight exercises (push-ups, planks, etc). Often times I find that the body weight exercises give me better results that the machines at the gym if you pay attention to form. I'd be happy to send you a list of what I do for each day.
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You're really a serious worker outer! I do hope to get to a schedule like that.
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Posted by truecap
I finally joined the local gym this week. Three workouts in and I feel better already.

Since I'm new, was wondering if any of you had a gym program and would appreciate any advice you could toss my way.

Such as:
What's your program?
What keeps you motivated?
What inspires you?
How do you keep from getting bored with it?
What time of day works best for you?
What machines work the best for you?
What machines do you feel aren't beneficial?
Etc.

Thanks in advance!

1. 2 group of muscles per workout.
2. i feel better after, nothing else.
3. the same as 2.
4. variety but honestly i find it boring anyway
5. after work is the best for me
6. no machines. no one serious will recommend you machines
7....

for start it will be good that someone monitors you, and if you can pay someone to make you a program just for you. later you can do it on your own. if you do it right it is less likely that you will give up.

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I think once I start seeing results body-wise, I will be more disciplined and keep after it. I already feel better energy-wise, so that's a start.
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Posted by centipedes
I'm 5'6 and 99 lbs which is very much genetic since my whole family is slim at all ages even after kids. I pretty much can't gain weight no matter how much I eat, which sounds great, but I'm seriously lacking in muscle and I hate feeling and looking fragile. I'm female so I don't want to be too vulnerable.

cardio is a no for me. I absolutely cannot afford to lose any more weight.
My goal is strength and fitness. I've tried gym stuff and all the repetition with weights and squats and stuff just hurts my joints. I feel like my knees would pop out their sockets. And this was under the guidance of a trainer, so it's not bad technique. Just not good for my body.

I did ballet for most of my childhood and really loved it and it was a great workout. I might revisit that.
I did take a weight training class in college, so many years ago. I've forgotten just about everything, but I do remember them saying that if you build the muscle that supports your joints and back, then your muscles will support your joints instead of your joints supporting themselves and you'll end up with less joint issues.
We had a girl with knee problems in our class and by the end of the semester, her knees hardly ever hurt her.

Sad, that's about all I remember, though.
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Ghee is a better alternative to butter, but it’s benefits have been widely debated – I grew up around ghee, and just FYI, it’s often used in India to fatten up low-weight babies.. and it works every time. I would advise against it. Tastes like shit too.
Wait it's a better alternative to butter but you would still advise against it? Why?
For the reasons I already stated..
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Well she wants to put on weight so the fatten up part isn't a deterrent. But I think the profanity filter really delivered some miscommunication here because you said it tastes like butter which sounds amazing because it's a butter alternative but I think it was supposed to say it tastes like another word for poop.
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I'm 5'6 and 99 lbs which is very much genetic since my whole family is slim at all ages even after kids. I pretty much can't gain weight no matter how much I eat, which sounds great, but I'm seriously lacking in muscle and I hate feeling and looking fragile. I'm female so I don't want to be too vulnerable.

cardio is a no for me. I absolutely cannot afford to lose any more weight.
My goal is strength and fitness. I've tried gym stuff and all the repetition with weights and squats and stuff just hurts my joints. I feel like my knees would pop out their sockets. And this was under the guidance of a trainer, so it's not bad technique. Just not good for my body.

I did ballet for most of my childhood and really loved it and it was a great workout. I might revisit that.
I did take a weight training class in college, so many years ago. I've forgotten just about everything, but I do remember them saying that if you build the muscle that supports your joints and back, then your muscles will support your joints instead of your joints supporting themselves and you'll end up with less joint issues.
We had a girl with knee problems in our class and by the end of the semester, her knees hardly ever hurt her.

Sad, that's about all I remember, though.
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And of course, your issue may be completely different. And don't take any advice from me, because I obviously don't know what I'm doing. lol!
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Machines are awesome because they provide the best control, stability and safety. Most idiots out there with herniated discs, torn muscles, pulled tendons and other related avoidable accidents are the same fools who arrogantly proclaim that machines are badddddddd.

It's always amusing to hear their excuses as to why they can't work out for 6 months due to an injury, and their inevitable stupidity usually follows their arrogance right into the injury.
Yes, those who cheat and try to lift more than they can handle in a natural movement will suffer injuries.

However, free weights activate the stabilizer muscles while machines mainly activate the targeted area.

Free weights = having control over your body

Relying on machines = they have control over what should be your natural movements, thereby control over your body.

I only use machines to warm up.




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^^^^This
While it seems tedious, it is wise when starting out to do some exercises to specifically strengthen the stabilizers so that when you do free weights, less chance of a mishap.
I do occasionally use machines if I'm focusing on one specific muscle. It does pay to change things up as well because the body can get used to the same exercises each week. For instance, I have been doing more of things like jumping and side shuffle squats, walking lunge etc, but am going back to "going heavy" on legs next week.
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You guys are awesome! Thanks for helping me out and explaining some things to me. I figured there were some people here that worked out and could offer some good pointers.

Thanks again!!

I'll let you know in a few weeks if I see any results and how I'm doing with it all.
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Doesn't building muscle mass increase your metabolism and burn more calories in day to day normal activities?
I'm too shy to get muscular.
I don't want to bulk up like wrestler, just have more muscle than fat. lol!
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Some fat and excess skin (the latter especially if you've lost weight without bulking up) from years of abuse you cannot lose the natural way, neither through diet or workout.. which is where the dreaded "bulking up" works its magic ,basically the added muscle mass stretches the targeted area, giving a firm(er) look.

Women shouldn't be afraid to lift heavier in the gym, it's actually more efficiant: If you eat relatively healthy you barely have to watch your diet, it's good on your metabolism and you're burning more calories overall ...whereas the "less weight, more reps" your efforts won't really show unless you make some serious changes in your diet. Of course it depends on body type..

But some women are terrified of gaining muscle mass, like you're gonna turn into a steroid popper by accident -- "don't look at me, I'm hideous" lol. That takes effort, it's a full-time job and doesn't just happen. So don't be afraid to use weights.

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Message me if you want any info. I actually got educated in this stuff. I just get tired of repeating myself amongst all the myths and gym rat misinformation. It's exhausting and why I do not want to become a personal trainer. :/

Good for you for wanting to make a change for your overall wellbeing though. This is definitely the starting point that'll get you there and help long term.
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Also, try to eat your body weight or more in grams of protein. Protein keeps you fuller longer and helps boost metabolism.

I eat at 7am, 1030am, 130pm, 430pm (snack before gym), and 730pm. Every meal contains a good amount of protein. I usually keep my carbs at breakfast or right before the gym.
NO.

Do NOT recommend this as it is GROSSLY misinformed and incorrect. You will fuck up her kidneys with this information. YOU will fuck up YOUR kidneys with this approach. I knew of someone who was told this moronic "equation" and they ended up nearly damaging their kidneys. That is TOO much protein.

Protein is not the be all magical work out food. Get the hell off this mindset.

The CORRECT equation for protein intake is your weight in KILOGRAMS x .8,.9, or even 1. Tbh, most people are fine at 8 or 9. One is for those who do some heavy work outs. The number can be higher, but we're talking elite athlete status and the OP isn't in that range for what she wants to accomplish.

Besides, when you work out, CARBS are your energy source. Protein is only used so much when building muscle mass. This ignorant protein craze drives me nuts because it's so horribly, horribly wrong and perpetuated by the companies who sell tubs of protein powder. People preach it as fact.

Again, gym rat ignorance is touted as fact when the people actually educated on the matter are drowned out with the factual information because dudebro who pops roids and is big as a house says it works and... look at him! IT MUST WORK. *facepalm*
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Message me if you want any info. I actually got educated in this stuff. I just get tired of repeating myself amongst all the myths and gym rat misinformation. It's exhausting and why I do not want to become a personal trainer. :/

Good for you for wanting to make a change for your overall wellbeing though. This is definitely the starting point that'll get you there and help long term.
That's just the thing and why it's all so interesting. There is more than one approach and they are always coming out with new techniques and programs. I do believe a lot of it is individual based, like what works for one may not work another.
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You totally missed the point.

There are different approaches to work out regimens, yes. But the actual scientific data as to what actually works doesn't really change. Exercise prescription allows for varying approaches, but the actual physiology in what happens when you exercise does not change.

The shit you hear around the gyms is dudebro logic from guys who got their information from the sales dude at GNC or body building forums, which is... such the wrong place for the average individual who wants to work out to lose weight.
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Also, try to eat your body weight or more in grams of protein. Protein keeps you fuller longer and helps boost metabolism.

I eat at 7am, 1030am, 130pm, 430pm (snack before gym), and 730pm. Every meal contains a good amount of protein. I usually keep my carbs at breakfast or right before the gym.
NO.

Do NOT recommend this as it is GROSSLY misinformed and incorrect. You will fuck up her kidneys with this information. YOU will fuck up YOUR kidneys with this approach. I knew of someone who was told this moronic "equation" and they ended up nearly damaging their kidneys. That is TOO much protein.

Protein is not the be all magical work out food. Get the hell off this mindset.

The CORRECT equation for protein intake is your weight in KILOGRAMS x .8,.9, or even 1. Tbh, most people are fine at 8 or 9. One is for those who do some heavy work outs. The number can be higher, but we're talking elite athlete status and the OP isn't in that range for what she wants to accomplish.

Besides, when you work out, CARBS are your energy source. Protein is only used so much when building muscle mass. This ignorant protein craze drives me nuts because it's so horribly, horribly wrong and perpetuated by the companies who sell tubs of protein powder. People preach it as fact.

Again, gym rat ignorance is touted as fact when the people actually educated on the matter are drowned out with the factual information because dudebro who pops roids and is big as a house says it works and... look at him! IT MUST WORK. *facepalm*
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You are feisty! My recommendation is to do your own research and then decide. The fittest I have ever been is when I was eating around 100-120g protein per day and lifting heavier.

No need to call me a moron. I'm simply stating what has worked for me and what works for many, many, many others. Has nothing to do with a "craze".
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I'm 5'6 and 99 lbs which is very much genetic since my whole family is slim at all ages even after kids. I pretty much can't gain weight no matter how much I eat, which sounds great, but I'm seriously lacking in muscle and I hate feeling and looking fragile. I'm female so I don't want to be too vulnerable.

cardio is a no for me. I absolutely cannot afford to lose any more weight.
My goal is strength and fitness. I've tried gym stuff and all the repetition with weights and squats and stuff just hurts my joints. I feel like my knees would pop out their sockets. And this was under the guidance of a trainer, so it's not bad technique. Just not good for my body.

I did ballet for most of my childhood and really loved it and it was a great workout. I might revisit that.
I did take a weight training class in college, so many years ago. I've forgotten just about everything, but I do remember them saying that if you build the muscle that supports your joints and back, then your muscles will support your joints instead of your joints supporting themselves and you'll end up with less joint issues.
We had a girl with knee problems in our class and by the end of the semester, her knees hardly ever hurt her.

Sad, that's about all I remember, though.
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This is true, but the entire thing behind that is muscle compensation. Women are more prone to knee injury due to an imbalance of quads vs hamstrings as well as hips not being aligned correctly (also muscle imbalance). Quads are pretty powerful muscles and easily cause a big imbalance between the two, posing higher risk for knee injury.

So the idea is right, but it's not so much "building" muscle all around, it's creating an equal balance between everything. It's why it's so important to incorporate all muscle groups when doing resistance training. Yoga is also a great way to help with general aches and pains since it keeps everything stretched out. Imbalances also cause muscle tension and dysfunction.
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I'm 5'6 and 99 lbs which is very much genetic since my whole family is slim at all ages even after kids. I pretty much can't gain weight no matter how much I eat, which sounds great, but I'm seriously lacking in muscle and I hate feeling and looking fragile. I'm female so I don't want to be too vulnerable.

cardio is a no for me. I absolutely cannot afford to lose any more weight.
My goal is strength and fitness. I've tried gym stuff and all the repetition with weights and squats and stuff just hurts my joints. I feel like my knees would pop out their sockets. And this was under the guidance of a trainer, so it's not bad technique. Just not good for my body.

I did ballet for most of my childhood and really loved it and it was a great workout. I might revisit that.
I did take a weight training class in college, so many years ago. I've forgotten just about everything, but I do remember them saying that if you build the muscle that supports your joints and back, then your muscles will support your joints instead of your joints supporting themselves and you'll end up with less joint issues.
We had a girl with knee problems in our class and by the end of the semester, her knees hardly ever hurt her.

Sad, that's about all I remember, though.
This is true, but the entire thing behind that is muscle compensation. Women are more prone to knee injury due to an imbalance of quads vs hamstrings as well as hips not being aligned correctly (also muscle imbalance). Quads are pretty powerful muscles and easily cause a big imbalance between the two, posing higher risk for knee injury.

So the idea is right, but it's not so much "building" muscle all around, it's creating an equal balance between everything. It's why it's so important to incorporate all muscle groups when doing resistance training. Yoga is also a great way to help with general aches and pains since it keeps everything stretched out. Imbalances also cause muscle tension and dysfunction.
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Maybe that's what they were trying to say.
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Posted by ashley1734


You are feisty! My recommendation is to do your own research and then decide. The fittest I have ever been is when I was eating around 100-120g protein per day and lifting heavier.

No need to call me a moron. I'm simply stating what has worked for me and what works for many, many, many others. Has nothing to do with a "craze".
Sweetheart, I didn't call you a moron. I said that silly equation is moronic. Whoever told you that is wrong and the moron.

MY recommendation is ask someone who knows what the hell they're talking about. You can't sit here and give wrong advice and then backpedal and say "oh well they should do their reasearch." Mine is "don't give advice if you clearly have no proper training or education on the matter." For some reason, people think to seem that once they work out a few times, they're qualified to start doling out advice as if they're trainers themselves.

And yes sweetie, it does have to do with "craze." I mean, you can continue arguing with me if you want. I'll let you call up my professors with doctorates in exercise physiology and see what they have to say about your silly view on protein intake as they're the ones who educated me and I'd rather believe them over dudebro roid dude at the gym or internet trainer dude who read four books and gives out such advice. I also know quite a few RDs who would counter your information as well.


Your silly response is why I can't be bothered with personal training. Too many "well this is my belief so it's fact" mentalities out there.
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