The Pisces Supremacy

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After 15 years, I'm dating another Pisces again. I had forgotten what it was like to have someone invest in me in a way that says more about them than me. Something about me that is always misunderstood, and I thought it was just me... until now, when I'm reconnecting with another of my kind.

After dating a Libra for 8 years, then spending a year of singularly focused self-improvement... the second half of 2025 has been all about forcing myself back out there. And it's been successful, as far as being a man in his mid 30s entering a new dating pool in a different social/technological landscape can be. I will say, women are so much sexier in their 30s than their 20s, and I have no interest in women under 28, I think. I do not get the appeal. Or maybe its just that my generation aged better than all the others, anyway, so I'm dating women who still look 20s but move 30s. I digress.

I am naturally generous, in ways that I am aware can be interpreted as performative, grandiose, or over-invested. And it's my Achilles heel. I simply don't share the same value systems as most people, at least not in the same order.

Case-in-point: I was talking to a woman who I've only known for a few days, and she wanted to watch Stranger Things with me. She mentions that she wants to upgrade her home audio, but she doesn't know what to do. To her: casual conversation. To me: an opportunity for me for one of my favorite pasttimes: buying technology, setting up technology, enjoying technology. And yes, in my mind: she's a nice person, so I see no issue with doing something nice for her. So why not?

So I immediately offer to buy her some speakers and set them up for her. Am I aware that shelling out a few hundred dollars on Sonos equipment for someone I've known less than a week is borderline socially unacceptable? Sure, because, in most instances it means that I am either A. trying to flex/impress B. Trying to ingratiate myself with her C. Trying to guilt/expecting reciprocity D. Am obsessed with her and overly invested- way too much, way too soon.

But the truth is that I just actually enjoyed the idea of it almost as much as if I were doing it for myself. Living vicariously, basically. I would love to purchase myself a bunch of Sonos speakers and set them up for myself, but I can't justify doing that because I already did that and... there's really no further benefit to me. But I CAN justify it here, because SHE would benefit, and since I knew I'd be watching stuff at her house, I would also benefit. Do I want anything from her in return? No. Gratitude would certainly be nice, but that's not the purpose. Would I do it for someone I hate? No, of course not. But does this mean I think this is my soulmate and I have expectations of long term loyalty? Also no. That's not the point.

Ultimately, I comprehend appearances perfectly well, it's just not high on priority list. I didn't want anything out of this, it just simply wasn't a big deal to me. I saw an opportunity where I could make someone's day a little bit better, and I didn't have any reason why I shouldn't do it (beyond social games, which I just can't bring myself to care about.)

All of this is to say is that this is how I operate within the world, but it's been a very long time since I had someone just randomly do someone out of the blue that was kind and sweet and unwarranted and unrequested. Until now. Until now that I'm dating another Pisces. And is she into me? I think so. Not that much. I don't think she's in love with me. But when she randomly showed up at my house yesterday to give me a fancy drink that she mentioned on our date, called me randomly in the middle of the day and asked if I was busy? Literally just dropped it off and left, no time for talking because she did this on a break from work. Was she trying to woo me? I'm sure that was a tertiary benefit/desire for her. But like... I also understand that she's just a very nice person who thought it'd be fun to do something nice for me. It says more about her than me.

Because when I texted her thanking her for making my day, she responded with something I always find myself saying "It was my pleasure." That's so literal. I'm sure she was just as excited to do it as I was to have a nice fancy drink show up.

The point is: Pisces remain the best, better than the rest. Sorry to all the others. Y'all are great. But... my god, it has been a long time since a woman spontaneously did something for me that wasn't rooted in lust or love or on the flipside guilt or pity. IOW: rooted in some sort of social pseudo-psychological bid for reciprocity or fulfillment of obligation. I'm so used to other people responding mostly to social obligations, and weirding people out that I do shit just because "it seemed like a good idea at the time."

I'd forgotten it was even on the table.
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Pisces are unmatched when it comes to empathy, but I've known too many who wield that empathy for evil. "emotional terrorists" are the perfect descriptor for them


It can happen, but it's more likely Scorpios who intentionally commit emotional terrorism.

That said, to be clear: I'm not praising Piscean empathy. Just Piscean generalized kindness and detachment from social norms. The latter isn't even a moral judgment or a claim that Pisces are more selfless. If anything, it's the opposite. I'm saying Pisces are the type to do nice things because of how it makes them feel rather than the recipient. Arguably more selfish.

But the benefit to that is that it's socially simpler. If a Pisces is nice to me, I know there's no angle. They don't really care about my response because it's not about me.

Again, it's Scorpios who will calibrate your reaction to their generosity, and cast judgment on your response. And as such, the are more likely to overanalyze kindness directed towards them as a "play".

Cancers are also sort of detached from the socially performative aspects of kindness, similar to Pisces. It's just that Cancers are kind of unstable. They can be salt of the earth one day, and total dicks the next, with no bearing on your own behavior because their internal emotional architecture dominates their social landscape. If they're in a bad mood and you happen to interact with them, they'll project their bad mood onto you.

If a Pisces is nice one day and then dicks the next, it's assured that you did something that rubbed them wrong. Doesn't mean their moral/logical calculus is accurate. But since there IS a calculus, you'll almost always get the opportunity to appeal their ruling.
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I've always liked pisces. I wonder if Cap bears any resemblance to them in any way. Surely there's a hidden mysticism if anything due to the goat being part sea goat and within the water.. partially.

But sometimes you never know if a Pisces is on your side or not. I think my bro who is pisces will be shifty and vague like cancer and refuse to answer certain questions. But, in the end, he's been more caring than not. I think that I'm just being unimaginative and boring, not playing along with whatever he throws out into the world.
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I love Pisces peeps, but would never describe them as supreme.

And I wouldn’t agree when you say they do things for others while asking for nothing in return. I know many instances where that is true, but also many where it is not - they sometimes set little traps when they want to date you.


You shouldn't describe them as supreme, unless you are also one. Then you had better.
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I love Pisces peeps, but would never describe them as supreme.

And I wouldn’t agree when you say they do things for others while asking for nothing in return. I know many instances where that is true, but also many where it is not - they sometimes set little traps when they want to date you.

You shouldn't describe them as supreme, unless you are also one. Then you had better.
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😆 Now you sounds like my Pisces friend with a Leo moon. Says stuff like that all the time, cracks me up.

I’m actually on the plane to go see him, soon.

Very funny 👌

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I've always liked pisces. I wonder if Cap bears any resemblance to them in any way. Surely there's a hidden mysticism if anything due to the goat being part sea goat and within the water.. partially.

But sometimes you never know if a Pisces is on your side or not. I think my bro who is pisces will be shifty and vague like cancer and refuse to answer certain questions. But, in the end, he's been more caring than not. I think that I'm just being unimaginative and boring, not playing along with whatever he throws out into the world.


Sure. Caps are interesting creatures. I'm not sure what makes them tick, but I have been on adventures with them. They can hang with the mutable gang well enough.

I'll be honest about Pisces: loyalty is not our strong suit. It's not because we don't want to be loyal, but because we tend to interpret loyalty different. There is a definition gap. It caused an issue for me in a past relationship. She would be in conflicts and I thought she was in the wrong. Loyalty to me = I'm not going to throw her under the bus, and I'm not going to abandon her. Loyalty to her = I'm going to take her side and back her up.

I'm not saying either is wrong or right, but I think most people interpret loyalty as "I will side with you out of loyalty" and Pisces just don't. We're more "I will stay by your side out of loyalty".

-But I'm sorry, I'm not going to pretend you aren't being the bitch in this situation, and I'm not going to attack this stranger because they got to the parking spot before you. I'm going to try and deescalate and that means I'm arguing with you because you are the aggressor, and yes that means I'm contradicting you in front of your new enemy. I'll step in on your side if things get physical but you are being a bitch and I don't want to catch assault charges on your behalf, or worse, a bullet. I WILL if it comes to that, but I intend to avoid that at all costs.-
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Yeap. My hubby shares your placements, pisces sun and aqua venus. I totally get what you're saying and now I am confirmed about what he has done so far for me.. it's been so sweet that I feel guilty for.. for I, as one scorpio, do calibrate and I have to say it sucks.

But when two energies meshed fully in, you can get confused about your being.. especially for pisces and I have my sun in pisces house & 4th house (I have pisces parents as well)..

So also I agree with what Roller says up there about gets unsure where to stand with pisces because of its illusive nature..

But in general, imo, pisces and scorps can understand each other pretty well despites differences..
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Case-in-point: I was talking to a woman who I've only known for a few days, and she wanted to watch Stranger Things with me. She mentions that she wants to upgrade her home audio, but she doesn't know what to do. To her: casual conversation. To me: an opportunity for me for one of my favorite pasttimes: buying technology, setting up technology, enjoying technology. And yes, in my mind: she's a nice person, so I see no issue with doing something nice for her. So why not?

So I immediately offer to buy her some speakers and set them up for her. Am I aware that shelling out a few hundred dollars on Sonos equipment for someone I've known less than a week is borderline socially unacceptable? Sure, because, in most instances it means that I am either A. trying to flex/impress B. Trying to ingratiate myself with her C. Trying to guilt/expecting reciprocity D. Am obsessed with her and overly invested- way too much, way too soon.

But the truth is that I just actually enjoyed the idea of it almost as much as if I were doing it for myself.


How was your simping received? 😬

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I've always liked pisces. I wonder if Cap bears any resemblance to them in any way. Surely there's a hidden mysticism if anything due to the goat being part sea goat and within the water.. partially.

But sometimes you never know if a Pisces is on your side or not. I think my bro who is pisces will be shifty and vague like cancer and refuse to answer certain questions. But, in the end, he's been more caring than not. I think that I'm just being unimaginative and boring, not playing along with whatever he throws out into the world.

Sure. Caps are interesting creatures. I'm not sure what makes them tick, but I have been on adventures with them. They can hang with the mutable gang well enough.

I'll be honest about Pisces: loyalty is not our strong suit. It's not because we don't want to be loyal, but because we tend to interpret loyalty different. There is a definition gap. It caused an issue for me in a past relationship. She would be in conflicts and I thought she was in the wrong. Loyalty to me = I'm not going to throw her under the bus, and I'm not going to abandon her. Loyalty to her = I'm going to take her side and back her up.

I'm not saying either is wrong or right, but I think most people interpret loyalty as "I will side with you out of loyalty" and Pisces just don't. We're more "I will stay by your side out of loyalty".

-But I'm sorry, I'm not going to pretend you aren't being the bitch in this situation, and I'm not going to attack this stranger because they got to the parking spot before you. I'm going to try and deescalate and that means I'm arguing with you because you are the aggressor, and yes that means I'm contradicting you in front of your new enemy. I'll step in on your side if things get physical but you are being a bitch and I don't want to catch assault charges on your behalf, or worse, a bullet. I WILL if it comes to that, but I intend to avoid that at all costs.-
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Well!! You don't know how your explanation about pisces' loyalty helps me A LOT. Thanks!

Now I know .. and I am pretty much sure what you said is the reason why he is like that..
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I've always liked pisces. I wonder if Cap bears any resemblance to them in any way. Surely there's a hidden mysticism if anything due to the goat being part sea goat and within the water.. partially.

But sometimes you never know if a Pisces is on your side or not. I think my bro who is pisces will be shifty and vague like cancer and refuse to answer certain questions. But, in the end, he's been more caring than not. I think that I'm just being unimaginative and boring, not playing along with whatever he throws out into the world.

Sure. Caps are interesting creatures. I'm not sure what makes them tick, but I have been on adventures with them. They can hang with the mutable gang well enough.

I'll be honest about Pisces: loyalty is not our strong suit. It's not because we don't want to be loyal, but because we tend to interpret loyalty different. There is a definition gap. It caused an issue for me in a past relationship. She would be in conflicts and I thought she was in the wrong. Loyalty to me = I'm not going to throw her under the bus, and I'm not going to abandon her. Loyalty to her = I'm going to take her side and back her up.

I'm not saying either is wrong or right, but I think most people interpret loyalty as "I will side with you out of loyalty" and Pisces just don't. We're more "I will stay by your side out of loyalty".

-But I'm sorry, I'm not going to pretend you aren't being the bitch in this situation, and I'm not going to attack this stranger because they got to the parking spot before you. I'm going to try and deescalate and that means I'm arguing with you because you are the aggressor, and yes that means I'm contradicting you in front of your new enemy. I'll step in on your side if things get physical but you are being a bitch and I don't want to catch assault charges on your behalf, or worse, a bullet. I WILL if it comes to that, but I intend to avoid that at all costs.-
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Well!! You don't know how your explanation about pisces' loyalty helps me A LOT. Thanks!

Now I know .. and I am pretty much sure what you said is the reason why he is like that..
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Case-in-point: I was talking to a woman who I've only known for a few days, and she wanted to watch Stranger Things with me. She mentions that she wants to upgrade her home audio, but she doesn't know what to do. To her: casual conversation. To me: an opportunity for me for one of my favorite pasttimes: buying technology, setting up technology, enjoying technology. And yes, in my mind: she's a nice person, so I see no issue with doing something nice for her. So why not?

So I immediately offer to buy her some speakers and set them up for her. Am I aware that shelling out a few hundred dollars on Sonos equipment for someone I've known less than a week is borderline socially unacceptable? Sure, because, in most instances it means that I am either A. trying to flex/impress B. Trying to ingratiate myself with her C. Trying to guilt/expecting reciprocity D. Am obsessed with her and overly invested- way too much, way too soon.

But the truth is that I just actually enjoyed the idea of it almost as much as if I were doing it for myself.

How was your simping received? 😬

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Idk that it's simping because I don't pedestalise people, but my entire point was misunderstanding my intentions so A. not good (was kinda the whole thesis) and B. thank you proving my point about my intentions being misunderstood.
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Where’s your Venus


In the sky.



Jk, Venus Aqua.click to expand

Do you root for the underdog like Nights?

Also what's the rest of your placements?
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Not particularly. I'm 2/24 like Mayweather- the antithesis of "underdog". Personally, I don't relate because I've never felt like anyone else was above me. I don't mean that narcissistically, but it seems like "underdog" conceptually assumes a hierarchy at which the underdog is at the bottom. I don't relate to that mode of thinking.



Sag rising (best)

Scorpio moon (worst)

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Aqua Mars/Venus
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Posted by Whynn
I'm happy that you have a new gf, btw. I hope you guys will have a blast in love with each other 🥰

Keep us posted. I believe you guys should have it very well since you guys share the same generous and sweet traits.


Thanks, but to clarify: I don't have a new gf. It's just a woman I'm going on dates with.

I have no idea where this goes. I'm just enjoying the moment.
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The Pisces Identity. The Pisces Ultimatum.


Oh my lewd, you don't know how many times I received an ultimatum from a pisces and to me.. have to say sorry for it, ultimatum is useless imo. It's either you do it or you don't. Using ultimatum is more like emotional or psychological power play and I happen not to enjoy that.

Pisces has a very strong identity actually I would love to see more of the goofy and comical streak of them. They can be funny af. Other times they can be real cold and it's pretty well fitting with scorpio.

Idk maybe I'm talking like this because I have a little hung up with a pisces man (who is basically my partner, husband, or father of my sons .. whatever name I call it based on my mood about him lol)

There is still a lot about pisces to dive or dice in 😅
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I'm happy that you have a new gf, btw. I hope you guys will have a blast in love with each other 🥰

Keep us posted. I believe you guys should have it very well since you guys share the same generous and sweet traits.

Thanks, but to clarify: I don't have a new gf. It's just a woman I'm going on dates with.

I have no idea where this goes. I'm just enjoying the moment.
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So what does a girlfriend's description like?

What is this about U.S dating culture can be real confusing.. someone I'm seeing... Someone I'm dating... Girlfriend.. open relationship.. so many layers... 🤷🏽‍♀️ Confusing

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Where’s your Venus

In the sky.



Jk, Venus Aqua.click to expand


Do you root for the underdog like Nights?

Also what's the rest of your placements?click to expand

Not particularly. I'm 2/24 like Mayweather- the antithesis of "underdog". Personally, I don't relate because I've never felt like anyone else was above me. I don't mean that narcissistically, but it seems like "underdog" conceptually assumes a hierarchy at which the underdog is at the bottom. I don't relate to that mode of thinking.



Sag rising (best)

Scorpio moon (worst)

Pisces merc

Aqua Mars/Venus
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No, it doesn't assume a hierarchy, but not saying people can't view it that way. The concept for underdog references a two party comparison, with the one party (the underdog) being more disadvantaged than the other (the comparison), but ultimately succeed at overcoming such disadvantage. The success part of the story doesn't even need to reference anyone else except the underdog themselves (two points in time comparison of the same person).

Examples:

- You could have someone that wants to play basketball but shorter than industry average height. But they found a way around that would allow them to land more basketball shots.

- You could have someone who started off struggling in life (compared to someone who isn't), but works really hard and now can donate time and money to society because they now have more money than they started with.
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I'm happy that you have a new gf, btw. I hope you guys will have a blast in love with each other 🥰

Keep us posted. I believe you guys should have it very well since you guys share the same generous and sweet traits.


Thanks, but to clarify: I don't have a new gf. It's just a woman I'm going on dates with.

I have no idea where this goes. I'm just enjoying the moment.click to expand

So what does a girlfriend's description like?

What is this about U.S dating culture can be real confusing.. someone I'm seeing... Someone I'm dating... Girlfriend.. open relationship.. so many layers... 🤷🏽‍♀️ Confusing

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Yeah, you're not wrong. "Dating" can be an exclusive committed relationship, or just someone you're talking to romantically, and going on dates with. But not exclusive committed status. I'm just referring to the latter in my current situation. I have someone that I text most days, go on dates with. But we're not devoted to each other or in love. We haven't known each other that long and I don't know if we're compatible or not yet.

Open relationships are just people with anxious attachment style . Totally different concept.
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Where’s your Venus


In the sky.



Jk, Venus Aqua.click to expand

Do you root for the underdog like Nights?

Also what's the rest of your placements?click to expand


Not particularly. I'm 2/24 like Mayweather- the antithesis of "underdog". Personally, I don't relate because I've never felt like anyone else was above me. I don't mean that narcissistically, but it seems like "underdog" conceptually assumes a hierarchy at which the underdog is at the bottom. I don't relate to that mode of thinking.



Sag rising (best)

Scorpio moon (worst)

Pisces merc

Aqua Mars/Venusclick to expand

No, it doesn't assume a hierarchy, but not saying people can't view it that way. The concept for underdog references a two party comparison, with the one party (the underdog) being more disadvantaged than the other (the comparison), but ultimately succeed at overcoming such disadvantage. The success part of the story doesn't even need to reference anyone else except the underdog themselves (two points in time comparison of the same person).

Examples:

- You could have someone that wants to play basketball but shorter than industry average height. But they found a way around that would allow them to land more basketball shots.

- You could have someone who started off struggling in life (compared to someone who isn't), but works really hard and now can donate time and money to society because they now have more money than they started with.
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Yeah, I understand what you're saying. And I understand why people psychologically find these stories compelling. They're inspirational. They give people hope.

I guess though, from my perspective, "underdog" could only ever be a temporary, transitional state. Because the basketball player you're describing is Steph Curry, and no one is calling him the underdog. And the person able to donate their time and money is also not an underdog. Maybe they were an underdog, but once they achieved greatness, they were no longer the underdog. I'm more impressed with the greatness than the underdog aspect of it.

I think that most "underdog" or rags to riches tales are tacked on to otherwise banal stories in order to create a moral narrative that I don't think is necessary in true inspirational stories... true greatness speaks for itself. Like on game shows; everyone has to have some sob story to come across as compelling or special and most of the stories are disingenuous or simply fabricated. A lot of people make being disadvantaged their identity, and while I obviously understand that people all have different dis/advantages in life, I don't think it's a virtue to be disadvantaged. I've had serious struggles in my life but I don't identify them as "me", I identify my actions as "me" and if I have to bring up my struggles to make my actions interesting to people, or palatable... then I guess my actions aren't that interesting or palatable on their own. If someone calls me successful, that's a compliment. If they say I'm successful "despite your struggles" that's a backhanded compliment.

But that's just how I relate to the world.
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Case-in-point: I was talking to a woman who I've only known for a few days, and she wanted to watch Stranger Things with me. She mentions that she wants to upgrade her home audio, but she doesn't know what to do. To her: casual conversation. To me: an opportunity for me for one of my favorite pasttimes: buying technology, setting up technology, enjoying technology. And yes, in my mind: she's a nice person, so I see no issue with doing something nice for her. So why not?

So I immediately offer to buy her some speakers and set them up for her. Am I aware that shelling out a few hundred dollars on Sonos equipment for someone I've known less than a week is borderline socially unacceptable? Sure, because, in most instances it means that I am either A. trying to flex/impress B. Trying to ingratiate myself with her C. Trying to guilt/expecting reciprocity D. Am obsessed with her and overly invested- way too much, way too soon.

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Case-in-point: I was talking to a woman who I've only known for a few days, and she wanted to watch Stranger Things with me. She mentions that she wants to upgrade her home audio, but she doesn't know what to do. To her: casual conversation. To me: an opportunity for me for one of my favorite pasttimes: buying technology, setting up technology, enjoying technology. And yes, in my mind: she's a nice person, so I see no issue with doing something nice for her. So why not?

So I immediately offer to buy her some speakers and set them up for her. Am I aware that shelling out a few hundred dollars on Sonos equipment for someone I've known less than a week is borderline socially unacceptable? Sure, because, in most instances it means that I am either A. trying to flex/impress B. Trying to ingratiate myself with her C. Trying to guilt/expecting reciprocity D. Am obsessed with her and overly invested- way too much, way too soon.
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Lol

But in all seriousness, a sucker is someone who gets... suckered. I understand this is a foreign language to non-Pisceans, but um... I didn't get ripped off because I didn't want anything in return. That wasn't the point. I don't do nice things for people because I want anything. I do it because I enjoy the action itself.

That's the whole point I'm making. Y'all attach shit to kindness and suspect others of the same.

Sue me for understanding the true meaning of Christmas 🤪
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Where’s your Venus

In the sky.



Jk, Venus Aqua.click to expand


Do you root for the underdog like Nights?

Also what's the rest of your placements?click to expand

Not particularly. I'm 2/24 like Mayweather- the antithesis of "underdog". Personally, I don't relate because I've never felt like anyone else was above me. I don't mean that narcissistically, but it seems like "underdog" conceptually assumes a hierarchy at which the underdog is at the bottom. I don't relate to that mode of thinking.



Sag rising (best)

Scorpio moon (worst)

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No, it doesn't assume a hierarchy, but not saying people can't view it that way. The concept for underdog references a two party comparison, with the one party (the underdog) being more disadvantaged than the other (the comparison), but ultimately succeed at overcoming such disadvantage. The success part of the story doesn't even need to reference anyone else except the underdog themselves (two points in time comparison of the same person).

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- You could have someone that wants to play basketball but shorter than industry average height. But they found a way around that would allow them to land more basketball shots.

- You could have someone who started off struggling in life (compared to someone who isn't), but works really hard and now can donate time and money to society because they now have more money than they started with. click to expand

Yeah, I understand what you're saying. And I understand why people psychologically find these stories compelling. They're inspirational. They give people hope.

I guess though, from my perspective, "underdog" could only ever be a temporary, transitional state. Because the basketball player you're describing is Steph Curry, and no one is calling him the underdog. And the person able to donate their time and money is also not an underdog. Maybe they were an underdog, but once they achieved greatness, they were no longer the underdog. I'm more impressed with the greatness than the underdog aspect of it.

I think that most "underdog" or rags to riches tales are tacked on to otherwise banal stories in order to create a moral narrative that I don't think is necessary in true inspirational stories... true greatness speaks for itself. Like on game shows; everyone has to have some sob story to come across as compelling or special and most of the stories are disingenuous or simply fabricated. A lot of people make being disadvantaged their identity, and while I obviously understand that people all have different dis/advantages in life, I don't think it's a virtue to be disadvantaged. I've had serious struggles in my life but I don't identify them as "me", I identify my actions as "me" and if I have to bring up my struggles to make my actions interesting to people, or palatable... then I guess my actions aren't that interesting or palatable on their own. If someone calls me successful, that's a compliment. If they say I'm successful "despite your struggles" that's a backhanded compliment.

But that's just how I relate to the world.
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I personally don't know anyone who sees being disadvantaged as a virtue. So I don't relate to anyone who does. If anything, I see more of people who sees being disadvantaged as being given bad circumstances and doing everything they can to try to change them.

Human behaviours are sequences of cause and effect. If you didn't have the struggles you did, you wouldn't have necessarily made the same choices in action, the very action that you identify with and defines your success. People see it when they see your backstory, not as a tale to prop up a boring story, but as the extent of what you had to do in order to succeed.
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Posted by SadHatter
YOU'RE A GOTDAMNED HERO!!!

You bought speakers for a girl youre dating, a mating ritual hardwired into your DNA to procreate and bring pleasures of the body. But you did it with no ulterior motives? Conscious or subconscious?!?!

One day they tell tales and erect statues of your noble deeds.


I've bought shit like that for male friends too lol

Is that mating ritual hardwired into me?

And I didn't say I had no ulterior motives, I said that I didn't want anything in return. I bought her shit that I wanted to buy myself but couldn't justify it. I enjoyed the act of buying ajd installing the equipment. That was my motive. I wanted to do something, and she provided me an opportunity.

I bought a bunch of network equiment for my male friend because I was bored and wanted to build a network and he needed it done but I was stuck on my rental's internet which capped at 150Mbps, so... there was no point to upgrading my LAN equipment.

Here's an example that I suppose most men would understand, but maybe not online?

If your friend was building a deck, would you not help them for the simple joy of building a deck? Same motivation.
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Posted by SadHatter
YOU'RE A GOTDAMNED HERO!!!

You bought speakers for a girl youre dating, a mating ritual hardwired into your DNA to procreate and bring pleasures of the body. But you did it with no ulterior motives? Conscious or subconscious?!?!

One day they tell tales and erect statues of your noble deeds.

I've bought shit like that for male friends too lol

Is that mating ritual hardwired into me?

And I didn't say I had no ulterior motives, I said that I didn't want anything in return. I bought her shit that I wanted to buy myself but couldn't justify it. I enjoyed the act of buying ajd installing the equipment. That was my motive. I wanted to do something, and she provided me an opportunity.

I bought a bunch of network equiment for my male friend because I was bored and wanted to build a network and he needed it done but I was stuck on my rental's internet which capped at 150Mbps, so... there was no point to upgrading my LAN equipment.

Here's an example that I suppose most men would understand, but maybe not online?

If your friend was building a deck, would you not help them for the simple joy of building a deck? Same motivation.
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For me its not about how much you spent, its the time youve known them and the expectations attached.

How long have you been dating her before you bought the speakers?



How long were you friends before you bought the speakers?



Would you buy speakers for an ex if they mentioned they wanted them?

If you were to go to her house unannounced and Tyrone answers the door butt naked with her laying on the couch behind him... you going to tell them to enjoy the sound system and walk away? You going to regret it? You going to rip the wires out and storm off?



I help complete strangers all the time. I was a career public servant. Ive changed the flat tire for a guy who a girlfriend in high-school cheated with. He was in the middle of nowhere when I came across him.. he was terrified. I pulled off his wheel and drove it 15 miles to be patched, and came back and put it on for him. I never said a word. There is absolutely nothing inwanted from him.. what i got was an exercise in self control. I just like being a good human. Like you said, it makes me feel good, amd in control of my environment. I like using my strength and skills to help people. But I know it helps them and boosts my ego. Im fully aware. But it's also a positive. I just dont see it as virtuous or something to brag about.

Ive hung underneath semis driving backwards down the interstate to beat the pin back in place for the adjustable trailer dollies (wheels) that had came out and caused the trailer to drive sideways..

Ive paid thousands of dollars to give a woman who lost her husband to PSTD caused by war, a home.

I dont say anything, i dont add it to my resume. Like you i have skills and strengths in these departments, amd I genuinely like to help people. But, I do expect they will appreciate it, I will get pissed at the first sign of ungratefulness. And like I said, i know im getting something from it - it strokes my ego showcasing my skills.

Im not saying you didnt do a nice deed.. im just saying there are reciprocal expectations of some sort, maybe not the traditional 1 :1, and maybe not conscious. Maybe youre seeking her admiration? Maybe its something else. If you continue to give because you wnat to, without expectation, but she doesnt return the favor, or do anything for you, would you continue for her? Or would you stop?

I do think doing things for a woman youre dating without sexual expectations is good.