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i've had 2 mini rebellions against them before

they allow me more freedom now

coz they have no choice

i'll break away if they suffocate me still

i've cut them off for half a year in my late teens

had enough of their manipulative crap

i don't like confrontations and

i'm infatilized when i dare voice my opinion

i came back and they loosened up


I've done the same. But, I'm naturally independent and rebellious. I always wind up saving them... that's why I work so hard.

She was in the hospital dying. The world was whipping her ass. She didn't realize she was an old lady and this day would come. But, I did, felt sorry for her blind narcissism, and prepared for the worse... burial expenses... not wanting family shame.


my mother's pretty narc-y and getting old

you wouldn't be able to tell by looking at her

coz she is much older than she looks

but no matter how terrible she gets,

i don't think i could just leave her..


My mom was the quintessential exotic Libra. Very dark skinned with long beautiful black perfect curly hair... rare combo. She passed the hair down to me and my daughter.

She is also a hedon and destroyed her health... severe narc.


my mom is a taurus

she spends too much money on unnecessary crap

and cooks fatty food that i keep telling her to stop eating

now she has trouble walking but she can still walk

but it just pains her to do so

she's not overweight but that's coz we're asian lol

she nags me all the time and is too pessimistic

also cares too much about the economic status of guys i date

and who even cares if he's a doctor or not?

she's really annoying sometimes

i love her but she has lots of traits i find gross

My moms a Taurus too. Same with the status obsession. She’s obsessed with my husband because he’s everything she wanted in a man. She doesn’t understand that he hates her, and blames me when he’s rude to her.


of course she likes him coz he's a libra (venusians)

my mother looks down on my pisces boyfriend

all coz he's not a doctor or a lawyer or an engineer

she doesn't show this or tell him

and i make sure that he will never know this

i've always protected him from my family

they don't like him coz he's "just some guy who cooks"

but she eats everything he makes anyway, hypocrite

i don't believe in choosing people for status

what if i can't stand the person?

the hell would crying in BMWs make me feel better for?

there were men who've courted me

who had tons of money.. but i didn't care about that

she'd always resented me for not choosing

what SHE would've chosen

Yup. Lol crying in BMWs. Does he cook for a living? That’s cool. My mom is such a kiss ass to anyone with status. When we go out to eat she and her boyfriend for some reason have to know the restaurant owner or meet them. They wanted to go to a pizza place with my husband and I realized it was because they wanted the owner to know they have a white dude in their family. They kept showing him off. So weird.


What ethnicity are you? And why would you allow your husband to be rude to the woman who gave birth to you?

I don't care if my mother is a serial killer, my partner will need to be respectful at all times.
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Um well she was a major cunt to my father so she earned it. I’m not listening to that Serena Williams “i’m a mother so be good to me” bull. And honestly, I did give him a hard time about it in private, but she doesn’t even care anyway. Like I said, she’s obsessed with his status so he could be a wife beater and she would love him.
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Everything can't be a narc statement, people have weird control issues, are selfish

ya'll just going nuts with the word narc


We're leaving out gory details on purpose. Well, I am. But, I'll get to it. My mom is a clinical narc diagnosed. The rest of the moms mentioned may be "narcissistic."
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i've had 2 mini rebellions against them before

they allow me more freedom now

coz they have no choice

i'll break away if they suffocate me still

i've cut them off for half a year in my late teens

had enough of their manipulative crap

i don't like confrontations and

i'm infatilized when i dare voice my opinion

i came back and they loosened up


I've done the same. But, I'm naturally independent and rebellious. I always wind up saving them... that's why I work so hard.

She was in the hospital dying. The world was whipping her ass. She didn't realize she was an old lady and this day would come. But, I did, felt sorry for her blind narcissism, and prepared for the worse... burial expenses... not wanting family shame.


my mother's pretty narc-y and getting old

you wouldn't be able to tell by looking at her

coz she is much older than she looks

but no matter how terrible she gets,

i don't think i could just leave her..


My mom was the quintessential exotic Libra. Very dark skinned with long beautiful black perfect curly hair... rare combo. She passed the hair down to me and my daughter.

She is also a hedon and destroyed her health... severe narc.


my mom is a taurus

she spends too much money on unnecessary crap

and cooks fatty food that i keep telling her to stop eating

now she has trouble walking but she can still walk

but it just pains her to do so

she's not overweight but that's coz we're asian lol

she nags me all the time and is too pessimistic

also cares too much about the economic status of guys i date

and who even cares if he's a doctor or not?

she's really annoying sometimes

i love her but she has lots of traits i find gross

My moms a Taurus too. Same with the status obsession. She’s obsessed with my husband because he’s everything she wanted in a man. She doesn’t understand that he hates her, and blames me when he’s rude to her.


of course she likes him coz he's a libra (venusians)

my mother looks down on my pisces boyfriend

all coz he's not a doctor or a lawyer or an engineer

she doesn't show this or tell him

and i make sure that he will never know this

i've always protected him from my family

they don't like him coz he's "just some guy who cooks"

but she eats everything he makes anyway, hypocrite

i don't believe in choosing people for status

what if i can't stand the person?

the hell would crying in BMWs make me feel better for?

there were men who've courted me

who had tons of money.. but i didn't care about that

she'd always resented me for not choosing

what SHE would've chosen


omgosh you guys... my mother is Taurus rising...and she has the SAME characteristics as your mothers!!!

where status, men who have tons of money/ professionals are important. lol

as for the men in our lives (for her daughters) it was the libra man (My aries sister's husband) that she did not approve at first, he has scorpio rising, pisces moon) but then saw that it is not the money and professional status but how he is a decent good man who is supportive and kind and good father and husband. it's hard for earthy peeps to see beyond that at first...but they eventually will. their first initial thought is... Is he going to provide well for my daughter?? or make her starve? what if she has to scrape and suffer??




right?

like what if he beats me or just a total dbag?

the hell would it matter if he's a doctor?

some asian women are super materialistic asf

made even worse that she's a taurus

even some female friends would brag about

guys they're dating and what stuff they give

and i look down on these women

i always felt i make better choices in life

i'd always brag about something he said or did

like i would try to overpower them when we get together

by incessantly talking about how awesome and perfect my boyfriend is

(and he really is most of the time)

and it's so sad how some of these guys treat them badly or cheat on them

but they can't just leave coz they've "grown accustomed to the life style "

pathetic.


i could be eating swamp cabbages right now

and STILL look down on these bishes


i think maybe (just a guess) they thinking ...well at least she has that. because i have all the riches and wealth and she doesn't.. something has to COMPENSATE. "Poor thing has to eat swamp cabbages and here i am eating my cavier and champagne for brunch"< lol

it's a way to making them feel better about themselves too. you have to also feel sad about their situation as well.

i dont know ... ...i honestly believe they may be jealous of your comfort and love, and them having good comfortable life while the husband is cheating, or treating badly is just, a "bump" on the road.

plus we dont know, they could be HAPPY that their husbands are not bothering them and they could be left alone to their luxury.




when you put it like that,

i guess they might be compensating too

just as much as i am

i always feel myself getting defensive

when i hear some underlying ridicule

against my boyfriend

but if that kind of life style is their happiness,

then whatever god bless them


i try not to mention anything IMPERFECT to my mother about my husband or it's a "crack" in the system LOL

well after being with my husband for many years, she found it.... that he is a penny pincher and is miserly with money lmao ;p

i would think she would appreciate that though.

she had already found "cracks" in the system about my sister's men already lmao. it was only a matter of time.

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anyway, it is similar to what your situation is, how mothers find "cracks" ..in the system ..in this case your man.... because it's not what she would want for herself.

well poo-pooh... it's YOUR choice not hers ;p



Edit ---- oh and i dont say, My husband is penny pincher... no way.

it's how i just say, certain things and she figures it out (she has scorpio mercury) LOL
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why is it necessary to them to "find cracks" ... geez - I say just be happy you are happy and healthy !!!
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Posted by Black-Mamba

Everything can't be a narc statement, people have weird control issues, are selfish

ya'll just going nuts with the word narc


IKR. What? Your mom wants to treat you out to a bday dinner?!

Gasp, the horror!

The monstrosity!!

So what if she pushes sushi.

Idk maybe people are more triggered and sensitive than me but I would've just gone with the sushi and ordered chicken terriaki or something. She carried me in her womb for 9 months, I'd indulge her a little.
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i've had 2 mini rebellions against them before

they allow me more freedom now

coz they have no choice

i'll break away if they suffocate me still

i've cut them off for half a year in my late teens

had enough of their manipulative crap

i don't like confrontations and

i'm infatilized when i dare voice my opinion

i came back and they loosened up


I've done the same. But, I'm naturally independent and rebellious. I always wind up saving them... that's why I work so hard.

She was in the hospital dying. The world was whipping her ass. She didn't realize she was an old lady and this day would come. But, I did, felt sorry for her blind narcissism, and prepared for the worse... burial expenses... not wanting family shame.


my mother's pretty narc-y and getting old

you wouldn't be able to tell by looking at her

coz she is much older than she looks

but no matter how terrible she gets,

i don't think i could just leave her..


My mom was the quintessential exotic Libra. Very dark skinned with long beautiful black perfect curly hair... rare combo. She passed the hair down to me and my daughter.

She is also a hedon and destroyed her health... severe narc.


my mom is a taurus

she spends too much money on unnecessary crap

and cooks fatty food that i keep telling her to stop eating

now she has trouble walking but she can still walk

but it just pains her to do so

she's not overweight but that's coz we're asian lol

she nags me all the time and is too pessimistic

also cares too much about the economic status of guys i date

and who even cares if he's a doctor or not?

she's really annoying sometimes

i love her but she has lots of traits i find gross

My moms a Taurus too. Same with the status obsession. She’s obsessed with my husband because he’s everything she wanted in a man. She doesn’t understand that he hates her, and blames me when he’s rude to her.


of course she likes him coz he's a libra (venusians)

my mother looks down on my pisces boyfriend

all coz he's not a doctor or a lawyer or an engineer

she doesn't show this or tell him

and i make sure that he will never know this

i've always protected him from my family

they don't like him coz he's "just some guy who cooks"

but she eats everything he makes anyway, hypocrite

i don't believe in choosing people for status

what if i can't stand the person?

the hell would crying in BMWs make me feel better for?

there were men who've courted me

who had tons of money.. but i didn't care about that

she'd always resented me for not choosing

what SHE would've chosen

Yup. Lol crying in BMWs. Does he cook for a living? That’s cool. My mom is such a kiss ass to anyone with status. When we go out to eat she and her boyfriend for some reason have to know the restaurant owner or meet them. They wanted to go to a pizza place with my husband and I realized it was because they wanted the owner to know they have a white dude in their family. They kept showing him off. So weird.


What ethnicity are you? And why would you allow your husband to be rude to the woman who gave birth to you?

I don't care if my mother is a serial killer, my partner will need to be respectful at all times.


Um well she was a major cunt to my father so she earned it. I’m not listening to that Serena Williams “i’m a mother so be good to me” bull. And honestly, I did give him a hard time about it in private, but she doesn’t even care anyway. Like I said, she’s obsessed with his status so he could be a wife beater and she would love him.


what's your dad's sign?

taurus women usually go for men they can control

basically, whipped beta cvks

that's why i think they should be with someone

who would resist that.. like a scorpio

scorpio men can only get abused by aries women srsly
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He’s a cap. Venus in Pisces. His name in Japanese means “to climb” so someone in his family was into astrology, maybe. Lol he resisted. They fought all the time and he would disappear when she wouldn’t shut up, to avoid hurting her. He had a raging temper.
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Everything can't be a narc statement, people have weird control issues, are selfish

ya'll just going nuts with the word narc


IKR. What? Your mom wants to treat you out to a bday dinner?!

Gasp, the horror!

The monstrosity!!

So what if she pushes sushi.

Idk maybe people are more triggered and sensitive than me but I would've just gone with the sushi and ordered chicken terriaki or something. She carried me in her womb for 9 months, I'd indulge her a little.


sending a sushi emoji is weird as fuk tho
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Old people using emoji's period is weird as fuck, lets be real
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Everything can't be a narc statement, people have weird control issues, are selfish

ya'll just going nuts with the word narc


IKR. What? Your mom wants to treat you out to a bday dinner?!

Gasp, the horror!

The monstrosity!!

So what if she pushes sushi.

Idk maybe people are more triggered and sensitive than me but I would've just gone with the sushi and ordered chicken terriaki or something. She carried me in her womb for 9 months, I'd indulge her a little.


sending a sushi emoji is weird as fuk tho
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Yeah that was the thing that I was focusing on. Like she gets obsessed about things and has to express it in weird ways because she knows she’s not supposed to. When I went on a high school trip she gave me a plastic soap dish and a soap that fit into it. I was like huh, ok great. Some new soap ......? I lost the soap dish during the trip and she flipped out. Her entire day was ruined, like I insulted her soul.
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Everything can't be a narc statement, people have weird control issues, are selfish

ya'll just going nuts with the word narc


Narcissist has become a buzzword and is thrown around lightly to describe just anyone that is vain and competitive. Or just any kind of abuser. EVERYONE has some level of ''basic narcissism'', because ego.

NPD itself is a SEVERE personality disorder. Victims of narcissistic abuse experience abuse categorized with symptoms that are considered domestic abuse

NPD is a diagnosis for a pattern of behavior. The most common patterns are fake apologies and blame shifting, which I havent read ANYONE in this thread mention about their mother
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Does zero apologizing count as fake apologies?
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Everything can't be a narc statement, people have weird control issues, are selfish

ya'll just going nuts with the word narc


Narcissist has become a buzzword and is thrown around lightly to describe just anyone that is vain and competitive. Or just any kind of abuser. EVERYONE has some level of ''basic narcissism'', because ego.

NPD itself is a SEVERE personality disorder. Victims of narcissistic abuse experience abuse categorized with symptoms that are considered domestic abuse

NPD is a diagnosis for a pattern of behavior. The most common patterns are fake apologies and blame shifting, which I havent read ANYONE in this thread mention about their mother
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Oh and i’m Sorry, when I said my mom was a raging cunt to my father, that includes blame shifting, blaming him for every little problem. He spent most of his time at home taking care of me, yet she thought she could blame him for financial problems. She was out shopping and fine dining all week.

There are a lot more common behaviors. Have you heard of their gift giving behaviors? Every writer mentions it. “I bought you this, so you must do this for me.” “After everything I do for you, how can you not give me anything in return?” In reality it’s more like I don’t want to interact with you on an emotional or social level, so i’m going to buy your affection. But they don’t want you to enjoy it, so they give you things you don’t want. It’s weird that this is a thing but I have heard it over and over, read it in several books and my mother does it regularly. It’s a control mechanism, not wanting someone to actually be happy, but still feeling like they are depending on you.
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Everything can't be a narc statement, people have weird control issues, are selfish

ya'll just going nuts with the word narc


Narcissist has become a buzzword and is thrown around lightly to describe just anyone that is vain and competitive. Or just any kind of abuser. EVERYONE has some level of ''basic narcissism'', because ego.

NPD itself is a SEVERE personality disorder. Victims of narcissistic abuse experience abuse categorized with symptoms that are considered domestic abuse

NPD is a diagnosis for a pattern of behavior. The most common patterns are fake apologies and blame shifting, which I havent read ANYONE in this thread mention about their mother

Does zero apologizing count as fake apologies?


If you confront them with their mistakes and they NEVER hold themselves accountable or accept responsibility for their actions or words, not even with time, then yes
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Everything can't be a narc statement, people have weird control issues, are selfish

ya'll just going nuts with the word narc


IKR. What? Your mom wants to treat you out to a bday dinner?!

Gasp, the horror!

The monstrosity!!

So what if she pushes sushi.

Idk maybe people are more triggered and sensitive than me but I would've just gone with the sushi and ordered chicken terriaki or something. She carried me in her womb for 9 months, I'd indulge her a little.


sending a sushi emoji is weird as fuk tho


Old people using emoji's period is weird as fuck, lets be real


lmfao my grandma uses emojis
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My mom used the eggplant one the other day and I cringed so hard. She wasn't referring to peen either.
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Everything can't be a narc statement, people have weird control issues, are selfish

ya'll just going nuts with the word narc


Narcissist has become a buzzword and is thrown around lightly to describe just anyone that is vain and competitive. Or just any kind of abuser. EVERYONE has some level of ''basic narcissism'', because ego.

NPD itself is a SEVERE personality disorder. Victims of narcissistic abuse experience abuse categorized with symptoms that are considered domestic abuse

NPD is a diagnosis for a pattern of behavior. The most common patterns are fake apologies and blame shifting, which I havent read ANYONE in this thread mention about their mother

Does zero apologizing count as fake apologies?


If you confront them with their mistakes and they NEVER hold themselves accountable or accept responsibility for their actions or words, not even with time, then yes
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hahaha I gave her 37 years - was that enough ?
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Posted by Black-Mamba

Everything can't be a narc statement, people have weird control issues, are selfish

ya'll just going nuts with the word narc


Narcissist has become a buzzword and is thrown around lightly to describe just anyone that is vain and competitive. Or just any kind of abuser. EVERYONE has some level of ''basic narcissism'', because ego.

NPD itself is a SEVERE personality disorder. Victims of narcissistic abuse experience abuse categorized with symptoms that are considered domestic abuse

NPD is a diagnosis for a pattern of behavior. The most common patterns are fake apologies and blame shifting, which I havent read ANYONE in this thread mention about their mother

Does zero apologizing count as fake apologies?


If you confront them with their mistakes and they NEVER hold themselves accountable or accept responsibility for their actions or words, not even with time, then yes

Check
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My mom sends petty texts too. She wanted to take my Libra and me for dinner for our birthdays, so they asked what we wanted so we said italian. Then she was like “there’s a good sushi place, let’s think about it.” The day of comes up and Libra is saying he has a bad stomach so he prefers Italian. So we have dinner, and after we go home she sends a goodnight text with a sushi emoji.

Weirdo


One time I blocked her on my birthday. She texted me... "Happy Birthday, I had another stroke on your birthday." I should find that text because it read worse. This is what I wake up to 1st thing on my birthday. Her strokes are due to blind, wild, narc choices and hedonism to the extreme. What that got to do with my B-day?
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Is it always a coincidental to a special occasion? Eek
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i've had 2 mini rebellions against them before

they allow me more freedom now

coz they have no choice

i'll break away if they suffocate me still

i've cut them off for half a year in my late teens

had enough of their manipulative crap

i don't like confrontations and

i'm infatilized when i dare voice my opinion

i came back and they loosened up


I've done the same. But, I'm naturally independent and rebellious. I always wind up saving them... that's why I work so hard.

She was in the hospital dying. The world was whipping her ass. She didn't realize she was an old lady and this day would come. But, I did, felt sorry for her blind narcissism, and prepared for the worse... burial expenses... not wanting family shame.


my mother's pretty narc-y and getting old

you wouldn't be able to tell by looking at her

coz she is much older than she looks

but no matter how terrible she gets,

i don't think i could just leave her..


My mom was the quintessential exotic Libra. Very dark skinned with long beautiful black perfect curly hair... rare combo. She passed the hair down to me and my daughter.

She is also a hedon and destroyed her health... severe narc.


my mom is a taurus

she spends too much money on unnecessary crap

and cooks fatty food that i keep telling her to stop eating

now she has trouble walking but she can still walk

but it just pains her to do so

she's not overweight but that's coz we're asian lol

she nags me all the time and is too pessimistic

also cares too much about the economic status of guys i date

and who even cares if he's a doctor or not?

she's really annoying sometimes

i love her but she has lots of traits i find gross


My mom, also Venus-ruled Libra, spends too much money on unnecessary crap... will cry, beg, borrow, steal....(anti-social personality trait as well).

And, can't cook...cooks fatty food, combines wrong flavors, make combos outta wanting to be extravagant but, when put together, is gross as hell...

She's always broke but looks like a million bucks... she decorates roccoco style or english with every corner ordained in fluffury on top of fluffury. As a kid, I kinda hated it and I was hated on... because of her decadent extravagance.

So, I was spartan and functional with my decor. She moves in with me and starts to jam pack her room. I told her no curtains, blinds are enough. She starts crying at the check-out stand. I was grossed out. And, let her have her curtains.

All thise years of dark english decor lead to vitamin difficiences related to lack of sunlight. She admitted it but, her house is still dark.
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Yeah I relate. My friends in college were shocked when they met my mom.. they said she looked like a Japanese Lady Gaga. In a bad way. That extravagance is why so many children of narcissists have body insecurities and try to hide into themselves. The parent wants to be the center of attention everywhere and you just want to hide and look normal.
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Posted by Black-Mamba

Everything can't be a narc statement, people have weird control issues, are selfish

ya'll just going nuts with the word narc


Narcissist has become a buzzword and is thrown around lightly to describe just anyone that is vain and competitive. Or just any kind of abuser. EVERYONE has some level of ''basic narcissism'', because ego.

NPD itself is a SEVERE personality disorder. Victims of narcissistic abuse experience abuse categorized with symptoms that are considered domestic abuse

NPD is a diagnosis for a pattern of behavior. The most common patterns are fake apologies and blame shifting, which I havent read ANYONE in this thread mention about their mother

Does zero apologizing count as fake apologies?


If you confront them with their mistakes and they NEVER hold themselves accountable or accept responsibility for their actions or words, not even with time, then yes

Check


A diagnosis is not a simple checklist. It takes a full on case study that also takes into account the way YOU confront her. Your communication method seems to be filled with rage, theres a lot of emotional cornering going on

Then theres also a few personality types that feel like they are dealing with a narcissist when in fact they arent, they have a victim complex or are antagonizers. Not saying you are or have, just saying diagnosing a disorder is far more complex
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Yeah and I’m not in a therapist’s chair so I’m not talking as if I want one. And you shouldn’t be trying to diagnose people based on what they say on a forum. You don’t know my communication style with my mom, and you don’t know hers so you shouldn’t be saying anything really. making the assumption people know less than you gets you nowhere.
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People are venting about typical shit their parents have done. They might not fit into a category That’s simply it. We aren’t here for you to rub your nose in and tell us if you think it fits into a diagnosis. Especially since it takes a case study as you say. So what is your point of being here? First you say, “you guys haven’t even mentioned this item on the list” and then you say “well it’s not a simple checklist”. It’s too obvious you want act like you know everything.
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Posted by Black-Mamba

Everything can't be a narc statement, people have weird control issues, are selfish

ya'll just going nuts with the word narc


Narcissist has become a buzzword and is thrown around lightly to describe just anyone that is vain and competitive. Or just any kind of abuser. EVERYONE has some level of ''basic narcissism'', because ego.

NPD itself is a SEVERE personality disorder. Victims of narcissistic abuse experience abuse categorized with symptoms that are considered domestic abuse

NPD is a diagnosis for a pattern of behavior. The most common patterns are fake apologies and blame shifting, which I havent read ANYONE in this thread mention about their mother

Does zero apologizing count as fake apologies?


If you confront them with their mistakes and they NEVER hold themselves accountable or accept responsibility for their actions or words, not even with time, then yes

Check


A diagnosis is not a simple checklist. It takes a full on case study that also takes into account the way YOU confront her. Your communication method seems to be filled with rage, theres a lot of emotional cornering going on

Then theres also a few personality types that feel like they are dealing with a narcissist when in fact they arent, they have a victim complex or are antagonizers. Not saying you are or have, just saying diagnosing a disorder is far more complex

Yeah and I’m not in a therapist’s chair so I’m not talking as if I want one. And you shouldn’t be trying to diagnose people based on what they say on a forum. You don’t know my communication style with my mom, and you don’t know hers so you shouldn’t be saying anything really.


YOU brought this topic on to a forum so you only want opinions where people pity you and bash your mother? And please point out where I have diagnosed you. Dont blame me for pointing out the communication style you have CONSISTENTLY showed on the boards
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Ok Dr Phil. I applaud you for bestowing your knowledge on us. Bye!
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Posted by halalbae

Im starting to think your mother is the one dealing with a narcissistic daughter. Like many narcs, you think YOU can do no wrong, your standpoint isnt allowed to be challenged you and lash out at the people you cant manipulate pity from

I could say the same to you, you can’t handle me telling you to fuck off. What the eff did I say to you that pissed u off. If I remember correctly , I was responding to you making a silly assertion that no Gemini moons that u knew had problems with their moms, and so somehow that should mean i don’t. Logically how does that work out? Think about it. It’s not a bad thing to tell you, you are wrong when you are. And it’s not me lashing out. I was trying to simply tell you, you sound ignorant.
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Nah you just expect to be recognized for superior intelligence, thats why you get so upset when people have an opposing opinion to yours. Very strong narc trait that one

No, but i do get disappointed by people who reveal themselves to be lacking in that department. That is a flaw I will admit. Don’t you think it’s a bit narc-y of you to assume no one here knows the things you know? Who appointed you to to judge us? We were all helping each other vent until you came along and shut everyone up. Nice job.
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Posted by halalbae

Im starting to think your mother is the one dealing with a narcissistic daughter. Like many narcs, you think YOU can do no wrong, your standpoint isnt allowed to be challenged you and lash out at the people you cant manipulate pity from


Imagine claiming that your mom is a narcissist because:

1) She showed your husband a photo of you in a bikini as a teen

2) She wanted to introduce you and your husband to the owners of a pizza buffet

3) She got mad at your for losing a soap dish as a child

4) She wanted to take you out for sushi instead of italian for dinner

5) You saw a reddit thread and googled some names of narcissism self-help books

And then getting mad when every person doesn't validate your idiocy. Oh and they better not dare point this out to you because you are the only person who is always ever right and everyone else is wrong. You are a bonafide genius and everyone else on a forum (that you claim to hate, but always posting on), are just a bunch of "retards".

This is well past sad and beyond pathetic.
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We were venting about random things our moms did... I wasn’t giving those examples for a diagnosis.

You know what’s sad? Being butthurt about a month ago. I don’t even care that you exist. You make up arguements that you know are illogical but you do it anyway out of laziness, and because you know everyone else will fall for it.
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Posted by halalbae

Im starting to think your mother is the one dealing with a narcissistic daughter. Like many narcs, you think YOU can do no wrong, your standpoint isnt allowed to be challenged you and lash out at the people you cant manipulate pity from


Imagine claiming that your mom is a narcissist because:

1) She showed your husband a photo of you in a bikini as a teen

2) She wanted to introduce you and your husband to the owners of a pizza buffet

3) She got mad at your for losing a soap dish as a child

4) She wanted to take you out for sushi instead of italian for dinner

5) You saw a reddit thread and googled some names of narcissism self-help books

And then getting mad when every person doesn't validate your idiocy. Oh and they better not dare point this out to you because you are the only person who is always ever right and everyone else is wrong. You are a bonafide genius and everyone else on a forum (that you claim to hate, but always posting on), are just a bunch of "retards".

This is well past sad and beyond pathetic.
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If I had one week or however long u are with your boyfriend, out of the whole year to spend with a guy, I wouldn’t waste it on someone on a forum who argued with u a month ago. Do U want an apology? Yes I overreacted and was a douche to you.



I’m still standing my ground about this thread though, because in terms of how dxp tends to work, I was just defending myself against blatant assumptions.
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Posted by nanobot

Posted by BlueVelvet

Posted by nanobot

Posted by halalbae

Im starting to think your mother is the one dealing with a narcissistic daughter. Like many narcs, you think YOU can do no wrong, your standpoint isnt allowed to be challenged you and lash out at the people you cant manipulate pity from


Imagine claiming that your mom is a narcissist because:

1) She showed your husband a photo of you in a bikini as a teen

2) She wanted to introduce you and your husband to the owners of a pizza buffet

3) She got mad at your for losing a soap dish as a child

4) She wanted to take you out for sushi instead of italian for dinner

5) You saw a reddit thread and googled some names of narcissism self-help books

And then getting mad when every person doesn't validate your idiocy. Oh and they better not dare point this out to you because you are the only person who is always ever right and everyone else is wrong. You are a bonafide genius and everyone else on a forum (that you claim to hate, but always posting on), are just a bunch of "retards".

This is well past sad and beyond pathetic.

We were venting about random things our moms did... I wasn’t giving those examples for a diagnosis.

You know what’s sad? Being butthurt about a month ago. I don’t even care that you exist. You make up arguements that you know are illogical but you do it anyway out of laziness, and because you know everyone else will fall for it.


LOL you must not care that I exist so much, that one of the first things you did when you made a new account here was to go out of your way to follow me ?

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Posted by nanobot

Posted by BlueVelvet

Posted by nanobot

Posted by halalbae

Im starting to think your mother is the one dealing with a narcissistic daughter. Like many narcs, you think YOU can do no wrong, your standpoint isnt allowed to be challenged you and lash out at the people you cant manipulate pity from


Imagine claiming that your mom is a narcissist because:

1) She showed your husband a photo of you in a bikini as a teen

2) She wanted to introduce you and your husband to the owners of a pizza buffet

3) She got mad at your for losing a soap dish as a child

4) She wanted to take you out for sushi instead of italian for dinner

5) You saw a reddit thread and googled some names of narcissism self-help books

And then getting mad when every person doesn't validate your idiocy. Oh and they better not dare point this out to you because you are the only person who is always ever right and everyone else is wrong. You are a bonafide genius and everyone else on a forum (that you claim to hate, but always posting on), are just a bunch of "retards".

This is well past sad and beyond pathetic.

If I had one week or however long u are with your boyfriend, out of the whole year to spend with a guy, I wouldn’t waste it on someone on a forum who argued with u a month ago. Do U want an apology? Yes I overreacted and was a douche to you.



I’m still standing my ground about this thread though, because in terms of how dxp tends to work, I was just defending myself against blatant assumptions.


Don't make irrelevant, disparaging remarks about my relationship when you frequently post about your own being in shambles. I personally like your "I am miserable" thread. Not that it is any of your business, at all, but he is here for 6 months and I go to Europe for 2 months over the summer.

I don't care for your apologies, means nothing to me, but I think you would understand that I have a hard time holding my tongue when you are projecting all the same shit onto halalbae, as you did with me and the whole "intelligence" thing. Why is that becoming a theme for you, and why are you so hypocritical and threatened by another woman being intelligent? You would not find her or I calling everyone who doesn't agree with us a "bunch of retards". That was highly uncalled for. You are the same thing that you claim her and I (and others) to be, worse even. I hope you have at least the self awareness to see that about yourself. Context doesn't excuse you or make you any better or more right. Just own your shit.

And yea, when you deleted your inmercury account, you made this account right after and started following me.
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Following you with the follow button or just reading your posts? Cuz I can’t help if your posts are where i am reading.. and seriously? Disparaging remarks? Reading into things much? My point was you were making a big deal about it so I don’t think u should be wasting your time on me. And as for halalbae read the posts she made and try to be objective . You tend to want to be agreeable with all the girls here just because you have history with them or something. But as an outsider who has no idea who she is, her comments sounded ignorant. Saying I wouldn’t have a problem with my mom because i’m A Gemini moon, then at the end of it, barging in on a group of people sharing about experiences and saying “none of you have mentioned these 2 things that are typical of narcissists.” Then immediately after, when I indulge her for a moment, she says “diagnosis isn’t about lists.” How on earth can you tell me you find that logical? Obviously she just wants to run her mouth. But I get it. You want to defend her because u are that type of person.
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Posted by BlueVelvet

My mom is a narcissist. she invited me and my husband for dinner today. She said she found old photos of me when I was maybe 15 on vacation in a bikini. She told me how pretty it was and pointed out details like what color the bikini was so that I would remember. She said she wanted to show my husband.

Your mom is not a narcissist. My mom is/was. She destroyed. You speak of your mom's past insecurities, issues with self-image. Narcissists think they are god.

I immediately gave her a disapproving look, and said “no, you don’t need to show him.” She insisted that it was pretty, then I said it’s inappropriate because I was underage then.

So with that information, was I overreacting? Please take note of your initial reaction to this, then read on.

This is like the baby, infant, picture of my with my legs spread before a diaper was put on. I destroyed it but, it was not inappropriate and I owned my own warped embarrassment. Think about art, paintings, sculptures, photos. No, you in a bikini as a girl is not inappropriate. Just like my infant picture, or a picture of my husband as a country boy swimming at the lake at his family farm, in his jockies. Perverts think inappropriate things at such pictures.

Now, I’ll give more details. The year those photos were taken, my mom had my dad put them up on the karaoke monitor for their family dinner party. I told her to take it down before people showed up, but people were already coming in and she didn’t care. My dad is just oblivious or thinks nothing of my feelings either, so he didn’t do anything. I didn’t know how to work the monitor because my dad had set it up.

Family pictures are often embarrassing.

Aside from that, my mother has always embarrassed me, and whether it’s on purpose or just in her blood, I don’t know. It might be cultural.

Family are prone to embarrass us. My mother does the same, so do my uncles. You gotta own your feelings.

But I do know that she was extremely self conscious of her body as a young woman because I saw photos of her from before she had me, in her bikini, and she looked really bashful, covering up her stomach. She also told me she was bulemic, said it in a way that it’s obvious she has a rudimentary understanding of what bulemia is. She would say she made herself throw up, but never mentioned bulemia. I guess where she’s from(not the USA), it’s not discussed as an eating disorder.

You are not describing a narcissist.

But I can only imagine she knows what it’s like to be self conscious and she should be able to translate those feelings into some understanding of why I wouldn’t want her to show my photos to all her friends who were obviously much older than me. My worst assumption is that she is so effed up in the head that she only knows how to deal with her own feelings by making me feel as small as her.

She is living through you. You were not as self-conscious as she was... to the point of bulimia. She is proud of you as she wishe she could be of herself. Seeing you unabashed in your bikini might be healing to her. You are not receiving her feelings. You seem to lack empathy for your mother as an individual. When we become adults, we must begin to see our parents as people. Shed that one-way child view of them as just parents.

I was initially the one who wanted to wear the bikini and it was sort of like an important step in becoming comfortable with my body, because for a long time she would pick out what I was supposed to wear and control me in such ways.

I detached myself from her a decade ago and I have no issues with self image, but it’s irritating that she’s still the same old idiot.

She rejoices in your "important step in becoming comfortable with my body." She missed that step. She didn't make it through like you. She living vicariously through you in that moment and it's healing. Alot of women have this issue. Your mothee joins millions of "idiots."

She will probably text my husband the photos at some point, but I don’t care. If she does at least I will know she’s a piece of shit. I just can’t help wondering if I’m gona turn out to be as retarded as her, embarrassing my kid without any awareness or control over it. It’s also giving me a new perspective on how/why everyone does that to other people and I’m disgusted by how I have done things like that to my own friends, even if it seemed inconsequential to me. Ughhh too much truth for dxp?

Oh yeah, and since this is the astrology and relationships forum, I’ll add that I have Chiron conjunct the ascendant. So it makes sense.

Absolutely correct! Chiron conjunct the ascendant. Do mom's chart too. It will help you see her as an individual. Maybe garner some empathy.


I wasn’t asking for confirmation that she’s a narcissist. I know she is one from other experiences. That was meant to give some background for this one instance but everyone for some reason wants to assume the best, ignoring the details. I have done the research on narcissism thanks.




You got 99 people saying the same thing and you’re the one saying something different. 🤔

All parents embarrass their kids. You’ll likely do something to embarrass yours one day. You sound pretty sensitive and quite unsympathetic. Grow up already
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There were actually a few people chatting here all day, not disagreeing with me. But what do U care. Here I’m giving u attention. Happy?
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Posted by Superman77

Posted by BlueVelvet

Posted by Superman77

Posted by BlueVelvet

Posted by VenusAquarius

Posted by BlueVelvet

My mom is a narcissist. she invited me and my husband for dinner today. She said she found old photos of me when I was maybe 15 on vacation in a bikini. She told me how pretty it was and pointed out details like what color the bikini was so that I would remember. She said she wanted to show my husband.

Your mom is not a narcissist. My mom is/was. She destroyed. You speak of your mom's past insecurities, issues with self-image. Narcissists think they are god.

I immediately gave her a disapproving look, and said “no, you don’t need to show him.” She insisted that it was pretty, then I said it’s inappropriate because I was underage then.

So with that information, was I overreacting? Please take note of your initial reaction to this, then read on.

This is like the baby, infant, picture of my with my legs spread before a diaper was put on. I destroyed it but, it was not inappropriate and I owned my own warped embarrassment. Think about art, paintings, sculptures, photos. No, you in a bikini as a girl is not inappropriate. Just like my infant picture, or a picture of my husband as a country boy swimming at the lake at his family farm, in his jockies. Perverts think inappropriate things at such pictures.

Now, I’ll give more details. The year those photos were taken, my mom had my dad put them up on the karaoke monitor for their family dinner party. I told her to take it down before people showed up, but people were already coming in and she didn’t care. My dad is just oblivious or thinks nothing of my feelings either, so he didn’t do anything. I didn’t know how to work the monitor because my dad had set it up.

Family pictures are often embarrassing.

Aside from that, my mother has always embarrassed me, and whether it’s on purpose or just in her blood, I don’t know. It might be cultural.

Family are prone to embarrass us. My mother does the same, so do my uncles. You gotta own your feelings.

But I do know that she was extremely self conscious of her body as a young woman because I saw photos of her from before she had me, in her bikini, and she looked really bashful, covering up her stomach. She also told me she was bulemic, said it in a way that it’s obvious she has a rudimentary understanding of what bulemia is. She would say she made herself throw up, but never mentioned bulemia. I guess where she’s from(not the USA), it’s not discussed as an eating disorder.

You are not describing a narcissist.

But I can only imagine she knows what it’s like to be self conscious and she should be able to translate those feelings into some understanding of why I wouldn’t want her to show my photos to all her friends who were obviously much older than me. My worst assumption is that she is so effed up in the head that she only knows how to deal with her own feelings by making me feel as small as her.

She is living through you. You were not as self-conscious as she was... to the point of bulimia. She is proud of you as she wishe she could be of herself. Seeing you unabashed in your bikini might be healing to her. You are not receiving her feelings. You seem to lack empathy for your mother as an individual. When we become adults, we must begin to see our parents as people. Shed that one-way child view of them as just parents.

I was initially the one who wanted to wear the bikini and it was sort of like an important step in becoming comfortable with my body, because for a long time she would pick out what I was supposed to wear and control me in such ways.

I detached myself from her a decade ago and I have no issues with self image, but it’s irritating that she’s still the same old idiot.

She rejoices in your "important step in becoming comfortable with my body." She missed that step. She didn't make it through like you. She living vicariously through you in that moment and it's healing. Alot of women have this issue. Your mothee joins millions of "idiots."

She will probably text my husband the photos at some point, but I don’t care. If she does at least I will know she’s a piece of shit. I just can’t help wondering if I’m gona turn out to be as retarded as her, embarrassing my kid without any awareness or control over it. It’s also giving me a new perspective on how/why everyone does that to other people and I’m disgusted by how I have done things like that to my own friends, even if it seemed inconsequential to me. Ughhh too much truth for dxp?

Oh yeah, and since this is the astrology and relationships forum, I’ll add that I have Chiron conjunct the ascendant. So it makes sense.

Absolutely correct! Chiron conjunct the ascendant. Do mom's chart too. It will help you see her as an individual. Maybe garner some empathy.


I wasn’t asking for confirmation that she’s a narcissist. I know she is one from other experiences. That was meant to give some background for this one instance but everyone for some reason wants to assume the best, ignoring the details. I have done the research on narcissism thanks.




You got 99 people saying the same thing and you’re the one saying something different. 🤔

All parents embarrass their kids. You’ll likely do something to embarrass yours one day. You sound pretty sensitive and quite unsympathetic. Grow up already

There were actually a few people chatting here all day, not disagreeing with me. But what do U care. Here I’m giving u attention. Happy?


Lol. I guess if people don’t agree with you just insulting them works? Sweet
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Oh, is this where you repeat what someone else said from the 1st page and rehash the entire thread again? Great
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Posted by Arielle83

Bikini pics are normal down here in Oz.

I don’t understand how being 15 in a bikini is inappropriate to show your husband. It’s you, not someone else.

Your mom doesn’t understand why you’re self conscious, because she’s older and prob would kill to be younger again, like you.

At least your mom isn’t Mary Shieler. That’s a mom you shouldn’t talk to.


holy crap...i never heard of that story.. we dont get many North American stories in Europe, or from Australia, unless i come here on dxp or sometimes read Yahoo news, (which is i think US owned)

http://www.belch.com/blog/2007/11/28/mary-shieler-cybersexed-brian-barrett-to-death/

O_O
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Posted by BlueVelvet

Posted by nanobot

Posted by BlueVelvet

Posted by nanobot

Posted by halalbae

Im starting to think your mother is the one dealing with a narcissistic daughter. Like many narcs, you think YOU can do no wrong, your standpoint isnt allowed to be challenged you and lash out at the people you cant manipulate pity from


Imagine claiming that your mom is a narcissist because:

1) She showed your husband a photo of you in a bikini as a teen

2) She wanted to introduce you and your husband to the owners of a pizza buffet

3) She got mad at your for losing a soap dish as a child

4) She wanted to take you out for sushi instead of italian for dinner

5) You saw a reddit thread and googled some names of narcissism self-help books

And then getting mad when every person doesn't validate your idiocy. Oh and they better not dare point this out to you because you are the only person who is always ever right and everyone else is wrong. You are a bonafide genius and everyone else on a forum (that you claim to hate, but always posting on), are just a bunch of "retards".

This is well past sad and beyond pathetic.

If I had one week or however long u are with your boyfriend, out of the whole year to spend with a guy, I wouldn’t waste it on someone on a forum who argued with u a month ago. Do U want an apology? Yes I overreacted and was a douche to you.



I’m still standing my ground about this thread though, because in terms of how dxp tends to work, I was just defending myself against blatant assumptions.


Don't make irrelevant, disparaging remarks about my relationship when you frequently post about your own being in shambles. I personally like your "I am miserable" thread. Not that it is any of your business, at all, but he is here for 6 months and I go to Europe for 2 months over the summer.

I don't care for your apologies, means nothing to me, but I think you would understand that I have a hard time holding my tongue when you are projecting all the same shit onto halalbae, as you did with me and the whole "intelligence" thing. Why is that becoming a theme for you, and why are you so hypocritical and threatened by another woman being intelligent? You would not find her or I calling everyone who doesn't agree with us a "bunch of retards". That was highly uncalled for. You are the same thing that you claim her and I (and others) to be, worse even. I hope you have at least the self awareness to see that about yourself. Context doesn't excuse you or make you any better or more right. Just own your shit.

And yea, when you deleted your inmercury account, you made this account right after and started following me.

Following you with the follow button or just reading your posts? Cuz I can’t help if your posts are where i am reading.. and seriously? Disparaging remarks? Reading into things much? My point was you were making a big deal about it so I don’t think u should be wasting your time on me. And as for halalbae read the posts she made and try to be objective . You tend to want to be agreeable with all the girls here just because you have history with them or something. But as an outsider who has no idea who she is, her comments sounded ignorant. Saying I wouldn’t have a problem with my mom because i’m A Gemini moon, then at the end of it, barging in on a group of people sharing about experiences and saying “none of you have mentioned these 2 things that are typical of narcissists.” Then immediately after, when I indulge her for a moment, she says “diagnosis isn’t about lists.” How on earth can you tell me you find that logical? Obviously she just wants to run her mouth. But I get it. You want to defend her because u are that type of person.


Well your observations are wrong. I don't make myself agreeable to anyone here, and I have gotten into arguments with many of the women (and men) here at one point. I've been called cold, tactless, etc etc. So you'll have to elaborate on the "u are that type of person" statement. I don't mince my words to spare others' feelings, never have, never will.

Halalbae was making an observation on her own patients with that statement, that is how I took it.

When I asked you why you followed me, a person you have claimed to despise, I'm directly referring to this that found its way to my notifications:

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That was a mistake then. I probably unfollowed you immediately.
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Posted by BlueVelvet

My mom is a narcissist. she invited me and my husband for dinner today. She said she found old photos of me when I was maybe 15 on vacation in a bikini. She told me how pretty it was and pointed out details like what color the bikini was so that I would remember. She said she wanted to show my husband.

I immediately gave her a disapproving look, and said “no, you don’t need to show him.” She insisted that it was pretty, then I said it’s inappropriate because I was underage then.

So with that information, was I overreacting? Please take note of your initial reaction to this, then read on.

Now, I’ll give more details. The year those photos were taken, my mom had my dad put them up on the karaoke monitor for their family dinner party. I told her to take it down before people showed up, but people were already coming in and she didn’t care. My dad is just oblivious or thinks nothing of my feelings either, so he didn’t do anything. I didn’t know how to work the monitor because my dad had set it up.

Aside from that, my mother has always embarrassed me, and whether it’s on purpose or just in her blood, I don’t know. It might be cultural. But I do know that she was extremely self conscious of her body as a young woman because I saw photos of her from before she had me, in her bikini, and she looked really bashful, covering up her stomach. She also told me she was bulemic, said it in a way that it’s obvious she has a rudimentary understanding of what bulemia is. She would say she made herself throw up, but never mentioned bulemia. I guess where she’s from(not the USA), it’s not discussed as an eating disorder. But I can only imagine she knows what it’s like to be self conscious and she should be able to translate those feelings into some understanding of why I wouldn’t want her to show my photos to all her friends who were obviously much older than me. My worst assumption is that she is so effed up in the head that she only knows how to deal with her own feelings by making me feel as small as her. I was initially the one who wanted to wear the bikini and it was sort of like an important step in becoming comfortable with my body, because for a long time she would pick out what I was supposed to wear and control me in such ways.

I detached myself from her a decade ago and I have no issues with self image, but it’s irritating that she’s still the same old idiot. She will probably text my husband the photos at some point, but I don’t care. If she does at least I will know she’s a piece of shit. I just can’t help wondering if I’m gona turn out to be as retarded as her, embarrassing my kid without any awareness or control over it. It’s also giving me a new perspective on how/why everyone does that to other people and I’m disgusted by how I have done things like that to my own friends, even if it seemed inconsequential to me. Ughhh too much truth for dxp?

Oh yeah, and since this is the astrology and relationships forum, I’ll add that I have Chiron conjunct the ascendant. So it makes sense.


to be honest, your mother was not right IMO to do that to you, if you asked her PLEASE dont do it. She disregarded your feelings. She may have been so focused on what she wanted but her child is begging and in pain and embaressment, she should in all honesty consider YOUR feelings. This does and can cause psychological damage.



but...she is STILL your mother.

you have to take the high road... and forgive her, because perhaps, she may have had that happen to her in the past and her upbringing. it's her karma to have a child like you, to teach her that she cannot do that. but honestly, as a child we have to forgive our parents because they are not perfect. we're not perfect.
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Posted by nanobot

Posted by BlueVelvet

Also @nanobot, I’m not threatened by intelligent women. LadyNeptune, AscSquarePluto, that girl with a Natalie Portman avatar who left, Sierra, and a handful of others. All people who don’t have to try to appear smart.


Okay but you calling everyone "retards" and "morons" and "idiots" in the thread puts you into your own category of trying to appear smart, by attempting to elevate yourself above people. That means that you are implying that you are much more intelligent than them and you are being the same exact thing that you call out other people for. Unless you also consider yourself a retard, moron, idiot....?
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Yeah I guess I am an idiot and a hypocrite. True dat
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Also @nanobot, I’m not threatened by intelligent women. LadyNeptune, AscSquarePluto, that girl with a Natalie Portman avatar who left, Sierra, and a handful of others. All people who don’t have to try to appear smart.


I agree with all except ladyneptune.

That hoebag smoked her brain cells away long ago. She can’t even debate without getting offensive, and calling people trash. That’s a complete cop out to actual intelligence.

If she could just once have a debate without getting emotional, and letting her opponents get the best of her my opinion would change.
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Posted by BlueVelvet

Posted by Arielle83

Posted by topes

Posted by Arielle83

So much nastiness


Victim threads will do that.


Don’t be a stupid, idiot, you retard!

Anyone who says he isn’t thinking it 99% of the time on dxp is lying.


Why are you bothering spending time here?

Why surround yourself with “idiots”?
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Why does anyone on here do it?
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Posted by Arielle83

Posted by BlueVelvet

Posted by Arielle83

Posted by BlueVelvet

Posted by Arielle83

Posted by topes

Posted by Arielle83

So much nastiness


Victim threads will do that.


Don’t be a stupid, idiot, you retard!

Anyone who says he isn’t thinking it 99% of the time on dxp is lying.


Why are you bothering spending time here?

Why surround yourself with “idiots”?

Why does anyone on here do it?


I don’t think people are idiots.

Differing opinions help people become more open minded.
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what. Aren’t u the one who is a biatch to pretty much everyone yet you get away with it?
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Posted by Arielle83

Posted by BlueVelvet

Posted by Arielle83

Posted by BlueVelvet

Posted by Arielle83

Posted by BlueVelvet

Posted by Arielle83

Posted by topes

Posted by Arielle83

So much nastiness


Victim threads will do that.


Don’t be a stupid, idiot, you retard!

Anyone who says he isn’t thinking it 99% of the time on dxp is lying.


Why are you bothering spending time here?

Why surround yourself with “idiots”?

Why does anyone on here do it?


I don’t think people are idiots.

Differing opinions help people become more open minded.

what. Aren’t u the one who is a biatch to pretty much everyone yet you get away with it?


Where?

In this thread I asked you a question about whether a narcissist can’t be wrong or hates being challenged and you said:

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Posted by Arielle83

Do narcissists not like being wrong or challenged?

Oh good one. I see where this is going! Fuck off. U are obsessed with shitting on people. Go find a toilet.


When I wanted to know, because I was thinking about my father and how he acted towards me.

So when someone comes at me like that, I will be a bitch back, because your reaction was ridiculous.

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Oh ok. But u bitch at ppl in general and no one pounces on u. Skillz
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Posted by Arielle83

Posted by BlueVelvet

Posted by Arielle83

Posted by BlueVelvet

Posted by Arielle83

Posted by BlueVelvet

Posted by Arielle83

Posted by BlueVelvet

Posted by Arielle83

Posted by topes

Posted by Arielle83

So much nastiness


Victim threads will do that.


Don’t be a stupid, idiot, you retard!

Anyone who says he isn’t thinking it 99% of the time on dxp is lying.


Why are you bothering spending time here?

Why surround yourself with “idiots”?

Why does anyone on here do it?


I don’t think people are idiots.

Differing opinions help people become more open minded.

what. Aren’t u the one who is a biatch to pretty much everyone yet you get away with it?


Where?

In this thread I asked you a question about whether a narcissist can’t be wrong or hates being challenged and you said:

Posted by BlueVelvet

Posted by Arielle83

Do narcissists not like being wrong or challenged?

Oh good one. I see where this is going! Fuck off. U are obsessed with shitting on people. Go find a toilet.


When I wanted to know, because I was thinking about my father and how he acted towards me.

So when someone comes at me like that, I will be a bitch back, because your reaction was ridiculous.



Oh ok. But u bitch at ppl in general and no one pounces on u. Skillz


I’m not bitching unless it’s someone who has continually harassed me because they were offended when I don’t agree with them.

It’s banter back
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Oh. It’s always a chicken or the egg situation.