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Posted by Libralula
I might chase a little if I truly care about someone...but after a while I will move on.. and more often then not, they realize what was lost then they begin to chase me.
I do the same. My ex still tries to play games with me. I know that she realizes what she has lost and is too damn stubborn to admit it. She broke it off for good but she is the one still trying to get in contact with me. I really hope she finds balance though. Deep down she is a great girl.
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Posted by tiziani
Posted by busyeyes88
No disrespect OP, but you have spent the last two years fawning over that sag and you have already "replaced " him with another guy already within a couple of months—

How fake.are you??
I don't see how that makes someone fake. I've seen a lot of people work this way genuinely. They want something so much with one person until one day they just don't want it anymore. After that, freedom.
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ViS can suddenly wake up, remove the rose tinted, and move on. This is easier when the other person is out of the picture/no contact. It doesn't mean we don't care or feel. It just means we don't want it anymore. Usually something drastic has to happen to get it to register in our thick brains!
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Posted by YellowSubmarine
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oh yeah, that's what I wanted.. nice and predictable

who the fuck are you to tell her what to do with her life?? It's her baby, it's her men, it's her life.. it's her mess, not yours. Keep your fucking projected bullshit to yourself, and maybe consider actually answering people's questions.
The point is that the OP has been 'chasing' this guy for a considerably long time. OP is Taurus Sun/Gem Venus. The guy in question is Sag Sun with Scorp Venus. The title of the post is a little misleading in a way.

Based on her 'story' from previous threads, which are available to read, it's been very much on/off between them. Mainly off, lots of drama, push/pull. Neither appear old enough, mature enough, stable enough to commit to a relationship or decide on the best course of action.

From memory, which may fail me, there's drink/drugs involved. Mainly on his part. The sex is great, apparently but little else is.

After months and years of this on/off they've still not committed to each other. Meanwhile, they've both been off shagging other people. OP is still chasing him and all attempts to get him into a commited relationship have failed.

Suddenly, OP comes back four months pregnant.

Whoops... How on earth did that happen??

OP said it just happened.

No. I'm sorry. It doesn't just 'happen' at all.

You don't just fall over and all of a sudden you're pregnant. We all know how it works.

My personal take on this is it was calculated and done on purpose. OP was desperate for a tie to this guy... And now she has it.

Aside from marriage, there's not really any other stronger tie you could possibly have to someone other than having a baby together.

Let's face it, it's far easier to open your legs and get pregnant. Sure honey, I'm on birth control... Than have the guy ask for your hand in marriage.

Unfortunately, I've seen the above happen far too many times and it's saddening and disappointing. At OP's age there's more to life than chasing dick, and not even a good quality dick. Bringing a child into the world used to be a huge decision, a life long responsibility, ideally between two stable people. That's not always possible and people do get the fuck on with it.

I don't think bringing another man into the equation at four months pregnant is the best thing to do so Busy has a point in perhaps she needs to have space instead of jumping from dick to dick to fill her hole... And not just the one between her legs!

That said, it's OP's life and it's up to them to deal with it.

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Posted by tiziani
Posted by Noreallynow
I never chased anyone. I let the do the chasing.. Maybe it's my cancer moon. I don't like to push myself one anyone. Ill analyze the situation and talk to others about it, but I won't chase behind you. I guess it's pride.

After a breakup, I'm usually open minded to the fact that they will eventually pop back up again. If I still have feelings for that person or if the still have my heart, I'll still wait until they come back. When they've been gone for a long period time. I eventually move on and forget that they exist. At that point there's no looking back. When I love someone one, it's all about that person. I have tunnel vision when it comes to that individual. Nothing else matters, but when I'm done... I'm done.
Good to see you around, Merry Christmas.
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Thanks! Merry Christmas!!!!
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Posted by busyeyes88
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Posted by busyeyes88
No disrespect OP, but you have spent the last two years fawning over that sag and you have already "replaced " him with another guy already within a couple of months—

How fake.are you??
I don't see how that makes someone fake. I've seen a lot of people work this way genuinely. They want something so much with one person until one day they just don't want it anymore. After that, freedom.
But surely it's better to stay single?! Why "latch on" to some other fool and then bring them into an already messy mix!!! Smh!
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I do this, or have done it a few times.

I think sometimes it is trying to replace the connection.

It isn't fake, it's just emotional acting out.
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Posted by YellowSubmarine
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I only enjoy arguing with Busyeyes, she is the chosen one.. but alright, I got another half hour or so.

It's very convenient to end your post with that statement, all the while accusing the OP of some heinous act.

There is no "ideal" situation to consider here because the situation is what it is; if you're so concerned, call child services and let the professionals deal with it. Oh wait, you can't because you don't actually know her, do you? I know I don't, but I'm not the one jumping to baseless conclusions.

Do people stop to consider how uniquely difficult this situation is before throwing their judgmental two cents into it? Seriously, there's a child involved.. all the more reason for her to do what it takes to maintain whatever level of happiness and support she deems fit for herself and her child. None of you are that child's mother, she is, bottom fucking line.
Cheers for that.

Frankly, I think you're waffling. It's a lot of hot air with the usual 'judgemental' accusations and the 'stating the obvious' making an appearance. You're arguing for the sake of arguing.

I didn't accuse the OP of a heinous act. I gave my view on her situation which is based on her current AND previous posts. It doesn't matter whether I'm right or wrong. That's irrelevant.

Have you read OP's current and previous posts? All of them?

You whinge about me not knowing the OP and jumping to 'baseless conclusions'. OP's posts of her story are as fact based as it can possibly get on here. This is not a court of law so I'm drawing my fact based conclusions on the only fact based information which is available.

Yes, I do consider the uniquely different situation OP finds herself in. I'm afraid I cannot speak for other people here. I'm able to consider this due to the numerous fact based posts by OP. I draw your attention to the above reasoning.

Perhaps if OP had considered her uniquely different situation there would not be a child caught up in this mess. That's the bottom fucking line.
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Posted by DMV
^^^ exactly. That is the definition of selfish

Now this new guy may have a thing for pregnant sex

Thanks DMV!

He liked me for a while before i got pregnant and continued to pursue and chase... He's a great guy... and things were getting a bit serious, he gave me his house keys already...

He's away at the moment so i sent a message saying we should put a pause until the baby is born as a lot can happen...

...... so maybe its for the best for now....
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Posted by YellowSubmarine
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I only enjoy arguing with Busyeyes, she is the chosen one.. but alright, I got another half hour or so.

It's very convenient to end your post with that statement, all the while accusing the OP of some heinous act.

There is no "ideal" situation to consider here because the situation is what it is; if you're so concerned, call child services and let the professionals deal with it. Oh wait, you can't because you don't actually know her, do you? I know I don't, but I'm not the one jumping to baseless conclusions.

Do people stop to consider how uniquely difficult this situation is before throwing their judgmental two cents into it? Seriously, there's a child involved.. all the more reason for her to do what it takes to maintain whatever level of happiness and support she deems fit for herself and her child. None of you are that child's mother, she is, bottom fucking line.
Cheers for that.

Frankly, I think you're waffling. It's a lot of hot air with the usual 'judgemental' accusations and the 'stating the obvious' making an appearance. You're arguing for the sake of arguing.

I didn't accuse the OP of a heinous act. I gave my view on her situation which is based on her current AND previous posts. It doesn't matter whether I'm right or wrong. That's irrelevant.

Have you read OP's current and previous posts? All of them?

You whinge about me not knowing the OP and jumping to 'baseless conclusions'. OP's posts of her story are as fact based as it can possibly get on here. This is not a court of law so I'm drawing my fact based conclusions on the only fact based information which is available.

Yes, I do consider the uniquely different situation OP finds herself in. I'm afraid I cannot speak for other people here. I'm able to consider this due to the numerous fact based posts by OP. I draw your attention to the above reasoning.

Perhaps if OP had considered her uniquely different situation there would not be a child caught up in this mess. That's the bottom fucking line.
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@ AgentP

I didn't fall pregnant to TRAP THE MAN ! I got furiously angry at him for even thinking that way. ! YES it may seem that way... but you are not me and i am not you.

You do not understand what the true story is. MY previous posts are mainly problems that i had but i never mentioned really the amazing thing.

IF you happen to read the poem he wrote, there are bits he mentioned about us creating MAGIC together while we sleep together.. ITs not something i ever experienced in my life.

YES it sounds childish... but thats how i want my first child to be born...out of love making...intense one..spir
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Posted by YellowSubmarine
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oh yeah, that's what I wanted.. nice and predictable

who the fuck are you to tell her what to do with her life?? It's her baby, it's her men, it's her life.. it's her mess, not yours. Keep your fucking projected bullshit to yourself, and maybe consider actually answering people's questions.
Thank you YellowSubmarine.. I don't see what she posts.. I hid her messages a long time ago... I don't want to waste my energy on her.. She says stubborn are stubborn but look at her poking at my posts all the time.. its kind of funny lol...
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OOPS my posts got cut off

@ AgentP..

the point is, i will be perfectly fine as a single mother.. yes it would be nice to have him involved but that wasn't my INTENTION to fall pregnant with him

I want the gift to be born out of love and intense experience which it did...

What we created was magic and not just shagging. I was in a relationship with a guy for two years but i did not fall pregnant with him even though i wanted us to move forward a little. We had sex like normal people do..so it didn't make me wanna have a baby with him..

Its different. You won't understand until u are me which will never happen... the point is this baby will not be brought up in a mess in any way.

i am a very strong independent person and i do not need a guy who isn't ready 100 percents to be involved with the baby. I want him when he's ready 100 percents..

I have a friend who fell pregnant with her ex as well, she cuds't handle the fact that her left wanted her to get an abortion and broke up with her..etc.. she had to MOVE away and delete all her social media coz she struggled to cope...

I am completely different.... working hard almost everyday and fighting through doing the best for my child. I am a lot stronger than you think i am.. and just because i fell pregnant with someone i truly truly love..does't mean i want to TRAP him..

also , i did want a LATINO blood for my child as I do latino dancing.and he is latino..

that sums it up right?

lets move on to the original question of this post instead of my life story... lol
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Posted by VIS_lover
When I was dating i did have a tendency to be persistent. Once I was completely over the person I genuinely couldn't feel any type of attraction to them. I saw them strictly as friends. But yea I was a chaser

when you did see them as friends,

do you CATCH up with them?...coz you no longer feel the attraction.. if they ask you to meet up..are you ok with that?
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I'm a VIS in I find it a betrayal to claim u love me n move on that easily specially carrying my child.
Is he chasing now
" no not really"
There is ur answer.
I was doing what was best at the time....

ps: he had someone else on the side too...

and no i have never truly moved on ...more of a self protection...
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Yeah... He's that truly great guy... Who had someone else on the side...
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Posted by saweetz1988
OOPS my posts got cut off

@ AgentP..

the point is, i will be perfectly fine as a single mother.. yes it would be nice to have him involved but that wasn't my INTENTION to fall pregnant with him

I want the gift to be born out of love and intense experience which it did...

What we created was magic and not just shagging. I was in a relationship with a guy for two years but i did not fall pregnant with him even though i wanted us to move forward a little. We had sex like normal people do..so it didn't make me wanna have a baby with him..

Its different. You won't understand until u are me which will never happen... the point is this baby will not be brought up in a mess in any way.

i am a very strong independent person and i do not need a guy who isn't ready 100 percents to be involved with the baby. I want him when he's ready 100 percents..

I have a friend who fell pregnant with her ex as well, she cuds't handle the fact that her left wanted her to get an abortion and broke up with her..etc.. she had to MOVE away and delete all her social media coz she struggled to cope...

I am completely different.... working hard almost everyday and fighting through doing the best for my child. I am a lot stronger than you think i am.. and just because i fell pregnant with someone i truly truly love..does't mean i want to TRAP him..

also , i did want a LATINO blood for my child as I do latino dancing.and he is latino..

that sums it up right?

lets move on to the original question of this post instead of my life story... lol
Yes it sums it up nicely. You are, indeed, delusional!

Good luck with it. You're going to need it.
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Posted by saweetz1988
@Lisa wow what a story lol. I truly think the cancer placement played a big part in that. I know cancers have a tendency to drop eveything for the one they love where cap moon wil struggle with his own emotion.! Great story though...

It's not the cancer placement. I have the same placements and I will never follow or force a man to be with me. I have Mars in cap, though. This person has Mars in Leo. Mars is suppose to be the planet of actions, isn't it? So, it could be the Mars. I know cancer Suns that wouldn't drop everything to be with someone.
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i did think of that too, the leo mars. It's not gonna stop. Fixed purpose.

but having cancer, i feel that the energy combined gives alot of tenacity. Then again, i remember writng in topics about cancer/leo combinations.

Another true story and coincidence too, since you mentioned the cancer suns who wouldnt drop everything to be with someone. Wellllll.....i have known personally one in particular, who me and a girlfrend set up years ago, and i wasn't into astrology at all then. She was a pisces sun ( i remember her bday) and he was cancer sun with leo mars, leo venus and leo moon. I know ...i know...that's ALOT of leo. I did his chart and thought oh my.... and he bought a ticket to visit her, thousands of miles away from his home. She did not want to be with him because she fell in love with a religious guy, and she felt the cancer sun/leo stellium guy was not religious enough. But we thought personally that was just an excuse, cause if a woman loves a man, she'd do anything for him. And that Pisces gal did alot for that religiouis guy, and turned religioius for him. (when she wasn't religious before).....

so, you are correct about the leo mars.
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Posted by Impulsv
Nope I don't use my charm I use my heart when I chase n I'm all in. aLL IN.
There is never second guessing regarding this from the other. They will know how I feel through my actions.
i feel this way too. i'm a bit of a stalker though. in the early stages. i don't want to get involved until i have a firm grasp on the facts. when i am truly all in (and this can take a looong time) there is no hesitation as to my feelings. it is all consuming, obsessive, sacrificial. i also see it as destructive, like a necessary death.
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And OP, for the record, I don't need to be you to understand the deep feeling of wanting a child with someone you love which is made out of love. I've had that twice. The only difference was the practicalities. I didn't want to be a single mother or take the chance. You said you're an independent woman who doesn't need a guy who isn't 100% - then you shouldn't be making babies with guys who aren't 100% . That independence you think you have. Well say goodbye to it. All of it. You wanted a Latino baby because you like dancing. I nearly died laughing at that. I do hope he comes round though. Sometimes it might take a while but fingers crossed.
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And OP, for the record, I don't need to be you to understand the deep feeling of wanting a child with someone you love which is made out of love. I've had that twice. The only difference was the practicalities. I didn't want to be a single mother or take the chance. You said you're an independent woman who doesn't need a guy who isn't 100% - then you shouldn't be making babies with guys who aren't 100% . That independence you think you have. Well say goodbye to it. All of it. You wanted a Latino baby because you like dancing. I nearly died laughing at that. I do hope he comes round though. Sometimes it might take a while but fingers crossed.

I don't care what your opinions are anymore. Bringing back the past instead of offering useful advise for the future.. not just the dancing. I love the culture and everything about it. My explanation to you is irrelevant since you seem to love criticising other people's behaviour.. I'm not on DXPnET for that... And you are no one to judge me at all. You are judging my ability as a mother just because the guy isn't around. That's irrelevant.. I don't know what your problem is but your opinion no longer matter to me.z continue judging .. It doesn't affect me one bit.
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Posted by Impulsv
Nope I don't use my charm I use my heart when I chase n I'm all in. aLL IN.
There is never second guessing regarding this from the other. They will know how I feel through my actions.
i feel this way too. i'm a bit of a stalker though. in the early stages. i don't want to get involved until i have a firm grasp on the facts. when i am truly all in (and this can take a looong time) there is no hesitation as to my feelings. it is all consuming, obsessive, sacrificial. i also see it as destructive, like a necessary death.
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How long is a long time?
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Posted by Impulsv
Nope I don't use my charm I use my heart when I chase n I'm all in. aLL IN.
There is never second guessing regarding this from the other. They will know how I feel through my actions.
i feel this way too. i'm a bit of a stalker though. in the early stages. i don't want to get involved until i have a firm grasp on the facts. when i am truly all in (and this can take a looong time) there is no hesitation as to my feelings. it is all consuming, obsessive, sacrificial. i also see it as destructive, like a necessary death.

How long is a long time?
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for me, to truly surrender to it took years.
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Posted by Impulsv
Nope I don't use my charm I use my heart when I chase n I'm all in. aLL IN.
There is never second guessing regarding this from the other. They will know how I feel through my actions.
i feel this way too. i'm a bit of a stalker though. in the early stages. i don't want to get involved until i have a firm grasp on the facts. when i am truly all in (and this can take a looong time) there is no hesitation as to my feelings. it is all consuming, obsessive, sacrificial. i also see it as destructive, like a necessary death.

How long is a long time?
for me, to truly surrender to it took years.
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Did they sho consistency...? .. how many years ? lol....
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Posted by Impulsv
Nope I don't use my charm I use my heart when I chase n I'm all in. aLL IN.
There is never second guessing regarding this from the other. They will know how I feel through my actions.
i feel this way too. i'm a bit of a stalker though. in the early stages. i don't want to get involved until i have a firm grasp on the facts. when i am truly all in (and this can take a looong time) there is no hesitation as to my feelings. it is all consuming, obsessive, sacrificial. i also see it as destructive, like a necessary death.

How long is a long time?
for me, to truly surrender to it took years.

Did they sho consistency...? .. how many years ? lol....
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they showed consistency in being open and honest and never swerving from the person i believed them to be. to give them all my trust (which is the hardest thing for me) and place my well being and future in their hands took two years.
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Cheers for that.

Frankly, I think you're waffling. It's a lot of hot air with the usual 'judgemental' accusations and the 'stating the obvious' making an appearance. You're arguing for the sake of arguing.

I didn't accuse the OP of a heinous act. I gave my view on her situation which is based on her current AND previous posts. It doesn't matter whether I'm right or wrong. That's irrelevant.

Have you read OP's current and previous posts? All of them?

You whinge about me not knowing the OP and jumping to 'baseless conclusions'. OP's posts of her story are as fact based as it can possibly get on here. This is not a court of law so I'm drawing my fact based conclusions on the only fact based information which is available.

Yes, I do consider the uniquely different situation OP finds herself in. I'm afraid I cannot speak for other people here. I'm able to consider this due to the numerous fact based posts by OP. I draw your attention to the above reasoning.

Perhaps if OP had considered her uniquely different situation there would not be a child caught up in this mess. That's the bottom fucking line.
With you? I'm arguing bc you're the one who quoted me.. trust me, I wouldn't bother otherwise.

I said “do people stop to consider…before throwing their judgmental two cents...?”, not “you”. I already know you considered how unique the situation was since you have a knack for coming up with unique stories.

You wrote what you wrote and it's there for everyone to see. You can’t flash a crowd, and then claim you didn’t really show anyone your tits. Don't play coy, we all know it's not your strong suit.

Your post was driven by defense of yourself, rather than to actually stay on topic bc you threw out a bullshit accusation with nothing to back it up.. that's where your mind went, which is unfortunate for you.

Yes I've seen her posts. That's relationship drama, which I normally stay out of, but now there's a child, which you totally lost sight of..I mean, you even made the bottom line a hypothetical ffs lol
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Again, this is just waffle. Flash a crowd and then claim I didn't show my tits - would be an amusing line, if it actually meant something but it doesn't. It's just words. My post wasn't driven by defence of myself. It also wasn't a bullshit accusation. There's lots to back up why I drew my conclusion. You're just too stupid to see it. Sure, I come up with unique stories every day. Whatever. As for the bottom line being hypercri
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Again, this is just waffle. Flash a crowd and then claim I didn't show my tits - would be an amusing line, if it actually meant something but it doesn't. It's just words. My post wasn't driven by defence of myself. It also wasn't a bullshit accusation. There's lots to back up why I drew my conclusion. You're just too stupid to see it. Sure, I come up with unique stories every day. Whatever. As for the bottom line being hypercritical. How so? It's common sense. Use protection and don't get pregnant. I don't see an issue with that.
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And OP, for the record, I don't need to be you to understand the deep feeling of wanting a child with someone you love which is made out of love. I've had that twice. The only difference was the practicalities. I didn't want to be a single mother or take the chance. You said you're an independent woman who doesn't need a guy who isn't 100% - then you shouldn't be making babies with guys who aren't 100% . That independence you think you have. Well say goodbye to it. All of it. You wanted a Latino baby because you like dancing. I nearly died laughing at that. I do hope he comes round though. Sometimes it might take a while but fingers crossed.

I don't care what your opinions are anymore. Bringing back the past instead of offering useful advise for the future.. not just the dancing. I love the culture and everything about it. My explanation to you is irrelevant since you seem to love criticising other people's behaviour.. I'm not on DXPnET for that... And you are no one to judge me at all. You are judging my ability as a mother just because the guy isn't around. That's irrelevant.. I don't know what your problem is but your opinion no longer matter to me.z continue judging .. It doesn't affect me one bit.
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I love curry but I'm not going to have a baby with an Indian dude because I like the food!
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like others said, i don't show my feelings either. there is all this stuff going on in the background that i will probably never show him.

What stops you from being vulnerable and show your true feelings...? did they struggle when you didn't show your feelings? What did they do or what made you 100 percent sure to make you come out of your shell...
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he knows how i feel but i guess he doesn't know the depths of my feeling, even i struggle with acknowledging that. plus i think if he knew he might think i'm unhinged and it is private. the obsession is real. i also don't think this kind of consuming love is particularly healthy. i try to keep a lid on it a lot.

where it gets hard is those times where we have crossed wires. there are times where he thinks i am losing interest. i think that is a bad combination of me being protective and non-expressive and him having moments of insecurity.
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like others said, i don't show my feelings either. there is all this stuff going on in the background that i will probably never show him.
Wow that's pretty sad, don't you think he deserves it?

I know it sounds so cruel..
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maybe it is cruel and sad, i don't know. it's sort of like asking a taurus to verbally express themselves. there's a block. there is a block with me too. i just cannot do it.

even when we first got together he thought i was cold and inexpressive. i was. i still am to a degree. i can't help it. it's all an internal turmoil.
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like others said, i don't show my feelings either. there is all this stuff going on in the background that i will probably never show him.
Wow that's pretty sad, don't you think he deserves it?

I know it sounds so cruel..
maybe it is cruel and sad, i don't know. it's sort of like asking a taurus to verbally express themselves. there's a block. there is a block with me too. i just cannot do it.

even when we first got together he thought i was cold and inexpressive. i was. i still am to a degree. i can't help it. it's all an internal turmoil.
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Did it take you two years to commit to a relationship with him ?
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like others said, i don't show my feelings either. there is all this stuff going on in the background that i will probably never show him.
Wow that's pretty sad, don't you think he deserves it?

I know it sounds so cruel..
maybe it is cruel and sad, i don't know. it's sort of like asking a taurus to verbally express themselves. there's a block. there is a block with me too. i just cannot do it.

even when we first got together he thought i was cold and inexpressive. i was. i still am to a degree. i can't help it. it's all an internal turmoil.

Did it take you two years to commit to a relationship with him ?
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no. we had been very good friends for about a year before we got together but once the relationship progressed beyond friendship, i think we were committed within a month.
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Again, this is just waffle. Flash a crowd and then claim I didn't show my tits - would be an amusing line, if it actually meant something but it doesn't. It's just words. My post wasn't driven by defence of myself. It also wasn't a bullshit accusation. There's lots to back up why I drew my conclusion. You're just too stupid to see it. Sure, I come up with unique stories every day. Whatever. As for the bottom line being hypercritical. How so? It's common sense. Use protection and don't get pregnant. I don't see an issue with that.
Ok, I said hypothetical, not hypercritical.. Again, very defensive of self. But if you're not even gonna pay attn, what's the point? At least busyeyes can read the post properly, and owns her bs. With you, it's just circles and clucking for attn in general. And you don't even understand analogies.. Aw.

Of course they're just words - what are we gonna meet at sundown to duel this out?? Lol.. You know how this works, so again, don't be coy.

Calling me stupid, really? That's your best argument? When you can't even read the post right? Ok!

My point is clear, valid, and has been made - if you have a rational one to make, by all means... Please do walk us through your fact-based conclusion.
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Wow... You managed to write four paragraphs about one point... I didn't realise you're more full of hot air than I gave you credit for. Congratulations!

You want me to walk you through my conclusion which I drew from OP's posts regarding her story? Fuck me, don't be such a lazy cunt and go and read them yourself. I've already said my points which answer this. They're the same points you're shitting over.
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Again, this is just waffle. Flash a crowd and then claim I didn't show my tits - would be an amusing line, if it actually meant something but it doesn't. It's just words. My post wasn't driven by defence of myself. It also wasn't a bullshit accusation. There's lots to back up why I drew my conclusion. You're just too stupid to see it. Sure, I come up with unique stories every day. Whatever. As for the bottom line being hypercritical. How so? It's common sense. Use protection and don't get pregnant. I don't see an issue with that.
Ok, I said hypothetical, not hypercritical.. Again, very defensive of self. But if you're not even gonna pay attn, what's the point? At least busyeyes can read the post properly, and owns her bs. With you, it's just circles and clucking for attn in general. And you don't even understand analogies.. Aw.

Of course they're just words - what are we gonna meet at sundown to duel this out?? Lol.. You know how this works, so again, don't be coy.

Calling me stupid, really? That's your best argument? When you can't even read the post right? Ok!

My point is clear, valid, and has been made - if you have a rational one to make, by all means... Please do walk us through your fact-based conclusion.
Wow... You managed to write four paragraphs about one point... I didn't realise you're more full of hot air than I gave you credit for. Congratulations!

You want me to walk you through my conclusion which I drew from OP's posts regarding her story? Fuck me, don't be such a lazy cunt and go and read them yourself. I've already said my points which answer this. They're the same points you're shitting over.
If I could love that post, I would. I'd frame it. Laziness is the new deflection.. OK!

You took the time to type out the summary and your lovely personal stance. Yet your point remains to be made because you can't make it. Perfect. The actual "lazy cunt" here is fairly obvious.
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My points are:

1) OP has tried and failed to get this guy to commit to her for a long period of time.

2) OP is now four months pregnant.

3) OP said it just 'happened'.

4) pregnancies don't just 'happen'.

5) my view is that OP got herself pregnant on purpose in order to create a permanent tie to this guy.

6) they have both been shagging each other and other people.

7) OP is now with another guy while only four months pregnant with Sag guys baby.

8) OP says she loves Sag guy and wan
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8) OP says she loves Sag guy and wanted a Latino baby because she likes dancing.

9) OP and Sag guy are not in a stable, commited relationship together so bringing a baby into the world is not ideal.

10) hopefully Sag guy will step up and at least be a good dad even if they don't come together.

11) why be with the other guy if she loves the sag. Why not take time out for herself - which was Busys original point I believe.

Main points being 5,9 and 11.

I didn't realise you wanted me to regurgitate what I'd already written and spoon feed it to you.

Nobody has to agree with my points. They're my points. They've been made. I am allowed to type on this forum too. People are allowed to disagree with each other. I'm happy to debate points rather than argue about them.

I'm not entirely sure what your own point was aside from not liking my own points.
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Yes, you already summarized all that before. Look the point is you can't prove any real base for your conclusion so this conversation is moot. You threw out a ridiculous accusation that you can't prove, and now you wanna keep going in circles.. I made my bottom line and point in response to your story - go back and read it, it's factual. Yours is not.
My conclusion is my conclusion.

It was a conclusion not an accusation.

You made my conclusion an accusation.

My conclusion is based from reading all of OPs posts relating to her story, which has gone on for years, which is why I told you to go and read them and maybe you can form your own conclusion from them instead of trying to pick holes in mine.

Like I told you before, this is not a court of law, there is nothing to prove here. I simply read her posts which are her words and as far as I'm concerned they are the facts of the case because they are the only facts of the case we have here on dxp, and from her posts, which are publicly available, I felt she likely got pregnant on purpose to tie this guy to her because it's the only route she has left. Whether she did or not is her business. She said she didn't. Fair enough. She said she loves him and wanted a Latino baby. Fair enough. You want to go ape shit at me because you're bored. Fair enough.

Now, I have a really big bag of 'I don't give a fuck about you' so I'm going to take that with me and go to bed. Good night.
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Thanks all. I'm left to move on from him truly. He came around On Christmas ( message ) wishing me a healthy birth and happened to have an opinion on the baby's name.. After few messages he dissapeared again.. I asked him to see each other so we can have a proper conversation about what he truly wants... nothing. A day with nothing. I was in too much pain... He does this come and go behaviour..... I can't take it and the baby can't take it either.... He will never change... His deep intention to be the father properly might be there but he can not stick with it. The drugs and eveything and being a sag sun is probably the cause of it. He can't even communicate properly.... So I ended up telling him that if he needs to stay gone unless he can come back around 1000 percents. The baby deserves everything he can get and not a wishy washy behaviour... the names were probably just to see if I can be in his wave again.... Now that he noes I still have feelings for him.. He dissapears..... what's up with that.... Anyway.... He's toxic for me and the baby.... Regardless of what signs he is or how much I love him... It will never work out... so sadly I hope he stays gone... 😢
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No offense but damn this is a clusterfuck.

Youre in a relationship while pregnant by another guy who youre really in love with?

This is alot to deal with especially while pregnant.

Why not just be by yourself?

Whats up with this new guy? Odd

I guess things got carried away. After a huge fight and a month of pain .. This guy I'm with was chasing me for a while and I see a ( potential) in us working out great as a couple and plus he wanted to be part of the baby's life.... He keeps me from being mentally sad about the real father of the child... I'm not a depressed or sad person and I'm well happy... but I thought it was the best thing to do..... I do hope things will change when the baby is born but my hope isn't high... Unless he's off drugs .. Nothing will change... it's just sad ....
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So you "do hope things will change when the baby is born" meaning this new guy is just a placeholder until you can get back together with the baby dady?

That's all kinds of fucked up dude. Your gonna kick him to the curb even though he's the one whose been there for you and will also step up to be a father to your kid. He's just disposable to you, that's cold.

Your situation is pretty impossible and I can't even imagine what it'd feel like to be in your shoes, but still... I'd like to think I wouldn't use someone so viciously.