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Write something that annoys you about the modern world.

I hate that most to all relationships nowadays is not about genuine care and admiration for the person you're with but rather about two parties just using each other for some gain. I wouldn't use sex since both parties receive sexual gratification. I'll give some examples to illustrate my point. I see an older below avg. looking woman who is financially stable dating a young very good looking guy who is not financially stable. From afar you're thinking he must like mature women for their wisdom/experience, but up close it's the financial perks he's receiving from her. Totally leeching off her financially. Just when you're feeling sorry for the older woman, you find out she's not so innocent. She has the perk of showing her young hot boy toy to other ladies, who wish they had him.

Then, you have an attractive woman using a below avg.looking male so he can foot the bill for her expenses. They call it "love" but up close everything they talk about goes back to money or mutual gains. No admiration, no care, no nothing for the other person past whatever they are gaining from the relationship.
How you know all that?




These people I mentioned I know them very closely. The sad part is one of them shamelessly admitted to the thing that makes them dependent on their partner yet thinks their partner truly loves them, when in reality they are also using them for something else.




How does all that apply to what's wrong with relationships in general, in society?


Being in a relationship for a personal gain, by choice, as opposed to truly liking the person isn't anything wrong?


So in your mind those two things are mutually exclusive? It's possible to both truly like someone and gain personally from them as well.

Your funny. Getting your panties all in a twist over someone else's relationship. They have to live with their choices, not you.

Maybe it's time to take up a hobby.
It's possible to truly like someone and gain personally simultaneously. Nothing wrong with that but that's not what I'm discussing. I'm discussing the "being in a relationship for the sake of personal gain" and I used those two as an example. Not so we can dissect their relationship.


Your dissecting their relationship and interpreting it in a way that supports your viewpoint. So what's the difference??


Theirs is one of many I've seen. What I'm saying is this newfound dynamic that's become a norm is bothersome to me, especially when one comes out of a personal gain kind of relationship and then expects the same of their next partner. It starts a cycle of using another.

This is as clear as I'm going to get in my message and you can't comprehend this, then may God be with you.

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I hear what your saying. Hear me. This is NOT a 'newfound dynamic'.

People have been using each other since the beginning of time. All you can do is be accountable for your own actions and cut the users out as soon as you identify them. Everything else is an exercise in futility.

Ok, I'll leave you to your rant space now.
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Write something that annoys you about the modern world.

I hate that most to all relationships nowadays is not about genuine care and admiration for the person you're with but rather about two parties just using each other for some gain. I wouldn't use sex since both parties receive sexual gratification. I'll give some examples to illustrate my point. I see an older below avg. looking woman who is financially stable dating a young very good looking guy who is not financially stable. From afar you're thinking he must like mature women for their wisdom/experience, but up close it's the financial perks he's receiving from her. Totally leeching off her financially. Just when you're feeling sorry for the older woman, you find out she's not so innocent. She has the perk of showing her young hot boy toy to other ladies, who wish they had him.

Then, you have an attractive woman using a below avg.looking male so he can foot the bill for her expenses. They call it "love" but up close everything they talk about goes back to money or mutual gains. No admiration, no care, no nothing for the other person past whatever they are gaining from the relationship.
What's wrong with that? Most relationships are about give and take. Seems like both parties are getting something out of the relationship that makes them happy.

Who are YOU to judge how someone chooses to live their life.
You're probably one of those people who use your partner for something and that's why you're promoting that garbage.

I'm actually someone who dates a person because I like them for the person they are. Since you missed the point of the thread, I'll simplify it for you. It's that I don't like that system or what society has become.


What am I promoting? Oh that's right, I'm pointing out that you shouldn't concern yourself with other people's choices and motivations.

All the evil that happens on the daily and your concerned with this bullshit. Smh.

Edit: of course I use my partner. Just as he uses me. Relationships are about an exchange, duh.
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Stop generalizing and assuming that everyone uses their partner. Some have integrity and like the person for who they are: rich or poor, good looking or not.

I don't need you to point anything out to me especially when I'm not even doing what you think I'm doing.

You promote what you are. This post probably offends you because you're a user. I'm sharing my opinion or what bothers me. Why does it bother you? ? Truth ruffles feathers, doesn't it?

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Write something that annoys you about the modern world.

I hate that most to all relationships nowadays is not about genuine care and admiration for the person you're with but rather about two parties just using each other for some gain. I wouldn't use sex since both parties receive sexual gratification. I'll give some examples to illustrate my point. I see an older below avg. looking woman who is financially stable dating a young very good looking guy who is not financially stable. From afar you're thinking he must like mature women for their wisdom/experience, but up close it's the financial perks he's receiving from her. Totally leeching off her financially. Just when you're feeling sorry for the older woman, you find out she's not so innocent. She has the perk of showing her young hot boy toy to other ladies, who wish they had him.

Then, you have an attractive woman using a below avg.looking male so he can foot the bill for her expenses. They call it "love" but up close everything they talk about goes back to money or mutual gains. No admiration, no care, no nothing for the other person past whatever they are gaining from the relationship.
How you know all that?




These people I mentioned I know them very closely. The sad part is one of them shamelessly admitted to the thing that makes them dependent on their partner yet thinks their partner truly loves them, when in reality they are also using them for something else.




How does all that apply to what's wrong with relationships in general, in society?


Being in a relationship for a personal gain, by choice, as opposed to truly liking the person isn't anything wrong?


So in your mind those two things are mutually exclusive? It's possible to both truly like someone and gain personally from them as well.

Your funny. Getting your panties all in a twist over someone else's relationship. They have to live with their choices, not you.

Maybe it's time to take up a hobby.
It's possible to truly like someone and gain personally simultaneously. Nothing wrong with that but that's not what I'm discussing. I'm discussing the "being in a relationship for the sake of personal gain" and I used those two as an example. Not so we can dissect their relationship.


Your dissecting their relationship and interpreting it in a way that supports your viewpoint. So what's the difference??


Theirs is one of many I've seen. What I'm saying is this newfound dynamic that's become a norm is bothersome to me, especially when one comes out of a personal gain kind of relationship and then expects the same of their next partner. It starts a cycle of using another.

This is as clear as I'm going to get in my message and you can't comprehend this, then may God be with you.


I hear what your saying. Hear me. This is NOT a 'newfound dynamic'.

People have been using each other since the beginning of time. All you can do is be accountable for your own actions and cut the users out as soon as you identify them. Everything else is an exercise in futility.

Ok, I'll leave you to your rant space now.
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It's a newfound dynamic because now you're not in a predicament to use someone for per say financial gain. Before women were homemakers and couldn't work and so it was understandable to use or be with a man for financial provision. Now a woman has no excuse. Get a job and if you want more money, get a better job. Don't use a rich man to advance yourself.
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Write something that annoys you about the modern world.

I hate that most to all relationships nowadays is not about genuine care and admiration for the person you're with but rather about two parties just using each other for some gain. I wouldn't use sex since both parties receive sexual gratification. I'll give some examples to illustrate my point. I see an older below avg. looking woman who is financially stable dating a young very good looking guy who is not financially stable. From afar you're thinking he must like mature women for their wisdom/experience, but up close it's the financial perks he's receiving from her. Totally leeching off her financially. Just when you're feeling sorry for the older woman, you find out she's not so innocent. She has the perk of showing her young hot boy toy to other ladies, who wish they had him.

Then, you have an attractive woman using a below avg.looking male so he can foot the bill for her expenses. They call it "love" but up close everything they talk about goes back to money or mutual gains. No admiration, no care, no nothing for the other person past whatever they are gaining from the relationship.
What's wrong with that? Most relationships are about give and take. Seems like both parties are getting something out of the relationship that makes them happy.

Who are YOU to judge how someone chooses to live their life.
You're probably one of those people who use your partner for something and that's why you're promoting that garbage.

I'm actually someone who dates a person because I like them for the person they are. Since you missed the point of the thread, I'll simplify it for you. It's that I don't like that system or what society has become.


What am I promoting? Oh that's right, I'm pointing out that you shouldn't concern yourself with other people's choices and motivations.

All the evil that happens on the daily and your concerned with this bullshit. Smh.

Edit: of course I use my partner. Just as he uses me. Relationships are about an exchange, duh.
Stop generalizing and assuming that everyone uses their partner. Some have integrity and like the person for who they are: rich or poor, good looking or not.

I don't need you to point anything out to me especially when I'm not even doing what you think I'm doing.

You promote what you are. This post probably offends you because you're a user. I'm sharing my opinion or what bothers me. Why does it bother you? ? Truth ruffles feathers, doesn't it?

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Interesting that you think I'm bothered or offended.

EVERYONE uses their partner. Relationships are a two way street. Whether its financial, physical, emotional, mental,...you are getting SOMETHING from them or else you wouldn't BE WITH them to begin with.

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Write something that annoys you about the modern world.

I hate that most to all relationships nowadays is not about genuine care and admiration for the person you're with but rather about two parties just using each other for some gain. I wouldn't use sex since both parties receive sexual gratification. I'll give some examples to illustrate my point. I see an older below avg. looking woman who is financially stable dating a young very good looking guy who is not financially stable. From afar you're thinking he must like mature women for their wisdom/experience, but up close it's the financial perks he's receiving from her. Totally leeching off her financially. Just when you're feeling sorry for the older woman, you find out she's not so innocent. She has the perk of showing her young hot boy toy to other ladies, who wish they had him.

Then, you have an attractive woman using a below avg.looking male so he can foot the bill for her expenses. They call it "love" but up close everything they talk about goes back to money or mutual gains. No admiration, no care, no nothing for the other person past whatever they are gaining from the relationship.
How you know all that?




These people I mentioned I know them very closely. The sad part is one of them shamelessly admitted to the thing that makes them dependent on their partner yet thinks their partner truly loves them, when in reality they are also using them for something else.




How does all that apply to what's wrong with relationships in general, in society?


Being in a relationship for a personal gain, by choice, as opposed to truly liking the person isn't anything wrong?


So in your mind those two things are mutually exclusive? It's possible to both truly like someone and gain personally from them as well.

Your funny. Getting your panties all in a twist over someone else's relationship. They have to live with their choices, not you.

Maybe it's time to take up a hobby.
It's possible to truly like someone and gain personally simultaneously. Nothing wrong with that but that's not what I'm discussing. I'm discussing the "being in a relationship for the sake of personal gain" and I used those two as an example. Not so we can dissect their relationship.


Your dissecting their relationship and interpreting it in a way that supports your viewpoint. So what's the difference??


Theirs is one of many I've seen. What I'm saying is this newfound dynamic that's become a norm is bothersome to me, especially when one comes out of a personal gain kind of relationship and then expects the same of their next partner. It starts a cycle of using another.

This is as clear as I'm going to get in my message and you can't comprehend this, then may God be with you.


I hear what your saying. Hear me. This is NOT a 'newfound dynamic'.

People have been using each other since the beginning of time. All you can do is be accountable for your own actions and cut the users out as soon as you identify them. Everything else is an exercise in futility.

Ok, I'll leave you to your rant space now.
It's a newfound dynamic because now you're not in a predicament to use someone for per say financial gain. Before women were homemakers and couldn't work and so it was understandable to use or be with a man for financial provision. Now a woman has no excuse. Get a job and if you want more money, get a better job. Don't use a rich man to advance yourself.

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Again, that's YOUR mentality.

There are plenty of rich men out there looking for a woman to be a homemaker and mother and not a career woman. So its really whatever floats your boat.

As long as your on the same page with your partner and your choices don't hurt anyone I don't see how its any one else's concern.
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everyone should be entitled to healthcare and clean water. we should give more fucks about climate change instead of instagram follower count.



😢 If only people cared more about not littering & being considerate, but the population is more into the materialistic things.
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I've read a few studies about public spaces and how people are less likely to vandalize and litter in spaces that are clean and cared for.

Something about sense of ownership and pride for your neighborhood.
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Write something that annoys you about the modern world.

I hate that most to all relationships nowadays is not about genuine care and admiration for the person you're with but rather about two parties just using each other for some gain. I wouldn't use sex since both parties receive sexual gratification. I'll give some examples to illustrate my point. I see an older below avg. looking woman who is financially stable dating a young very good looking guy who is not financially stable. From afar you're thinking he must like mature women for their wisdom/experience, but up close it's the financial perks he's receiving from her. Totally leeching off her financially. Just when you're feeling sorry for the older woman, you find out she's not so innocent. She has the perk of showing her young hot boy toy to other ladies, who wish they had him.

Then, you have an attractive woman using a below avg.looking male so he can foot the bill for her expenses. They call it "love" but up close everything they talk about goes back to money or mutual gains. No admiration, no care, no nothing for the other person past whatever they are gaining from the relationship.
What's wrong with that? Most relationships are about give and take. Seems like both parties are getting something out of the relationship that makes them happy.

Who are YOU to judge how someone chooses to live their life.
You're probably one of those people who use your partner for something and that's why you're promoting that garbage.

I'm actually someone who dates a person because I like them for the person they are. Since you missed the point of the thread, I'll simplify it for you. It's that I don't like that system or what society has become.


What am I promoting? Oh that's right, I'm pointing out that you shouldn't concern yourself with other people's choices and motivations.

All the evil that happens on the daily and your concerned with this bullshit. Smh.

Edit: of course I use my partner. Just as he uses me. Relationships are about an exchange, duh.
Stop generalizing and assuming that everyone uses their partner. Some have integrity and like the person for who they are: rich or poor, good looking or not.

I don't need you to point anything out to me especially when I'm not even doing what you think I'm doing.

You promote what you are. This post probably offends you because you're a user. I'm sharing my opinion or what bothers me. Why does it bother you? ? Truth ruffles feathers, doesn't it?


Interesting that you think I'm bothered or offended.

EVERYONE uses their partner. Relationships are a two way street. Whether its financial, physical, emotional, mental,...you are getting SOMETHING from them or else you wouldn't BE WITH them to begin with.

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Companionship is a need and in our nature. Everyone wants a partner that cares for them for who they are (personality traits) and not what they have external of them (money or for their looks or for replacing someone else etc.). Care is making someone feel loved or cherished for who they are. Naturally, when you love someone for who they are, you crave their presence as a person. That is not using. I don't need them, but I want them for who they are. My context is very clear on the usage of the term "use". What sets it apart is needing someone vs. wanting them. If you are with a person because you need them, that's using. If you don't need them, but want them, that's not using. That's genuine love.

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Write something that annoys you about the modern world.

I hate that most to all relationships nowadays is not about genuine care and admiration for the person you're with but rather about two parties just using each other for some gain. I wouldn't use sex since both parties receive sexual gratification. I'll give some examples to illustrate my point. I see an older below avg. looking woman who is financially stable dating a young very good looking guy who is not financially stable. From afar you're thinking he must like mature women for their wisdom/experience, but up close it's the financial perks he's receiving from her. Totally leeching off her financially. Just when you're feeling sorry for the older woman, you find out she's not so innocent. She has the perk of showing her young hot boy toy to other ladies, who wish they had him.

Then, you have an attractive woman using a below avg.looking male so he can foot the bill for her expenses. They call it "love" but up close everything they talk about goes back to money or mutual gains. No admiration, no care, no nothing for the other person past whatever they are gaining from the relationship.
What's wrong with that? Most relationships are about give and take. Seems like both parties are getting something out of the relationship that makes them happy.

Who are YOU to judge how someone chooses to live their life.
You're probably one of those people who use your partner for something and that's why you're promoting that garbage.

I'm actually someone who dates a person because I like them for the person they are. Since you missed the point of the thread, I'll simplify it for you. It's that I don't like that system or what society has become.


What am I promoting? Oh that's right, I'm pointing out that you shouldn't concern yourself with other people's choices and motivations.

All the evil that happens on the daily and your concerned with this bullshit. Smh.

Edit: of course I use my partner. Just as he uses me. Relationships are about an exchange, duh.
Stop generalizing and assuming that everyone uses their partner. Some have integrity and like the person for who they are: rich or poor, good looking or not.

I don't need you to point anything out to me especially when I'm not even doing what you think I'm doing.

You promote what you are. This post probably offends you because you're a user. I'm sharing my opinion or what bothers me. Why does it bother you? ? Truth ruffles feathers, doesn't it?


Interesting that you think I'm bothered or offended.

EVERYONE uses their partner. Relationships are a two way street. Whether its financial, physical, emotional, mental,...you are getting SOMETHING from them or else you wouldn't BE WITH them to begin with.


Companionship is a need and in our nature. Everyone wants a partner that cares for them for who they are (personality traits) and not what they have external of them (money or for their looks or for replacing someone else etc.). Care is making someone feel loved or cherished for who they are. Naturally, when you love someone for who they are, you crave their presence as a person. That is not using. I don't need them, but I want them for who they are. My context is very clear on the usage of the term "use". What sets it apart is needing someone vs. wanting them. If you are with a person because you need them, that's using. If you don't need them, but want them, that's not using. That's genuine love.



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Your definition of genuine love is not a universal.

But these interactions have taught me your incapable of acknowledging that your moral code is unique to you and you alone.

Good luck with finding everything you want ?
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Write something that annoys you about the modern world.

I hate that most to all relationships nowadays is not about genuine care and admiration for the person you're with but rather about two parties just using each other for some gain. I wouldn't use sex since both parties receive sexual gratification. I'll give some examples to illustrate my point. I see an older below avg. looking woman who is financially stable dating a young very good looking guy who is not financially stable. From afar you're thinking he must like mature women for their wisdom/experience, but up close it's the financial perks he's receiving from her. Totally leeching off her financially. Just when you're feeling sorry for the older woman, you find out she's not so innocent. She has the perk of showing her young hot boy toy to other ladies, who wish they had him.

Then, you have an attractive woman using a below avg.looking male so he can foot the bill for her expenses. They call it "love" but up close everything they talk about goes back to money or mutual gains. No admiration, no care, no nothing for the other person past whatever they are gaining from the relationship.
How you know all that?




These people I mentioned I know them very closely. The sad part is one of them shamelessly admitted to the thing that makes them dependent on their partner yet thinks their partner truly loves them, when in reality they are also using them for something else.




How does all that apply to what's wrong with relationships in general, in society?


Being in a relationship for a personal gain, by choice, as opposed to truly liking the person isn't anything wrong?


So in your mind those two things are mutually exclusive? It's possible to both truly like someone and gain personally from them as well.

Your funny. Getting your panties all in a twist over someone else's relationship. They have to live with their choices, not you.

Maybe it's time to take up a hobby.
It's possible to truly like someone and gain personally simultaneously. Nothing wrong with that but that's not what I'm discussing. I'm discussing the "being in a relationship for the sake of personal gain" and I used those two as an example. Not so we can dissect their relationship.


Your dissecting their relationship and interpreting it in a way that supports your viewpoint. So what's the difference??


Theirs is one of many I've seen. What I'm saying is this newfound dynamic that's become a norm is bothersome to me, especially when one comes out of a personal gain kind of relationship and then expects the same of their next partner. It starts a cycle of using another.

This is as clear as I'm going to get in my message and you can't comprehend this, then may God be with you.


I hear what your saying. Hear me. This is NOT a 'newfound dynamic'.

People have been using each other since the beginning of time. All you can do is be accountable for your own actions and cut the users out as soon as you identify them. Everything else is an exercise in futility.

Ok, I'll leave you to your rant space now.
It's a newfound dynamic because now you're not in a predicament to use someone for per say financial gain. Before women were homemakers and couldn't work and so it was understandable to use or be with a man for financial provision. Now a woman has no excuse. Get a job and if you want more money, get a better job. Don't use a rich man to advance yourself.



Again, that's YOUR mentality.

There are plenty of rich men out there looking for a woman to be a homemaker and mother and not a career woman. So its really whatever floats your boat.

As long as your on the same page with your partner and your choices don't hurt anyone I don't see how its any one else's concern.

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What you described there is preference. That's not what I'm talking about. But I'll show you what I'm talking about again by turning that example. If a man seeks a homemaker for per say the inheritance she's bringing into the marriage, then he didn't pick her for who she is as a person.

Anyway, you either understand my point or you don't. I don't think you do, but I definitely get your point which is based on the semantics of the word "use".

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Write something that annoys you about the modern world.

I hate that most to all relationships nowadays is not about genuine care and admiration for the person you're with but rather about two parties just using each other for some gain. I wouldn't use sex since both parties receive sexual gratification. I'll give some examples to illustrate my point. I see an older below avg. looking woman who is financially stable dating a young very good looking guy who is not financially stable. From afar you're thinking he must like mature women for their wisdom/experience, but up close it's the financial perks he's receiving from her. Totally leeching off her financially. Just when you're feeling sorry for the older woman, you find out she's not so innocent. She has the perk of showing her young hot boy toy to other ladies, who wish they had him.

Then, you have an attractive woman using a below avg.looking male so he can foot the bill for her expenses. They call it "love" but up close everything they talk about goes back to money or mutual gains. No admiration, no care, no nothing for the other person past whatever they are gaining from the relationship.
How you know all that?




These people I mentioned I know them very closely. The sad part is one of them shamelessly admitted to the thing that makes them dependent on their partner yet thinks their partner truly loves them, when in reality they are also using them for something else.




How does all that apply to what's wrong with relationships in general, in society?


Being in a relationship for a personal gain, by choice, as opposed to truly liking the person isn't anything wrong?


So in your mind those two things are mutually exclusive? It's possible to both truly like someone and gain personally from them as well.

Your funny. Getting your panties all in a twist over someone else's relationship. They have to live with their choices, not you.

Maybe it's time to take up a hobby.
It's possible to truly like someone and gain personally simultaneously. Nothing wrong with that but that's not what I'm discussing. I'm discussing the "being in a relationship for the sake of personal gain" and I used those two as an example. Not so we can dissect their relationship.


Your dissecting their relationship and interpreting it in a way that supports your viewpoint. So what's the difference??


Theirs is one of many I've seen. What I'm saying is this newfound dynamic that's become a norm is bothersome to me, especially when one comes out of a personal gain kind of relationship and then expects the same of their next partner. It starts a cycle of using another.

This is as clear as I'm going to get in my message and you can't comprehend this, then may God be with you.


I hear what your saying. Hear me. This is NOT a 'newfound dynamic'.

People have been using each other since the beginning of time. All you can do is be accountable for your own actions and cut the users out as soon as you identify them. Everything else is an exercise in futility.

Ok, I'll leave you to your rant space now.
It's a newfound dynamic because now you're not in a predicament to use someone for per say financial gain. Before women were homemakers and couldn't work and so it was understandable to use or be with a man for financial provision. Now a woman has no excuse. Get a job and if you want more money, get a better job. Don't use a rich man to advance yourself.



Again, that's YOUR mentality.

There are plenty of rich men out there looking for a woman to be a homemaker and mother and not a career woman. So its really whatever floats your boat.

As long as your on the same page with your partner and your choices don't hurt anyone I don't see how its any one else's concern.


What you described there is preference. That's not what I'm talking about. But I'll show you what I'm talking about again by turning that example. If a man seeks a homemaker for per say the inheritance she's bringing into the marriage, then he didn't pick her for who she is as a person.

Anyway, you either understand my point or you don't. I don't think you do, but I definitely get your point which is based on the semantics of the word "use".

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Her inheritance is part of who she is as a person. Just like a rich mans wealth is part of his identity. Or a beautiful woman's looks is part of hers.

For someone who claims to reject the superficial you sure do seem fixated on it...
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Write something that annoys you about the modern world.

I hate that most to all relationships nowadays is not about genuine care and admiration for the person you're with but rather about two parties just using each other for some gain. I wouldn't use sex since both parties receive sexual gratification. I'll give some examples to illustrate my point. I see an older below avg. looking woman who is financially stable dating a young very good looking guy who is not financially stable. From afar you're thinking he must like mature women for their wisdom/experience, but up close it's the financial perks he's receiving from her. Totally leeching off her financially. Just when you're feeling sorry for the older woman, you find out she's not so innocent. She has the perk of showing her young hot boy toy to other ladies, who wish they had him.

Then, you have an attractive woman using a below avg.looking male so he can foot the bill for her expenses. They call it "love" but up close everything they talk about goes back to money or mutual gains. No admiration, no care, no nothing for the other person past whatever they are gaining from the relationship.
What's wrong with that? Most relationships are about give and take. Seems like both parties are getting something out of the relationship that makes them happy.

Who are YOU to judge how someone chooses to live their life.
You're probably one of those people who use your partner for something and that's why you're promoting that garbage.

I'm actually someone who dates a person because I like them for the person they are. Since you missed the point of the thread, I'll simplify it for you. It's that I don't like that system or what society has become.


What am I promoting? Oh that's right, I'm pointing out that you shouldn't concern yourself with other people's choices and motivations.

All the evil that happens on the daily and your concerned with this bullshit. Smh.

Edit: of course I use my partner. Just as he uses me. Relationships are about an exchange, duh.
Stop generalizing and assuming that everyone uses their partner. Some have integrity and like the person for who they are: rich or poor, good looking or not.

I don't need you to point anything out to me especially when I'm not even doing what you think I'm doing.

You promote what you are. This post probably offends you because you're a user. I'm sharing my opinion or what bothers me. Why does it bother you? ? Truth ruffles feathers, doesn't it?


Interesting that you think I'm bothered or offended.

EVERYONE uses their partner. Relationships are a two way street. Whether its financial, physical, emotional, mental,...you are getting SOMETHING from them or else you wouldn't BE WITH them to begin with.


Companionship is a need and in our nature. Everyone wants a partner that cares for them for who they are (personality traits) and not what they have external of them (money or for their looks or for replacing someone else etc.). Care is making someone feel loved or cherished for who they are. Naturally, when you love someone for who they are, you crave their presence as a person. That is not using. I don't need them, but I want them for who they are. My context is very clear on the usage of the term "use". What sets it apart is needing someone vs. wanting them. If you are with a person because you need them, that's using. If you don't need them, but want them, that's not using. That's genuine love.





Your definition of genuine love is not a universal.

But these interactions have taught me your incapable of acknowledging that your moral code is unique to you and you alone.

Good luck with finding everything you want ?

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I never said my perception of genuine love is universal nor would I claim such a ridiculous thing. I also don't claim that my moral code is universal and not unique to me. I'm sharing the notion we perceive as hopeless romanticism, which I personally believe in, vs. how people observe love.



I'm sharing my definition/perception as well as what I disagree with. You certainly don't have to agree with me.

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Firstly the over population of human numbers and industry. I know there are a handful of people who believe there is enough room, food, and clean water for all humans, which are mostly the same people who believe global warming doesn't exist. Even though hundreds of scientific studies over the last few decades have proven that we do in fact have an environmental issue on our hands. Still people will refuse to believe that, because no one wants to hear it and as long as the sky is blue and gas is in the vehicle to get to work tomorrow all is good in the world.

That or they just don't care and rather leave these issues to the future generations, when its too late to reverse the damages. I also don't particularly blame people, because in the end we are all apart of the same system. When you have to focus on work, family, and living in a stable environment you don't really have time to think about the damages living in these types of life style s play on the earth. Its really sad because as a living species we are about to face what I call the great filter. This filter will decide if humans are capable of existing and progressing farther into the future as a life form. At this rate its not looking too good.

Once humans began to think with their minds more then they feel with their hearts marked the beginning of the end.
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Write something that annoys you about the modern world.

I hate that most to all relationships nowadays is not about genuine care and admiration for the person you're with but rather about two parties just using each other for some gain. I wouldn't use sex since both parties receive sexual gratification. I'll give some examples to illustrate my point. I see an older below avg. looking woman who is financially stable dating a young very good looking guy who is not financially stable. From afar you're thinking he must like mature women for their wisdom/experience, but up close it's the financial perks he's receiving from her. Totally leeching off her financially. Just when you're feeling sorry for the older woman, you find out she's not so innocent. She has the perk of showing her young hot boy toy to other ladies, who wish they had him.

Then, you have an attractive woman using a below avg.looking male so he can foot the bill for her expenses. They call it "love" but up close everything they talk about goes back to money or mutual gains. No admiration, no care, no nothing for the other person past whatever they are gaining from the relationship.
How you know all that?




These people I mentioned I know them very closely. The sad part is one of them shamelessly admitted to the thing that makes them dependent on their partner yet thinks their partner truly loves them, when in reality they are also using them for something else.




How does all that apply to what's wrong with relationships in general, in society?


Being in a relationship for a personal gain, by choice, as opposed to truly liking the person isn't anything wrong?


So in your mind those two things are mutually exclusive? It's possible to both truly like someone and gain personally from them as well.

Your funny. Getting your panties all in a twist over someone else's relationship. They have to live with their choices, not you.

Maybe it's time to take up a hobby.
It's possible to truly like someone and gain personally simultaneously. Nothing wrong with that but that's not what I'm discussing. I'm discussing the "being in a relationship for the sake of personal gain" and I used those two as an example. Not so we can dissect their relationship.


Your dissecting their relationship and interpreting it in a way that supports your viewpoint. So what's the difference??


Theirs is one of many I've seen. What I'm saying is this newfound dynamic that's become a norm is bothersome to me, especially when one comes out of a personal gain kind of relationship and then expects the same of their next partner. It starts a cycle of using another.

This is as clear as I'm going to get in my message and you can't comprehend this, then may God be with you.


I hear what your saying. Hear me. This is NOT a 'newfound dynamic'.

People have been using each other since the beginning of time. All you can do is be accountable for your own actions and cut the users out as soon as you identify them. Everything else is an exercise in futility.

Ok, I'll leave you to your rant space now.
It's a newfound dynamic because now you're not in a predicament to use someone for per say financial gain. Before women were homemakers and couldn't work and so it was understandable to use or be with a man for financial provision. Now a woman has no excuse. Get a job and if you want more money, get a better job. Don't use a rich man to advance yourself.



Again, that's YOUR mentality.

There are plenty of rich men out there looking for a woman to be a homemaker and mother and not a career woman. So its really whatever floats your boat.

As long as your on the same page with your partner and your choices don't hurt anyone I don't see how its any one else's concern.


What you described there is preference. That's not what I'm talking about. But I'll show you what I'm talking about again by turning that example. If a man seeks a homemaker for per say the inheritance she's bringing into the marriage, then he didn't pick her for who she is as a person.

Anyway, you either understand my point or you don't. I don't think you do, but I definitely get your point which is based on the semantics of the word "use".


Her inheritance is part of who she is as a person. Just like a rich mans wealth is part of his identity. Or a beautiful woman's looks is part of hers.

For someone who claims to reject the superficial you sure do seem fixated on it...
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I'm defining superficiality, not fixated on it. Imagine finding out that your partner is solely with you because you elevate his status amongst his friends or make them envious.

Imagine discovering that your wife/hubster is only with you in your fairweather prosperous days. When you lose your wealth, they leave you as well.

Imagine your partner leaving you when you fall sick or become less beautiful for an upgraded younger chick.

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Write something that annoys you about the modern world.

I hate that most to all relationships nowadays is not about genuine care and admiration for the person you're with but rather about two parties just using each other for some gain. I wouldn't use sex since both parties receive sexual gratification. I'll give some examples to illustrate my point. I see an older below avg. looking woman who is financially stable dating a young very good looking guy who is not financially stable. From afar you're thinking he must like mature women for their wisdom/experience, but up close it's the financial perks he's receiving from her. Totally leeching off her financially. Just when you're feeling sorry for the older woman, you find out she's not so innocent. She has the perk of showing her young hot boy toy to other ladies, who wish they had him.

Then, you have an attractive woman using a below avg.looking male so he can foot the bill for her expenses. They call it "love" but up close everything they talk about goes back to money or mutual gains. No admiration, no care, no nothing for the other person past whatever they are gaining from the relationship.
How you know all that?




These people I mentioned I know them very closely. The sad part is one of them shamelessly admitted to the thing that makes them dependent on their partner yet thinks their partner truly loves them, when in reality they are also using them for something else.




How does all that apply to what's wrong with relationships in general, in society?


Being in a relationship for a personal gain, by choice, as opposed to truly liking the person isn't anything wrong?


So in your mind those two things are mutually exclusive? It's possible to both truly like someone and gain personally from them as well.

Your funny. Getting your panties all in a twist over someone else's relationship. They have to live with their choices, not you.

Maybe it's time to take up a hobby.
It's possible to truly like someone and gain personally simultaneously. Nothing wrong with that but that's not what I'm discussing. I'm discussing the "being in a relationship for the sake of personal gain" and I used those two as an example. Not so we can dissect their relationship.


Your dissecting their relationship and interpreting it in a way that supports your viewpoint. So what's the difference??


Theirs is one of many I've seen. What I'm saying is this newfound dynamic that's become a norm is bothersome to me, especially when one comes out of a personal gain kind of relationship and then expects the same of their next partner. It starts a cycle of using another.

This is as clear as I'm going to get in my message and you can't comprehend this, then may God be with you.


I hear what your saying. Hear me. This is NOT a 'newfound dynamic'.

People have been using each other since the beginning of time. All you can do is be accountable for your own actions and cut the users out as soon as you identify them. Everything else is an exercise in futility.

Ok, I'll leave you to your rant space now.
It's a newfound dynamic because now you're not in a predicament to use someone for per say financial gain. Before women were homemakers and couldn't work and so it was understandable to use or be with a man for financial provision. Now a woman has no excuse. Get a job and if you want more money, get a better job. Don't use a rich man to advance yourself.



Again, that's YOUR mentality.

There are plenty of rich men out there looking for a woman to be a homemaker and mother and not a career woman. So its really whatever floats your boat.

As long as your on the same page with your partner and your choices don't hurt anyone I don't see how its any one else's concern.


What you described there is preference. That's not what I'm talking about. But I'll show you what I'm talking about again by turning that example. If a man seeks a homemaker for per say the inheritance she's bringing into the marriage, then he didn't pick her for who she is as a person.

Anyway, you either understand my point or you don't. I don't think you do, but I definitely get your point which is based on the semantics of the word "use".


Her inheritance is part of who she is as a person. Just like a rich mans wealth is part of his identity. Or a beautiful woman's looks is part of hers.

For someone who claims to reject the superficial you sure do seem fixated on it...
I'm defining superficiality, not fixated on it. Imagine finding out that your partner is solely with you because you elevate his status amongst his friends or make them envious.

Imagine discovering that your wife/hubster is only with you in your fairweather prosperous days. When you lose your wealth, they leave you as well.

Imagine your partner leaving you when you fall sick or become less beautiful for an upgraded younger chick.

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What your describing happens on the daily. Human nature is fickle.

All you can do to protect yourself is know the person as much as possible before you go all in with your heart and finances to make sure they are with you for the right reasons. And a pre-nup is a must so that if you've been deceived by their acting your assets are protected.