ChocolateHazelnut
@ChocolateHazelnut
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Ladies do you ask guys out?
Posted by UnicornSagHahaha sounds good. I like it too when it happens.... Of course.
I never did.Unless guy shows interest first I'm not going for it. I had plenty of men attention over time any way so never felt the need to initiate things lol they do it on their own all the time and I get to chose who I like lol and don't need to think about rejection etc so win-win situation lol
The funny thing is in the text above I present myself as a shy girl who wants to ask guys out.... That alone is contradictory enough haha
No. Too shy.
No one seems really excited with the idea xD.
I don't take it really seriously.... I mean I would say it in a friendly/flirty teasing somekind of way Not such a big of deal.
The two most important reasons as I said is 1.i want to choose too and 2. I can't wait for them to do it cause they dont
I don't take it really seriously.... I mean I would say it in a friendly/flirty teasing somekind of way Not such a big of deal.
The two most important reasons as I said is 1.i want to choose too and 2. I can't wait for them to do it cause they dont
I've done it, but I've gotten to know the men a bit first, so it wasn't a cold call.
My mother did it with a man she was interested in. He'll always remember that, he told me. It isn't common, particularly with people from certain generations. He thought that she was very brave to take the risk and he respected her for it. They're married now.
I think it's only right for women to take the risk sometimes instead of waiting for men to.
My mother did it with a man she was interested in. He'll always remember that, he told me. It isn't common, particularly with people from certain generations. He thought that she was very brave to take the risk and he respected her for it. They're married now.
I think it's only right for women to take the risk sometimes instead of waiting for men to.
Posted by UnicornSagMy experience with online dating is that everyone wants casual sex there.... :p, which I don't.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutyes it is lol well if you're shy you can always do online dating, it takes good amount of pressure and give you more time to get to know the person before you go out with them and they may start to initiate more on their own anyway 🙂Posted by UnicornSagHahaha sounds good. I like it too when it happens.... Of course.
I never did.Unless guy shows interest first I'm not going for it. I had plenty of men attention over time any way so never felt the need to initiate things lol they do it on their own all the time and I get to chose who I like lol and don't need to think about rejection etc so win-win situation lol
The funny thing is in the text above I present myself as a shy girl who wants to ask guys out.... That alone is contradictory enough hahaclick to expand
Posted by CopperDove
I've done it, but I've gotten to know the men a bit first, so it wasn't a cold call.
My mother did it with a man she was interested in. He'll always remember that, he told me. It isn't common, particularly with people from certain generations. He thought that she was very brave to take the risk and he respected her for it. They're married now.
I think it's only right for women to take the risk sometimes instead of waiting for men to.
That's exactly what I am thinking about!!!!! 😄
We need to act if we are going to get what we want. And we broaden our choices too.
The time I asked a boy out was in middle school.
🤔🤔 I saw his fb pic the other day and I cringe.
🤔🤔 I saw his fb pic the other day and I cringe.
Posted by ChocolateHazelnutExactly! Sure, it can be a little scary because rejection is possible, but I'm willing to take that risk if I'm really interested. No way am I going to pass up the opportunity.Posted by CopperDove
I've done it, but I've gotten to know the men a bit first, so it wasn't a cold call.
My mother did it with a man she was interested in. He'll always remember that, he told me. It isn't common, particularly with people from certain generations. He thought that she was very brave to take the risk and he respected her for it. They're married now.
I think it's only right for women to take the risk sometimes instead of waiting for men to.
That's exactly what I am thinking about!!!!! 😄
We need to act if we are going to get what we want. And we broaden our choices too.click to expand
No I don’t ask guys out .. don’t see anything wrong with it though .. guy has to come to me
Posted by LePetitFiskHaha haha
Dey scared dat if they ask the dude out theyll have to split tht check and shit.
Posted by CopperDoveRejection is a part of life and nothing personal really.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutExactly! Sure, it can be a little scary because rejection is possible, but I'm willing to take that risk if I'm really interested. No way am I going to pass up the opportunity.Posted by CopperDove
I've done it, but I've gotten to know the men a bit first, so it wasn't a cold call.
My mother did it with a man she was interested in. He'll always remember that, he told me. It isn't common, particularly with people from certain generations. He thought that she was very brave to take the risk and he respected her for it. They're married now.
I think it's only right for women to take the risk sometimes instead of waiting for men to.
That's exactly what I am thinking about!!!!! 😄
We need to act if we are going to get what we want. And we broaden our choices too.
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Posted by Lala1393Haha haha it's OK.
Never.
He'd better beg.
Posted by ChocolateHazelnutExactly. It hurts at first, but you know it's a no so after a bit of recovery you can put your energy elsewhere.Posted by CopperDoveRejection is a part of life and nothing personal really.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutExactly! Sure, it can be a little scary because rejection is possible, but I'm willing to take that risk if I'm really interested. No way am I going to pass up the opportunity.Posted by CopperDove
I've done it, but I've gotten to know the men a bit first, so it wasn't a cold call.
My mother did it with a man she was interested in. He'll always remember that, he told me. It isn't common, particularly with people from certain generations. He thought that she was very brave to take the risk and he respected her for it. They're married now.
I think it's only right for women to take the risk sometimes instead of waiting for men to.
That's exactly what I am thinking about!!!!! 😄
We need to act if we are going to get what we want. And we broaden our choices too.
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Posted by GC04men don't even know how to write hinds
Hullllzzzz no.
I’ll give lots of hints though.
I applaud you if you choose to do this. From a man's perspective, a woman who is confident enough to ask a guy out will always separate herself from the crowd. She may scare off some insecure guys, but she'll be able to sift through them faster too. There's nothing sexier than a woman who confidently goes after what she wants. If the guy isn't into you, oh well, on to the next.
Yes, i can.
Sometimes someone catches your attention and you just want to bond really, over a drink?
Nothing more, if he feels attracted to me and wants more then ok, if he doesn’t we stay good friends. Idk!
Sometimes someone catches your attention and you just want to bond really, over a drink?
Nothing more, if he feels attracted to me and wants more then ok, if he doesn’t we stay good friends. Idk!
Posted by GC04doesn't matter, we don't get hinds 😢Posted by TheSagLol wut? 😂Posted by GC04men don't even know how to write hinds
Hullllzzzz no.
I’ll give lots of hints though.
I’m a Leo Venus, I know how to get a point across when it comes to these things.click to expand
Posted by ChuckcemThat's how I think of it too. What's the whole point sitting on the side and wait to get picked up? :p
I applaud you if you choose to do this. From a man's perspective, a woman who is confident enough to ask a guy out will always separate herself from the crowd. She may scare off some insecure guys, but she'll be able to sift through them faster too. There's nothing sexier than a woman who confidently goes after what she wants. If the guy isn't into you, oh well, on to the next.
My purpose is not to blame women who don't like to do that. My point is to encourage one's who would like to. Don't get confused please.
Posted by GC04if I knew they liked me I would get those hinds, wouldn't I? 😢Posted by TheSagDon’t tell me your that clueless type...that has a bunch of girls that like him, but he doesn’t even realize it??Posted by GC04doesn't matter, we don't get hinds 😢Posted by TheSagLol wut? 😂Posted by GC04men don't even know how to write hinds
Hullllzzzz no.
I’ll give lots of hints though.
I’m a Leo Venus, I know how to get a point across when it comes to these things.click to expand
I think I am listening to some Kelly Clackson or Tailor Swifft songs. They know so much about love and stuff..
Posted by KoniuchaaPretty cool. That's what I did with the first guy I dated... Except the fact that I pushed him a bit to do what I want..... :p
Well I guess I asked my boyfriend out. I asked him if he wanted to eat lunch with me the first day we started talking. Then after we had been talking and hanging out, I made a comment about him being my boyfriend and that was that
Posted by SeleukosGuys women are still sensitive. Also its is unfair to tell a woman she can not communicate her interest. A lot of women are perfectly capable of it and it's a very enjoyable and playful game.Posted by GC04I see or at least I think I see.Posted by SeleukosJust go away 😞😔Posted by GC04How is that being mean?Posted by SeleukosWhy you being mean? 😭Posted by GC04Still he might just ignore it if he has any dignity.Posted by TheSagLol wut? 😂Posted by GC04men don't even know how to write hinds
Hullllzzzz no.
I’ll give lots of hints though.
I’m a Leo Venus, I know how to get a point across when it comes to these things.
You took it personaly didn't you?
I wasn't talking about you specifically but in general.
If a women would just give "hints" but never do anything that goey beyond that, I think a man should ignore her to maintain his dignity.
Why? Well if you want something and are interested in him as a person you should be able to go up to him and let him know that.
The usual game that women play is nothing more than a game of retardation.
It becomes even more apparent whenever a man reverses the roles and acts the way a women would in his place. That's when women have a tendency to go completly nuts, aggressive and hurting which highlights how inhuman such a behaviour is.
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I am actually not very capable of it and flirting in general and that's why I suggest this idea. We should still let women be woman and act feminine and love them for that. As long as they learn to reject in a caring and gentle way too.
Posted by GC04I will, thank you! 😢Posted by TheSagYup, they know a lot about that love that has you crying in the bed at night! 😂😂😂Posted by GC04if I knew they liked me I would get those hinds, wouldn't I? 😢Posted by TheSagDon’t tell me your that clueless type...that has a bunch of girls that like him, but he doesn’t even realize it??Posted by GC04doesn't matter, we don't get hinds 😢Posted by TheSagLol wut? 😂Posted by GC04men don't even know how to write hinds
Hullllzzzz no.
I’ll give lots of hints though.
I’m a Leo Venus, I know how to get a point across when it comes to these things.
I think I am listening to some Kelly Clackson or Tailor Swifft songs. They know so much about love and stuff..
Maybe throw in some Selena Gomez ❤️👌🏼
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Posted by SeleukosI totally get what you say here . Everybody had his /her own definition of femininity and masculinity even though norms and society affect that largely. The point is men and women a lot of times have different perception of things in a conversation. An example is women communicate to share and be understood and listened and men in general seek to solve a problem in everything a woman tells them and sounds like a complaint.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutI said nothing about her abilities to communicate. That is completly besides the point I was trying to make.Posted by SeleukosGuys women are still sensitive. Also its is unfair to tell a woman she can not communicate her interest. A lot of women are perfectly capable of it and it's a very enjoyable and playful game.Posted by GC04I see or at least I think I see.Posted by SeleukosJust go away 😞😔Posted by GC04How is that being mean?Posted by SeleukosWhy you being mean? 😭Posted by GC04Still he might just ignore it if he has any dignity.Posted by TheSagLol wut? 😂Posted by GC04men don't even know how to write hinds
Hullllzzzz no.
I’ll give lots of hints though.
I’m a Leo Venus, I know how to get a point across when it comes to these things.
You took it personaly didn't you?
I wasn't talking about you specifically but in general.
If a women would just give "hints" but never do anything that goey beyond that, I think a man should ignore her to maintain his dignity.
Why? Well if you want something and are interested in him as a person you should be able to go up to him and let him know that.
The usual game that women play is nothing more than a game of retardation.
It becomes even more apparent whenever a man reverses the roles and acts the way a women would in his place. That's when women have a tendency to go completly nuts, aggressive and hurting which highlights how inhuman such a behaviour is.
I am actually not very capable of it and flirting in general and that's why I suggest this idea. We should still let women be woman and act feminine and love them for that. As long as they learn to reject in a caring and gentle way too.
It doesn't matter if she can communicate or not, it's the very notion that stands behind this behaviour, but yes women often are way better at communication.
The let women be feminine is a very shady argument, at best.
Are women who take a more direct approach to love and flirting less feminie now?
If yes, that's downright sexist.
What this notion really is about is control and power. The traditional patterns allow to retreat into ambiguity whenever she pleases, claiming the man misunderstood her while he has to expose himself completly and taking all the risks.
This is exactly what the gender equality movement was fighting against.
If the women is just shy and it's part of her character that would be completly fine as it woulld b a matter of charactzer and not gender.
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Maybe the girl above did actually got that personally. It's like telling to a man that he can't use his sex appeal to attract women. They are actually to two different things. Flirt/sex appeal and initiation.
Women are taught and raised to not initiate contact and carry a whole lot of restrictive and prideful, ego driven ideas about men and relationships. Like women are queens and stuff lol.
If we don't examine these ideas and beliefs though, we can't actually expect them to change on their own.
Posted by SeleukosThanks I agree. You need to be patient for that change cause it's not going to happen overnight and we all know it. Plus women feel unique and nice when men do everything the human mind can think to show them they are one of a kind and simply perfect while he has drop his ego to 0 so they don't actually want to change that.Then women don't like the man who does that too cause he is not man enough if he is running behind a woman. Of course we are nice and respect each other and show interest and make our partner or interest feel unique and loved. But this happens from both sides and has logical limits too.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutI completly agree with that. That's why I'm always jumping into this topic again and again despite knowing how bad and agressive it might make me look.Posted by SeleukosI totally get what you say here . Everybody had his /her own definition of femininity and masculinity even though norms and society affect that largely. The point is men and women a lot of times have different perception of things in a conversation. An example is women communicate to share and be understood and listened and men in general seek to solve a problem in everything a woman tells them and sounds like a complaint.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutI said nothing about her abilities to communicate. That is completly besides the point I was trying to make.Posted by SeleukosGuys women are still sensitive. Also its is unfair to tell a woman she can not communicate her interest. A lot of women are perfectly capable of it and it's a very enjoyable and playful game.Posted by GC04I see or at least I think I see.Posted by SeleukosJust go away 😞😔Posted by GC04How is that being mean?Posted by SeleukosWhy you being mean? 😭Posted by GC04Still he might just ignore it if he has any dignity.Posted by TheSagLol wut? 😂Posted by GC04men don't even know how to write hinds
Hullllzzzz no.
I’ll give lots of hints though.
I’m a Leo Venus, I know how to get a point across when it comes to these things.
You took it personaly didn't you?
I wasn't talking about you specifically but in general.
If a women would just give "hints" but never do anything that goey beyond that, I think a man should ignore her to maintain his dignity.
Why? Well if you want something and are interested in him as a person you should be able to go up to him and let him know that.
The usual game that women play is nothing more than a game of retardation.
It becomes even more apparent whenever a man reverses the roles and acts the way a women would in his place. That's when women have a tendency to go completly nuts, aggressive and hurting which highlights how inhuman such a behaviour is.
I am actually not very capable of it and flirting in general and that's why I suggest this idea. We should still let women be woman and act feminine and love them for that. As long as they learn to reject in a caring and gentle way too.
It doesn't matter if she can communicate or not, it's the very notion that stands behind this behaviour, but yes women often are way better at communication.
The let women be feminine is a very shady argument, at best.
Are women who take a more direct approach to love and flirting less feminie now?
If yes, that's downright sexist.
What this notion really is about is control and power. The traditional patterns allow to retreat into ambiguity whenever she pleases, claiming the man misunderstood her while he has to expose himself completly and taking all the risks.
This is exactly what the gender equality movement was fighting against.
If the women is just shy and it's part of her character that would be completly fine as it woulld b a matter of charactzer and not gender.
Maybe the girl above did actually got that personally. It's like telling to a man that he can't use his sex appeal to attract women. They are actually to two different things. Flirt/sex appeal and initiation.
Women are taught and raised to not initiate contact and carry a whole lot of restrictive and prideful, ego driven ideas about men and relationships. Like women are queens and stuff lol.
If we don't examine these ideas and beliefs though, we can't actually expect them to change on their own.
That's why I explicitly said it is not personal.
it just really bugs me that we fight racism and sexism but completly turn a blind toward a matter that is so important to a stable society as a whole but completly ingore that the machanics of sexism and racism are very much completly prevalent there.
While doing a bit of reseach about the Lilith placement I found a notion I found very beautiful and fitting in this context.
Paraphrasing:
Lilith doesn't fight the traditional man out of hate but out of love. She wants men to be as free as women so that love can flow freely among equals. A strong man always needs a strong women. He can't want anything less.
I'm fighting for nothing less (Lilith in Scorpio).
The traditional attitude can also create a lot of very practical problems. If the women is a shy, caring and sweet one she is more likely to end up with the player asshole type if we maintain this structure as it is harder to determine what kind of man he is if all kinds of men are supposed to act that way if they want to have a relationship.
I'm fully aware of how hard that might be since I as a man had to endure this kind of expectations my whole life while all women around are complaining that men are brave enough to just approach them.
I say that is very good. It shows that things are changing for the better. Men are becoming persons instead of just men. I wish women the same development.
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The whole point is that yes double standards exist. False and unhealthy expectations and ways of communicating and connect too.
People are single everywhere. Social Media propel the fairytale romance kind of relationships where the prince finds the queen and they live happily ever after. Soulmates theory. And all these weird stuff. People are misguided and feel bad for themselves for not getting what they want simply cause the go for it the wrong way.
A lot needs to change and hopefully it is going to happen sooner or later.
Posted by SeleukosPosted by ChocolateHazelnutWe are getting there , slowly but surely.Posted by SeleukosThanks I agree. You need to be patient for that change cause it's not going to happen overnight and we all know it. Plus women feel unique and nice when men do everything the human mind can think to show them they are one of a kind and simply perfect while he has drop his ego to 0 so they don't actually want to change that.Then women don't like the man who does that too cause he is not man enough if he is running behind a woman. Of course we are nice and respect each other and show interest and make our partner or interest feel unique and loved. But this happens from both sides and has logical limits too.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutI completly agree with that. That's why I'm always jumping into this topic again and again despite knowing how bad and agressive it might make me look.Posted by SeleukosI totally get what you say here . Everybody had his /her own definition of femininity and masculinity even though norms and society affect that largely. The point is men and women a lot of times have different perception of things in a conversation. An example is women communicate to share and be understood and listened and men in general seek to solve a problem in everything a woman tells them and sounds like a complaint.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutI said nothing about her abilities to communicate. That is completly besides the point I was trying to make.Posted by SeleukosGuys women are still sensitive. Also its is unfair to tell a woman she can not communicate her interest. A lot of women are perfectly capable of it and it's a very enjoyable and playful game.Posted by GC04I see or at least I think I see.Posted by SeleukosJust go away 😞😔Posted by GC04How is that being mean?Posted by SeleukosWhy you being mean? 😭Posted by GC04Still he might just ignore it if he has any dignity.Posted by TheSagLol wut? 😂Posted by GC04men don't even know how to write hinds
Hullllzzzz no.
I’ll give lots of hints though.
I’m a Leo Venus, I know how to get a point across when it comes to these things.
You took it personaly didn't you?
I wasn't talking about you specifically but in general.
If a women would just give "hints" but never do anything that goey beyond that, I think a man should ignore her to maintain his dignity.
Why? Well if you want something and are interested in him as a person you should be able to go up to him and let him know that.
The usual game that women play is nothing more than a game of retardation.
It becomes even more apparent whenever a man reverses the roles and acts the way a women would in his place. That's when women have a tendency to go completly nuts, aggressive and hurting which highlights how inhuman such a behaviour is.
I am actually not very capable of it and flirting in general and that's why I suggest this idea. We should still let women be woman and act feminine and love them for that. As long as they learn to reject in a caring and gentle way too.
It doesn't matter if she can communicate or not, it's the very notion that stands behind this behaviour, but yes women often are way better at communication.
The let women be feminine is a very shady argument, at best.
Are women who take a more direct approach to love and flirting less feminie now?
If yes, that's downright sexist.
What this notion really is about is control and power. The traditional patterns allow to retreat into ambiguity whenever she pleases, claiming the man misunderstood her while he has to expose himself completly and taking all the risks.
This is exactly what the gender equality movement was fighting against.
If the women is just shy and it's part of her character that would be completly fine as it woulld b a matter of charactzer and not gender.
Maybe the girl above did actually got that personally. It's like telling to a man that he can't use his sex appeal to attract women. They are actually to two different things. Flirt/sex appeal and initiation.
Women are taught and raised to not initiate contact and carry a whole lot of restrictive and prideful, ego driven ideas about men and relationships. Like women are queens and stuff lol.
If we don't examine these ideas and beliefs though, we can't actually expect them to change on their own.
That's why I explicitly said it is not personal.
it just really bugs me that we fight racism and sexism but completly turn a blind toward a matter that is so important to a stable society as a whole but completly ingore that the machanics of sexism and racism are very much completly prevalent there.
While doing a bit of reseach about the Lilith placement I found a notion I found very beautiful and fitting in this context.
Paraphrasing:
Lilith doesn't fight the traditional man out of hate but out of love. She wants men to be as free as women so that love can flow freely among equals. A strong man always needs a strong women. He can't want anything less.
I'm fighting for nothing less (Lilith in Scorpio).
The traditional attitude can also create a lot of very practical problems. If the women is a shy, caring and sweet one she is more likely to end up with the player asshole type if we maintain this structure as it is harder to determine what kind of man he is if all kinds of men are supposed to act that way if they want to have a relationship.
I'm fully aware of how hard that might be since I as a man had to endure this kind of expectations my whole life while all women around are complaining that men are brave enough to just approach them.
I say that is very good. It shows that things are changing for the better. Men are becoming persons instead of just men. I wish women the same development.
The whole point is that yes double standards exist. False and unhealthy expectations and ways of communicating and connect too.
People are single everywhere. Social Media propel the fairytale romance kind of relationships where the prince finds the queen and they live happily ever after. Soulmates theory. And all these weird stuff. People are misguided and feel bad for themselves for not getting what they want simply cause the go for it the wrong way.
A lot needs to change and hopefully it is going to happen sooner or later.
Just need to keep working on that topic.click to expand
Haha it's just 3 of us in this topic that are positive on this idea
Posted by ManInTheMoon
It's also totally got to do with math n' shiet.
There are two approaches to love—through the heart and through the head. Neither one seems to work very well alone, but together ... they still don't work too well. Nevertheless, there's probably a better chance of success if both are used. Upon thinking of past loves, someone who approaches romance through the heart is likely to bemoan lost opportunities and conclude that he or she will never again love as deeply. Someone who takes a more hard-headed approach may be interested in the following result in probability.
The model we'll consider assumes that our heroine—call her Myrtle—has reason to believe that she'll meet N potential spouses (spice?) during her "dating life." N could be two for some women, two hundred for others. The question Myrtle poses to herself is: When should I accept Mr. X and forgo the suitors who would come after him, some of whom may possibly be "better" than he? We'll assume she meets men sequentially, can judge the relative suitability for her of those she's met, and once she's rejected someone, he's gone forever.
The derivation of the best policy uses the idea of conditional probability (which we'll introduce in the next chapter) and a little calculus. The policy itself, though, is quite simple to describe. Call a suitor a heartthrob if he's better than all previous candidates. Myrtle should reject approximately the first 37 percent of the N candidates she's likely to meet, and then accept the first suitor after that (if any) who is a heartthrob.
For instance, suppose Myrtle isn't overly attractive and is likely to meet only four eligible suitors, and suppose further that these four men are equally likely to come to her in any of the twenty-four possible orderings (24 = 4 x 3 x 2 x 1).
Since 37 percent is between 25 percent and 50 percent, the policy is ambiguous here, but the two best strategies correspond to the following: (A) Pass up the first candidate (25 percent of N = 4) and accept the first heartthrob after that. (B) Pass up the first two candidates (50 percent of N = 4) and accept the first heartthrob after that. Strategy A will result in Myrtle's choosing the best suitor in eleven of the twenty-four instances, while strategy B will result in success in ten of the twenty-four instances.
The list of all such sequential orderings is below, with the number 1 representing, as before, the suitor Myrtle would most prefer, 2 her second choice, etc. Thus, the ordering 3 2 1 4 indicates that she meets her third choice first, her second choice second, her first choice she meets third, and her last choice last. The orderings are marked with an A or a B to indicate in which instances these strategies result in her getting her first choice.
1234 • 1243 • 1324 • 1342 • 1423 • 1432 • 2134(A) • 2143(A) • 2314(A,B) • 2341(A,B) • 2413(A,B) • 2431(A,B) • 3124(A) • 3142(A) • 3214(B) • 3241(B) • 3412(A,B) • 3421 • 4123(A) • 4132(A) • 4213(B) • 423KB) • 4312(B) • 4321
If Myrtle is quite attractive and can expect to have twenty-five suitors, her best strategy would still be to reject the first nine of these suitors (37 percent of 25) and then accept the first heartthrob after that. This could be verified by tabulation, as above, but the tables get unwieldy and it's best to accept the general proof. (Needless to say, the same analysis holds if the person seeking a spouse is a Mortimer and not a Myrtle.)
For large values of N, the probability that Myrtle will find her Mr. Right following this 37 percent rule is also approximately 37 percent. Then comes the hard part: living with Mr. Right. Variants of the model exist with more romantically plausible constraints.U
What you wrote confuses me haha but if I grasped the main idea I have to quote:" It's the time you have spend for your rose that makes it so priceless. "
Posted by SeleukosYou see thats true haha. But I prefer to choose on my own than be comfortable. Everyone makes their choices and that's OK.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutNah, that's okay.Posted by SeleukosPosted by ChocolateHazelnutWe are getting there , slowly but surely.Posted by SeleukosThanks I agree. You need to be patient for that change cause it's not going to happen overnight and we all know it. Plus women feel unique and nice when men do everything the human mind can think to show them they are one of a kind and simply perfect while he has drop his ego to 0 so they don't actually want to change that.Then women don't like the man who does that too cause he is not man enough if he is running behind a woman. Of course we are nice and respect each other and show interest and make our partner or interest feel unique and loved. But this happens from both sides and has logical limits too.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutI completly agree with that. That's why I'm always jumping into this topic again and again despite knowing how bad and agressive it might make me look.Posted by SeleukosI totally get what you say here . Everybody had his /her own definition of femininity and masculinity even though norms and society affect that largely. The point is men and women a lot of times have different perception of things in a conversation. An example is women communicate to share and be understood and listened and men in general seek to solve a problem in everything a woman tells them and sounds like a complaint.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutI said nothing about her abilities to communicate. That is completly besides the point I was trying to make.Posted by SeleukosGuys women are still sensitive. Also its is unfair to tell a woman she can not communicate her interest. A lot of women are perfectly capable of it and it's a very enjoyable and playful game.Posted by GC04I see or at least I think I see.Posted by SeleukosJust go away 😞😔Posted by GC04How is that being mean?Posted by SeleukosWhy you being mean? 😭Posted by GC04Still he might just ignore it if he has any dignity.Posted by TheSagLol wut? 😂Posted by GC04men don't even know how to write hinds
Hullllzzzz no.
I’ll give lots of hints though.
I’m a Leo Venus, I know how to get a point across when it comes to these things.
You took it personaly didn't you?
I wasn't talking about you specifically but in general.
If a women would just give "hints" but never do anything that goey beyond that, I think a man should ignore her to maintain his dignity.
Why? Well if you want something and are interested in him as a person you should be able to go up to him and let him know that.
The usual game that women play is nothing more than a game of retardation.
It becomes even more apparent whenever a man reverses the roles and acts the way a women would in his place. That's when women have a tendency to go completly nuts, aggressive and hurting which highlights how inhuman such a behaviour is.
I am actually not very capable of it and flirting in general and that's why I suggest this idea. We should still let women be woman and act feminine and love them for that. As long as they learn to reject in a caring and gentle way too.
It doesn't matter if she can communicate or not, it's the very notion that stands behind this behaviour, but yes women often are way better at communication.
The let women be feminine is a very shady argument, at best.
Are women who take a more direct approach to love and flirting less feminie now?
If yes, that's downright sexist.
What this notion really is about is control and power. The traditional patterns allow to retreat into ambiguity whenever she pleases, claiming the man misunderstood her while he has to expose himself completly and taking all the risks.
This is exactly what the gender equality movement was fighting against.
If the women is just shy and it's part of her character that would be completly fine as it woulld b a matter of charactzer and not gender.
Maybe the girl above did actually got that personally. It's like telling to a man that he can't use his sex appeal to attract women. They are actually to two different things. Flirt/sex appeal and initiation.
Women are taught and raised to not initiate contact and carry a whole lot of restrictive and prideful, ego driven ideas about men and relationships. Like women are queens and stuff lol.
If we don't examine these ideas and beliefs though, we can't actually expect them to change on their own.
That's why I explicitly said it is not personal.
it just really bugs me that we fight racism and sexism but completly turn a blind toward a matter that is so important to a stable society as a whole but completly ingore that the machanics of sexism and racism are very much completly prevalent there.
While doing a bit of reseach about the Lilith placement I found a notion I found very beautiful and fitting in this context.
Paraphrasing:
Lilith doesn't fight the traditional man out of hate but out of love. She wants men to be as free as women so that love can flow freely among equals. A strong man always needs a strong women. He can't want anything less.
I'm fighting for nothing less (Lilith in Scorpio).
The traditional attitude can also create a lot of very practical problems. If the women is a shy, caring and sweet one she is more likely to end up with the player asshole type if we maintain this structure as it is harder to determine what kind of man he is if all kinds of men are supposed to act that way if they want to have a relationship.
I'm fully aware of how hard that might be since I as a man had to endure this kind of expectations my whole life while all women around are complaining that men are brave enough to just approach them.
I say that is very good. It shows that things are changing for the better. Men are becoming persons instead of just men. I wish women the same development.
The whole point is that yes double standards exist. False and unhealthy expectations and ways of communicating and connect too.
People are single everywhere. Social Media propel the fairytale romance kind of relationships where the prince finds the queen and they live happily ever after. Soulmates theory. And all these weird stuff. People are misguided and feel bad for themselves for not getting what they want simply cause the go for it the wrong way.
A lot needs to change and hopefully it is going to happen sooner or later.
Just need to keep working on that topic.
Haha it's just 3 of us in this topic that are positive on this idea
Two more than I though.
I'm Aqua. History will prove me right no matter what they think/want.
Besides, I completly understand why they would want to keep things as they are. It's so much easier and comfortable that way.click to expand
Posted by SeleukosBut things get complicated sometimes.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutNah, that's okay.Posted by SeleukosPosted by ChocolateHazelnutWe are getting there , slowly but surely.Posted by SeleukosThanks I agree. You need to be patient for that change cause it's not going to happen overnight and we all know it. Plus women feel unique and nice when men do everything the human mind can think to show them they are one of a kind and simply perfect while he has drop his ego to 0 so they don't actually want to change that.Then women don't like the man who does that too cause he is not man enough if he is running behind a woman. Of course we are nice and respect each other and show interest and make our partner or interest feel unique and loved. But this happens from both sides and has logical limits too.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutI completly agree with that. That's why I'm always jumping into this topic again and again despite knowing how bad and agressive it might make me look.Posted by SeleukosI totally get what you say here . Everybody had his /her own definition of femininity and masculinity even though norms and society affect that largely. The point is men and women a lot of times have different perception of things in a conversation. An example is women communicate to share and be understood and listened and men in general seek to solve a problem in everything a woman tells them and sounds like a complaint.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutI said nothing about her abilities to communicate. That is completly besides the point I was trying to make.Posted by SeleukosGuys women are still sensitive. Also its is unfair to tell a woman she can not communicate her interest. A lot of women are perfectly capable of it and it's a very enjoyable and playful game.Posted by GC04I see or at least I think I see.Posted by SeleukosJust go away 😞😔Posted by GC04How is that being mean?Posted by SeleukosWhy you being mean? 😭Posted by GC04Still he might just ignore it if he has any dignity.Posted by TheSagLol wut? 😂Posted by GC04men don't even know how to write hinds
Hullllzzzz no.
I’ll give lots of hints though.
I’m a Leo Venus, I know how to get a point across when it comes to these things.
You took it personaly didn't you?
I wasn't talking about you specifically but in general.
If a women would just give "hints" but never do anything that goey beyond that, I think a man should ignore her to maintain his dignity.
Why? Well if you want something and are interested in him as a person you should be able to go up to him and let him know that.
The usual game that women play is nothing more than a game of retardation.
It becomes even more apparent whenever a man reverses the roles and acts the way a women would in his place. That's when women have a tendency to go completly nuts, aggressive and hurting which highlights how inhuman such a behaviour is.
I am actually not very capable of it and flirting in general and that's why I suggest this idea. We should still let women be woman and act feminine and love them for that. As long as they learn to reject in a caring and gentle way too.
It doesn't matter if she can communicate or not, it's the very notion that stands behind this behaviour, but yes women often are way better at communication.
The let women be feminine is a very shady argument, at best.
Are women who take a more direct approach to love and flirting less feminie now?
If yes, that's downright sexist.
What this notion really is about is control and power. The traditional patterns allow to retreat into ambiguity whenever she pleases, claiming the man misunderstood her while he has to expose himself completly and taking all the risks.
This is exactly what the gender equality movement was fighting against.
If the women is just shy and it's part of her character that would be completly fine as it woulld b a matter of charactzer and not gender.
Maybe the girl above did actually got that personally. It's like telling to a man that he can't use his sex appeal to attract women. They are actually to two different things. Flirt/sex appeal and initiation.
Women are taught and raised to not initiate contact and carry a whole lot of restrictive and prideful, ego driven ideas about men and relationships. Like women are queens and stuff lol.
If we don't examine these ideas and beliefs though, we can't actually expect them to change on their own.
That's why I explicitly said it is not personal.
it just really bugs me that we fight racism and sexism but completly turn a blind toward a matter that is so important to a stable society as a whole but completly ingore that the machanics of sexism and racism are very much completly prevalent there.
While doing a bit of reseach about the Lilith placement I found a notion I found very beautiful and fitting in this context.
Paraphrasing:
Lilith doesn't fight the traditional man out of hate but out of love. She wants men to be as free as women so that love can flow freely among equals. A strong man always needs a strong women. He can't want anything less.
I'm fighting for nothing less (Lilith in Scorpio).
The traditional attitude can also create a lot of very practical problems. If the women is a shy, caring and sweet one she is more likely to end up with the player asshole type if we maintain this structure as it is harder to determine what kind of man he is if all kinds of men are supposed to act that way if they want to have a relationship.
I'm fully aware of how hard that might be since I as a man had to endure this kind of expectations my whole life while all women around are complaining that men are brave enough to just approach them.
I say that is very good. It shows that things are changing for the better. Men are becoming persons instead of just men. I wish women the same development.
The whole point is that yes double standards exist. False and unhealthy expectations and ways of communicating and connect too.
People are single everywhere. Social Media propel the fairytale romance kind of relationships where the prince finds the queen and they live happily ever after. Soulmates theory. And all these weird stuff. People are misguided and feel bad for themselves for not getting what they want simply cause the go for it the wrong way.
A lot needs to change and hopefully it is going to happen sooner or later.
Just need to keep working on that topic.
Haha it's just 3 of us in this topic that are positive on this idea
Two more than I though.
I'm Aqua. History will prove me right no matter what they think/want.
Besides, I completly understand why they would want to keep things as they are. It's so much easier and comfortable that way.click to expand
I believe that men and women are the same and they can approach equally one to another.
But then it’s an instinct in me that makes the man that fights for me more attractive.
I fight that. But instinct wins even if I don’t approve of it.
Posted by pisceswoman123This could actually happen! YesPosted by SeleukosBut things get complicated sometimes.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutNah, that's okay.Posted by SeleukosPosted by ChocolateHazelnutWe are getting there , slowly but surely.Posted by SeleukosThanks I agree. You need to be patient for that change cause it's not going to happen overnight and we all know it. Plus women feel unique and nice when men do everything the human mind can think to show them they are one of a kind and simply perfect while he has drop his ego to 0 so they don't actually want to change that.Then women don't like the man who does that too cause he is not man enough if he is running behind a woman. Of course we are nice and respect each other and show interest and make our partner or interest feel unique and loved. But this happens from both sides and has logical limits too.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutI completly agree with that. That's why I'm always jumping into this topic again and again despite knowing how bad and agressive it might make me look.Posted by SeleukosI totally get what you say here . Everybody had his /her own definition of femininity and masculinity even though norms and society affect that largely. The point is men and women a lot of times have different perception of things in a conversation. An example is women communicate to share and be understood and listened and men in general seek to solve a problem in everything a woman tells them and sounds like a complaint.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutI said nothing about her abilities to communicate. That is completly besides the point I was trying to make.Posted by SeleukosGuys women are still sensitive. Also its is unfair to tell a woman she can not communicate her interest. A lot of women are perfectly capable of it and it's a very enjoyable and playful game.Posted by GC04I see or at least I think I see.Posted by SeleukosJust go away 😞😔Posted by GC04How is that being mean?Posted by SeleukosWhy you being mean? 😭Posted by GC04Still he might just ignore it if he has any dignity.Posted by TheSagLol wut? 😂Posted by GC04men don't even know how to write hinds
Hullllzzzz no.
I’ll give lots of hints though.
I’m a Leo Venus, I know how to get a point across when it comes to these things.
You took it personaly didn't you?
I wasn't talking about you specifically but in general.
If a women would just give "hints" but never do anything that goey beyond that, I think a man should ignore her to maintain his dignity.
Why? Well if you want something and are interested in him as a person you should be able to go up to him and let him know that.
The usual game that women play is nothing more than a game of retardation.
It becomes even more apparent whenever a man reverses the roles and acts the way a women would in his place. That's when women have a tendency to go completly nuts, aggressive and hurting which highlights how inhuman such a behaviour is.
I am actually not very capable of it and flirting in general and that's why I suggest this idea. We should still let women be woman and act feminine and love them for that. As long as they learn to reject in a caring and gentle way too.
It doesn't matter if she can communicate or not, it's the very notion that stands behind this behaviour, but yes women often are way better at communication.
The let women be feminine is a very shady argument, at best.
Are women who take a more direct approach to love and flirting less feminie now?
If yes, that's downright sexist.
What this notion really is about is control and power. The traditional patterns allow to retreat into ambiguity whenever she pleases, claiming the man misunderstood her while he has to expose himself completly and taking all the risks.
This is exactly what the gender equality movement was fighting against.
If the women is just shy and it's part of her character that would be completly fine as it woulld b a matter of charactzer and not gender.
Maybe the girl above did actually got that personally. It's like telling to a man that he can't use his sex appeal to attract women. They are actually to two different things. Flirt/sex appeal and initiation.
Women are taught and raised to not initiate contact and carry a whole lot of restrictive and prideful, ego driven ideas about men and relationships. Like women are queens and stuff lol.
If we don't examine these ideas and beliefs though, we can't actually expect them to change on their own.
That's why I explicitly said it is not personal.
it just really bugs me that we fight racism and sexism but completly turn a blind toward a matter that is so important to a stable society as a whole but completly ingore that the machanics of sexism and racism are very much completly prevalent there.
While doing a bit of reseach about the Lilith placement I found a notion I found very beautiful and fitting in this context.
Paraphrasing:
Lilith doesn't fight the traditional man out of hate but out of love. She wants men to be as free as women so that love can flow freely among equals. A strong man always needs a strong women. He can't want anything less.
I'm fighting for nothing less (Lilith in Scorpio).
The traditional attitude can also create a lot of very practical problems. If the women is a shy, caring and sweet one she is more likely to end up with the player asshole type if we maintain this structure as it is harder to determine what kind of man he is if all kinds of men are supposed to act that way if they want to have a relationship.
I'm fully aware of how hard that might be since I as a man had to endure this kind of expectations my whole life while all women around are complaining that men are brave enough to just approach them.
I say that is very good. It shows that things are changing for the better. Men are becoming persons instead of just men. I wish women the same development.
The whole point is that yes double standards exist. False and unhealthy expectations and ways of communicating and connect too.
People are single everywhere. Social Media propel the fairytale romance kind of relationships where the prince finds the queen and they live happily ever after. Soulmates theory. And all these weird stuff. People are misguided and feel bad for themselves for not getting what they want simply cause the go for it the wrong way.
A lot needs to change and hopefully it is going to happen sooner or later.
Just need to keep working on that topic.
Haha it's just 3 of us in this topic that are positive on this idea
Two more than I though.
I'm Aqua. History will prove me right no matter what they think/want.
Besides, I completly understand why they would want to keep things as they are. It's so much easier and comfortable that way.
I believe that men and women are the same and they can approach equally one to another.
But then it’s an instinct in me that makes the man that fights for me more attractive.
I fight that. But instinct wins even if I don’t approve of it.click to expand
Posted by SeleukosYes exactly!Posted by pisceswoman123I know what you mean and I think it's not because he adheres to that oldfahioned ideal but more so because you as a person are more compatible with a person that naturally would act that way as part of their personality.Posted by SeleukosBut things get complicated sometimes.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutNah, that's okay.Posted by SeleukosPosted by ChocolateHazelnutWe are getting there , slowly but surely.Posted by SeleukosThanks I agree. You need to be patient for that change cause it's not going to happen overnight and we all know it. Plus women feel unique and nice when men do everything the human mind can think to show them they are one of a kind and simply perfect while he has drop his ego to 0 so they don't actually want to change that.Then women don't like the man who does that too cause he is not man enough if he is running behind a woman. Of course we are nice and respect each other and show interest and make our partner or interest feel unique and loved. But this happens from both sides and has logical limits too.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutI completly agree with that. That's why I'm always jumping into this topic again and again despite knowing how bad and agressive it might make me look.Posted by SeleukosI totally get what you say here . Everybody had his /her own definition of femininity and masculinity even though norms and society affect that largely. The point is men and women a lot of times have different perception of things in a conversation. An example is women communicate to share and be understood and listened and men in general seek to solve a problem in everything a woman tells them and sounds like a complaint.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutI said nothing about her abilities to communicate. That is completly besides the point I was trying to make.Posted by SeleukosGuys women are still sensitive. Also its is unfair to tell a woman she can not communicate her interest. A lot of women are perfectly capable of it and it's a very enjoyable and playful game.Posted by GC04I see or at least I think I see.Posted by SeleukosJust go away 😞😔Posted by GC04How is that being mean?Posted by SeleukosWhy you being mean? 😭Posted by GC04Still he might just ignore it if he has any dignity.Posted by TheSagLol wut? 😂Posted by GC04men don't even know how to write hinds
Hullllzzzz no.
I’ll give lots of hints though.
I’m a Leo Venus, I know how to get a point across when it comes to these things.
You took it personaly didn't you?
I wasn't talking about you specifically but in general.
If a women would just give "hints" but never do anything that goey beyond that, I think a man should ignore her to maintain his dignity.
Why? Well if you want something and are interested in him as a person you should be able to go up to him and let him know that.
The usual game that women play is nothing more than a game of retardation.
It becomes even more apparent whenever a man reverses the roles and acts the way a women would in his place. That's when women have a tendency to go completly nuts, aggressive and hurting which highlights how inhuman such a behaviour is.
I am actually not very capable of it and flirting in general and that's why I suggest this idea. We should still let women be woman and act feminine and love them for that. As long as they learn to reject in a caring and gentle way too.
It doesn't matter if she can communicate or not, it's the very notion that stands behind this behaviour, but yes women often are way better at communication.
The let women be feminine is a very shady argument, at best.
Are women who take a more direct approach to love and flirting less feminie now?
If yes, that's downright sexist.
What this notion really is about is control and power. The traditional patterns allow to retreat into ambiguity whenever she pleases, claiming the man misunderstood her while he has to expose himself completly and taking all the risks.
This is exactly what the gender equality movement was fighting against.
If the women is just shy and it's part of her character that would be completly fine as it woulld b a matter of charactzer and not gender.
Maybe the girl above did actually got that personally. It's like telling to a man that he can't use his sex appeal to attract women. They are actually to two different things. Flirt/sex appeal and initiation.
Women are taught and raised to not initiate contact and carry a whole lot of restrictive and prideful, ego driven ideas about men and relationships. Like women are queens and stuff lol.
If we don't examine these ideas and beliefs though, we can't actually expect them to change on their own.
That's why I explicitly said it is not personal.
it just really bugs me that we fight racism and sexism but completly turn a blind toward a matter that is so important to a stable society as a whole but completly ingore that the machanics of sexism and racism are very much completly prevalent there.
While doing a bit of reseach about the Lilith placement I found a notion I found very beautiful and fitting in this context.
Paraphrasing:
Lilith doesn't fight the traditional man out of hate but out of love. She wants men to be as free as women so that love can flow freely among equals. A strong man always needs a strong women. He can't want anything less.
I'm fighting for nothing less (Lilith in Scorpio).
The traditional attitude can also create a lot of very practical problems. If the women is a shy, caring and sweet one she is more likely to end up with the player asshole type if we maintain this structure as it is harder to determine what kind of man he is if all kinds of men are supposed to act that way if they want to have a relationship.
I'm fully aware of how hard that might be since I as a man had to endure this kind of expectations my whole life while all women around are complaining that men are brave enough to just approach them.
I say that is very good. It shows that things are changing for the better. Men are becoming persons instead of just men. I wish women the same development.
The whole point is that yes double standards exist. False and unhealthy expectations and ways of communicating and connect too.
People are single everywhere. Social Media propel the fairytale romance kind of relationships where the prince finds the queen and they live happily ever after. Soulmates theory. And all these weird stuff. People are misguided and feel bad for themselves for not getting what they want simply cause the go for it the wrong way.
A lot needs to change and hopefully it is going to happen sooner or later.
Just need to keep working on that topic.
Haha it's just 3 of us in this topic that are positive on this idea
Two more than I though.
I'm Aqua. History will prove me right no matter what they think/want.
Besides, I completly understand why they would want to keep things as they are. It's so much easier and comfortable that way.
I believe that men and women are the same and they can approach equally one to another.
But then it’s an instinct in me that makes the man that fights for me more attractive.
I fight that. But instinct wins even if I don’t approve of it.click to expand
It’s like I cannot help to be attracted to that behavior because it’s touch something in me that I just cannot explain.
It’s annoying because my reasoning and believes don’t agree with that but it’s nothing I can do about it.
Posted by ChocolateHazelnutPosted by pisceswoman123This could actually happen! YesPosted by SeleukosBut things get complicated sometimes.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutNah, that's okay.Posted by SeleukosPosted by ChocolateHazelnutWe are getting there , slowly but surely.Posted by SeleukosThanks I agree. You need to be patient for that change cause it's not going to happen overnight and we all know it. Plus women feel unique and nice when men do everything the human mind can think to show them they are one of a kind and simply perfect while he has drop his ego to 0 so they don't actually want to change that.Then women don't like the man who does that too cause he is not man enough if he is running behind a woman. Of course we are nice and respect each other and show interest and make our partner or interest feel unique and loved. But this happens from both sides and has logical limits too.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutI completly agree with that. That's why I'm always jumping into this topic again and again despite knowing how bad and agressive it might make me look.Posted by SeleukosI totally get what you say here . Everybody had his /her own definition of femininity and masculinity even though norms and society affect that largely. The point is men and women a lot of times have different perception of things in a conversation. An example is women communicate to share and be understood and listened and men in general seek to solve a problem in everything a woman tells them and sounds like a complaint.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutI said nothing about her abilities to communicate. That is completly besides the point I was trying to make.Posted by SeleukosGuys women are still sensitive. Also its is unfair to tell a woman she can not communicate her interest. A lot of women are perfectly capable of it and it's a very enjoyable and playful game.Posted by GC04I see or at least I think I see.Posted by SeleukosJust go away 😞😔Posted by GC04How is that being mean?Posted by SeleukosWhy you being mean? 😭Posted by GC04Still he might just ignore it if he has any dignity.Posted by TheSagLol wut? 😂Posted by GC04men don't even know how to write hinds
Hullllzzzz no.
I’ll give lots of hints though.
I’m a Leo Venus, I know how to get a point across when it comes to these things.
You took it personaly didn't you?
I wasn't talking about you specifically but in general.
If a women would just give "hints" but never do anything that goey beyond that, I think a man should ignore her to maintain his dignity.
Why? Well if you want something and are interested in him as a person you should be able to go up to him and let him know that.
The usual game that women play is nothing more than a game of retardation.
It becomes even more apparent whenever a man reverses the roles and acts the way a women would in his place. That's when women have a tendency to go completly nuts, aggressive and hurting which highlights how inhuman such a behaviour is.
I am actually not very capable of it and flirting in general and that's why I suggest this idea. We should still let women be woman and act feminine and love them for that. As long as they learn to reject in a caring and gentle way too.
It doesn't matter if she can communicate or not, it's the very notion that stands behind this behaviour, but yes women often are way better at communication.
The let women be feminine is a very shady argument, at best.
Are women who take a more direct approach to love and flirting less feminie now?
If yes, that's downright sexist.
What this notion really is about is control and power. The traditional patterns allow to retreat into ambiguity whenever she pleases, claiming the man misunderstood her while he has to expose himself completly and taking all the risks.
This is exactly what the gender equality movement was fighting against.
If the women is just shy and it's part of her character that would be completly fine as it woulld b a matter of charactzer and not gender.
Maybe the girl above did actually got that personally. It's like telling to a man that he can't use his sex appeal to attract women. They are actually to two different things. Flirt/sex appeal and initiation.
Women are taught and raised to not initiate contact and carry a whole lot of restrictive and prideful, ego driven ideas about men and relationships. Like women are queens and stuff lol.
If we don't examine these ideas and beliefs though, we can't actually expect them to change on their own.
That's why I explicitly said it is not personal.
it just really bugs me that we fight racism and sexism but completly turn a blind toward a matter that is so important to a stable society as a whole but completly ingore that the machanics of sexism and racism are very much completly prevalent there.
While doing a bit of reseach about the Lilith placement I found a notion I found very beautiful and fitting in this context.
Paraphrasing:
Lilith doesn't fight the traditional man out of hate but out of love. She wants men to be as free as women so that love can flow freely among equals. A strong man always needs a strong women. He can't want anything less.
I'm fighting for nothing less (Lilith in Scorpio).
The traditional attitude can also create a lot of very practical problems. If the women is a shy, caring and sweet one she is more likely to end up with the player asshole type if we maintain this structure as it is harder to determine what kind of man he is if all kinds of men are supposed to act that way if they want to have a relationship.
I'm fully aware of how hard that might be since I as a man had to endure this kind of expectations my whole life while all women around are complaining that men are brave enough to just approach them.
I say that is very good. It shows that things are changing for the better. Men are becoming persons instead of just men. I wish women the same development.
The whole point is that yes double standards exist. False and unhealthy expectations and ways of communicating and connect too.
People are single everywhere. Social Media propel the fairytale romance kind of relationships where the prince finds the queen and they live happily ever after. Soulmates theory. And all these weird stuff. People are misguided and feel bad for themselves for not getting what they want simply cause the go for it the wrong way.
A lot needs to change and hopefully it is going to happen sooner or later.
Just need to keep working on that topic.
Haha it's just 3 of us in this topic that are positive on this idea
Two more than I though.
I'm Aqua. History will prove me right no matter what they think/want.
Besides, I completly understand why they would want to keep things as they are. It's so much easier and comfortable that way.
I believe that men and women are the same and they can approach equally one to another.
But then it’s an instinct in me that makes the man that fights for me more attractive.
I fight that. But instinct wins even if I don’t approve of it.click to expand
To me that happens very often
Posted by SeleukosWell put 🙂Posted by pisceswoman123Posted by SeleukosYes exactly!Posted by pisceswoman123I know what you mean and I think it's not because he adheres to that oldfahioned ideal but more so because you as a person are more compatible with a person that naturally would act that way as part of their personality.Posted by SeleukosBut things get complicated sometimes.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutNah, that's okay.Posted by SeleukosPosted by ChocolateHazelnutWe are getting there , slowly but surely.Posted by SeleukosThanks I agree. You need to be patient for that change cause it's not going to happen overnight and we all know it. Plus women feel unique and nice when men do everything the human mind can think to show them they are one of a kind and simply perfect while he has drop his ego to 0 so they don't actually want to change that.Then women don't like the man who does that too cause he is not man enough if he is running behind a woman. Of course we are nice and respect each other and show interest and make our partner or interest feel unique and loved. But this happens from both sides and has logical limits too.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutI completly agree with that. That's why I'm always jumping into this topic again and again despite knowing how bad and agressive it might make me look.Posted by SeleukosI totally get what you say here . Everybody had his /her own definition of femininity and masculinity even though norms and society affect that largely. The point is men and women a lot of times have different perception of things in a conversation. An example is women communicate to share and be understood and listened and men in general seek to solve a problem in everything a woman tells them and sounds like a complaint.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutI said nothing about her abilities to communicate. That is completly besides the point I was trying to make.Posted by SeleukosGuys women are still sensitive. Also its is unfair to tell a woman she can not communicate her interest. A lot of women are perfectly capable of it and it's a very enjoyable and playful game.Posted by GC04I see or at least I think I see.Posted by SeleukosJust go away 😞😔Posted by GC04How is that being mean?Posted by SeleukosWhy you being mean? 😭Posted by GC04Still he might just ignore it if he has any dignity.Posted by TheSagLol wut? 😂Posted by GC04men don't even know how to write hinds
Hullllzzzz no.
I’ll give lots of hints though.
I’m a Leo Venus, I know how to get a point across when it comes to these things.
You took it personaly didn't you?
I wasn't talking about you specifically but in general.
If a women would just give "hints" but never do anything that goey beyond that, I think a man should ignore her to maintain his dignity.
Why? Well if you want something and are interested in him as a person you should be able to go up to him and let him know that.
The usual game that women play is nothing more than a game of retardation.
It becomes even more apparent whenever a man reverses the roles and acts the way a women would in his place. That's when women have a tendency to go completly nuts, aggressive and hurting which highlights how inhuman such a behaviour is.
I am actually not very capable of it and flirting in general and that's why I suggest this idea. We should still let women be woman and act feminine and love them for that. As long as they learn to reject in a caring and gentle way too.
It doesn't matter if she can communicate or not, it's the very notion that stands behind this behaviour, but yes women often are way better at communication.
The let women be feminine is a very shady argument, at best.
Are women who take a more direct approach to love and flirting less feminie now?
If yes, that's downright sexist.
What this notion really is about is control and power. The traditional patterns allow to retreat into ambiguity whenever she pleases, claiming the man misunderstood her while he has to expose himself completly and taking all the risks.
This is exactly what the gender equality movement was fighting against.
If the women is just shy and it's part of her character that would be completly fine as it woulld b a matter of charactzer and not gender.
Maybe the girl above did actually got that personally. It's like telling to a man that he can't use his sex appeal to attract women. They are actually to two different things. Flirt/sex appeal and initiation.
Women are taught and raised to not initiate contact and carry a whole lot of restrictive and prideful, ego driven ideas about men and relationships. Like women are queens and stuff lol.
If we don't examine these ideas and beliefs though, we can't actually expect them to change on their own.
That's why I explicitly said it is not personal.
it just really bugs me that we fight racism and sexism but completly turn a blind toward a matter that is so important to a stable society as a whole but completly ingore that the machanics of sexism and racism are very much completly prevalent there.
While doing a bit of reseach about the Lilith placement I found a notion I found very beautiful and fitting in this context.
Paraphrasing:
Lilith doesn't fight the traditional man out of hate but out of love. She wants men to be as free as women so that love can flow freely among equals. A strong man always needs a strong women. He can't want anything less.
I'm fighting for nothing less (Lilith in Scorpio).
The traditional attitude can also create a lot of very practical problems. If the women is a shy, caring and sweet one she is more likely to end up with the player asshole type if we maintain this structure as it is harder to determine what kind of man he is if all kinds of men are supposed to act that way if they want to have a relationship.
I'm fully aware of how hard that might be since I as a man had to endure this kind of expectations my whole life while all women around are complaining that men are brave enough to just approach them.
I say that is very good. It shows that things are changing for the better. Men are becoming persons instead of just men. I wish women the same development.
The whole point is that yes double standards exist. False and unhealthy expectations and ways of communicating and connect too.
People are single everywhere. Social Media propel the fairytale romance kind of relationships where the prince finds the queen and they live happily ever after. Soulmates theory. And all these weird stuff. People are misguided and feel bad for themselves for not getting what they want simply cause the go for it the wrong way.
A lot needs to change and hopefully it is going to happen sooner or later.
Just need to keep working on that topic.
Haha it's just 3 of us in this topic that are positive on this idea
Two more than I though.
I'm Aqua. History will prove me right no matter what they think/want.
Besides, I completly understand why they would want to keep things as they are. It's so much easier and comfortable that way.
I believe that men and women are the same and they can approach equally one to another.
But then it’s an instinct in me that makes the man that fights for me more attractive.
I fight that. But instinct wins even if I don’t approve of it.
It’s like I cannot help to be attracted to that behavior because it’s touch something in me that I just cannot explain.
It’s annoying because my reasoning and believes don’t agree with that but it’s nothing I can do about it.
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Still it’s gets more complicated when you brain want one man but your body wants the other.
Likely nowadays you can find a beautiful mixture of the two.
Posted by pisceswoman123Posted by ChocolateHazelnutPosted by pisceswoman123This could actually happen! YesPosted by SeleukosBut things get complicated sometimes.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutNah, that's okay.Posted by SeleukosPosted by ChocolateHazelnutWe are getting there , slowly but surely.Posted by SeleukosThanks I agree. You need to be patient for that change cause it's not going to happen overnight and we all know it. Plus women feel unique and nice when men do everything the human mind can think to show them they are one of a kind and simply perfect while he has drop his ego to 0 so they don't actually want to change that.Then women don't like the man who does that too cause he is not man enough if he is running behind a woman. Of course we are nice and respect each other and show interest and make our partner or interest feel unique and loved. But this happens from both sides and has logical limits too.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutI completly agree with that. That's why I'm always jumping into this topic again and again despite knowing how bad and agressive it might make me look.Posted by SeleukosI totally get what you say here . Everybody had his /her own definition of femininity and masculinity even though norms and society affect that largely. The point is men and women a lot of times have different perception of things in a conversation. An example is women communicate to share and be understood and listened and men in general seek to solve a problem in everything a woman tells them and sounds like a complaint.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutI said nothing about her abilities to communicate. That is completly besides the point I was trying to make.Posted by SeleukosGuys women are still sensitive. Also its is unfair to tell a woman she can not communicate her interest. A lot of women are perfectly capable of it and it's a very enjoyable and playful game.Posted by GC04I see or at least I think I see.Posted by SeleukosJust go away 😞😔Posted by GC04How is that being mean?Posted by SeleukosWhy you being mean? 😭Posted by GC04Still he might just ignore it if he has any dignity.Posted by TheSagLol wut? 😂Posted by GC04men don't even know how to write hinds
Hullllzzzz no.
I’ll give lots of hints though.
I’m a Leo Venus, I know how to get a point across when it comes to these things.
You took it personaly didn't you?
I wasn't talking about you specifically but in general.
If a women would just give "hints" but never do anything that goey beyond that, I think a man should ignore her to maintain his dignity.
Why? Well if you want something and are interested in him as a person you should be able to go up to him and let him know that.
The usual game that women play is nothing more than a game of retardation.
It becomes even more apparent whenever a man reverses the roles and acts the way a women would in his place. That's when women have a tendency to go completly nuts, aggressive and hurting which highlights how inhuman such a behaviour is.
I am actually not very capable of it and flirting in general and that's why I suggest this idea. We should still let women be woman and act feminine and love them for that. As long as they learn to reject in a caring and gentle way too.
It doesn't matter if she can communicate or not, it's the very notion that stands behind this behaviour, but yes women often are way better at communication.
The let women be feminine is a very shady argument, at best.
Are women who take a more direct approach to love and flirting less feminie now?
If yes, that's downright sexist.
What this notion really is about is control and power. The traditional patterns allow to retreat into ambiguity whenever she pleases, claiming the man misunderstood her while he has to expose himself completly and taking all the risks.
This is exactly what the gender equality movement was fighting against.
If the women is just shy and it's part of her character that would be completly fine as it woulld b a matter of charactzer and not gender.
Maybe the girl above did actually got that personally. It's like telling to a man that he can't use his sex appeal to attract women. They are actually to two different things. Flirt/sex appeal and initiation.
Women are taught and raised to not initiate contact and carry a whole lot of restrictive and prideful, ego driven ideas about men and relationships. Like women are queens and stuff lol.
If we don't examine these ideas and beliefs though, we can't actually expect them to change on their own.
That's why I explicitly said it is not personal.
it just really bugs me that we fight racism and sexism but completly turn a blind toward a matter that is so important to a stable society as a whole but completly ingore that the machanics of sexism and racism are very much completly prevalent there.
While doing a bit of reseach about the Lilith placement I found a notion I found very beautiful and fitting in this context.
Paraphrasing:
Lilith doesn't fight the traditional man out of hate but out of love. She wants men to be as free as women so that love can flow freely among equals. A strong man always needs a strong women. He can't want anything less.
I'm fighting for nothing less (Lilith in Scorpio).
The traditional attitude can also create a lot of very practical problems. If the women is a shy, caring and sweet one she is more likely to end up with the player asshole type if we maintain this structure as it is harder to determine what kind of man he is if all kinds of men are supposed to act that way if they want to have a relationship.
I'm fully aware of how hard that might be since I as a man had to endure this kind of expectations my whole life while all women around are complaining that men are brave enough to just approach them.
I say that is very good. It shows that things are changing for the better. Men are becoming persons instead of just men. I wish women the same development.
The whole point is that yes double standards exist. False and unhealthy expectations and ways of communicating and connect too.
People are single everywhere. Social Media propel the fairytale romance kind of relationships where the prince finds the queen and they live happily ever after. Soulmates theory. And all these weird stuff. People are misguided and feel bad for themselves for not getting what they want simply cause the go for it the wrong way.
A lot needs to change and hopefully it is going to happen sooner or later.
Just need to keep working on that topic.
Haha it's just 3 of us in this topic that are positive on this idea
Two more than I though.
I'm Aqua. History will prove me right no matter what they think/want.
Besides, I completly understand why they would want to keep things as they are. It's so much easier and comfortable that way.
I believe that men and women are the same and they can approach equally one to another.
But then it’s an instinct in me that makes the man that fights for me more attractive.
I fight that. But instinct wins even if I don’t approve of it.
To me that happens very often
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Absolutely its a turn on and a plus when the man takes the lead.... The only purpose of this post is to encourage women to initiate IF they want to. And encourage myself too as I want to. Everything else is up to each ones choices 😉
Posted by ChocolateHazelnutYes, and I completely agree with that. If you feel like you want to ask a guy out you should definitely do it. Nothing wrong with that. Sometimes it’s a mutual effort that works best.Posted by pisceswoman123Posted by ChocolateHazelnutPosted by pisceswoman123This could actually happen! YesPosted by SeleukosBut things get complicated sometimes.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutNah, that's okay.Posted by SeleukosPosted by ChocolateHazelnutWe are getting there , slowly but surely.Posted by SeleukosThanks I agree. You need to be patient for that change cause it's not going to happen overnight and we all know it. Plus women feel unique and nice when men do everything the human mind can think to show them they are one of a kind and simply perfect while he has drop his ego to 0 so they don't actually want to change that.Then women don't like the man who does that too cause he is not man enough if he is running behind a woman. Of course we are nice and respect each other and show interest and make our partner or interest feel unique and loved. But this happens from both sides and has logical limits too.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutI completly agree with that. That's why I'm always jumping into this topic again and again despite knowing how bad and agressive it might make me look.Posted by SeleukosI totally get what you say here . Everybody had his /her own definition of femininity and masculinity even though norms and society affect that largely. The point is men and women a lot of times have different perception of things in a conversation. An example is women communicate to share and be understood and listened and men in general seek to solve a problem in everything a woman tells them and sounds like a complaint.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutI said nothing about her abilities to communicate. That is completly besides the point I was trying to make.Posted by SeleukosGuys women are still sensitive. Also its is unfair to tell a woman she can not communicate her interest. A lot of women are perfectly capable of it and it's a very enjoyable and playful game.Posted by GC04I see or at least I think I see.Posted by SeleukosJust go away 😞😔Posted by GC04How is that being mean?Posted by SeleukosWhy you being mean? 😭Posted by GC04Still he might just ignore it if he has any dignity.Posted by TheSagLol wut? 😂Posted by GC04men don't even know how to write hinds
Hullllzzzz no.
I’ll give lots of hints though.
I’m a Leo Venus, I know how to get a point across when it comes to these things.
You took it personaly didn't you?
I wasn't talking about you specifically but in general.
If a women would just give "hints" but never do anything that goey beyond that, I think a man should ignore her to maintain his dignity.
Why? Well if you want something and are interested in him as a person you should be able to go up to him and let him know that.
The usual game that women play is nothing more than a game of retardation.
It becomes even more apparent whenever a man reverses the roles and acts the way a women would in his place. That's when women have a tendency to go completly nuts, aggressive and hurting which highlights how inhuman such a behaviour is.
I am actually not very capable of it and flirting in general and that's why I suggest this idea. We should still let women be woman and act feminine and love them for that. As long as they learn to reject in a caring and gentle way too.
It doesn't matter if she can communicate or not, it's the very notion that stands behind this behaviour, but yes women often are way better at communication.
The let women be feminine is a very shady argument, at best.
Are women who take a more direct approach to love and flirting less feminie now?
If yes, that's downright sexist.
What this notion really is about is control and power. The traditional patterns allow to retreat into ambiguity whenever she pleases, claiming the man misunderstood her while he has to expose himself completly and taking all the risks.
This is exactly what the gender equality movement was fighting against.
If the women is just shy and it's part of her character that would be completly fine as it woulld b a matter of charactzer and not gender.
Maybe the girl above did actually got that personally. It's like telling to a man that he can't use his sex appeal to attract women. They are actually to two different things. Flirt/sex appeal and initiation.
Women are taught and raised to not initiate contact and carry a whole lot of restrictive and prideful, ego driven ideas about men and relationships. Like women are queens and stuff lol.
If we don't examine these ideas and beliefs though, we can't actually expect them to change on their own.
That's why I explicitly said it is not personal.
it just really bugs me that we fight racism and sexism but completly turn a blind toward a matter that is so important to a stable society as a whole but completly ingore that the machanics of sexism and racism are very much completly prevalent there.
While doing a bit of reseach about the Lilith placement I found a notion I found very beautiful and fitting in this context.
Paraphrasing:
Lilith doesn't fight the traditional man out of hate but out of love. She wants men to be as free as women so that love can flow freely among equals. A strong man always needs a strong women. He can't want anything less.
I'm fighting for nothing less (Lilith in Scorpio).
The traditional attitude can also create a lot of very practical problems. If the women is a shy, caring and sweet one she is more likely to end up with the player asshole type if we maintain this structure as it is harder to determine what kind of man he is if all kinds of men are supposed to act that way if they want to have a relationship.
I'm fully aware of how hard that might be since I as a man had to endure this kind of expectations my whole life while all women around are complaining that men are brave enough to just approach them.
I say that is very good. It shows that things are changing for the better. Men are becoming persons instead of just men. I wish women the same development.
The whole point is that yes double standards exist. False and unhealthy expectations and ways of communicating and connect too.
People are single everywhere. Social Media propel the fairytale romance kind of relationships where the prince finds the queen and they live happily ever after. Soulmates theory. And all these weird stuff. People are misguided and feel bad for themselves for not getting what they want simply cause the go for it the wrong way.
A lot needs to change and hopefully it is going to happen sooner or later.
Just need to keep working on that topic.
Haha it's just 3 of us in this topic that are positive on this idea
Two more than I though.
I'm Aqua. History will prove me right no matter what they think/want.
Besides, I completly understand why they would want to keep things as they are. It's so much easier and comfortable that way.
I believe that men and women are the same and they can approach equally one to another.
But then it’s an instinct in me that makes the man that fights for me more attractive.
I fight that. But instinct wins even if I don’t approve of it.
To me that happens very often
Absolutely its a turn on and a plus when the man takes the lead.... The only purpose of this post is to encourage women to initiate IF they want to. And encourage myself too as I want to. Everything else is up to each ones choices 😉
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Posted by Seleukos"Well put 🙂
Still it’s gets more complicated when you brain want one man but your body wants the other.
Likely nowadays you can find a beautiful mixture of the two."
@pisceswoman123
Well, thankfully men are finally on their way through their own emancipation which allows them to blend those attributes but women need to stop fighting that.
I see a very big improvement around me. But I know it’s not like that in the majority of places.
Posted by rmactavishPosted by ChocolateHazelnutYou're a Scorpio?Posted by CopperDove
I've done it, but I've gotten to know the men a bit first, so it wasn't a cold call.
My mother did it with a man she was interested in. He'll always remember that, he told me. It isn't common, particularly with people from certain generations. He thought that she was very brave to take the risk and he respected her for it. They're married now.
I think it's only right for women to take the risk sometimes instead of waiting for men to.
That's exactly what I am thinking about!!!!! 😄
We need to act if we are going to get what we want. And we broaden our choices too.click to expand
I am a Sag full of Capricorn!
The only relation to Scorpio is my Sun conjunct Pluto and Chiron in Scorpio.
I did once and I was super proud of myself because I used to be painfully shy when I was younger and I let a lot of good opportunities slide by only to find out later on that my crushes liked me as well but were too terrified of asking me out.
I only asked one guy out in my whole entire life and it was a bittersweet experience. Would I do it again? No.
I only asked one guy out in my whole entire life and it was a bittersweet experience. Would I do it again? No.
Posted by SeleukosProbably the Sag part. And I have quite a lot of Aqua too in my chart.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutThis might explain why we think alike to a degree.Posted by rmactavishPosted by ChocolateHazelnutYou're a Scorpio?Posted by CopperDove
I've done it, but I've gotten to know the men a bit first, so it wasn't a cold call.
My mother did it with a man she was interested in. He'll always remember that, he told me. It isn't common, particularly with people from certain generations. He thought that she was very brave to take the risk and he respected her for it. They're married now.
I think it's only right for women to take the risk sometimes instead of waiting for men to.
That's exactly what I am thinking about!!!!! 😄
We need to act if we are going to get what we want. And we broaden our choices too.
I am a Sag full of Capricorn!
The only relation to Scorpio is my Sun conjunct Pluto and Chiron in Scorpio.
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Posted by OneKnightHappy to here that. In my country if a woman approaches a man is going to be in a club for sex.... Most of the times. Or you need to become friends first otherwise. That's the most common way.
These days, here where I live, it's mostly women ask men out.
Actually, they don't ask them out, but come up and talk first for sure.
***talking for people in their 20's too
Posted by SeleukosHahaha thank you! I agree :pPosted by ChocolateHazelnutOne has to love the Sagittarius.Posted by SeleukosProbably the Sag part. And I have quite a lot of Aqua too in my chart.Posted by ChocolateHazelnutThis might explain why we think alike to a degree.Posted by rmactavishPosted by ChocolateHazelnutYou're a Scorpio?Posted by CopperDove
I've done it, but I've gotten to know the men a bit first, so it wasn't a cold call.
My mother did it with a man she was interested in. He'll always remember that, he told me. It isn't common, particularly with people from certain generations. He thought that she was very brave to take the risk and he respected her for it. They're married now.
I think it's only right for women to take the risk sometimes instead of waiting for men to.
That's exactly what I am thinking about!!!!! 😄
We need to act if we are going to get what we want. And we broaden our choices too.
I am a Sag full of Capricorn!
The only relation to Scorpio is my Sun conjunct Pluto and Chiron in Scorpio.
Keep doing what you do.click to expand
Isn't the way girls ask out guys they are interested in is by giving them a # or FB, and telling them to hit them up if they're interested?
That's how it has been done with me for the most part. I can't recall ever directly being asked out by a girl. Even if they did, I wouldn't find anything wrong with it. It's 2018 ladies, go and get it!
That's how it has been done with me for the most part. I can't recall ever directly being asked out by a girl. Even if they did, I wouldn't find anything wrong with it. It's 2018 ladies, go and get it!
Posted by CrabraNice to read that!!
Isn't the way girls ask out guys they are interested in is by giving them a # or FB, and telling them to hit them up if they're interested?
That's how it has been done with me for the most part. I can't recall ever directly being asked out by a girl. Even if they did, I wouldn't find anything wrong with it. It's 2018 ladies, go and get it!
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