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Posted by WonderlesswaveSolid question (this may all sound clinical too, but it's more natural than it sounds). My idea would be a date that is set at a definite time/location with the intent of getting to know someone in a romantic way. It is not a a scenario with a group of friends or even a hang out session, as the dynamic for these two situations can be very different than a date.
Whats your idea of a proper date ?


Posted by WarAngel1Then they complain why they are single.
Geez, lighten in here. You guys made me depressed. You're young, have some fun dammit!

Posted by ChuckcemThe sad truth is that most men aren't willing to spend their money on a woman they don't know well and prefer to "get-to-know" her by just hanging out, then they complain that she isn't interested. or per say, they got intimate then he has an excuse to "not work hard for it" when he should work even harder because she trusted him enough to expose that side of her to him.Posted by WonderlesswaveSolid question (this may all sound clinical too, but it's more natural than it sounds). My idea would be a date that is set at a definite time/location with the intent of getting to know someone in a romantic way. It is not a a scenario with a group of friends or even a hang out session, as the dynamic for these two situations can be very different than a date.
Whats your idea of a proper date ?
A proper date is designed to make it easy for people to get to know each other outside of a platonic friendship. by clarifying romantic intent. It's also a way for two people to flirt, share ideas, open communication, qualify each other's character, and create a bond that is specific to the two parties. If a man or woman sets up/agrees to a date, it shows there is effort being put forth from one or both parties to move towards a potential relationship.
Example, if a man (or masculine energy) asks someone out on a date(s), it shows that he not only has interest in the other person, but has the conviction to back up said interest with action. It shows he is both direct and confident in his approach, which are usually favorable traits. A man who isn't interested in a potential future will not waste time and money on multiple dates. Likewise a woman (or feminine energy) who is not interested may not waste her time on accepting multiple dates either. If she's disinterested in romance and yet still goes on the date, she definitely won't go as far to create an emotional or physical bond with the other person.
Also proper date is somewhat of a misnomer. The goal is to set up/go on several multiple quality dates with a person. By going on multiple dates where ideas, goals, and interests are being share/expressed, both parties exhibit clear intent/effort toward prusuing a romantic relationship.click to expand

Posted by ChuckcemSimple answer? A lot of people are full of shit. That may be mean and may offend some people or sound cynical but I'm just being honest. It's boring...seriously boring. I see the same types of people put on a show everyday and that's both men and women. Nobody wants to be genuine anymore or develop any real depth to themselves. I'd much rather meet someone who is genuine and shows all their flaws(no matter how bad) than to be with someone who constantly hides themselves and I see their flaws "later" after I've committed myself. And yes, men do this equally as well and it's just as tragic. I'd like to meet a woman who fully accepts me for all my virtues and flaws.
So (correct me if I'm wrong) it sounds like there are users here who aren't fans of dating, or prefer not to date. Why is this? I myself am not a serial/compulsive dater, but I see the benefits of the process. Sounds like a lot of relationship issues can also be solved by going out on proper dates first. Thoughts?
EDIT: For those of you who do prefer to date, feel free to chime as well about your thoughts on dating.

Posted by EllygantExactly and the reason being is that people have been trained to date out of exclusion, not inclusion. Hence the typical questions you get from people when out on a date(I court, not date). When I say exclusion, the questions that come when someone has that mentality is that they are asking to deduct(subtract) from that person and usually it's for "compatibility"...but you don't grow and ironically it's why most relationships fail...people don't have a growth or inclusive mentality. Yeah, they accumulate but that doesn't mean actual growth. It's really that simple. It's like all I see are tactics that divide out of love. It's like this stupid notion that you can bomb your way to peace. If someone truly wants love, you're not going to get it or make it harder by using tactics and having a mentality that divisory.Posted by beautifulsoul74This!!!!!Posted by ChuckcemSimple answer? A lot of people are full of shit. That may be mean and may offend some people or sound cynical but I'm just being honest. It's boring...seriously boring. I see the same types of people put on a show everyday and that's both men and women. Nobody wants to be genuine anymore or develop any real depth to themselves. I'd much rather meet someone who is genuine and shows all their flaws(no matter how bad) than to be with someone who constantly hides themselves and I see their flaws "later" after I've committed myself. And yes, men do this equally as well and it's just as tragic. I'd like to meet a woman who fully accepts me for all my virtues and flaws.
So (correct me if I'm wrong) it sounds like there are users here who aren't fans of dating, or prefer not to date. Why is this? I myself am not a serial/compulsive dater, but I see the benefits of the process. Sounds like a lot of relationship issues can also be solved by going out on proper dates first. Thoughts?
EDIT: For those of you who do prefer to date, feel free to chime as well about your thoughts on dating.
I couldn't articulate this in my post so I jumped around a lot. But this sums it up well for me too.
I rarely leave dates feeling like I have learned anything, about the person or life in general.click to expand

Posted by LadyNeptuneRight. I know some people who date A LOT and it doesn't seem to work well either.
I was doing a ton of dating and nothing felt right. Then I ran into the ? at my old workplace and we hung out and it snowballed. Figures.

Posted by AerazoRight, I would say that those guys should be disqualified if they can't be more direct. I completely understand wanting to get to know a woman first before spending any money on her, that's just smart. However a guy shouldn't expect to get far with a woman (at least not physically) if he doesn't show clear intent. If a woman is seeking a relationship, then that's where she also needs to be patient enough to hold out.Posted by ChuckcemThe sad truth is that most men aren't willing to spend their money on a woman they don't know well and prefer to "get-to-know" her by just hanging out, then they complain that she isn't interested. or per say, they got intimate then he has an excuse to "not work hard for it" when he should work even harder because she trusted him enough to expose that side of her to him.Posted by WonderlesswaveSolid question (this may all sound clinical too, but it's more natural than it sounds). My idea would be a date that is set at a definite time/location with the intent of getting to know someone in a romantic way. It is not a a scenario with a group of friends or even a hang out session, as the dynamic for these two situations can be very different than a date.
Whats your idea of a proper date ?
A proper date is designed to make it easy for people to get to know each other outside of a platonic friendship. by clarifying romantic intent. It's also a way for two people to flirt, share ideas, open communication, qualify each other's character, and create a bond that is specific to the two parties. If a man or woman sets up/agrees to a date, it shows there is effort being put forth from one or both parties to move towards a potential relationship.
Example, if a man (or masculine energy) asks someone out on a date(s), it shows that he not only has interest in the other person, but has the conviction to back up said interest with action. It shows he is both direct and confident in his approach, which are usually favorable traits. A man who isn't interested in a potential future will not waste time and money on multiple dates. Likewise a woman (or feminine energy) who is not interested may not waste her time on accepting multiple dates either. If she's disinterested in romance and yet still goes on the date, she definitely won't go as far to create an emotional or physical bond with the other person.
Also proper date is somewhat of a misnomer. The goal is to set up/go on several multiple quality dates with a person. By going on multiple dates where ideas, goals, and interests are being share/expressed, both parties exhibit clear intent/effort toward prusuing a romantic relationship.
But people now a days do everything backwards, expect a result and if they don't get what they want, they proceed to judge.
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Posted by EllygantI'd say continue to stand in your truth and be who you are. The needs more sincerity 🙂Posted by beautifulsoul74YES THANK YOU.Posted by EllygantExactly and the reason being is that people have been trained to date out of exclusion, not inclusion. Hence the typical questions you get from people when out on a date(I court, not date). When I say exclusion, the questions that come when someone has that mentality is that they are asking to deduct(subtract) from that person and usually it's for "compatibility"...but you don't grow and ironically it's why most relationships fail...people don't have a growth or inclusive mentality. Yeah, they accumulate but that doesn't mean actual growth. It's really that simple. It's like all I see are tactics that divide out of love. It's like this stupid notion that you can bomb your way to peace. If someone truly wants love, your not going to get it or make it harder by using tactics and having a mentality that divisory.Posted by beautifulsoul74This!!!!!Posted by ChuckcemSimple answer? A lot of people are full of shit. That may be mean and may offend some people or sound cynical but I'm just being honest. It's boring...seriously boring. I see the same types of people put on a show everyday and that's both men and women. Nobody wants to be genuine anymore or develop any real depth to themselves. I'd much rather meet someone who is genuine and shows all their flaws(no matter how bad) than to be with someone who constantly hides themselves and I see their flaws "later" after I've committed myself. And yes, men do this equally as well and it's just as tragic. I'd like to meet a woman who fully accepts me for all my virtues and flaws.
So (correct me if I'm wrong) it sounds like there are users here who aren't fans of dating, or prefer not to date. Why is this? I myself am not a serial/compulsive dater, but I see the benefits of the process. Sounds like a lot of relationship issues can also be solved by going out on proper dates first. Thoughts?
EDIT: For those of you who do prefer to date, feel free to chime as well about your thoughts on dating.
I couldn't articulate this in my post so I jumped around a lot. But this sums it up well for me too.
I rarely leave dates feeling like I have learned anything, about the person or life in general.
My dating bereaved heart feel so comforted right now lol.
Its hard to explain that concept to people. Especially to those in my age range. It's like everyone falls into one of two categories, fucking or relationship hungry. And people don't know what to do with me because I'm neither. People have literally not comprehended me when I told them I didn't want a relationship but I really wanted to personally be involved in their life.
I was talking to someone about it recently and we empathized on how being too sincere backfires too. I'm so straightforward and sincere that people accuse me of playing some high level games lol. People have been dumbfounded by it.click to expand

Posted by beautifulsoul74Granted, a loooot of people are fine with wasting time. There are women who will go out with a guy just to get a free meal/get out of the house. That's also why I'm not a fan of online dating, blind dates, etc. I don't necessarily want/need to be friends with a woman first, but I will be "friendly" with a woman first to gauge her potential interest prior to dating.Posted by ChuckcemSimple answer? A lot of people are full of shit. That may be mean and may offend some people or sound cynical but I'm just being honest. It's boring...seriously boring. I see the same types of people put on a show everyday and that's both men and women. Nobody wants to be genuine anymore or develop any real depth to themselves. I'd much rather meet someone who is genuine and shows all their flaws(no matter how bad) than to be with someone who constantly hides themselves and I see their flaws "later" after I've committed myself. And yes, men do this equally as well and it's just as tragic. I'd like to meet a woman who fully accepts me for all my virtues and flaws.
So (correct me if I'm wrong) it sounds like there are users here who aren't fans of dating, or prefer not to date. Why is this? I myself am not a serial/compulsive dater, but I see the benefits of the process. Sounds like a lot of relationship issues can also be solved by going out on proper dates first. Thoughts?
EDIT: For those of you who do prefer to date, feel free to chime as well about your thoughts on dating.
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Posted by ChuckcemDating is complicated because we all have different views about it.Posted by AerazoRight, I would say that those guys should be disqualified if they can't be more direct. I completely understand wanting to get to know a woman first before spending any money on her, that's just smart. However a guy shouldn't expect to get far with a woman (at least not physically) if he doesn't show clear intent. If a woman is seeking a relationship, then that's where she also needs to be patient enough to hold out.Posted by ChuckcemThe sad truth is that most men aren't willing to spend their money on a woman they don't know well and prefer to "get-to-know" her by just hanging out, then they complain that she isn't interested. or per say, they got intimate then he has an excuse to "not work hard for it" when he should work even harder because she trusted him enough to expose that side of her to him.Posted by WonderlesswaveSolid question (this may all sound clinical too, but it's more natural than it sounds). My idea would be a date that is set at a definite time/location with the intent of getting to know someone in a romantic way. It is not a a scenario with a group of friends or even a hang out session, as the dynamic for these two situations can be very different than a date.
Whats your idea of a proper date ?
A proper date is designed to make it easy for people to get to know each other outside of a platonic friendship. by clarifying romantic intent. It's also a way for two people to flirt, share ideas, open communication, qualify each other's character, and create a bond that is specific to the two parties. If a man or woman sets up/agrees to a date, it shows there is effort being put forth from one or both parties to move towards a potential relationship.
Example, if a man (or masculine energy) asks someone out on a date(s), it shows that he not only has interest in the other person, but has the conviction to back up said interest with action. It shows he is both direct and confident in his approach, which are usually favorable traits. A man who isn't interested in a potential future will not waste time and money on multiple dates. Likewise a woman (or feminine energy) who is not interested may not waste her time on accepting multiple dates either. If she's disinterested in romance and yet still goes on the date, she definitely won't go as far to create an emotional or physical bond with the other person.
Also proper date is somewhat of a misnomer. The goal is to set up/go on several multiple quality dates with a person. By going on multiple dates where ideas, goals, and interests are being share/expressed, both parties exhibit clear intent/effort toward prusuing a romantic relationship.
But people now a days do everything backwards, expect a result and if they don't get what they want, they proceed to judge.
Guys have to contend with wishy-washy women as well. There are a lot of guys who are allowing themselves to be "led on" by women who simply don't have interest in them. To combat this, I've personally used dates to either qualify or disqualify the other person. My mentality is, "Are you in or are you out?" If a woman starts to act hot and cold, then I back away. It makes my decision making process a lot easier.click to expand

Posted by Capmercury87We have similar views on this!! 🙂 I know how people see this bad but if none of them is the one you would want to spend the rest of your life with, then why settle. UNTIL ONE person comes and changes your vision and you feel connected in mind body and soul then that's when you would know that you belong together. Someone you can share everything with and not worry about anyone else.
Whelp!
I really like a lot of people, I'm starting to learn that I'm more universal than I am a settler. I think people settle too often, no thought or depth out into their decision.
I like sharing passion with people, sex, laughs but that doesn't mean I have to be with them for the rest of my life, I'll return to the star dust I was when I'm done on this planet, and maybe I'll leave with a passion in my heart that I spent my life with the most amazing man alive, or I'll have the taste of a thousand beautiful souls on my tongue, a reminder of alk those moments in which I got to experience myself through them.


Posted by ChuckcemI just kept dating duds. And I have a very low tolerance for bs and almost too high self esteem so I was cutting people off left and right. Never made it past a few dates.Posted by LadyNeptuneRight. I know some people who date A LOT and it doesn't seem to work well either.
I was doing a ton of dating and nothing felt right. Then I ran into the ? at my old workplace and we hung out and it snowballed. Figures.click to expand

Posted by AerazoPosted by ChuckcemDating is complicated because we all have different views about it.Posted by AerazoRight, I would say that those guys should be disqualified if they can't be more direct. I completely understand wanting to get to know a woman first before spending any money on her, that's just smart. However a guy shouldn't expect to get far with a woman (at least not physically) if he doesn't show clear intent. If a woman is seeking a relationship, then that's where she also needs to be patient enough to hold out.Posted by ChuckcemThe sad truth is that most men aren't willing to spend their money on a woman they don't know well and prefer to "get-to-know" her by just hanging out, then they complain that she isn't interested. or per say, they got intimate then he has an excuse to "not work hard for it" when he should work even harder because she trusted him enough to expose that side of her to him.Posted by WonderlesswaveSolid question (this may all sound clinical too, but it's more natural than it sounds). My idea would be a date that is set at a definite time/location with the intent of getting to know someone in a romantic way. It is not a a scenario with a group of friends or even a hang out session, as the dynamic for these two situations can be very different than a date.
Whats your idea of a proper date ?
A proper date is designed to make it easy for people to get to know each other outside of a platonic friendship. by clarifying romantic intent. It's also a way for two people to flirt, share ideas, open communication, qualify each other's character, and create a bond that is specific to the two parties. If a man or woman sets up/agrees to a date, it shows there is effort being put forth from one or both parties to move towards a potential relationship.
Example, if a man (or masculine energy) asks someone out on a date(s), it shows that he not only has interest in the other person, but has the conviction to back up said interest with action. It shows he is both direct and confident in his approach, which are usually favorable traits. A man who isn't interested in a potential future will not waste time and money on multiple dates. Likewise a woman (or feminine energy) who is not interested may not waste her time on accepting multiple dates either. If she's disinterested in romance and yet still goes on the date, she definitely won't go as far to create an emotional or physical bond with the other person.
Also proper date is somewhat of a misnomer. The goal is to set up/go on several multiple quality dates with a person. By going on multiple dates where ideas, goals, and interests are being share/expressed, both parties exhibit clear intent/effort toward prusuing a romantic relationship.
But people now a days do everything backwards, expect a result and if they don't get what they want, they proceed to judge.
Guys have to contend with wishy-washy women as well. There are a lot of guys who are allowing themselves to be "led on" by women who simply don't have interest in them. To combat this, I've personally used dates to either qualify or disqualify the other person. My mentality is, "Are you in or are you out?" If a woman starts to act hot and cold, then I back away. It makes my decision making process a lot easier.
you saw my post last week :/ I personally prefer to meet someone and if I like him then casually hang out and get to know each other maybe during the first month and then I would hope for him to ask me out on a date if we like each other. if he doesn't then id assume that he isn't interested in me. The best thing is communication, no one wants to share their feelings or talk about them because they are afraid to be rejected and prefer to stay with the person to see if they show any signs and their feelings keep growing and at the end of the day the other person finds someone else.click to expand

Posted by piscesmoon2—That's not cause of dating though. There are various other factors at play.
the major problem is woman find men in bars... or online now these days... they fail at trying to interact with a person in there daily life often with similar interest. They are constantly or girls are presented with options... normally woman never just become friends with a guy they find him attractive. He hits on her she sleeps with him with out getting to know him for 30days 2 full moon cycles or 3 months the retro grade comes around. Then they can't understand why the guy is so unstable...
These days guys throw everything and a pretty face and can't keep it up...
Girls by continuing to allow this to happen are not marrying anymore... birth rates have plunged in the US and if they do have kids normally they are single mothers. Normally got with some cool guy with nothing and just chases woman and seems like he has a good social network.
Piscesmoon

Posted by LadyNeptuneYeah that comment seemed to be a bit disjointed.Posted by piscesmoon2—That's not cause of dating though. There are various other factors at play.
the major problem is woman find men in bars... or online now these days... they fail at trying to interact with a person in there daily life often with similar interest. They are constantly or girls are presented with options... normally woman never just become friends with a guy they find him attractive. He hits on her she sleeps with him with out getting to know him for 30days 2 full moon cycles or 3 months the retro grade comes around. Then they can't understand why the guy is so unstable...
These days guys throw everything and a pretty face and can't keep it up...
Girls by continuing to allow this to happen are not marrying anymore... birth rates have plunged in the US and if they do have kids normally they are single mothers. Normally got with some cool guy with nothing and just chases woman and seems like he has a good social network.
Piscesmoon
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Posted by EllygantVery cool. I actually set up multi-tiered dates for the reasons you mentioned. I don't see the point in doing movie dates or going to one place. It's all about keeping things dynamic and fun. Unfortunately a lot of guys apparently don't know how to do this.
I hate dating. I really do. I tried to convince myself that I liked it and could have fun doing it. But it seems like a huge output of energy for nothing.
Actual dates feel stifled, artificial. I often feel like I have to carry conversation and work to get to know the person, put them at ease. It feels like work, not fun. Most people are lackluster and not too creative either. Drinks. Maybe dinner. Or a movie. Awkward and boring at worst or a free drink and neutral chit chat at best.
Now if I went on a more personalized date I might have fun. A museum or something interactive where you're engaging with the person on multiple levels, that'd be awesome. My ex of five years planned dates like that and he's probably the only person I've traditionally dated and enjoyed it. Everyone else I've dated where actual dates were involved, was pretty standard and I lost interest.
I enjoy hanging out and being around friends though. I really like meeting new people. I like watching an interest interact with their friends and in their comfort zone, it can tell a lot about their character.
Most men are cheap as fuck too. And it's such a turn off. I often make less than them, but I'm always prepared on any date to pay for both myself or even both of us. As a result I feel free to spend as I choose since I'm fully ready to be responsible for it. But most men seem to begrudgingly pay, won't let me pay and then complain about how it's so expensive for life/dating. ?
When I date women I tend to be the initiating energy so I often plan dates tailored specifically to the girl's taste and pay for everything. I actually have had fun doing that.
But yeah there's my dating dissertation. 😆


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So (correct me if I'm wrong) it sounds like there are users here who aren't fans of dating, or prefer not to date. Why is this? I myself am not a serial/compulsive dater, but I see the benefits of the process. Sounds like a lot of relationship issues can also be solved by going out on proper dates first. Thoughts?
EDIT: For those of you who do prefer to date, feel free to chime as well about your thoughts on dating.