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@mzmee
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Posted by mzmeePosted by LadyTateSee that's the thing, you know she is still in love with him. So you know how she'll act. What I'm saying is his hand needs to be forced to deal with this the right way.Posted by mzmeeAlso... He has another baby momma who I get along with just fine. No issues or problems. Difference between the 2 baby Momma's is the other baby momma isn't still in love with him. So she has no problem with me being around her child. Matter of fact because she knows he works so much, she will call me when he can't get to it. It's called being grown and understanding that he has moved on. Hell my ex husband is dating someone I don't know to well. Am I supposed to act a fool with her simply because their together?
Technically, it's not her fault, it's his. Look at all the mess he's allowing to go on.
@LadyTate
At this point, the best thing for you to do is back off. That doesn't mean stop dealing with him but simply separate your lives from each other. You need to force his hand to get his shit together.
You don't need to be a part of discussions regarding his children. Unless the mother insists, then you do so. She holds the cards, he lets her deal them.
Do your own thing until he comes to his senses and create boundaries.
The other mom makes it easy, which is more than okay. That doesn't mean the asshole one has to follow suit.
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Posted by LadyTateYes he should have missed his class and prioritized his kid first. At the very least he should have informed his child's mother that he was unable to watch his kid.Posted by LadyNeptuneWhat are my true colors? No ones painting her out to be a villain. The facts are the facts. Am I a saint, in no way but I have not done anything to this woman for her to act the way she does. He had a mandatory class he had to attend for work. He had no one else to watch the child. It was his weekend. Every Sat we take the kids to do something. What was I supposed to do? Cancel the plans with the other kids so we could all stay home to pamper how she would react? Or was he supposed to miss class because he had no one else to keep the baby? Like really... Let's think about this logically!
If you truly cared about the well being of this child you would stop meddling in affairs that don't concern you. Because of you this child is now deprived of seeing his father.
Ironic really that as the architect of this story you painted her as the villain and you as the Saint. And inspite of all that the entire viewing audience still sees your true colors.click to expand
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by LadyTateYes he should have missed his class and prioritized his kid first. At the very least he should have informed his child's mother that he was unable to watch his kid.Posted by LadyNeptuneWhat are my true colors? No ones painting her out to be a villain. The facts are the facts. Am I a saint, in no way but I have not done anything to this woman for her to act the way she does. He had a mandatory class he had to attend for work. He had no one else to watch the child. It was his weekend. Every Sat we take the kids to do something. What was I supposed to do? Cancel the plans with the other kids so we could all stay home to pamper how she would react? Or was he supposed to miss class because he had no one else to keep the baby? Like really... Let's think about this logically!
If you truly cared about the well being of this child you would stop meddling in affairs that don't concern you. Because of you this child is now deprived of seeing his father.
Ironic really that as the architect of this story you painted her as the villain and you as the Saint. And inspite of all that the entire viewing audience still sees your true colors.
Yes you should have stayed home. Missing out on an afternoon of fun with some random kids pales in comparison to missing out on seeing your father for weeks.
Everyone else here except you can see the logic of this.
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Posted by LadyTateOnly logic I'm seeing in some of these posts are the logic of bitter woman. If I am no longer with a man then who cares who he's with or what he's doing. When it comes to my kids, as long as they are being well taken care of, no harm is being done to them, why act an ass?Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by LadyTateYes he should have missed his class and prioritized his kid first. At the very least he should have informed his child's mother that he was unable to watch his kid.Posted by LadyNeptuneWhat are my true colors? No ones painting her out to be a villain. The facts are the facts. Am I a saint, in no way but I have not done anything to this woman for her to act the way she does. He had a mandatory class he had to attend for work. He had no one else to watch the child. It was his weekend. Every Sat we take the kids to do something. What was I supposed to do? Cancel the plans with the other kids so we could all stay home to pamper how she would react? Or was he supposed to miss class because he had no one else to keep the baby? Like really... Let's think about this logically!
If you truly cared about the well being of this child you would stop meddling in affairs that don't concern you. Because of you this child is now deprived of seeing his father.
Ironic really that as the architect of this story you painted her as the villain and you as the Saint. And inspite of all that the entire viewing audience still sees your true colors.
Yes you should have stayed home. Missing out on an afternoon of fun with some random kids pales in comparison to missing out on seeing your father for weeks.
Everyone else here except you can see the logic of this.
So he was supposed to risk his job to stay home? Had he missed the training and lost his job and wasn't able to support his child, then he would be labeled as a deadbeat. And as stated before... It was his weekend with the child. She made it very clear that it is his responsibility to find care for the child when he is with him. Had he told her, the situation would've still been the same. She would've either said "oh well, that's ur problem or would've come to get the child in which he wouldnt have let her take the child because the last time she had to pick the baby up from early she didn't let the baby come back for weeks using that as an excuse.
And why should the other kids have suffered? This was a planned day that they were looking forward to. And please tell me what gives a mother reason to keep a child from their father when no harm was done? The child was fed and well taken care of. He was at no time in any danger.click to expand
Posted by ElleDuMonde
I don't have anymore to add then I did the last few threads....
However, I will say that since this is an astrology site....
Please read more about venus in libra and mars in virgo.
Your venus is out of control, tbh. You may not kow what this means but ypu are right in the middle of this disaster and won't be able to see it until it's too late anyways
Perhaps if you read about it, you can eventually self reflect to see exactly why you are doing what you are doing. It's not healthy and this is not the kind of currency you want to use for love. You need to find some much needed balance, for real.

Posted by LadyTateIf he can't fulfill his obligations he owes it to inform the mother he can't watch the kid. That is what a person of integrity would do.
And please tell me what gives a mother reason to keep a child from their father when no harm was done? The child was fed and well taken care of. He was at no time in any danger.

Posted by Arielle83I'm hoping you can still see this, even though you've blocked her because she really is summing this up you nicely. Personally, I am shocked at your behavior and the hurt you are causing this child and your refusal to even consider that what people are saying to you in this thread might just might be on point. You need to just sit down for a minute and let this child's parents work this out - this is none of your business, period.
You know she's jealous of what you got and what she doesn't have. Yet you don't care.
The extra slap in the face is you being around the baby she had with him. You try to play wifey and mommy by buying shoes etc.
You bring out resentment and manipulation and drama.
You don't respect time or boundaries.
Now if your dumb, dismissive a $ $ didn't block me, you'd see how simple I make it for your self serving head, to understand.

Posted by LadyNeptuneOk, he should've told her. Then what? He still would've told me to take the child with me because he was not going to let her pick the child up. Secondly... Ur taking it to the extreme. No one drowned and no one was hurt. There were plenty enough life guards there if anything were to happen. But nothing did so delete that out of the situation. Not one time did I say I eye hawked the child. No parent can say they have their eye on their child or other pls children every sec. Otherwise kids wouldn't have scrapes and bruises. Anyway... As far as my kids... My kids are older and can swim very well. So can his other son. I just kept my eye out for them and made sure they were in sight. The baby along with my youngest and I stayed in the shollow end where they both could stand up above the water and they also had on floated. So pls... Don't try to make a mountain out of a mole hill to prove a point.Posted by LadyTateIf he can't fulfill his obligations he owes it to inform the mother he can't watch the kid. That is what a person of integrity would do.
And please tell me what gives a mother reason to keep a child from their father when no harm was done? The child was fed and well taken care of. He was at no time in any danger.
Instead you two blindside her.
Children in water is one of the most dangerous senerios. Even children that are good swimmers can get fatigue and drown. All it takes is inhaling a teaspoon of water and a child can dry drown hours later.
You had your other children to watch as well so your attention wasn't solely on her child...click to expand

Posted by LadyTate
Only logic I'm seeing in some of these posts are the logic of bitter woman.
Yasss we are all so so very bitter. And jealous of you.
I for one am green with envy that I haven't found a man that is as free with his dick as to have kids from every female he encounters. Your one lucky woman. Well one of many apparently.

Posted by LadyTateNo my point stands.Posted by LadyNeptuneOk, he should've told her. Then what? He still would've told me to take the child with me because he was not going to let her pick the child up. Secondly... Ur taking it to the extreme. No one drowned and no one was hurt. There were plenty enough life guards there if anything were to happen. But nothing did so delete that out of the situation. Not one time did I say I eye hawked the child. No parent can say they have their eye on their child or other pls children every sec. Otherwise kids wouldn't have scrapes and bruises. Anyway... As far as my kids... My kids are older and can swim very well. So can his other son. I just kept my eye out for them and made sure they were in sight. The baby along with my youngest and I stayed in the shollow end where they both could stand up above the water and they also had on floated. So pls... Don't try to make a mountain out of a mole hill to prove a point.Posted by LadyTateIf he can't fulfill his obligations he owes it to inform the mother he can't watch the kid. That is what a person of integrity would do.
And please tell me what gives a mother reason to keep a child from their father when no harm was done? The child was fed and well taken care of. He was at no time in any danger.
Instead you two blindside her.
Children in water is one of the most dangerous senerios. Even children that are good swimmers can get fatigue and drown. All it takes is inhaling a teaspoon of water and a child can dry drown hours later.
You had your other children to watch as well so your attention wasn't solely on her child...click to expand
Posted by mzmeeI fully understand she is bitter but no matter what there will always be a problem with something. If he would've missed class and got fired then he's a dead beat for not sending a check. He made arraignments that didnt cause her to cancel her plans and so he can make it to class and that makes me a meddler...
All I'm saying is this...
We know she's bitter, we've inboxed each other about this. Don't add fuel to the fire. You see the type of person she is, it's only gonna get worse until the proper checks and balances are in place.
I'm not a bitter baby momma and would be glad if my soon to be ex had someone around my child that would look out for him like he was her own. I don't understand women that don't see things in this perspective. No lie, I would want to meet her first because, at the end of the day, that's my baby. Anything happens to him, I have to deal with as well as his father. He could fly off the face of the earth and I'll still be the primary care giver.
It's gotta be something he can do in the meantime. Is his name on the birth certificate?
It's not your fault at all but at the best interest of the child, you have the power to minimize the damage.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by LadyTateNo my point stands.Posted by LadyNeptuneOk, he should've told her. Then what? He still would've told me to take the child with me because he was not going to let her pick the child up. Secondly... Ur taking it to the extreme. No one drowned and no one was hurt. There were plenty enough life guards there if anything were to happen. But nothing did so delete that out of the situation. Not one time did I say I eye hawked the child. No parent can say they have their eye on their child or other pls children every sec. Otherwise kids wouldn't have scrapes and bruises. Anyway... As far as my kids... My kids are older and can swim very well. So can his other son. I just kept my eye out for them and made sure they were in sight. The baby along with my youngest and I stayed in the shollow end where they both could stand up above the water and they also had on floated. So pls... Don't try to make a mountain out of a mole hill to prove a point.Posted by LadyTateIf he can't fulfill his obligations he owes it to inform the mother he can't watch the kid. That is what a person of integrity would do.
And please tell me what gives a mother reason to keep a child from their father when no harm was done? The child was fed and well taken care of. He was at no time in any danger.
Instead you two blindside her.
Children in water is one of the most dangerous senerios. Even children that are good swimmers can get fatigue and drown. All it takes is inhaling a teaspoon of water and a child can dry drown hours later.
You had your other children to watch as well so your attention wasn't solely on her child...
If a person you did not trust took your young child to swim without your consent you'd be alarmed, angry, furious even.
You and he are in the wrong here. Her reaction is natural and justified.
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Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by LadyTate
Only logic I'm seeing in some of these posts are the logic of bitter woman.
Yasss we are all so so very bitter. And jealous of you.
I for one am green with envy that I haven't found a man that is as free with his dick as to have kids from every female he encounters. Your one lucky woman. Well one of many apparently.click to expand
Lol... Ur jealous of something obviously! Maybe u are one of those bitter baby Momma's I was speaking of to take offense. And I am one lucky woman. Thanks for noticing boo.

Posted by LadyTatePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by LadyTateSo obvious. Lmao don't overestimate youself.
Only logic I'm seeing in some of these posts are the logic of bitter woman.
Yasss we are all so so very bitter. And jealous of you.
I for one am green with envy that I haven't found a man that is as free with his dick as to have kids from every female he encounters. Your one lucky woman. Well one of many apparently.
Lol... Ur jealous of something obviously! Maybe u are one of those bitter baby Momma's I was speaking of to take offense. And I am one lucky woman. Thanks for noticing boo.
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Posted by AriesLoveFree daycare and pussy. It's every deadbeat dads wet dream!Posted by LadyTateYou aren't a certified day care facility. Most parents know of the daycare their child is attending.Posted by mzmee
Technically, it's not her fault, it's his. Look at all the mess he's allowing to go on.
@LadyTate
At this point, the best thing for you to do is back off. That doesn't mean stop dealing with him but simply separate your lives from each other. You need to force his hand to get his shit together.
You don't need to be a part of discussions regarding his children. Unless the mother insists, then you do so. She holds the cards, he lets her deal them.
Do your own thing until he comes to his senses and create boundaries.
The discussion was so we all could clear the air and find the root of her problem with me and why there is so much BS with the situation. Not necessarily about the child or what even happened. As far as him taking steps he is. He has filed for established visitation. He's waiting on the court date to come. Idk what more he can do? He can't force her to act right. I mean... When he asked me to take his son with me and the rest of the kids while he went to class, ahe was the furthers thing from either of our minds. Again... When the child is with him, it is his responsibility to find care for him if he has things to do. What would've been the difference in me taking the child or him dropping the child to a "drop off" daycare where neither of the parents know who's caring for the child?
You are doing too much, putting too much into this situation because you like drama. You think you have won a prize but in reality no one wants to deal with this extra sh1t from a man and his baby mama. No one but your selfish a $ $ .
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Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by LadyTatePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by LadyTateSo obvious. Lmao don't overestimate youself.
Only logic I'm seeing in some of these posts are the logic of bitter woman.
Yasss we are all so so very bitter. And jealous of you.
I for one am green with envy that I haven't found a man that is as free with his dick as to have kids from every female he encounters. Your one lucky woman. Well one of many apparently.
Lol... Ur jealous of something obviously! Maybe u are one of those bitter baby Momma's I was speaking of to take offense. And I am one lucky woman. Thanks for noticing boo.
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U have me over here kmsl. I would nit want to be ur baby daddy. I'd shoot my damn self

Posted by LadyTateShe's not the SOLE provider but she's the primary. Remember that... The baby is residing with her until legal arrangements have been made.I fully understand she is bitter but no matter what there will always be a problem with something. If he would've missed class and got fired then he's a dead beat for not sending a check. He made arraignments that didnt cause her to cancel her plans and so he can make it to class and that makes me a meddler...
I've never had a problem with meeting her and letting her get to know me. Matter of fact, she had plenty of opportunities when I was bringing Hun ha to her for her son. If she felt I was a "threat" to her child, that would've been the time to approach me. He tried his hardest to be there for the child as much as he can. School events, sports, church events, whatever the child has going on. He sends a childsupport check and still spends out of pocket if the child needs. Not saying money solves everything but she cant say she's the sole provider of the baby.
Yes he is in the birth certificate. Which means (for the state we live in) that they both have equal custody rights until it is established by the courts. So if he wanted to be ugly, he could take the child and not return the child to her and there is nothing the mother can do until she takes him to court and vise versa.
I usually stay out of what is going on between them until I am brought into it. I will not sit back a be disrespected (referring to her trying to sleep with him) and not say anything. As far as minamizing drama, I try to stay out of the way. I've stopped dropping things to her and I just let her wait until he's home to do it. But in this situation... I don't know what else I could've done differently. I could've stayed home and disappointed all the other kids but why when no harm was intentionally being done. Maybe because I have never been the bitter baby momma, I can't understand the problem.click to expand

Posted by mzmeeThank u hun
That's why I said primary care giver. In this instance, he's the secondary.
Even outside the getting permission, she can say you did anything to her child. The thing is, you just don't know. I've seen how bitter bitches can be, I've witnessed this shit first hand and gave her the I told you so every step of her dumb ass way.
Just be careful and think about the baby. I hope everything works out for you two.
Posted by sunkisses26I'm open to listen to advice but I will shut it down when the sarcasm and the rude comments start.
I read over the comments in this thread and I can say that @AriesLove and @Arielle83 are giving you REALLY good as advice but your dismissing them cause it isn't what you wanna hear...you keep pretending to be open to everyone's advice but ...you only listen to those who are on board with how YOU feel ...I'm not saying this to be mean ....but please take their advice in to consideration

Posted by LadyTateGood, then you've been spared.Posted by aquapiscescuspNo. I don't know who that is.
You are James Tate's wife?click to expand
Posted by aquapiscescuspLol... Ok...—Posted by LadyTateGood, then you've been spared.Posted by aquapiscescuspNo. I don't know who that is.
You are James Tate's wife?click to expand

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The other mom makes it easy, which is more than okay. That doesn't mean the asshole one has to follow suit.