Selfish

why are you Sagg's so Selfish? not all of you probably, but the guy I am dating is so fucking selfish. Yesterday I text him in the morning to ask if he wanted to have dinner and drinks that evening around 7 or 8pm, he replied that his grandma may be getting out the hospital so he would keep me posted. Eleven o'clock rolls around, by then my sister and cousin had ask me to have drinks I accepted, maybe I should have texted him to make sure that he didn't want to see me. around 11:20 p.m, he text me "Hey you" starts a conversation asking what I am doing and I say "nothing much" but his pisces moon is so psyhic he figures I am up to something and he lets me know that. I can't lie to him so I tell him the truth that I am out, he get's an attitude and says goodnight it's cool so I replied "love you, gd night", and he replies "if you love me, you would be at home or something along those lines and me being the smart ass I am, I say well let me go home and stare at the wall, he goes "f_you don't get smart". At this point I think he is being selfish, I ask you first if you wanted to do something he never text/call me back so I went on with my day, he wants to call me late and then expects me to me at home waiting I guess. It doesn't work like that, I would never ask him to wait around till I am finish doing things if I know it's going to be so late.

Posted by everevolvingepithet
It might be because his Grandma is in hospital so he's acting a bit snippy/expectant of you in some way ?

This could be, he is very tempermental right now, I rather not deal with it but I don't want to seem like I don't care..

Regardless Signs, "selfish" is just one of human's nature!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everybody wants to be "self-centered".......get all attentions & affections from others.......so humans are ALL "selfish".

Not only Sags........You too........and so everybody is in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😉

Posted by scorpdiva
why are you Sagg's so Selfish? not all of you probably, but the guy I am dating is so fucking selfish. Yesterday I text him in the morning to ask if he wanted to have dinner and drinks that evening around 7 or 8pm, he replied that his grandma may be getting out the hospital so he would keep me posted. Eleven o'clock rolls around, by then my sister and cousin had ask me to have drinks I accepted, maybe I should have texted him to make sure that he didn't want to see me. around 11:20 p.m, he text me "Hey you" starts a conversation asking what I am doing and I say "nothing much" but his pisces moon is so psyhic he figures I am up to something and he lets me know that. I can't lie to him so I tell him the truth that I am out, he get's an attitude and says goodnight it's cool so I replied "love you, gd night", and he replies "if you love me, you would be at home or something along those lines and me being the smart ass I am, I say well let me go home and stare at the wall, he goes "f_you don't get smart". At this point I think he is being selfish, I ask you first if you wanted to do something he never text/call me back so I went on with my day, he wants to call me late and then expects me to me at home waiting I guess. It doesn't work like that, I would never ask him to wait around till I am finish doing things if I know it's going to be so late.

i DEFINITELY see his point. you cant stay your ass in the home for one night— waiting for DADDY to come home and put it on ya...

question, have you ever stayed home and just waited for him to call or to come by. even if it werent definite...but just waited. my sag digs the shit outta that and so does the scorp. it lets them know that you are wanting to spend time with him and him only. fuck the world. i want you boo.

Posted by luckystar007
Regardless Signs, "selfish" is just one of human's nature!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everybody wants to be "self-centered".......get all attentions & affections from others.......so humans are ALL "selfish".

Not only Sags........You too........and so everybody is in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😉

I guess you have a point there 🙂
but in regards to this post, I mean being selfish with feelings, he only cares about his feelings and what he wants without regards of my feelings having me wait on him all day, I would never do that.
I won't say this about sagg females, but with some sagg males they only think of their own feelings and point of views.

I can see both sides and seeing that Im a scorp male I have had this situation. Did you text him again before you left the house to reassure he was not in the mood to go out?

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Posted by scorpdiva
why are you Sagg's so Selfish? not all of you probably, but the guy I am dating is so fucking selfish. Yesterday I text him in the morning to ask if he wanted to have dinner and drinks that evening around 7 or 8pm, he replied that his grandma may be getting out the hospital so he would keep me posted. Eleven o'clock rolls around, by then my sister and cousin had ask me to have drinks I accepted, maybe I should have texted him to make sure that he didn't want to see me. around 11:20 p.m, he text me "Hey you" starts a conversation asking what I am doing and I say "nothing much" but his pisces moon is so psyhic he figures I am up to something and he lets me know that. I can't lie to him so I tell him the truth that I am out, he get's an attitude and says goodnight it's cool so I replied "love you, gd night", and he replies "if you love me, you would be at home or something along those lines and me being the smart ass I am, I say well let me go home and stare at the wall, he goes "f_you don't get smart". At this point I think he is being selfish, I ask you first if you wanted to do something he never text/call me back so I went on with my day, he wants to call me late and then expects me to me at home waiting I guess. It doesn't work like that, I would never ask him to wait around till I am finish doing things if I know it's going to be so late.

i DEFINITELY see his point. you cant stay your ass in the home for one night— waiting for DADDY to come home and put it on ya...

question, have you ever stayed home and just waited for him to call or to come by. even if it werent definite...but just waited. my sag digs the shit outta that and so does the scorp. it lets them know that you are wanting to spend time with him and him only. fuck the world. i want you boo.

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Yes too many times to count.
that makes sense though, maybe wants to feel like that I am waiting on him and don't care about hanging out. I actually cut my going out a lot and he is please with that. I am going to try to meet him half way in this situation for now and on and see how he acts for a change.

Posted by scorp1110
I can see both sides and seeing that Im a scorp male I have had this situation. Did you text him again before you left the house to reassure he was not in the mood to go out?

No, this is where I question myself
maybe I should have text him before I left, but with this option he sometimes still get an attitude when I go out period so I figure why bother him he is busy with his family(grandma).

I see your point there also. Sometimes texting and asking a question may work and sometimes not. What I have learned are both signs don't like to be controlled but like to control their lives so I'm not sure I can give you a right answer to your question.

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Posted by luckystar007
Regardless Signs, "selfish" is just one of human's nature!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everybody wants to be "self-centered".......get all attentions & affections from others.......so humans are ALL "selfish".

Not only Sags........You too........and so everybody is in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😉

I guess you have a point there 🙂
but in regards to this post, I mean being selfish with feelings, he only cares about his feelings and what he wants without regards of my feelings having me wait on him all day, I would never do that.
I won't say this about sagg females, but with some sagg males they only think of their own feelings and point of views.

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In general, males are more "selfish" than females....... 🙂

If he became more "selfish" to you, then you can do the "same" to him.....it is good to keep "equal" in a relationship. 😉

Don't be afraid to lose him. It is NOT worthy to keep someone who doesn't care about you as much as you want.

Good luck!!! 🙂

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Posted by scorpdiva

Posted by luckystar007
Regardless Signs, "selfish" is just one of human's nature!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everybody wants to be "self-centered".......get all attentions & affections from others.......so humans are ALL "selfish".

Not only Sags........You too........and so everybody is in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😉

I guess you have a point there 🙂
but in regards to this post, I mean being selfish with feelings, he only cares about his feelings and what he wants without regards of my feelings having me wait on him all day, I would never do that.
I won't say this about sagg females, but with some sagg males they only think of their own feelings and point of views.

In general, males are more "selfish" than females....... 🙂

If he became more "selfish" to you, then you can do the "same" to him.....it is good to keep "equal" in a relationship. 😉

Don't be afraid to lose him. It is NOT worthy to keep someone who doesn't care about you as much as you want.

Good luck!!! 🙂

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Thanks, I need it with him 😉

Posted by scorp1110
I see your point there also. Sometimes texting and asking a question may work and sometimes not. What I have learned are both signs don't like to be controlled but like to control their lives so I'm not sure I can give you a right answer to your question.

Yes, Control is the big issue with our relationship it's no way around it.

Posted by scorp1110
I see your point there also. Sometimes texting and asking a question may work and sometimes not. What I have learned are both signs don't like to be controlled but like to control their lives so I'm not sure I can give you a right answer to your question.

i concur

FYI

What's Love Got to Do With It is on TV.....

Well, I know he is still sleep, I am at work so I just sent him a good morning text we will see how his attitude is today with me.

Posted by DeadRingerr
It's not a question of selfishness, it's a question of common courtesy....A beautiful young lady asked him out for dinner and drinks, lucky guy!! Whats his problem?

You get it, I always say it's just common courtesy, I understand he has a lot going on therefore just letting me know not tonight would have been great, instead of waiting till 11 at night to txt me and I should be just waiting home patiently for you, I would never expect him to do that.

Posted by DeadRingerr
Whatever the case maybe with his grandmother, he could have sent you a quick text letting you know he couldn't make it. End of story. Plus why did you lie about being out with you're friends? nothing wrong with that! I would have just said "yeah, got tired of waiting for you, so I went out with my girls"

That the thing, he gets an attitude when I hang out, I didn't want to lie so I told him where I was then he got a even bigger attitude. I just feel like he has no consideration for my time, I always ask him in advance if he wants to hang out and etc, I have a life, kids, etc so I deserve to enjoy myself, I always give him first dibs but waiting is not my best quality so I kept it moving.

Posted by DeadRingerr
Never ask a man out, that was you're first mistake!

We have been dating on and off for a little over 2years so I was being nice making plans with him since he has been going through a lot with his family. it's not like we just meet and I asked him out, we always make plans like that he either ask what I am doing that day or I do. Although he normally waits on me to do everything in regards to making plans but this is his personality which I don't mind, I like to have control of that area.

Posted by DeadRingerr
You also go through alot being a single mother....I know how difficult it can be.

Yes it is, not to mention I am a full-time student just received my degree, graudation in May and I started a Master's program last month. I am also very stubborn also which is why we bump heads a lot, I do love him that's why I am giving our relationship a fair shot, but of course I can only deal with so much. We will see only time will tell.

Posted by Sutekh
Sag's are selfish like Aries, and Leo. Scorpios are also selfish I dont see why the confusion.This is the problem with people that dont have any air smh.

Ofcourse you don't see the confusion you are a sagg men Lol,
but neither of us has air in our charts

Posted by Sutekh
Sag's are selfish like Aries, and Leo. Scorpios are also selfish I dont see why the confusion.This is the problem with people that dont have any air smh.

i am admittedly selfish but mutable at the same time.

Posted by Dominooo
You were being passive aggressive becuase he was seeing his grandmother and not you..I'd be annoyed too.

You should of just told him that you were out drinking and you'd catch up tomorrow or something or invite him out.

Read my post again, I asked him if he wanted to hang out he said I will keep u posted my grandmother may get out the hospital today, that was fine with me I went to hang out with my girls. HE contacted me that night around 11pm to see what I was doing, at first I said nothing much but he ask more questions then I told him I was out. HE caught the attitude cause I was out and not at home waiting on his call, why should he be annoyed he had time to be with his family I didn't bother him again although he said he would keep me posted, I had no issue with him being with his grandmother instead of me as you can see I have a LIFE, finding something else to do is NO PROBLEM for me. His family should come first I know mine would.....

Posted by Dominooo
You were being passive aggressive becuase he was seeing his grandmother and not you..I'd be annoyed too.

You should of just told him that you were out drinking and you'd catch up tomorrow or something or invite him out.

Also if you think I was being passive aggressive it was not because I wanted him to be with me instead of his grandmother, it's the concept of common courtesy if you are busy. I could be in the hospital with my kids but I have .5 seconds to txt you and say go ahead and enjoy ur day I will be busy all day, ENOUGH SAID, it's not that complicated, but don't come texting at 11pm at night like you don't give a fuck about someone else time.

Thanks mzSag, I see your point exactly I should have been up front with him from jump, his mars is in Scorpio and Venus in sagg.

"at first I said nothing much but he ask more questions then I told him I was out."

Why did you do that? And you wonder why he cussed you out. Don't be confusing, be a bit more upfront about what you're doing, nobody likes a sneaky person that say one thing and doing something else.

You started this so yeah he gave you a heavy dose of dog food to feed off of lol. If you weren't being selfish about your whereabouts most likely the outcome would have been different.

This thread is so interesting see the contrast between the two signs. I see where tiki33 is coming from but as a scorpio I also always give the answer nothing much, when asked a question.

I hate to do this but can I get some insight on my question from you sag women in the forum. It's called Sag Woman question? Sorry Scorpdiva!!! Please forgive my rudeness

Now now play nice

Posted by Dominooo
Like omg...my boyfriend doesn't contact me on my time because he is helping his grandmother out of the hospital so I act like a cow when he eventually contacts me. Slike wtf, so I act all prissy and be all passive aggressive of where I am because I'm more important then his closer family and I deserve no mistakes and be at the top of his hierarchy for importance.

Gezz...give this guy a break.

i dont agree with the choice of words, but i do agree with what he is trying to say.

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Posted by Dominooo
Like omg...my boyfriend doesn't contact me on my time because he is helping his grandmother out of the hospital so I act like a cow when he eventually contacts me. Slike wtf, so I act all prissy and be all passive aggressive of where I am because I'm more important then his closer family and I deserve no mistakes and be at the top of his hierarchy for importance.

Gezz...give this guy a break.

i dont agree with the choice of words, but i do agree with what he is trying to say.

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Lol, I see his point

Posted by tiki33
"at first I said nothing much but he ask more questions then I told him I was out."

Why did you do that? And you wonder why he cussed you out. Don't be confusing, be a bit more upfront about what you're doing, nobody likes a sneaky person that say one thing and doing something else.

You started this so yeah he gave you a heavy dose of dog food to feed off of lol. If you weren't being selfish about your whereabouts most likely the outcome would have been different.

I have been up front with him before once about going out and he hung up on me in my face, there no way to tell him that without him getting upset. I always say nothing as the other scorp mention that not trying to hide anything.
but thanks for your feedback.

Hi Scorp! I am glad that you went out when you didn't hear from your Sag. I can see where he would be pissed that you "avoided" telling him you were out right away. But you were trying to avoid a confrontation that you knew was coming, lol. I have to admit that I have done what your Sag guy did more than once. And even though I knew I should've called or texted, I didn't. It wasnt because I didnt love or care about the person, it was because I tend to avoid people at times when I am under stress. Then when I have collected myself, I will call. Maybe in the future a quick " is everything ok?" text would've given him the nudge to call you.

Sounds like you need a NEW man, one that is considerate of you and your feelings...Why are you dating someone that hangs up in your face? He seems more than just selfish, insecure immature assclown is appropriate too.

You don't owe him shit really, not even an explanation, he wanted you to WAIT on him like your waiting for a damn doggy treat, as if you're really that desperate, he can put a ring on it if he wants to keep tabs on you.

Posted by tiki33
Sounds like you need a NEW man, one that is considerate of you and your feelings...Why are you dating someone that hangs up in your face? He seems more than just selfish, insecure immature assclown is appropriate too.

You don't owe him shit really, not even an explanation, he wanted you to WAIT on him like your waiting for a damn doggy treat, as if you're really that desperate, he can put a ring on it if he wants to keep tabs on you.

That's what I am saying if you wanna keep tabs like that "put a ring on it"

Posted by TheLadySagittarius
Hi Scorp! I am glad that you went out when you didn't hear from your Sag. I can see where he would be pissed that you "avoided" telling him you were out right away. But you were trying to avoid a confrontation that you knew was coming, lol. I have to admit that I have done what your Sag guy did more than once. And even though I knew I should've called or texted, I didn't. It wasnt because I didnt love or care about the person, it was because I tend to avoid people at times when I am under stress. Then when I have collected myself, I will call. Maybe in the future a quick " is everything ok?" text would've given him the nudge to call you.

thanks lady sagg, we actually talk things out last night so I am glad that we got out our feelings and cleared any miss understandings.....

Posted by aquansidenout
Coming from a woman dating a sag sun/venus herself I wish a mf would contact me hours after I invited them out then expect to have the ordasity to get smart. Family problems or not I'm his woman and not calling and filling me in on your granny's prognosis or atleast turning down my invite is what I would of gotten. I understand people can be forgetful but in relationships that ish don't fly with me. Had he text me at 11:20 he would of been calling after that point cause I don't answer late text. Late text or designated in the bootycall arena. Call me like a man and say something.

+2 on that and if he's calling at 11:20 that's booty call time, sounds as if he was OUT DOING something besides thinking about his grandma and once he was free he prioritized spending time with you.

Posted by aquansidenout
If you don't tell a person something then you want know. You two definitely have a brake down of communication. If you want this relationship to last you got to learn how to be more upfront and not letting him lead or you lead and start in the same direction together. That situation could of gone a whole lot differently had you said never mind about going out seeing as though you're dealing with this but call me if you want to talk. I on the other hand will probably hang out with friends later just to unwind. I love you let me know how things go. The end. You left him knowing you cared and that you'd be there to comfort but that you still want to get out. No hiding or lying just straight up.

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To add to her powerful words..

You seem to like drama or like to create drama and thus you gravitate towards neglectful, selfish, abusive type men. I mean what do you expect from a man if that's how you roll?

So maybe it's not him, it's you, I'm speculating but you seem to communicate in a way that pisses a man off, grow up a little, be a bit more adult in how you communicate because right now you're at juvenile level and (men) this particular man tends to stoop down to your level, I speculate you gravitate towards neglectful, selfish, toxic, abusive men because you stay when a man is cussing you out, you stay when he hangs up in your face, you walk on egg shells around him about going out b/c in the past he would blast off on you, you allow your man to make plans after 9pm and you most likely hook up after 9 which isn't a date, that's a booty call....You ARE TEACHING HIM how to treat you and now he know he can pop off about you being out, he can hang up in your face, cuss you out and talk it out later so he's being taught he can let his aggression OUT ONTO YOU and still make up later. SMDH that has to stop for real, try setting some boundaries.

"Considerate" does not exist in Sag's vocabulary. They are so wrapped up in themselves and their needs, they don't really stop and think about others. When you call them out on it, they get upset and pissed at you. They NEVER understand where you're coming from and just get offended because they cannot fathom at all what it is that they've done wrong. They can do no wrong! How dare you get mad at them!

In this case, while you shouldn't have given the run around about where you were, he really had no place getting upset because you decided to go out. You're allowed to have a life outside of him. For him to think that you should sit at home waiting while he's tending to family issues is a load of crap.

You mentioned that he tends to get upset when you're out anyway. That in itself is ridiculous and really controlling. He can but you can't? I don't think so. You may want to nip that in the bud, regardless or lack of communication or not. A relationship is supposed to be mutually beneficial in a sense. Not something where he can control you and have his way all the time while you have to do all the compromising. That is just a set up for total failure.

Also, as others have mentioned, WHY did he wait so long to get in touch with you? Booty call hours? Really? Was he upset because you weren't at home waiting so he could come get some or what?

While I can understand some of the points others brought up against you, he's being a selfish dick. It's not that surprising coming from a Sag guy though. They're absolutely ridiculous when it comes to consideration of others.

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Posted by aquansidenout
If you don't tell a person something then you want know. You two definitely have a brake down of communication. If you want this relationship to last you got to learn how to be more upfront and not letting him lead or you lead and start in the same direction together. That situation could of gone a whole lot differently had you said never mind about going out seeing as though you're dealing with this but call me if you want to talk. I on the other hand will probably hang out with friends later just to unwind. I love you let me know how things go. The end. You left him knowing you cared and that you'd be there to comfort but that you still want to get out. No hiding or lying just straight up.

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To add to her powerful words..

You seem to like drama or like to create drama and thus you gravitate towards neglectful, selfish, abusive type men. I mean what do you expect from a man if that's how you roll?

So maybe it's not him, it's you, I'm speculating but you seem to communicate in a way that pisses a man off, grow up a little, be a bit more adult in how you communicate because right now you're at juvenile level and (men) this particular man tends to stoop down to your level, I speculate you gravitate towards neglectful, selfish, toxic, abusive men because you stay when a man is cussing you out, you stay when he hangs up in your face, you walk on egg shells around him about going out b/c in the past he would blast off on you, you allow your man to make plans after 9pm and you most likely hook up after 9 which isn't a date, that's a booty call....You ARE TEACHING HIM how to treat you and now he know he can pop off about you being out, he can hang up in your face, cuss you out and talk it out later so he's being taught he can let his aggression OUT ONTO YOU and still make up later. SMDH that has to stop for real, try setting some boundaries.

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Agreed. But Scorpio women can be the epitome of doormat. Are you really surprised?

She hasn't given a lot of detail here, but if he's this much of a dick all the time, she needs to kick him to the curb.

Posted by rockyroadicecream
"Considerate" does not exist in Sag's vocabulary. They are so wrapped up in themselves and their needs, they don't really stop and think about others. When you call them out on it, they get upset and pissed at you. They NEVER understand where you're coming from and just get offended because they cannot fathom at all what it is that they've done wrong. They can do no wrong! How dare you get mad at them!

In this case, while you shouldn't have given the run around about where you were, he really had no place getting upset because you decided to go out. You're allowed to have a life outside of him. For him to think that you should sit at home waiting while he's tending to family issues is a load of crap.

You mentioned that he tends to get upset when you're out anyway. That in itself is ridiculous and really controlling. He can but you can't? I don't think so. You may want to nip that in the bud, regardless or lack of communication or not. A relationship is supposed to be mutually beneficial in a sense. Not something where he can control you and have his way all the time while you have to do all the compromising. That is just a set up for total failure.

Also, as others have mentioned, WHY did he wait so long to get in touch with you? Booty call hours? Really? Was he upset because you weren't at home waiting so he could come get some or what?

While I can understand some of the points others brought up against you, he's being a selfish dick. It's not that surprising coming from a Sag guy though. They're absolutely ridiculous when it comes to consideration of others.

!!!!!
THIS!!! IS THE TRUTH!
I hate Sag Men. I really do.
Dated one, he was a fucking selfish motherfucker too.
And the best thing was that he became a stalker.
He writes things like " I want my fucking necklace back and I will come to your house bla..." in FB. And no matter what I say, he ignores it and continues with his bullshit. No matter what I say, even if I say I will call the police, he wont stop. I fucking hate him and I hope his death will be really painful.
he NEVER N E V E R understood me and my feelings.
So I totally understand if people might think all sags are this dumb.
Its a shame....

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Posted by Sutekh
Sag's are selfish like Aries, and Leo. Scorpios are also selfish I dont see why the confusion.This is the problem with people that dont have any air smh.

i am admittedly selfish but mutable at the same time.

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True. But Scorps are very selfish too...

Most of you ladies know what I am dealing with, the painful truth is some sagg's can be selfish we wont say all there is always exceptions to the rule.

The End, for the others thanks for your view points.......

It's crazy how on this site you talk about a simple issue and people take it that you are being abuse and taking shit you all don't know the half of everything, also on that one occassion when he hung up on me he called right back to apoologize.....

note to all: just discuss the question raised in the thread and stop assuming, it makes you look like an ASS....

Actually you look like an ASS not knowing the difference between being treated well and not being treated well, you seem to miss the internal instinct to know when a man is neglecting and disrespecting you considering you just take it and let him apologize for it later like that really means something, being a Sagittarius doesn't give him a pass to be neglectful--nor selfish--nor treat you like your property.

Clearly you don't know what being abused is or what being neglected is because it's not always about being hit physically, it can be mental and verbal and if he's cussing you out then that falls under the lines of verbal abuse, maybe your just used to be treated like shit that you don't know the difference and if you don't believe me or the others here then research it for yourself and you'll probably be surprised how much shit your taking falls in line with neglect.

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Posted by rockyroadicecream
"Considerate" does not exist in Sag's vocabulary.

So much bullshit there I could fertalize a farm.

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lol

Posted by scorpdiva
Most of you ladies know what I am dealing with, the painful truth is some sagg's can be selfish we wont say all there is always exceptions to the rule.

The End, for the others thanks for your view points.......

It's crazy how on this site you talk about a simple issue and people take it that you are being abuse and taking shit you all don't know the half of everything, also on that one occassion when he hung up on me he called right back to apoologize.....

note to all: just discuss the question raised in the thread and stop assuming, it makes you look like an ASS....

yeah i had a feeling it was going to go that route. sucks because you hardly post and when you do i really appreciate it.

ah man

wow lol