do scorpios involve quickly in a relationship? (Page 2)

"Well that sounds right...Is he stubborn and controlling?"

Stubborn, yes, but we both are. I just had my chart done (got tired of hearing people say there was no such thing as cusp so I needed to know) and b/c of my birth time/location, I'm Aquarius (I always thought I was anyway.).

Controlling? I don't know yet. How can I tell? He is a bit "touchy" though, meaning over-sensitive...at least in my opinion.

"...I'm not sure how to define evolved..."

The reason I asked about my scorpio man being an "evolved" scorpio was because of the title of this thread "do scorpios involve quickly in a relationship" and the general consensus seemed to be that they don't -- so I figured my guy was an exception -- and could this be b/c he is a more evolved scorp -- meaning that he is more mature? (he's 41) He's not a player and I don't doubt his sincerity anymore. He didn't beat around the bush AT ALL concerning his feelings and intentions towards me. He knew what kind of woman he wants in his life, I guess. I was more nervous b/c he was so direct and I'd been playing the "hide and go seek" game with a cap man for years. My scorp reminds me of the Leos I've dated -- very direct, funny, sexy and yes, stubborn as hell.

"A scorpio's life is a never ending journey...b/c we seem to hit new obstacles and are forced to step forward or step back..."

Shucks, isn't this everybody's life and approach to it? :-)

is it easy for scorps to fall in love again quickly after ending a relationship?Fire signs are more impulsive so they fall more easily in love..is it the opposite with water signs?

Over and over, DB, you're comments are so truthful! You really help me understand the Scorpio male (generally, that is). I mean, I know you're all different, but you're very calming and logical about it. Thanks big man!

"That's pretty accurate. Our outward demeanor doesn't always match the excitement of what's happening in our heads in a new relationship."

Damn it.. LOL!...you guys are so goood at that! You guys seem to be quite disciplined and in control of your emotions. Tell me, does that bite you in the booty at times though? I mean, giving the wrong impression may make some think that you're indifferent.

(please feel free to go ahead and tell me that I overthink EVERYTHING!) *winks*

"Cancer, my demeanor said aloof, be he swore my EYES gave me away."

I'm a cancer as well, and the eyes do tell many stories, that's true. I thought I was so good at being able to read people quite well in terms of their feelings. But, my Scorpio just keeps blowing that out the water! LOL! He comes so far out of left field at times, it makes me think I'M crazy! (in a good way)

"We have finally gotten past that nonsense and have embarked on an incredible courtship."

Good for you Beguling. That is always so lovely to hear.... I often think that we are passed the nonsense. And it's a welcomed breath of fresh air. Then...at all the wrong times, I think that it is, infact, ME that stirs the pot again. What the heck is wrong with me? OR maybe it is just that my moods tend to mirror what I interpret his to be. Doesn't that sound ridiculous.

"Booty-bitin...oh MY!"

LMAO

"P.S. Some of my most valued friends wind up being Cancerians. Good luck with your Scorpion King!"

Aww..Beg, what a nice thing for you to say! Thank you (I'll need it) and good luck to you, too!

Ok, DB...ready?

"Well, there is a lot of power in that ...We shield emotions naturally...and we do it for so many reasons..."

Ok, keyword..."power". LOL I just love you Scorps.

"The funny thing is that we may appear colder to people we find interest in...lol"

*skreeeeeeeech...moonbaby slams on the breaks and wipes her eyes to see if she believes what she reads*

This is the kind of stuff that blows me out of the water! LOL! It's SOOO confusing. But, hey *hangs head and shakes it slowly* I'm a sucker and I just adore it.

I bet that makes no sense to you...and I guess I do it, so they don't know how I feel. And then why? I guess b/c our insecturities of being rejected...so we wait and watch...eventually, we know the person likes us b/c they chase us...then we can chose to express ourselves knowing that the waters are safe

"HAHAHA! Well at least you won't be bored...but if you start thinking like a scorp, you'll figure him out soon enough..."

I don't think that boring is in a Scorps. vocabulary. Keeps me on my toes! With regards to thinking like a Scorp, I have honestly never thought that way before (obviously). Well said, DB and I WILL take that advise. Absolutely. I'm on a new mission. *winks*

You're the best!

DB:
"I seem to have a very stern look on my face...my gemini always thinks I'm thinking of something important, lol...she's ask me what's wrong.."

Uhhh, countless times I have asked my guy that. (4 yrs later and we're still learning everyday)

Beguiling:
"Nope. Everywhere that I have worked, my staff have always said that I came in MAD in the mornings. I rarely was, I was just focused and organizing my day. My friends, family, and colleagues say that I set the tone of a room when I walk in."

It's a look of concentration, determination and looks like you guys are trying to figure out life's biggest mysteries. When all you're trying to do is figure out what's on the schedule today! LOL!!!! PRICELESS!

If i began to think like a scorp i'd end up in a looney bin...Me hold all that in?...i got a headache from just thinking about it! lol

"If i began to think like a scorp i'd end up in a looney bin...Me hold all that in?...i got a headache from just thinking about it! lol"

LMAO BIGTIME!!!!! That was so, so funny, JuiCy*!! It's exhausting trying to pick those brains!

TELL ME ABOUT IT MOON BABY..LMAO TO MUCH TO HANDLE!!

LMAO DB I KNOW I'M NUTZ BUT YOUR JUST PURE INSANE LOL THERES NO WAY I CAN EVAN BEGIN TO START THINKING LIKE YOU ..MY POOR HEAD =/ LOL

i find it interested how you do look at things and come up with differen't ways of looking at them, but i'll just stick to listening lol

I was just curious about some things i read about scorpio men...
1. Is it true that scorpio men are mostly attracted to the "femme fatale"- type of women? (i have read they do ...and they do like women who are mysterious and hard to get)
2. Do scorps get easily scared if there is competition?
3. When they have just ended a relationship and they have started a new thing with another woman is that most likely to end quickly if the woman asks them directly what the deal is between them? (i mean that has to scare them off, right?)

Know is that MC Hammer, acting a nut with that damn dancing, I look at it know and wonder why did we as humans agreee to dance like that in a club. LOL

LMAO ROFL....I tell you sometimes yall make me feel so old. I keep forgetting some of you were not in my growing up years. ha ha ha ha

Well yea, LOL I still do the running man on occassion when I am out with a group and we are on the dance floor really cutting up...but the other dance when he has his elbows out and he is shaking his hips I can't do that. lol...

We called his pants (ballon pants), I never had a pair of those, I think they were for men.

i must have done something wrong..and feel kinda sad this does not go so well! i iniated this whole conversation again (about what is going on between us and whether it is just sex) and i got the same reply from him. so i said we should then just drop the subject. he said he definetely wanted to have this conversation another time though. I mentioned nothing after that cause i thought he just wants to avoid the conversation in order not to disappoint me. anyway we met a week or so after that and he brought up the subject which i did not expect. he said the same things all over again..that he is not willing to think about it very much ...what is meant to happen will happen..he also thought that i think too much and that i shouldn't do that....I figured from that answer that he is not in the place where i am right now....and thought that it was a crappy and coward answer ....so i told him that he should not pressure himself and that it's ok to leave it like that. he kinda seemed disappointed to me..or at least not expecting me to answer like that...as if nothing is wrong.. Totally strange. the rest of the night everything was just fine. But he hasn't contacted me at all for 2 days..not even tried to..which is strange...he has never done that before...we might not have met every day...but he would send a msg or so every other day. What the fuck did I do wrong?

i mean he obviously was not that into me...wanted to have a more free relationship..i told him that its fine (because why would i want to pressure sb who doesn't want to be pressured) and he keeps his distance now more than ever! And the most weird thing is that the last time we went out he was very sweet and protective! My instict tells he ended the whole thing without telling me...he just communicates it to me by keeping this distance and not contacting me at all!

"so i told him that he should not pressure himself and that it's ok to leave it like that. he kinda seemed disappointed to me"

You gave him a way out and he took it.

😢 so he just wanted out..? but did not have the guts to tell me?

i thought he would be happy to hear that i won't pressure him about this anymore and that i would have no problem to just leave matters as unclear as they are now. ANd so he would feel more comfortable around me....

"She then becomes easy for the male to control, and control is exactly what is needed "


lmaoooo sounds familiar =)~

anyway i did not want to give him a way out...in the sense of not having any kind of a relationship...just wanted to make things easier...How the hell did he interpret it so as to mean that i wanted to end it? I think his ego got hurt because he didn;t expect me to agree with him..so he is just ending the whole thing as a revenge... 😉

Well, it disappointed him...I wonder why?

DB so you are saying that he was not really disappointed ..but i misread him and thought he was?

Why would anybody be disappointed when the other person just agrees to everything he says? I just kept saying ok to everything he said..thereby making it clear that it's ok for him to be unclear...and possibly suggesting that i don't care that much anymore about having a serious relationship with him...(ups...that's bad...i just realised he might have misunderstood me....)

Message posted by: Dancing Bread on 5/23/2006 3:51:45 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.91

PF: "He is a bit "touchy" though, meaning over-sensitive...at least in my opinion."

PF: "He didn't beat around the bush AT ALL concerning his feelings and intentions towards me."

DB: Well, isn't this off a bit? He is over-sensitive, yet, he says his feelings and intentions...never beats around the bush...hmmm



"Touchy or Over-sensitive" meaning that, in my opinion, he gets offended by comments that I feel he should just let roll off. I think he takes some things too personally. But perhaps he just has deep/fervent convictions about certain things.

DB: "Well, if he bypassed all those scorpio games, good for you ...but he does sound mature... "

Nope, he didn't/doesn't beat around the bush when he expresses his love and commitment to ME. Whether he beats around the bush with other people or AT ALL, I don't know. His directness as well as his actions towards me give me assurance he's not fooling around. This is very refreshing.

...(ups...that's bad...i just realised he might have misunderstood me....)"

I see...


Ok that is not very fair though...i mean he shows me he doesn't expect much out of this "relationship" ..then how does he expect a different attitude from me? That cannot be it then..i mean that cannot be the reason he was disappointed..cause it is egoistic...to want sb to have more feelings for you than you do for her/him.

aren't scropios a little overly with the ego.

relationships should not be about satisfying each others egos...they should be about being honest to each other and instead of hiding trying to understand each other even when risking being hurt....it is only when sb experiences great disappointment and sadness that one really appreciate happiness

the greatest achievements come to those who dare DB! Insecurities and fears are the problems of nowadays society and relationships...everybody has become so egoistic that they loose the real meaning in life relationships and love!

true undergrad but what DB said is how we are. You have to find a way to get around what we do.

I know a few guys that love me to this day and I have not showed them anything about my feelings. I don't feel safe for real not to mention scared so we become ome aloof until we see changes action in the other person. I hope I said that right

i do understand that scorpios (especially the scorp-women) are oversensitive (i mean that i a good way) and feel the need to protect themselves...but not leting anybody come extremely close to your heart is not the way for me..... you may risk a lot ...but the it may also be very rewarding...scorps are supposed to be good at reading people so i cannot understand why they are so reserved towards people...not everybody is that bad...Anyway i am a leo so i naturally have a tendency to let people in more easily than scorps i guess....i like to be honest and most of the time i get the same honesty back...sooner or later!

ok DB i admit that this is the other side of the coin.....Problems arise when we let those insecurities and fears govern our lives to such an extent that they become a hurdle to any sort of experiences...because how can sb live his life to the fullest when he is afraid that he/she will be burnt by the fire? 😉 I am not judging anybody...because i do the same thing to an extent...but everybody on those boards does the same thing (that includes me as well).....Instead of finding a way with their partners they are trying to find the answers here...If that isn't lack of communication between me and the one i care about..and fear of being rejected and laughed at ..then what is?

undergard we do and can read people, and people that do not sit well with us we become reserve/distant towards them until we can figure them out better...at least that is how I am.

I do it all the time I take one look at a person and can make a decision on whether I will continue a friendship with them of just leave them alone.

Instincts is a bitch at times

"lol...You're a firecracker I like it!" DB are you calling me a firecracker?

"Insecurites and fears are what MAKES us human...it makes us learn and experience the meaning of life and love..."

Dammit DB don't keep telling me that

...I am trying need to see a little more that's all. LOL

I hope this last post did not sound bad...i did not mean it in a bad way...I am just disappointed that we have to make things so difficult when i know what everybody seeks deep down is love ... and security!

AMEN undergrad...getting it is the CHALLENGE.

Scorpionlady i hope you can be always right in your judgments about people...but are you seriously telling me that in your whole life there has not been anybody that was really worth it..for you to completely open up to him...If that is true that is sad and very unlucky....YOu should not expect people to be right to you every fucking minute...day..month.. everyone of us has his/her own problems..and may react awkward sometimes..even in a way that you think shows what he really is...That is not true though..he reacts that way in a particular situation...because he is human...If you make the snap judgment that this person is bad because of this and don't let him show you who he really is ..that is just another person who passed in your life ... Show a little more trust in people..maybe give them a second chance to prove to you what they are really worth and you will see that sometimes this actually works wonders.... This might restore your faith in people..

i guess all this sounds stupid and naive....anyway..

i think scorp-women tend to do that in general... the sad thing is they very often misjudge people ... even from a single act... They are too critical of people as well... Are the scorp-guys the same in that sense....?

if they are i am definetely gonna have a problem with my scorp guy....i am so impulsive sometimes that i do things without having a particular bad purpose...i know my scorp friends (the women) will judge it immediately and be very critical of it as if it shows what i really am as a person...........which is so wrong .....

undergrad- "Scorpionlady i hope you can be always right in your judgments about people...but are you seriously telling me that in your whole life there has not been anybody that was really worth it..for you to completely open up to him...If that is true that is sad and very unlucky."

I am not going to take what you said to heart or personal, you don't know me nor do you know what or where I have been, I give the men in my life ample time to show who they are. When I met someone I am up front and straight to the point about who and what I am, what I will accept and not accept, I let them know that I do not play games, I don't like lieing and lack of communication, the only thing I have is my dignity, pride,honesty,faith, self respect and my word and trust my word is bond. I have stood by many men and given them time and respect to be real and honesty with me.

To me the first year of any relationship/friendship is a lie to me that is the time that you are really getting to know a person by the second year they can't continue to hold on to the lie so you start to see the real person. Know if I make it through the second year then I can see me being with them for a while.

I don't chase beg or plea for any man. I am not comprimising but I will compromise if it is mutual. I don't believe in giving more than the other person in a relationship it should be mutual. I have a choice to deal with men I have principles just like every one else mines may be a little different than others but this is what I live by. And trust me when I say I am friends with most of all the men that I used to deal with they respect me to the highest levels, they love me and a lot of them has told me that the biggest mistake they made was losing me. So don't tell me that what I am doing is a shame sad or whatever. This is me who I am how I live, I am single and right know I enjoy my single life some days are not as good as others but it is how I choose to live my life right know. I have taken a lot of crap from men and given then chances and chances but why should I stay with someone that does not deserve what I have to offer that sounds like a person who is pressed for a man and that I am not.

I have a lot of faith and I believe that I will get that man who understnds me fully and respects my principles. I HAVER LEARN TO STAND FOR SOMTHING OR FALL FOR ANYTHING. and I am not falling for ANYTHING. I hope this answers you questions.

DB
"Personally, I think scorpiolady is too protective and cautious...when I mention how insecurities are a good thing, I mean the acomplishment of tackling them, the passion to fear but move ahead anywaz..."

Yes I am, and I am slowly but surely trying not to be so protective and cautious of my feelings and emotions LOL

I have been hurt and just like any human who have been hurt numerous times because you continue to give and give you soon wake up and stop giving. This is me, and I am happy with me.

of course I do DB but I am not settling for just anything I did that. You had to have been in my shoes to know or understand what I mean.

I am happy with me I love me and before anyone can love me I must love myself and be happy with me. I don't know what is in the future for me where a man is concerned but I am not going out there looking he will come and when that man does I will know that he is the one. That is what I live by know so why not be happy with me my life and see what's the next plan for me where a man is concerne and if I have to make changes in my princples and morals I am willing to try and do that.

I hope you understand. I am a complicated women and no will understand but my man

Oh and I don't want to endure anymore pains of experience I had enough, I am full of insecurity and fear which is a big weakness to me I must overcome those things before I can move onto the next phase of my life I believe.

If you notice I have capricorn running through my chart which could account for somethings about me.

No I don't look at as that. I have learn to take construtive critizum is what I see and I have no problem taking a look at myself from other peoples veiw it helps me to better myself.

oh and let me clarify something when I say I don't want to endure pains of experience I mean I don't want to put my self in situations that will allow me to be hurt I know it is a long shot but hey I have been doing pretty good so far I am not say I won't every get hurt again because I will but I can avoid it happing so much like it used to .

LOL emeraldgem that is ok you don't have to agree with me....LOL I have reseached this fact and by experience.

thank you emeraldgem maybe I should have said it that way but you understood
...somebody understands me a little. LOL

HOW DO I LOVE THE LET ME COUNT THE WAYS...lol

I always thought no one believed that concept and I would say it to guys I date and they would just look stupid and not say anything.

Then the first year go by and then the second year and BAM you see what you need to see. I experince that with the Cappy 1 year and 1/2 and it was over and that was just a friendship.

That is why I try and build a friendship frist and foremost kinda make the guy comfortable no pressure on them, unconditional bond of friendship and then move on when the guy is ready not me I have learned never to pressure a guy into anything they don't want to do and it you do they will do it to make you happy or keep your mouth shut, but they are really not happy doing it and that I believe is one reason why men get out on women.

DB I look at my painful expriences as a learning experience, I have taken from them all and this is the end result, I will love I want to love but I am no rush no pressure, and when it comes I will know.

I have no time for being in a relations for 3 years and it end and I have to start over starting over it takes to much time and I am tired of playing the game. So when that man come hopefully he is finish playing and is ready to settle down then I will be their and WE WILL LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER..ha ha ha ha.

I have been in 2 serious relationship one with my sons father I was 19 when it started it lasted 6 years we broke up for six and got back to gether for 8 months and I was done with him the next one was 4 years he got married and called and told me he should have married me he made a mistake.

What Have I learned? ummmmm

Pretty Women is my favorite love story..LOL