i told scorp my p was late and he said....... (Page 4)

I understand what people said. I have said over 10 times in this thread that I feel my choice was reckless. I never said if I get a std the "oh well". I said if I got an std do to my bad choice then I would have to deal with it. The only thing I was defending was the fact that this guy was not sum random guy. Some others had put in their head that this was some guy I had just met. So I was making it clear that it was not the case. No that does not make it better and again my choice was reckless but I already did it. My op didn't set the tone.. The second post I had to respond 2 and it bothered me. So that's y I responded the way I did.

Yes my choice was reckless should have used a condom.

"*Ahem*

Children, this is what we call an understatement."

And this is what we call a person that misses the drama and can't let go...you a Cancer?

I don't think it was over the top .. in this day and age, when the consequences of unprotected sex has reached such devastating levels, and we find a person who does this casually, with absolutely no thought or remorse until AFTER it has been pointed out to the person, for any thoughts to be present about how they fucked up ....... then there can't be too much, what has been said so far isn't even enough.

It has been expressed by karma, several times, as her last post said .. that she admits she was reckless. But, the awareness must be present in all people reading this, if they are to fully comprehend exactly WHY we, as people, are falling at dramatic and alarming levels when it comes to std's ........ and it is because ...


.. no remorse, no conscience, no foresight whatsoever was expressed by karma about this deed until AFTER it was pointed out to her.

And that's not acceptable with our current situation regarding std's. To say, "I'm sorry" after-the-fact holds no value when we all know it's the responsibility of EVERY sexaully active adult to be conscientous of this BEFORE the act is commited.

Furthermore .. if karma has no awareness of the recklessness of this until AFTER her back is put against the wall to show any signs of guilt .. then we cannot overlook the fact that she is the teacher, the example for children, whom will look to her for guidance, including sexual health.

"It was just sex. its not like we were in a relationship. nope condoms were not used shame on me".



I made that statemnet in the very next response. After the oringinal op..


I am not worried about p_angel at all. I hope she has a wonderful day I hope her day is filled with lots of love I hoep she does something proactive with her day..
hey maybe pulling peoples mistakes up from 3 months ago makes her feel like she is doing something then so be it.

when it comes to my kids you know nothing about me. so now u are perfect mommy. I am sure perfect p_angle has been the perfect wife and mommy and has never made a bad choice. well thats wonderful! I am proud of you.


I am sure every1 on here has unprotected sex. it does not matter if you have kids or not if its wrong and you are preaching that it is wrong then it has to be wrong across the board.. there is no "especially because you have kids". nope wrong is wrong there people go again trying make their bad choice smaller the another. reckless is reckless . sin is sin. there is no great sin.


so go find more threads and copy and paste.

"Furthermore .. if karma has no awareness of the recklessness of this until AFTER her back is put against the wall to show any signs of guilt .. then we cannot overlook the fact that she is the teacher, the example for children, whom will look to her for guidance, including sexual health".


I never said I was not aware of it being reckless. b4hand. I made a choice. does not mean that I didnt care. however it was an choice I made. Who are you p_angel or any1 else on this board you are not God. Why would u feel the need to put my back against the wall to make me cry out guilt. Who do you think you are?


what do you do when your back is against the wall. be very careful ..

In fact, if there are still people out there who make the claim that everybody has unprotected sex, so I'm no different, shame on me .. in defiance, rather than being truly conscientious to the disturbing reality mankind is faced with std's ..

.. then so far, sexual education and the awareness being sent out to people, has NOT been enough.

This is evidence that we will "do" it without accountibility, and only express vindication, rather than "real" concern for mankind.

I can see why you are trying to find answers to why your virgo aacts the way he does.. Maybe its because he doesnt trust you. He may feel that anythhing that he expose to u in his intimate moment of truth will come back to hunt him. maybe he has figured out that he cant share things with you. he knows any mistake he makes mrs p_angel will be there to back him up against the wall and make him cry out guilt instead of being his wife. wrong is wrong. but you to have to throw wrong in sum1 face to try and hurt them.. I really hope u dont use the tatic with your spouse. always using his weakness as a weapon to hurt him. Have mercy on you that is evil.. you have to beaware of grace and mercy.


but I am sure that the angel you are u would never use that tatic with your spouse. u are way better then that.. smooches!!!

and u just helped mankind out by making yourself feel like u put my back against the wall .. u did mankind a deed today!!!


well mankind thanks p_angel she with the help of others made M!ss karma cry out guilt. u should give your self an hi_5

lol, you're not aware enough to my back against the wall, karma.

A person would have to rise above being ignorant to do that .. for I'm already miles ahead of you.

You're still thinking about being vindicated, so to prevent any guilt from surfacing = not even aware of yourself, and your own actions .. so, there's no way you could ever be aware of someone elses.

every choice that is made is an internal battle. Although you may think that was the dumbest decision any1 can make. and yes the decision may be dumb. but every1 makes decision based on what is inside of them. you dont there internal story you dont know their background. then we 4get about some of the reckless decisions we have made. oh how we quickley 4get who we are and where we come from. we didnt just wake up with expectations and standards. we had to go thru some things we had to make some bad and choices to realize what we stand for.


for what ever reasons people make bad choices its not up to us to make them cry out guilt!

"lol, you're not aware enough to my back against the wall, karma.

A person would have to rise above being ignorant to do that .. for I'm already miles ahead of you.

You're still thinking about being vindicated, so to prevent any guilt from surfacing = not even aware of yourself, and your own actions .. so, there's no way you could ever be aware of someone elses"


I am not trying to put you back up against the wall its not my place.


I have already admitted I am guilty has charged. so what now?

it's ur job to put my back against the wall? well go ahead.


you are so far a head of me your right . not sure if your age is correct but your about 25yrs ahead of me you are filled with experince and knowledge. you have made some good choices and some bad choices along the way.. so you should know about a little grace and mercy. for when you made ur bad choices I am sure you would have wanted sum1 2 show u a lil compassion.

but through your efforts to back me against the wall you just made me better for you have taught me a lesson about grace and mercy. forgiviness. I am sorry that whatever life struggles have bought u thier was no one thier to show u a lil mercy,

"You're still thinking about being vindicated"

nope whats my sentenc angel.I am guilty


I will not let u sentence me to death. I will not cry out any longer.

Its done.

Ill wipe myself off and keep it moving

No SSP, she is not a cancer. Neither am I and I feel the same way.

You were definitely judge and jury. Some of your comments I agreed with but others were just troubling. I was like "OMG".

cappy hun. I think some of my comments were out of anger. and hurt. I didnt realize that this world is full of people who pretty much wait to judge others. its an high for them. I wish I would have set back and really read thru the responses instead of skimming. some of my responses were just thrown out as a quick response....



this post had bothered my spirit.

Okay, in conclusion (hahaha, I'm in student mode) from what I read. Its apparant that things were said so Miss Karma got responds -- maybe all of them were not what she wanted to read but hurtful comments aren't always terrible, sometime you have to take a look at yourself and see what it is that needs to be fixed. No one is perfect and everyone needs evolution. You can run from it, but change will come even if you do not want it to happen. In my opinion, its more important to be prepared for change then to run from it.

My opinion is about not necessary at this point because so many others have said bits and pieces of what I would've said in one post.

Do I see problems here? Yes I do ... Can they be fixed? Yes they can if Miss Karma wants to fix them. No one can do it but her. 🙂

"No SSP, she is not a cancer. Neither am I and I feel the same way.

You were definitely judge and jury. Some of your comments I agreed with but others were just troubling. I was like "OMG"."

You both suffer from the same need to keep fueling the issue though don't you?

Fwiw: Learn how to interpret tongue in cheek statements, of course it was way the fuck over the top, mediocrity is boring as is having to explain understatement humor.

this post had bothered my spirit.

Okay, well -- well the fact that it bothered you shows that you are sensitive like everyone else here 🙂 I could tell it bothered you but you didn't like what you were reading.

Honestly, many of the comments -- both positive and negative -- were good to read for obvious reasons. However, the ones that were 'over-the-top' kind of took away from the key messages that were sent in both the positive and negative statements.

You both suffer from the same need to keep fueling the issue though don't you?

hahaha, alright I will be quiet about it. I just had to get that off my chest -- I'm a Saggie/Cappy cusp. Its in my nature to let those know exactly whats on my mind 😉

yep the truth hurts. I agree. but the ghetto, welfare . stupid idiot all those comments were ugly. and only meant to damage not help.


I ask myself. why would sum1 go back to a post that was made 2 months agao only to throw it in my face. that didnt help. you cant use my weakness as a weapon against me. thats awful


I am my worst critic. trust me when i tell you this. just do what p_angel did and go thru my previous threads. I have a thread about my internal issues .. I admitt my imperfections.. but at the end of the day who is any to try and throw my back up against the wall and make me cry out quilt?

Your conscience, karma .. and if it won't do it .. I will.

Like it or not ...

its not fuel. I am okay I have went over and over again in my head.




ssp. u said ur peace and I am done with you. I didnt make the comment about understatements sum1 else did..

Well Miss Karma ...

I know what you mean, its been done here before, but thats what happens. Not just online, even offline -- I'm sure that happen to you before offline too.

Goodness, I can't keep my big month shut so I always have to defend myself ... it gets tiring I must say.

"ssp. u said ur peace and I am done with you. I didnt make the comment about understatements sum1 else did.."

This is just flat out irritating....I haven't been talking to you for cryin' out loud.

angel do what u do . now i am done with you! go help some1 else along the way hun. you have done your job!!!

are looking 4 a cookie now, 4 a job well done?

ok! I dont understand why are people still reading the thread if they are irritated by it.

sure its happens. but i thought it was just like a family thing. u know the lil family spit spats. I dodnt realize like the world is like that.

You know Miss Karma ... sometimes your worse critics ... can be your best allies.

I just wanted to leave you with that 🙂 We are around the same age -- you are just two years older then me 😄

Someone who was an antagonist to me, became someone that I thank right now 🙂

sure its happens. but i thought it was just like a family thing. u know the lil family spit spats. I dodnt realize like the world is like that.

Really? Oh no, its not just relatives.

I have been somewhat shelterd in my life. going from my parents house right into a marriage with a very controlling libra. so i really didnt realize . may seem a bit childish for my age. but it is what it is

but yep. homie.. hehehe.. gotta get some of my bio work done!

but yep. homie.. hehehe.. gotta get some of my bio work done!

Yes, its not too late 😄 Don't worried I was sheltered too growing up but things occurred and then I had to learn alot of stuff before the age of 18 -- 16 really.

I was a late bloomer 😛

hi miss karma - came back to the boards after a real long time and read ur post. And also the horrible way everybodys getting on ur back. since its kinda ended im not going to re start the argument, but i just want to tell you that your one tough brave lil lady - good luck to you and your kids.

Dont let anybody pull you down here, frankly evrybody makes mistakes and NOBODY has the right to tear you apart just coz you've posted here.

"You guys sure do know how to beat a fucking dead horse don't you—"

Buwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

::: ducks from flames :::


I take it you are a tad upset, Arian.

Here's the thing from my own personal perspective ... you said on page 15, first sentence of paragraph 3 ....

"if you really cared, you'd not attack her character and say things with a completely different tone. there are several ways to get your point across and not only feel like u were 'right' but that you helped someone at the end of the day."


And it has been fully comprehended by me that you are talking about "care" being for her, and that any help that might be available in here would be for her ....

But, I stand on a completely different platform .. my care is for all, not the one. My words reference really caring, for the multitude of people that are essentially effected by the one.

For you to really care about the one, and her feelings specifically, is perfectly acceptable ... and my concerns about really caring for mankind, is also perfectly acceptable.

I do really care .. just not about the one, rather, all.

I agree with many view points on this, but for some reason the pisces are making the most sense out of everyone here 🙂 P-Angel and Ms.Pisces, you two make since, yes you do.

My problem is that I see things pretty balanced for the most part -- on one end I'm like, "No way" but on the other end, I say, "Well, mistakes happen." Its clear that most of the stuff I would've said had alraedy been said and repeated but I thought I give my opinion because I find interest in this topic.

I'm a junior in college, so nutty things are always around me, plus I work for a health dept, so can you imagine the things I hear? lol, I've heard stories like Miss Karmas before and I'm glad that she was brave enough to post about her experience.

Think about, if she had not, she would probably have a totally different prospective then she does about things now. Its heard to hear (well, in her case read) things that aren't flattering. Like Starfish said, she would never post anything like that on this board becuase she wouldn't want what happen to Miss Karma to happen to her, and thats fine because she people cannot handle different points of view about their personal lives 🙂

I applaud her for doing this, and in a way, I think she knows she did the right thing too. Sometimes the people around that are the close to you, don't always give the best advice because they consider the situation and your feelings. When you are dealing with people who cannot visibly see you or who is a stranger, it makes the opinions some what different, you see.

The fact that she exposed herself like this is part of something really good, and thats is unsderstanding the situation better. Regardless to what, if he got slammed, she got slammed, so what? Thats what happens when you get many different opinions. Some care more and some don't. Whats important here is that she finds a conclusion to the mistakes that she has made prior to the mistake she made most recently -- which was what the original post was about.

"Since you all are so damn worried about STD's. STOP HAVING SEX UNPROTECTED with your husband and boyfriends right now! RIGHT NOW! because had she came and said this man were her husband, none of this STD shit would've come up in the first place! And if I am not mistaken, you can still catch an STD from your husband correct? I believe someone in here said it themselves that they got one from there husband".



and this is on of my points i have been trying to make.




"LQQK! Everyone SHUT THE FUQ UP! I am getting so pissed over here at the redundancy of people getting pissed off because she said something about being pregnant rather than coming and crawling and crying that she put herself at risk for an STD"!


thats another point I was trying to make. all the other stuff had nothing to do with my thread.


yep i still made a reckless decision. but some people took it to another level.



dont get pissed Arianlatay its all good.



ms.pisces.
And that's not acceptable with our current situation regarding std's. To say, "I'm sorry" after-the-fact holds no value when we all know it's the responsibility of EVERY sexaully active adult to be conscientous of this BEFORE the act is commited."


I never apologized about anything I pleaded quilty. but I will not apologize to you or any1 else on this board. i didnt sleep with you or your man with out using a condom. so I dont think i have to say i am sorry..

how ever you and p_angel should hi_5 each other and go get one of those red ribbons pin it on your shirt to a commerrcial with sean combs and let the world know you have raised awarness for std's...


you have done your job..


and I suppose u use condoms ALL the time... well thats great!

Why are you so angry Arian? I don't get it? Miss Karma is fine now, the thread was good for her, she really needed to do that and I'm glad she did 🙂

cappysweetie ... ummmmm. I have wipped my hands of this. My post had nothing to do with std's.....

Who talking about stds? Are you talking about stds? Thats a whole other topic entirely 😄

Yeah, that topic will require a huge thread 🙂

No need to talk about stds, I just had lunch so ... no people, we shouldn't talk about that stuff 😛

ok elena.. hehehehe sure was not looking for a hug.. so do u use condoms Everytime you have sex?

lol, thanks Elena 😄 😄 😄

These smilies have big round heads like me 🙂 Plus I really do blow bubbles in the tube so its soooo meeeeee!!!! 😄

the laugh was scarcastic!

ok elena.. hehehehe sure was not looking for a hug.. so do u use condoms Everytime you have sex?

I never gone without one -- my last boyfriend wanted to and it scared me to death ... so, thats not the whole reason we are not together, but no condom use would've definitely broke us apart 🙂

well thats great cappy keep it up!

no offense the question was not 4 u.. it was posted for elena90.

Now, if the both of us were willing to get tested that would be a different staory all together. However, he was an idoit and I was crazy for being his gf 🙂

Being single is cool, but I may need to start looking again -- I like guys 🙂

no offense the question was not 4 u.. it was posted for elena90.

ooops

guess what i am still good! I am not afraid to expose myself I realize I am only human.


this is why people have issues like drugs. gambling.. instead of being able to talk to sum1 they turn to drugs. because they dont have to worry about drugs judging them. they gamble because thats makes them feel good. because whatever they are going thru they cant tlk about it because of judgemental people.