Opening up

Scorpios, do you feel its easier or harder to open up about difficult things to a close friend as opposed to a psychologist?

A psychologist is paid to listen and give advice, meaning that their agenda is much different from a friend's, for good and bad. If a friend judges you after you shared something, it may have consequences in a whole other way. However, a friend may know you better and you may be more willing to share of yourself to a friend?

Thoughts?

What's your Moon sign and do you have contacts between your Moon and Pluto?

Posted by starlord

It's the same. You still chose what and how much to disclose, how you want to tell yourself. For a psychologist you have to also believe in them and that they can actually make a difference, and I think that's what's hard.

Good point! Thank you!🙂

*Edit: May I ask your Moon sign and if you have any aspects between your Moon and Pluto?

Posted by ellesbelles

We dont have that piece in our brain that makes us concerned about people judging us like caps do.....unless maybe we have some personal cap placements.

With that said....I'd prefer a friend because I would be afraid that I would take up a challenge of manipulating the psychologist so I could discredit them and not take them seriously. I probably wouldn't start off that way but if the psychologist showed any signs of being incompetent...I would have the need to toy with them.

Scorp Sun

Aries Moon

No moon pluto aspects.

You know what, I was actually about to protest against me, as a cap, being concerned about being judged, because I'm usually not. BUT, I actually am, sometimes. In some situations, I think can be a good thing (the costs may be too great), though, but sometimes, it's definitely bad. For me, being judged by a friend would hurt more than being judged by a psychologist. Sure, you can dump the friend, but it's still hurtful.

The challenge of manipulating the psychologist, if they showed incompetence, I totally get. Think I would have a problem with that too. lol

Posted by LaMadrina

I find it easier to keep my problems between God and myself and work them out on my own.

I don't like strangers. I don't like telling my business to strangers. Why would I pay for that? Textbook advice can never beat walking in someone else's shoes and actually knowing what to do.

I don't like telling my business to anyone, friend or foe, but don't you think an outside perspective could have sooome advantages? They do have education and training to spot issues and to present possible solutions and tools to use in order to solve them.

May I ask your Moon sign and if you have any aspects from your Moon to Pluto?

Posted by LaMadrina

50% of people don't really care about your problems. The other 50% are glad you have them. Psychiatrist would be glad you have them. It adds to their 💰 💰 💰

Thinking only 50% of people don't really care about a person's problems is very optimistic of you, methinks.😉

Posted by Unwording

Neither. lol

But if I felt completely overwhelmed and had to choose, I'd go with the psychologist since I have a tendency to "quarantine" myself from the people I love when I'm feeling stressed anyway.

Scorp Sun

Scorp Moon

Moon conjunct Pluto

I'm not a scorpio Sun, I'm not a scorpio Moon and my Moon is not conj Pluto, but the rest of that I could sign. Thank you.🙂

Posted by TwinnFlamee1989

I’m more comfortable sharing with strangers because none of my friends know me well enough to give advice. With strangers (some not all) I can recieve insightful, unbiased input. I don’t find psychology helpful at all. I’ve gone but they’re more like vent sessions for me, I let it all out and leave

Thank you!🙂

May I ask, would it be possible that if you shared things with your friends, they got to know you well enough and thereby would be able to eventually give you advice? However, that's easier said than done, I know I'm struggling with it myself.

So, for that reason, I'd like to ask you if you would be interested in sharing more with your friends some time in the future and how, in that case, you would go about it. I have started sneaking in small amounts of info to my friends, but it's slooow work, so I'd love to hear your thoughts on the subject.

*Edit: May I ask if your Moon is in contact with Pluto?

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Neither. lol

But if I felt completely overwhelmed and had to choose, I'd go with the psychologist since I have a tendency to "quarantine" myself from the people I love when I'm feeling stressed anyway.

Scorp Sun

Scorp Moon

Moon conjunct Pluto

I'm not a scorpio Sun, I'm not a scorpio Moon and my Moon is not conj Pluto, but the rest of that I could sign. Thank you.🙂

You're welcome. 🙂

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Wait, why didn't I ask you the same question I asked TwinnFlamee1989? Well, better late than never, so here it goes:

Would you be interested in being able to share more with your friends and how, in that case, would you go about it. I have started sneaking in small amounts of info to my friends, but it's difficult and slooow work, so I'd love to hear your thoughts on the subject.

Posted by Impulsv

Psychologist. If I’m going to pay to get better I’m going to be as real responsible to the bottom of it

Thank you!🙂

May I ask your Moon sign and if it has a connection to Pluto?

Posted by Impulsv

Oh I prefer dxpnet lol

That is ofc number one - didn't thing it needed mentioning, even.😉

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50% of people don't really care about your problems. The other 50% are glad you have them. Psychiatrist would be glad you have them. It adds to their 💰 💰 💰

Thinking only 50% of people don't really care about a person's problems is very optimistic of you, methinks.😉

Don't be passive aggressive. Save your backhanded smile for someone who cares what you think. I don't. Good day.

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I wasn't being passive aggressive. I was joking. Not very well, apparently, but that's what it was. Sorry you took it that way.

Posted by Evoxxxscorpio3

I don’t trust neither one.

Thank you!🙂

May I ask your Moon sign and if it has a contact to Pluto?

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I find it easier to keep my problems between God and myself and work them out on my own.

I don't like strangers. I don't like telling my business to strangers. Why would I pay for that? Textbook advice can never beat walking in someone else's shoes and actually knowing what to do.

I don't like telling my business to anyone, friend or foe, but don't you think an outside perspective could have sooome advantages? They do have education and training to spot issues and to present possible solutions and tools to use in order to solve them.

May I ask your Moon sign and if you have any aspects from your Moon to Pluto?

Perspective comes when it's needed. I learn without spilling my issues to the world. Everything isn't about me. There are others who can relate and who experience worse things. I feel like that would be complaining.

I address my issue in the form of a hypothetical question and get feedback on it. I don't come to people like woe is me. I'm going through this. Is how I feel about it. You can call me pessimistic or whatever. I'm just me.

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That's actually how I've been handling things myself my whole life until now. Or rather, I've triiied to change my ways since I feel I would be better off...or at least they tell me that I'd be better off. It's difficult. Like you, I really don't like to tell my business to strangers (or, well, anyone, for that matter) for pretty much the same reasons as you. I even went on this site to anonymously train to talk at least a little bit about myself when I felt I could.

Everything isn't about me.

I feel like that would be complaining.

I don't come to people like woe is me. I'm going through this.

I do see a psychologist (I have to for my work) who has pointed at this from me (and omg, this is so me!) and made me look at it from a childhood perspective, where it stemmed from. I could give you loads of examples.

Not participating in a skiing competition with a very bad burn wound to the flesh of my entire right hand palm and without treatment would be "woe is me" according to my mother, so I went through it. I didn't die. Others have it worse. There are other people who have no hands at all, so I'm not entitled to feel bad about my own situation.

I was being sexually abused multiple times when I was a child...but I was never raped, so it doesn't count....and so I have no right to feel my feelings about it.

Things like that. But you can bet that if I hear about someone else being through that, I would definitely empathize and I would definitely get that they would be feeling bad about it. See, the above rules only apply to me.

Don't know how well I explained this, but yeah. And no, that doesn't sound pessimistic to me at all.

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50% of people don't really care about your problems. The other 50% are glad you have them. Psychiatrist would be glad you have them. It adds to their 💰 💰 💰

Thinking only 50% of people don't really care about a person's problems is very optimistic of you, methinks.😉

Don't be passive aggressive. Save your backhanded smile for someone who cares what you think. I don't. Good day.

Be real when you address me. I don't like beating around the bushes.

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I am being real, believe it or not (although my sense of humor may not sit well with everyone) - I don't like to beat around the bush either.

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I don’t trust neither one.

Thank you!🙂

Sag moon

May I ask your Moon sign and if it has a contact to Pluto?

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Thank you!🙂

Do you know if it has a Pluto contact?

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I don’t trust neither one.

Thank you!🙂

Sag moon

May I ask your Moon sign and if it has a contact to Pluto?

Thank you!🙂

Do you know if it has a Pluto contact?

No idea

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Okay. Thank you!🙂 (If you want to find out how to do it, just say the word and I'll tell you.🙂)

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I don’t trust neither one.

Thank you!🙂

Sag moon

May I ask your Moon sign and if it has a contact to Pluto?

Thank you!🙂

Do you know if it has a Pluto contact?

No idea

Okay. Thank you!🙂 (If you want to find out how to do it, just say the word and I'll tell you.🙂)

Go for it. lol

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Okay.🙂 Have you made your chart at astro.com?

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Posted by TwinnFlamee1989

I’m more comfortable sharing with strangers because none of my friends know me well enough to give advice. With strangers (some not all) I can recieve insightful, unbiased input. I don’t find psychology helpful at all. I’ve gone but they’re more like vent sessions for me, I let it all out and leave

Thank you!🙂

May I ask, would it be possible that if you shared things with your friends, they got to know you well enough and thereby would be able to eventually give you advice? However, that's easier said than done, I know I'm struggling with it myself.

So, for that reason, I'd like to ask you if you would be interested in sharing more with your friends some time in the future and how, in that case, you would go about it. I have started sneaking in small amounts of info to my friends, but it's slooow work, so I'd love to hear your thoughts on the subject.

*Edit: May I ask if your Moon is in contact with Pluto?

@HappyCapper

I have tried but I find it frustrating because no matter what I say, I always feel misunderstood by them. It’s not that I am afraid to share or don’t know how to they just don’t seem to care to listen. The “friends” I have tend to clam up when I try to be open or share with them, so I prefer to keep things rather light. I’m always supposed to be happy or an ear for them. People never feel close to me, I may be too “dark”. With strangers they just seem to be very receptive of the things that I am saying. I’d prefer that it be my “friends” but I don’t feel comfortable. Everyone’s situation is different. Continue sharing with your friends and eventually it will become a norm.

I’ve never really had a good psych therapist. The last one just seemed to be keeping track of the time and came off very accusatory, like she already had me pegged. I felt like nothing but a paycheck. I’d reconsider therapy if I could find someone, insightful, unbiased and engaging.

My moon sign is Capricorn and my Pluto sign is Scorpio. I am horrible with astrology so I don’t quite understand what you are asking.

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In my case, I think I'm the problem rather than them, because they (not all of my "friends" but the ones I'm closer to) do want to listen and they are patient with me. I totally understand that you would want to keep things lighter with people who are not even interested in listening to you. So sad.

I agree, finding the right psychologist is key. They say you become a psychologist in order to solve your own issues. Imo, that would be the bad ones and the one you met seems to me to be one of those. Jeez.

When I say "in contact with" I mean, are they aspected? If your Moon is in cap and your Pluto is in scorp, there may (depending on the degree between those planets) be a sextile or an out of sign square there. Sextiles are ideally 60 degrees between the planets and squares are 90 degrees, both with margins (orbs) of some degrees, depending on your philosophy on orbs. Have you made your chart at astro.com?

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Psychologist. If I’m going to pay to get better I’m going to be as real responsible to the bottom of it

Thank you!🙂

May I ask your Moon sign and if it has a connection to Pluto?

Taurus moon

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Thank you!🙂 And your Pluto is in libra, so there may be an opposition there. Do you know the degree of your Moon?

Posted by ScorpioTruth

@HappyCapper to be molested (whether raped or not) would result in emotional trauma. It annoys me that someone has conditioned you to believe that just because you weren’t raped, your feelings of being emotionally traumatized and needing healing are invalid. Research shows that even simply being cheated on results in emotional trauma and PTSD type of symptoms. (I speak from experience) so I can only imagine the emotional trauma that is caused by being molested as a child.

So many times I've been asked if I've been involved in some trauma...and answered no. And I wasn't lying; I just truly didn't think it counted. And I can't say I really get it still. It's like "get over it already," HappyCapper, it's been years.

So, so sorry you have those experiences! That's horrible! Have you been given the opportunity to heal?

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I’m more comfortable sharing with strangers because none of my friends know me well enough to give advice. With strangers (some not all) I can recieve insightful, unbiased input. I don’t find psychology helpful at all. I’ve gone but they’re more like vent sessions for me, I let it all out and leave

Thank you!🙂

May I ask, would it be possible that if you shared things with your friends, they got to know you well enough and thereby would be able to eventually give you advice? However, that's easier said than done, I know I'm struggling with it myself.

So, for that reason, I'd like to ask you if you would be interested in sharing more with your friends some time in the future and how, in that case, you would go about it. I have started sneaking in small amounts of info to my friends, but it's slooow work, so I'd love to hear your thoughts on the subject.

*Edit: May I ask if your Moon is in contact with Pluto?

@HappyCapper

I have tried but I find it frustrating because no matter what I say, I always feel misunderstood by them. It’s not that I am afraid to share or don’t know how to they just don’t seem to care to listen. The “friends” I have tend to clam up when I try to be open or share with them, so I prefer to keep things rather light. I’m always supposed to be happy or an ear for them. People never feel close to me, I may be too “dark”. With strangers they just seem to be very receptive of the things that I am saying. I’d prefer that it be my “friends” but I don’t feel comfortable. Everyone’s situation is different. Continue sharing with your friends and eventually it will become a norm.

I’ve never really had a good psych therapist. The last one just seemed to be keeping track of the time and came off very accusatory, like she already had me pegged. I felt like nothing but a paycheck. I’d reconsider therapy if I could find someone, insightful, unbiased and engaging.

My moon sign is Capricorn and my Pluto sign is Scorpio. I am horrible with astrology so I don’t quite understand what you are asking.

In my case, I think I'm the problem rather than them, because they (not all of my "friends" but the ones I'm closer to) do want to listen and they are patient with me. I totally understand that you would want to keep things lighter with people who are not even interested in listening to you. So sad.

I agree, finding the right psychologist is key. They say you become a psychologist in order to solve your own issues. Imo, that would be the bad ones and the one you met seems to me to be one of those. Jeez.

When I say "in contact with" I mean, are they aspected? If your Moon is in cap and your Pluto is in scorp, there may (depending on the degree between those planets) be a sextile or an out of sign square there. Sextiles are ideally 60 degrees between the planets and squares are 90 degrees, both with margins (orbs) of some degrees, depending on your philosophy on orbs. Have you made your chart at astro.com?

@HappyCapper

You have true friends. They see how hard it is for you and understand, that is why they are so patient. Continue opening up at your pace and doing whatever feels comfortable to you.

I have made charts before but I never understand what I’m looking at.

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They are awsome! I'm trying, but every cell in my body screams no, so it's so slooow going.

I just think it's a pity that your friends aren't more understanding. But then, it's difficult to find true friends...and I'm sure they are fun to be with.🙂 Are you going to try for another psychologist?

If you look in the bottom left hand corner, you see a table and if you look at the Moon symbol and then the Pluto symbol, you can determine where they meet.

In that box you can see something looking like a blue snow flake. That's the symbol for the sextile, so that means that you do have a contact (aspect) between your Moon and Pluto. It's what I would call a minor aspect and for a sextile, the orb is on the wide side, but there are many theories about this. If you look at astro.com's page about aspects, they even call it a major aspect, so... Even though it's a somewhat wide sextile, I would still count it since it's not THAT wide and since it's Pluto and Pluto tends to affect most things it touches, as it seems to me.

This is a link to an aspect page from astro.com, so you can check your other aspects as well. I should say that in the different boxes (those that are not empty), the number in the upper right corner is the orb of the aspect...which you can ofc count from the circle (which is what I did to find out that Moon/Pluto Aspect orb), but it's easier to just look at the table:

http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm

Posted by ScorpioTruth

I have a cancer moon.. I’ve felt it’s easier to talk to strangers/therapist than it is to talk to my family.. especially if what I am feeling is shame or embarrassment.

Yup. I can easily understand that! Thank you!🙂

May I ask, do you have a contact (aspect) between your Moon and your Pluto?

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Neither. lol

But if I felt completely overwhelmed and had to choose, I'd go with the psychologist since I have a tendency to "quarantine" myself from the people I love when I'm feeling stressed anyway.

Scorp Sun

Scorp Moon

Moon conjunct Pluto

I'm not a scorpio Sun, I'm not a scorpio Moon and my Moon is not conj Pluto, but the rest of that I could sign. Thank you.🙂

You're welcome. 🙂

Wait, why didn't I ask you the same question I asked TwinnFlamee1989? Well, better late than never, so here it goes:

Would you be interested in being able to share more with your friends and how, in that case, would you go about it. I have started sneaking in small amounts of info to my friends, but it's difficult and slooow work, so I'd love to hear your thoughts on the subject.

I don't want to paint the picture that I share absolutely nothing with my family or friends-- I do. I just tend to keep the heavy stuff to myself. And not due to any of the reasons mentioned in this thread, but mainly because I think some feelings are contagious and I'd hate to pass them onto someone I love. (That would bother me more than anything else.) But once I'm past it, I'm more likely to share it.

And some of the stuff you've mentioned in this thread, you shouldn't have to go through alone. Whether you seek support from a professional or a loved one is entirely a personal choice-- go with whichever you're more comfortable with. And don't ever feel ashamed of your feelings because "someone" else has it worse-- it doesn't make you a complainer, it makes you human.

I genuinely wish you the best.

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Oh, I totally get your reason, that's a major reason for me too. Great that you are able to get past it and do it anyway, at least sometimes! And with a scorp Moon conj Pluto, that makes it an even bigger accomplishment.

Thank you so very much!🙂

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My daughter is a Scorpio, and been doing therapy for years ( severe anxiety and depression issues). She tends to hold it in thinking she can handle things. I am actually her go to,the one person In her life that notices somethings wrong and gets her help. But that is because I haven proven I’m there, good bad or ugly. I don’t think it’s a matter of talking to psychologist or me, she does with both. But psychologist is more for working through the issues. Her father she tells nothing to because he’s not an emotionally safe place. and when there is something major going on, it takes awhile to open up. Hugs and love help.. creating the safe place.

Oh she’s 17. And quite mature due to all the dealing with issues at a young age. I’m lucky she’s still here.

So sorry she has to go through that and so sorry you as her mother has to see her go through it! That must be horrible!

I don't want to pressure you into telling me, but if you'd like to: do you know where these issues stem from? And also, is she going in the right direction?

So happy she gets such great support from you - that must help tremendously! It seems to me her psychologist is of some help, but to what extent, if I may ask? Is he or she good?

Should add that although I've never had severe anxiety attacks, mine have been absent for months now due to a psychologist introducing me to ACT (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy,) in case you haven't tried it and would like to.

17 is a difficult age, and the addition of all this...oh, that's heavy. I sincerely wish the both of you all the best!

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I have a cancer moon.. I’ve felt it’s easier to talk to strangers/therapist than it is to talk to my family.. especially if what I am feeling is shame or embarrassment.

Yup. I can easily understand that! Thank you!🙂

May I ask, do you have a contact (aspect) between your Moon and your Pluto?

I’m not sure how to find that out

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If you're interested, I could guide you🙂

In case you are, my first question would be if you have made your own chart at astro.com?

Before I was a evolved Scorpio I was very closed off. It led to suspicious behavior and imagining things that weren’t real.

I always wanted to open up more but it was hard. I felt trapped. I thought I was crazy and maybe I was. The thought of being crazy just drove me even more crazy.

It’s like I could change my appearance but I couldn’t change what was within.

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I have a cancer moon.. I’ve felt it’s easier to talk to strangers/therapist than it is to talk to my family.. especially if what I am feeling is shame or embarrassment.

Yup. I can easily understand that! Thank you!🙂

May I ask, do you have a contact (aspect) between your Moon and your Pluto?

I’m not sure how to find that out

If you're interested, I could guide you🙂

In case you are, my first question would be if you have made your own chart at astro.com?

No I typically use cafeastrology.com

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Okay. That's more difficult...and not as good, IMO. If you want to try astro.com, you go into "Extended Chart Selection" which you can find in the menue under "Free Horoscopes". Insert your data and use (probably preselected) "Round". Create the chart. In the bottom left corner you will find a table. Look for the Moon symbol and the Pluto symbol and then at the "box" where they meet. What can you see? ...or maybe I was unclear. In that case, please tell me.🙂

Posted by Senor_LL

Before I was a evolved Scorpio I was very closed off. It led to suspicious behavior and imagining things that weren’t real.

I always wanted to open up more but it was hard. I felt trapped. I thought I was crazy and maybe I was. The thought of being crazy just drove me even more crazy.

It’s like I could change my appearance but I couldn’t change what was within.

Interesting. How did you come to terms with it, if I may ask?

Do you know your Moon sign and if it's in aspect with Pluto?

I used to talk to no one. Me opening up was few far and between.

Something happened to me in 2016.

I took an acting class and emotionally unloaded on the class. Felt great.

Now looking back, I don't know why I places my emotions and opening up on such a high pedestal.

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My daughter is a Scorpio, and been doing therapy for years ( severe anxiety and depression issues). She tends to hold it in thinking she can handle things. I am actually her go to,the one person In her life that notices somethings wrong and gets her help. But that is because I haven proven I’m there, good bad or ugly. I don’t think it’s a matter of talking to psychologist or me, she does with both. But psychologist is more for working through the issues. Her father she tells nothing to because he’s not an emotionally safe place. and when there is something major going on, it takes awhile to open up. Hugs and love help.. creating the safe place.

Oh she’s 17. And quite mature due to all the dealing with issues at a young age. I’m lucky she’s still here.

So sorry she has to go through that and so sorry you as her mother has to see her go through it! That must be horrible!

I don't want to pressure you into telling me, but if you'd like to: do you know where these issues stem from? And also, is she going in the right direction?

So happy she gets such great support from you - that must help tremendously! It seems to me her psychologist is of some help, but to what extent, if I may ask? Is he or she good?

Should add that although I've never had severe anxiety attacks, mine have been absent for months now due to a psychologist introducing me to ACT (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy,) in case you haven't tried it and would like to.

17 is a difficult age, and the addition of all this...oh, that's heavy. I sincerely wish the both of you all the best!

She had a couple of anxiety episodes when she was young but we didn’t really understand. When she was 12 she had a concussion & post-concussive syndrome which is when it became severe & depression. She had headaches, dizziness that made it unable to function normally and could only be in school half time. At the time, she was told by doctors she might be like this always.. that’s when the depression started. I took her to an occupational therapist for 7 months of intensive therapy & also a psychologist at this time. That first psychologist helped a little only. The OT was a miracle. She had to work hard to get better. Then we switched to a new psychologist who specializes in teen anxiety & depression when she was 14. This one has made a big diffference.

Anyway 12-15 were the scary years, cutting, suicidal thoughts and an attempt. Although thank god then she had no clue how to actually do it. The psychologist has helped her learn how to have a relationship with her dad accepting who he is. ( yes she’s more of an adult than him). Oh also we got divorced when she was 11. So she was dealing with him alone, he wouldn’t listen to me at all. The psychologist has helped her navigate through life, stresses, and she handles major events better than before, hasn’t self-harmed in 2 1/2 years, and when things get bad knows how to ask for help now. Still has big dips in her life when major things happen but not as bad. She’s working on being able to help herself and make that more even now. She is much better managed now than before. She does take meds and when we’ve tried to take her off that didn’t go well. She has learned that you have to pick yourself up and never give up in life. Boy lessons some adults don’t get. But was necessary. Some concussion symptoms when anxiety is out of control, so it’s very important to have anxiety managed for her to have a normal life.

She is doing well now actually. One more year of high school & she’s looking forward to college. She works and they want to make her a manager too.

As Mom, you know you love your kids and you do what it takes for them to be okay and have a good life. Her brother is ADHD and struggles worse than her. But she takes responsibility for herself more.

I’m really proud of her 🙂

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Aww, that is fantastic! You have good reason to be proud of her!🙂 Sorry about your son! How old is he, if I may ask?

Posted by DMV

I used to talk to no one. Me opening up was few far and between.

Something happened to me in 2016.

I took an acting class and emotionally unloaded on the class. Felt great.

Now looking back, I don't know why I places my emotions and opening up on such a high pedestal.

That's awsome! Well done!🙂 May I ask, did you take the acting class in order for the chance that this might happen, or was it unrelated?

Is your Moon aspected to Pluto?

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I have a cancer moon.. I’ve felt it’s easier to talk to strangers/therapist than it is to talk to my family.. especially if what I am feeling is shame or embarrassment.

Yup. I can easily understand that! Thank you!🙂

May I ask, do you have a contact (aspect) between your Moon and your Pluto?

I’m not sure how to find that out

If you're interested, I could guide you🙂

In case you are, my first question would be if you have made your own chart at astro.com?

No I typically use cafeastrology.com

Okay. That's more difficult...and not as good, IMO. If you want to try astro.com, you go into "Extended Chart Selection" which you can find in the menue under "Free Horoscopes". Insert your data and use (probably preselected) "Round". Create the chart. In the bottom left corner you will find a table. Look for the Moon symbol and the Pluto symbol and then at the "box" where they meet. What can you see? ...or maybe I was unclear. In that case, please tell me.🙂

I’m not sure what you meant by where the boxes meet, it doesn’t look like my moon and Pluto meet but idk how to read these things. I will try to share the image.

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Thank you!🙂

I agree, they don't seem to meet.🙂 Just to check: if you look in the table where your Moon and Saturn meet, what do you see?

Posted by NelsonSacramento

I keep my problems to me only

It is very hard to open myself, that might only happen if i get in a situation that is life threatening as im still working hard to get my own place.

Moon Pisces

Moon SesquiQuadrate Pluto

Thank you very much!🙂

Since the aspect is a minor aspect, I would love to know the orb, if you know it.

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I have a cancer moon.. I’ve felt it’s easier to talk to strangers/therapist than it is to talk to my family.. especially if what I am feeling is shame or embarrassment.

Yup. I can easily understand that! Thank you!🙂

May I ask, do you have a contact (aspect) between your Moon and your Pluto?

I’m not sure how to find that out

If you're interested, I could guide you🙂

In case you are, my first question would be if you have made your own chart at astro.com?

No I typically use cafeastrology.com

Okay. That's more difficult...and not as good, IMO. If you want to try astro.com, you go into "Extended Chart Selection" which you can find in the menue under "Free Horoscopes". Insert your data and use (probably preselected) "Round". Create the chart. In the bottom left corner you will find a table. Look for the Moon symbol and the Pluto symbol and then at the "box" where they meet. What can you see? ...or maybe I was unclear. In that case, please tell me.🙂

I’m not sure what you meant by where the boxes meet, it doesn’t look like my moon and Pluto meet but idk how to read these things. I will try to share the image.

Thank you!🙂

I agree, they don't seem to meet.🙂 Just to check: if you look in the table where your Moon and Saturn meet, what do you see?

A red square? I don’t know what any of that means tho. Lol what does that tell you about me?

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Good!🙂 The red square there means that you have a square between your Moon and Saturn. Here is a link to an aspect page at astro.com so that you can identify your other aspects as well:

http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm

If you learn what each aspect means and the individual planets and the different archetypes, you can develop a more intuitive sense for what each aspect means, but if you don't feel like doing that, you can always google the different aspects. I just chose a random aspect in your chart to make sure I was being clear about where you could look. There are loads of web sites that do this, but my favorite so far to describe what each aspect means (although there may be better ones out there and there are ofc different opinions on this) is astromatrix.

I should say that the number in each of the boxes that are not empty is the orb of the aspect (you can calculate that, looking only at the circle as well, but I find it easier to just look at the table). The smaller the number, the stronger/more likely it is to affect you...depending on the entire chart, ofc, but in general.

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I keep my problems to me only

It is very hard to open myself, that might only happen if i get in a situation that is life threatening as im still working hard to get my own place.

Moon Pisces

Moon SesquiQuadrate Pluto

Thank you very much!🙂

Since the aspect is a minor aspect, I would love to know the orb, if you know it.

Orb 1°21

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Thank you!🙂

Ooo! So you have a Pluto transit to your Mars atm...and in the same spot as the Pluto SN. My merc is there. How is that going for you, if I may ask? ...although, it seems to me Pluto transits are mostly felt after the fact.

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I have a cancer moon.. I’ve felt it’s easier to talk to strangers/therapist than it is to talk to my family.. especially if what I am feeling is shame or embarrassment.

Yup. I can easily understand that! Thank you!🙂

May I ask, do you have a contact (aspect) between your Moon and your Pluto?

I’m not sure how to find that out

If you're interested, I could guide you🙂

In case you are, my first question would be if you have made your own chart at astro.com?

No I typically use cafeastrology.com

Okay. That's more difficult...and not as good, IMO. If you want to try astro.com, you go into "Extended Chart Selection" which you can find in the menue under "Free Horoscopes". Insert your data and use (probably preselected) "Round". Create the chart. In the bottom left corner you will find a table. Look for the Moon symbol and the Pluto symbol and then at the "box" where they meet. What can you see? ...or maybe I was unclear. In that case, please tell me.🙂

I’m not sure what you meant by where the boxes meet, it doesn’t look like my moon and Pluto meet but idk how to read these things. I will try to share the image.

Thank you!🙂

I agree, they don't seem to meet.🙂 Just to check: if you look in the table where your Moon and Saturn meet, what do you see?

A red square? I don’t know what any of that means tho. Lol what does that tell you about me?

Good!🙂 The red square there means that you have a square between your Moon and Saturn. Here is a link to an aspect page at astro.com so that you can identify your other aspects as well:

http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm

If you learn what each aspect means and the individual planets and the different archetypes, you can develop a more intuitive sense for what each aspect means, but if you don't feel like doing that, you can always google the different aspects. I just chose a random aspect in your chart to make sure I was being clear about where you could look. There are loads of web sites that do this, but my favorite so far to describe what each aspect means (although there may be better ones out there and there are ofc different opinions on this) is astromatrix.

I should say that the number in each of the boxes that are not empty is the orb of the aspect (you can calculate that, looking only at the circle as well, but I find it easier to just look at the table). The smaller the number, the stronger/more likely it is to affect you...depending on the entire chart, ofc, but in general.

Ah, I see. Thank you for explaining that to me!

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Np. I was being unclear, just ask.🙂

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My daughter is a Scorpio, and been doing therapy for years ( severe anxiety and depression issues). She tends to hold it in thinking she can handle things. I am actually her go to,the one person In her life that notices somethings wrong and gets her help. But that is because I haven proven I’m there, good bad or ugly. I don’t think it’s a matter of talking to psychologist or me, she does with both. But psychologist is more for working through the issues. Her father she tells nothing to because he’s not an emotionally safe place. and when there is something major going on, it takes awhile to open up. Hugs and love help.. creating the safe place.

Oh she’s 17. And quite mature due to all the dealing with issues at a young age. I’m lucky she’s still here.

So sorry she has to go through that and so sorry you as her mother has to see her go through it! That must be horrible!

I don't want to pressure you into telling me, but if you'd like to: do you know where these issues stem from? And also, is she going in the right direction?

So happy she gets such great support from you - that must help tremendously! It seems to me her psychologist is of some help, but to what extent, if I may ask? Is he or she good?

Should add that although I've never had severe anxiety attacks, mine have been absent for months now due to a psychologist introducing me to ACT (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy,) in case you haven't tried it and would like to.

17 is a difficult age, and the addition of all this...oh, that's heavy. I sincerely wish the both of you all the best!

She had a couple of anxiety episodes when she was young but we didn’t really understand. When she was 12 she had a concussion & post-concussive syndrome which is when it became severe & depression. She had headaches, dizziness that made it unable to function normally and could only be in school half time. At the time, she was told by doctors she might be like this always.. that’s when the depression started. I took her to an occupational therapist for 7 months of intensive therapy & also a psychologist at this time. That first psychologist helped a little only. The OT was a miracle. She had to work hard to get better. Then we switched to a new psychologist who specializes in teen anxiety & depression when she was 14. This one has made a big diffference.

Anyway 12-15 were the scary years, cutting, suicidal thoughts and an attempt. Although thank god then she had no clue how to actually do it. The psychologist has helped her learn how to have a relationship with her dad accepting who he is. ( yes she’s more of an adult than him). Oh also we got divorced when she was 11. So she was dealing with him alone, he wouldn’t listen to me at all. The psychologist has helped her navigate through life, stresses, and she handles major events better than before, hasn’t self-harmed in 2 1/2 years, and when things get bad knows how to ask for help now. Still has big dips in her life when major things happen but not as bad. She’s working on being able to help herself and make that more even now. She is much better managed now than before. She does take meds and when we’ve tried to take her off that didn’t go well. She has learned that you have to pick yourself up and never give up in life. Boy lessons some adults don’t get. But was necessary. Some concussion symptoms when anxiety is out of control, so it’s very important to have anxiety managed for her to have a normal life.

She is doing well now actually. One more year of high school & she’s looking forward to college. She works and they want to make her a manager too.

As Mom, you know you love your kids and you do what it takes for them to be okay and have a good life. Her brother is ADHD and struggles worse than her. But she takes responsibility for herself more.

I’m really proud of her 🙂

Aww, that is fantastic! You have good reason to be proud of her!🙂 Sorry about your son! How old is he, if I may ask?

He is 23.

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So sorry - must be tough!

A former class mate has severe ADHD and she told me some about how difficult it has been for her. She also told me that it usually becomes better with time when they have managed to accept it in a whole other way. I sooo hope that for your son. And for you - it can't be easy for you either.

All the best to all three of you!🙂

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My daughter is a Scorpio, and been doing therapy for years ( severe anxiety and depression issues). She tends to hold it in thinking she can handle things. I am actually her go to,the one person In her life that notices somethings wrong and gets her help. But that is because I haven proven I’m there, good bad or ugly. I don’t think it’s a matter of talking to psychologist or me, she does with both. But psychologist is more for working through the issues. Her father she tells nothing to because he’s not an emotionally safe place. and when there is something major going on, it takes awhile to open up. Hugs and love help.. creating the safe place.

Oh she’s 17. And quite mature due to all the dealing with issues at a young age. I’m lucky she’s still here.

So sorry she has to go through that and so sorry you as her mother has to see her go through it! That must be horrible!

I don't want to pressure you into telling me, but if you'd like to: do you know where these issues stem from? And also, is she going in the right direction?

So happy she gets such great support from you - that must help tremendously! It seems to me her psychologist is of some help, but to what extent, if I may ask? Is he or she good?

Should add that although I've never had severe anxiety attacks, mine have been absent for months now due to a psychologist introducing me to ACT (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy,) in case you haven't tried it and would like to.

17 is a difficult age, and the addition of all this...oh, that's heavy. I sincerely wish the both of you all the best!

She had a couple of anxiety episodes when she was young but we didn’t really understand. When she was 12 she had a concussion & post-concussive syndrome which is when it became severe & depression. She had headaches, dizziness that made it unable to function normally and could only be in school half time. At the time, she was told by doctors she might be like this always.. that’s when the depression started. I took her to an occupational therapist for 7 months of intensive therapy & also a psychologist at this time. That first psychologist helped a little only. The OT was a miracle. She had to work hard to get better. Then we switched to a new psychologist who specializes in teen anxiety & depression when she was 14. This one has made a big diffference.

Anyway 12-15 were the scary years, cutting, suicidal thoughts and an attempt. Although thank god then she had no clue how to actually do it. The psychologist has helped her learn how to have a relationship with her dad accepting who he is. ( yes she’s more of an adult than him). Oh also we got divorced when she was 11. So she was dealing with him alone, he wouldn’t listen to me at all. The psychologist has helped her navigate through life, stresses, and she handles major events better than before, hasn’t self-harmed in 2 1/2 years, and when things get bad knows how to ask for help now. Still has big dips in her life when major things happen but not as bad. She’s working on being able to help herself and make that more even now. She is much better managed now than before. She does take meds and when we’ve tried to take her off that didn’t go well. She has learned that you have to pick yourself up and never give up in life. Boy lessons some adults don’t get. But was necessary. Some concussion symptoms when anxiety is out of control, so it’s very important to have anxiety managed for her to have a normal life.

She is doing well now actually. One more year of high school & she’s looking forward to college. She works and they want to make her a manager too.

As Mom, you know you love your kids and you do what it takes for them to be okay and have a good life. Her brother is ADHD and struggles worse than her. But she takes responsibility for herself more.

I’m really proud of her 🙂

Aww, that is fantastic! You have good reason to be proud of her!🙂 Sorry about your son! How old is he, if I may ask?

He is 23.

So sorry - must be tough!

A former class mate has severe ADHD and she told me some about how difficult it has been for her. She also told me that it usually becomes better with time when they have managed to accept it in a whole other way. I sooo hope that for your son. And for you - it can't be easy for you either.

All the best to all three of you!🙂

Thanks 🙂 yes his road has been really tough even though he’s so smart. Maturity wise he’s behind his sister who is 5 years younger. Forward progress is what we look at & he is at a point to figure out what his life will be. Whatever that means. You really wish you could do it for them but of course that have to find their way..

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He'll get there.🙂 And after what I hear, people with ADHD are likely to be viewed as less mature than they really are, due to their condition. Figuring out what his life will be sounds tough for a 23 year old who has been struggling like that and I understand that you would like to shield him from what he has to do, but it seems wise to me that you let him find his own way. Super good luck to you all!🙂

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We dont have that piece in our brain that makes us concerned about people judging us like caps do.....unless maybe we have some personal cap placements.

With that said....I'd prefer a friend because I would be afraid that I would take up a challenge of manipulating the psychologist so I could discredit them and not take them seriously. I probably wouldn't start off that way but if the psychologist showed any signs of being incompetent...I would have the need to toy with them.

Scorp Sun

Aries Moon

No moon pluto aspects.

LOL that part.... I know that I can word things in a specific way to where the therapist would give me a certain word of advice. I hate that. Friends know every part of me, how/when I lie, etc.

With that said, I have great friends I can open up to about anything. but I choose not to bc I know it can be too much at times. So I would prefer a therapist and just be as transparent and honest as possible.

Scorp sun/libra moon

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My daughter is a Scorpio, and been doing therapy for years ( severe anxiety and depression issues). She tends to hold it in thinking she can handle things. I am actually her go to,the one person In her life that notices somethings wrong and gets her help. But that is because I haven proven I’m there, good bad or ugly. I don’t think it’s a matter of talking to psychologist or me, she does with both. But psychologist is more for working through the issues. Her father she tells nothing to because he’s not an emotionally safe place. and when there is something major going on, it takes awhile to open up. Hugs and love help.. creating the safe place.

Oh she’s 17. And quite mature due to all the dealing with issues at a young age. I’m lucky she’s still here.

So sorry she has to go through that and so sorry you as her mother has to see her go through it! That must be horrible!

I don't want to pressure you into telling me, but if you'd like to: do you know where these issues stem from? And also, is she going in the right direction?

So happy she gets such great support from you - that must help tremendously! It seems to me her psychologist is of some help, but to what extent, if I may ask? Is he or she good?

Should add that although I've never had severe anxiety attacks, mine have been absent for months now due to a psychologist introducing me to ACT (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy,) in case you haven't tried it and would like to.

17 is a difficult age, and the addition of all this...oh, that's heavy. I sincerely wish the both of you all the best!

She had a couple of anxiety episodes when she was young but we didn’t really understand. When she was 12 she had a concussion & post-concussive syndrome which is when it became severe & depression. She had headaches, dizziness that made it unable to function normally and could only be in school half time. At the time, she was told by doctors she might be like this always.. that’s when the depression started. I took her to an occupational therapist for 7 months of intensive therapy & also a psychologist at this time. That first psychologist helped a little only. The OT was a miracle. She had to work hard to get better. Then we switched to a new psychologist who specializes in teen anxiety & depression when she was 14. This one has made a big diffference.

Anyway 12-15 were the scary years, cutting, suicidal thoughts and an attempt. Although thank god then she had no clue how to actually do it. The psychologist has helped her learn how to have a relationship with her dad accepting who he is. ( yes she’s more of an adult than him). Oh also we got divorced when she was 11. So she was dealing with him alone, he wouldn’t listen to me at all. The psychologist has helped her navigate through life, stresses, and she handles major events better than before, hasn’t self-harmed in 2 1/2 years, and when things get bad knows how to ask for help now. Still has big dips in her life when major things happen but not as bad. She’s working on being able to help herself and make that more even now. She is much better managed now than before. She does take meds and when we’ve tried to take her off that didn’t go well. She has learned that you have to pick yourself up and never give up in life. Boy lessons some adults don’t get. But was necessary. Some concussion symptoms when anxiety is out of control, so it’s very important to have anxiety managed for her to have a normal life.

She is doing well now actually. One more year of high school & she’s looking forward to college. She works and they want to make her a manager too.

As Mom, you know you love your kids and you do what it takes for them to be okay and have a good life. Her brother is ADHD and struggles worse than her. But she takes responsibility for herself more.

I’m really proud of her 🙂

Aww, that is fantastic! You have good reason to be proud of her!🙂 Sorry about your son! How old is he, if I may ask?

He is 23.

So sorry - must be tough!

A former class mate has severe ADHD and she told me some about how difficult it has been for her. She also told me that it usually becomes better with time when they have managed to accept it in a whole other way. I sooo hope that for your son. And for you - it can't be easy for you either.

All the best to all three of you!🙂

Thanks 🙂 yes his road has been really tough even though he’s so smart. Maturity wise he’s behind his sister who is 5 years younger. Forward progress is what we look at & he is at a point to figure out what his life will be. Whatever that means. You really wish you could do it for them but of course that have to find their way..

He'll get there.🙂 And after what I hear, people with ADHD are likely to be viewed as less mature than they really are, due to their condition. Figuring out what his life will be sounds tough for a 23 year old who has been struggling like that and I understand that you would like to shield him from what he has to do, but it seems wise to me that you let him find his own way. Super good luck to you all!🙂

Thanks 🙂 yes steps for him, important thing is for me to not enable him, but also be supportive. It’s slow for him, but forward motion is happening so that’s good. It isn’t what I’d hoped for him, but there is always time and he is making progress.

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You are doing exactly what I would have hoped to have done in your situation...so it must be rubbish.😉

All jokes aside, I think you are doing a great job and so are your son and daughter.🙂